Re: Squat space is now being advertised by AS 749 (DoD Network Information Center)

[Brandon Martin]

On 9/11/21 8:36 AM, David Bass wrote:
When can we reclaim all this unused space from the US DoD?  Serious 
question.


I’ve never understood how they can just sit on this without having to do 
something with it.




Remember, just because a prefix isn't in your routing table doesn't mean 
the address space isn't in use.


The DoD uses a fair bit of the address space allocated to them on 
networks that are not visible from the public Internet.  Whether they 
use it efficiently is, perhaps, another matter.


--
Brandon Martin

Re: Squat space is now being advertised by AS 749 (DoD Network Information Center)

[John Curran]

On 11 Sep 2021, at 7:36 AM, David Bass  wrote:
> 
> When can we reclaim all this unused space from the US DoD?  Serious question. 
> 
> I’ve never understood how they can just sit on this without having to do 
> something with it.  

In 2007, the US DoD was asked the question of possible return of underutilized 
IPv4 space and returned several /8’s as a result –  
https://www.icann.org/en/blogs/details/recovering-ipv4-address-space-6-2-2008-en

FYI,
/John

John Curran
President and CEO
American Registry for Internet Numbers

Re: Squat space is now being advertised by AS 749 (DoD Network Information Center)

[David Bass]

When can we reclaim all this unused space from the US DoD?  Serious
question.

I’ve never understood how they can just sit on this without having to do
something with it.

On Fri, Sep 10, 2021 at 8:34 PM Paul Ferguson 
wrote:

> Both articles are base don Doug Madory's research:
>
> https://www.kentik.com/blog/wait-did-as8003-just-disappear/
>
> Cheers,
>
> - ferg
>
>
> On 9/10/21 5:26 PM, Daniel Lacey wrote:
>
> > Just saw an article in the Washington Post explaining what went on…
> >
> > It was a follow up to the Apr 24 and 26 articles…
> >
> > I don’t have a link without a subscription….
> >
> > Basically, unused IPv4 addresses from DOD were being transferred to
> > Global Resource  Systems. It was transferred back today.This is some
> > pilot program for network resilience by the Pentagon unit Defense
> > Digital Service.
> >
> > I don’t know if this is a smoke screen or exactly what “they” say it is…
> > Just trying to fill in the blanks…
> >
> >> On Sep 10, 2021, at 15:40, Compton, Rich A 
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> 
> >>
> >> Hi, this week it looks like the DoD owned squat space that was
> >> previously advertised by AS 8008 (a shadow company called Global
> >> Resource Systems,
> >> seehttps://
> apnews.com/article/technology-business-government-and-politics-b26ab809d1e9fdb53314f56299399949
> >> <
> https://apnews.com/article/technology-business-government-and-politics-b26ab809d1e9fdb53314f56299399949>)
>
> >> is now being advertised by AS 749 (DoD Network Information Center).
> >> Does anyone have any idea why this change was made?  Is the DoD
> >> planning on actually legitimately putting services on the space soon
> >> instead of using it as a giant honeypot?  Or maybe even selling it?
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >>
> >> Rich
> >>
>
>
> --
> Paul Ferguson
> Tacoma, WA  USA
> Illegitimi non carborundum.
>

Re: Squat space is now being advertised by AS 749 (DoD Network Information Center)

[Paul Ferguson]

Both articles are base don Doug Madory's research:

https://www.kentik.com/blog/wait-did-as8003-just-disappear/

Cheers,

- ferg


On 9/10/21 5:26 PM, Daniel Lacey wrote:


Just saw an article in the Washington Post explaining what went on…

It was a follow up to the Apr 24 and 26 articles…

I don’t have a link without a subscription….

Basically, unused IPv4 addresses from DOD were being transferred to 
Global Resource  Systems. It was transferred back today.This is some 
pilot program for network resilience by the Pentagon unit Defense 
Digital Service.


I don’t know if this is a smoke screen or exactly what “they” say it is…
Just trying to fill in the blanks…

On Sep 10, 2021, at 15:40, Compton, Rich A  
wrote:




Hi, this week it looks like the DoD owned squat space that was 
previously advertised by AS 8008 (a shadow company called Global 
Resource Systems, 
seehttps://apnews.com/article/technology-business-government-and-politics-b26ab809d1e9fdb53314f56299399949 
) 
is now being advertised by AS 749 (DoD Network Information Center).  
Does anyone have any idea why this change was made?  Is the DoD 
planning on actually legitimately putting services on the space soon 
instead of using it as a giant honeypot?  Or maybe even selling it?


Thanks,

Rich




--
Paul Ferguson
Tacoma, WA  USA
Illegitimi non carborundum.

Re: Squat space is now being advertised by AS 749 (DoD Network Information Center)

[Daniel Lacey]

Just saw an article in the Washington Post explaining what went on…

It was a follow up to the Apr 24 and 26 articles…

I don’t have a link without a subscription….

Basically, unused IPv4 addresses from DOD were being transferred to Global 
Resource  Systems. It was transferred back today.This is some pilot program for 
network resilience by the Pentagon unit Defense Digital Service.

I don’t know if this is a smoke screen or exactly what “they” say it is…
Just trying to fill in the blanks…

> On Sep 10, 2021, at 15:40, Compton, Rich A  wrote:
> 
> 
> Hi, this week it looks like the DoD owned squat space that was previously 
> advertised by AS 8008 (a shadow company called Global Resource Systems, see 
> https://apnews.com/article/technology-business-government-and-politics-b26ab809d1e9fdb53314f56299399949)
>  is now being advertised by AS 749 (DoD Network Information Center).  Does 
> anyone have any idea why this change was made?  Is the DoD planning on 
> actually legitimately putting services on the space soon instead of using it 
> as a giant honeypot?  Or maybe even selling it?
>  
> Thanks, 
> Rich
>  
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Squat space is now being advertised by AS 749 (DoD Network Information Center)

[Compton, Rich A]

Hi, this week it looks like the DoD owned squat space that was previously 
advertised by AS 8008 (a shadow company called Global Resource Systems, see 
https://apnews.com/article/technology-business-government-and-politics-b26ab809d1e9fdb53314f56299399949)
 is now being advertised by AS 749 (DoD Network Information Center).  Does 
anyone have any idea why this change was made?  Is the DoD planning on actually 
legitimately putting services on the space soon instead of using it as a giant 
honeypot?  Or maybe even selling it?

Thanks,
Rich

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