subject:"Switch for SFP\+"

Re: Switch for SFP+

2020-05-18 Thread Josh Baird

LACP+tagged VLANs is not a problem for me on RouterOS.   I'm not wasting my
time on SwOS.

In general, Mikrotik's L2 switching implementation is very frustrating, but
I think it's gotten a bit better on the CRS3XX series of switches.

On Mon, May 18, 2020 at 5:53 PM Randy Carpenter 
wrote:

>
> I could never get LACP + tagged VLANs to work on SwOS.
>
> Then again, it doesn't work reliably on RouterOS either, so I gave up.
> Spending more on hardware that is well supported is worth it versus my time
> and sanity.
>
> I think Ubiquiti pretty much has the "cheap hardware that works well, but
> commercial support lacking" market cornered.
>
> thanks,
> -Randy
>
> - On May 18, 2020, at 5:43 PM, nanog  wrote:
>
> Yep, run SwichOS, prevents you from running things in software. 😊
>
>
>
>
>
> *[image: LTI-Full_175px]*
>
>
> *Dennis Burgess, Mikrotik Certified Trainer MTCNA, MTCRE, MTCWE, MTCTCE,
> MTCINE, MTCSE, HE IPv6 Sage, Cambium ePMP Certified *
>
> Author of "Learn RouterOS- Second Edition”
>
> *Link Technologies, Inc* -- Mikrotik & WISP Support Services
>
> *Office*: 314-735-0270  Website: http://www.linktechs.net
>
> Create Wireless Coverage’s with www.towercoverage.com
>
>
>
> *From:* NANOG  *On Behalf Of *Mike Hammett
> *Sent:* Monday, May 18, 2020 4:37 PM
> *To:* Mauro Gasparini 
> *Cc:* nanog@nanog.org
> *Subject:* Re: Switch for SFP+
>
>
>
> That's a downfall of Mikrotik, they give you ultimate power. You can do
> some pretty atypical things on there.
>
>
>
> -
> Mike Hammett
> Intelligent Computing Solutions
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>
> *From: *"Mauro Gasparini" 
> *To: *nanog@nanog.org
> *Sent: *Monday, May 18, 2020 1:45:59 PM
> *Subject: *Re: Switch for SFP+
>
> It's clear then that I must use "bridge vlan" to achieve the goal I am
> looking for.
> Now it's time for me to study, research and test on my side.
> If I have any specific questions, I will draw on your experience.
> Thanks a lot.
>
> El 15/5/20 a las 22:11, Travis Garrison escribió:
>
> On the CRS 3xx line, use vlan filtering instead. This guarantees hardware
> offloading.
>
>
>
> PS. Do not use this method on the 1xx or 2xx lines.
>
>
>
> /interface bonding
> add mode=802.3ad name=bond-inet slaves=ether9,ether10,ether8
> transmit-hash-policy=layer-2-and-3
>
>
>
> /interface bridge
>
> add name=bridge vlan-filtering=yes
>
>
>
> /interface bridge port
>
> add bridge=bridge interface=bond-inet
>
> add bridge=bridge interface=sfp1
>
>
>
> /interface bridge vlan
>
> add bridge=bridge tagged=bond-inet,sfp1 vlan-ids=201
>
>
>
> Thanks
>
> Travis
>
>
>
> *From:* NANOG   *On
> Behalf Of *Mauro Gasparini
> *Sent:* Friday, May 15, 2020 10:55 AM
> *To:* nanog@nanog.org
> *Subject:* Re: Switch for SFP+
>
>
>
> This works well on my CRSs:
>
> /interface bonding
> add mode=802.3ad name=bond-inet slaves=ether9,ether10,ether8
> transmit-hash-policy=layer-2-and-3
>
> /interface bridge port
> add bridge=br-cabase interface=bond-inet
> add bridge=br-cabase interface=sfp1
>
> But if I want to bridge vlans behind some bonding Instead of bridging phy
> interfaces, cpu explodes:
>
> /interface vlan
> add name=vl201-mmen vlan-id=201 interface=sfp1
> add name=vl201-mment vlan-id=201 interface=bond-inet
>
> /interface bridge port
> add bridge=br-mment interface=vl201-mmen
> add bridge=br-mment interface=vl201-mment
>
> El 15/5/20 a las 12:06, Mike Hammett escribió:
>
> https://wiki.mikrotik.com/wiki/Manual:CRS3xx_series_switches#Bonding
>
>
>
> -
> Mike Hammett
> Intelligent Computing Solutions
> <https://imsva91-ctp.trendmicro.com:443/wi

Re: Switch for SFP+

2020-05-18 Thread Randy Carpenter

I could never get LACP + tagged VLANs to work on SwOS. 

Then again, it doesn't work reliably on RouterOS either, so I gave up. Spending 
more on hardware that is well supported is worth it versus my time and sanity. 

I think Ubiquiti pretty much has the "cheap hardware that works well, but 
commercial support lacking" market cornered. 

thanks, 
-Randy 

- On May 18, 2020, at 5:43 PM, nanog  wrote: 

> Yep, run SwichOS, prevents you from running things in software. 😊

> Dennis Burgess, Mikrotik Certified Trainer
> MTCNA, MTCRE, MTCWE, MTCTCE, MTCINE, MTCSE, HE IPv6 Sage, Cambium ePMP 
> Certified

> Author of "Learn RouterOS- Second Edition”

> Link Technologies, Inc -- Mikrotik & WISP Support Services

> Office : 314-735-0270 Website: [ http://www.linktechs.net/ |
> http://www.linktechs.net ]

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> From: NANOG  On Behalf Of Mike Hammett
> Sent: Monday, May 18, 2020 4:37 PM
> To: Mauro Gasparini 
> Cc: nanog@nanog.org
> Subject: Re: Switch for SFP+

> That's a downfall of Mikrotik, they give you ultimate power. You can do some
> pretty atypical things on there.

> -
> Mike Hammett
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> From: "Mauro Gasparini" < [ mailto:mjgaspar...@gmail.com | 
> mjgaspar...@gmail.com
> ] >
> To: [ mailto:nanog@nanog.org | nanog@nanog.org ]
> Sent: Monday, May 18, 2020 1:45:59 PM
> Subject: Re: Switch for SFP+

> It's clear then that I must use "bridge vlan" to achieve the goal I am looking
> for.
> Now it's time for me to study, research and test on my side.
> If I have any specific questions, I will draw on your experience.
> Thanks a lot.

> El 15/5/20 a las 22:11, Travis Garrison escribió:

>> On the CRS 3xx line, use vlan filtering instead. This guarantees hardware
>> offloading.

>> PS. Do not use this method on the 1xx or 2xx lines.

>> /interface bonding
>> add mode=802.3ad name=bond-inet slaves=ether9,ether10,ether8
>> transmit-hash-policy=layer-2-and-3

>> /interface bridge

>> add name=bridge vlan-filtering=yes

>> /interface bridge port

>> add bridge=bridge interface=bond-inet

>> add bridge=bridge interface=sfp1

>> /interface bridge vlan

>> add bridge=bridge tagged=bond-inet,sfp1 vlan-ids=201

>> Thanks

>> Travis

>> From: NANOG [ mailto:nanog-boun...@nanog.org |  ] On
>> Behalf Of Mauro Gasparini
>> Sent: Friday, May 15, 2020 10:55 AM
>> To: [ mailto:nanog@nanog.org | nanog@nanog.org ]
>> Subject: Re: Switch for SFP+

>> This works well on my CRSs:

>> /interface bonding
>> add mode=802.3ad name=bond-inet slaves=ether9,ether10,ether8
>> transmit-hash-policy=layer-2-and-3

>> /interface bridge port
>> add bridge=br-cabase interface=bond-inet
>> add bridge=br-cabase interface=sfp1

>> But if I want to bridge vlans behind some bonding Instead of bridging phy
>> interfaces, cpu explodes:

>> /interface vlan
>> add name=vl201-mmen vlan-id=201 interface=sfp1
>> add name=vl201-mment vlan-id=201 interface=bond-inet

>> /interface bridge port
>> add bridge=br-mment interface=vl201-mmen
>> add bridge=br-mment interface=vl201-mment

>> El 15/5/20 a las 12:06, Mike Hammett escribió:

>>> [ https://wiki.mikrotik.com/wiki/Manual:CRS3xx_series_switches#Bonding |
>>> https://wiki.mikrotik.com/wiki/Manual:CRS3xx_series_switches#Bonding ]

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RE: Switch for SFP+

2020-05-18 Thread Dennis Burgess via NANOG

Yep, run SwichOS, prevents you from running things in software. 😊


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MTCNA, MTCRE, MTCWE, MTCTCE, MTCINE, MTCSE, HE IPv6 Sage, Cambium ePMP Certified
Author of "Learn RouterOS- Second Edition”
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From: NANOG  On Behalf Of Mike Hammett
Sent: Monday, May 18, 2020 4:37 PM
To: Mauro Gasparini 
Cc: nanog@nanog.org
Subject: Re: Switch for SFP+

That's a downfall of Mikrotik, they give you ultimate power. You can do some 
pretty atypical things on there.


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From: "Mauro Gasparini" mailto:mjgaspar...@gmail.com>>
To: nanog@nanog.org<mailto:nanog@nanog.org>
Sent: Monday, May 18, 2020 1:45:59 PM
Subject: Re: Switch for SFP+

It's clear then that I must use "bridge vlan" to achieve the goal I am looking 
for.
Now it's time for me to study, research and test on my side.
If I have any specific questions, I will draw on your experience.
Thanks a lot.
El 15/5/20 a las 22:11, Travis Garrison escribió:
On the CRS 3xx line, use vlan filtering instead. This guarantees hardware 
offloading.

PS. Do not use this method on the 1xx or 2xx lines.

/interface bonding
add mode=802.3ad name=bond-inet slaves=ether9,ether10,ether8 
transmit-hash-policy=layer-2-and-3

/interface bridge
add name=bridge vlan-filtering=yes

/interface bridge port
add bridge=bridge interface=bond-inet
add bridge=bridge interface=sfp1

/interface bridge vlan
add bridge=bridge tagged=bond-inet,sfp1 vlan-ids=201

Thanks
Travis

From: NANOG <ma

Re: Switch for SFP+

2020-05-18 Thread Mike Hammett

That's a downfall of Mikrotik, they give you ultimate power. You can do some 
pretty atypical things on there. 




- 
Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 

Midwest Internet Exchange 

The Brothers WISP 

- Original Message -

From: "Mauro Gasparini"  
To: nanog@nanog.org 
Sent: Monday, May 18, 2020 1:45:59 PM 
Subject: Re: Switch for SFP+ 

It's clear then that I must use "bridge vlan" to achieve the goal I am looking 
for. 
Now it's time for me to study, research and test on my side. 
If I have any specific questions, I will draw on your experience. 
Thanks a lot. 


El 15/5/20 a las 22:11, Travis Garrison escribió: 




On the CRS 3xx line, use vlan filtering instead. This guarantees hardware 
offloading. 

PS. Do not use this method on the 1xx or 2xx lines. 

/interface bonding 
add mode=802.3ad name=bond-inet slaves=ether9,ether10,ether8 
transmit-hash-policy=layer-2-and-3 

/interface bridge 
add name=bridge vlan-filtering=yes 

/interface bridge port 
add bridge=bridge interface=bond-inet 
add bridge=bridge interface=sfp1 

/interface bridge vlan 
add bridge=bridge tagged=bond-inet,sfp1 vlan-ids=201 


Thanks 
Travis 



From: NANOG  On Behalf Of Mauro Gasparini 
Sent: Friday, May 15, 2020 10:55 AM 
To: nanog@nanog.org 
Subject: Re: Switch for SFP+ 

This works well on my CRSs: 

/interface bonding 
add mode=802.3ad name=bond-inet slaves=ether9,ether10,ether8 
transmit-hash-policy=layer-2-and-3 

/interface bridge port 
add bridge=br-cabase interface=bond-inet 
add bridge=br-cabase interface=sfp1 

But if I want to bridge vlans behind some bonding Instead of bridging phy 
interfaces, cpu explodes: 

/interface vlan 
add name=vl201-mmen vlan-id=201 interface=sfp1 
add name=vl201-mment vlan-id=201 interface=bond-inet 

/interface bridge port 
add bridge=br-mment interface=vl201-mmen 
add bridge=br-mment interface=vl201-mment 



El 15/5/20 a las 12:06, Mike Hammett escribió: 



https://wiki.mikrotik.com/wiki/Manual:CRS3xx_series_switches#Bonding 



- 
Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 

Midwest Internet Exchange 

The Brothers WISP 

- Original Message -


From: "Mauro Gasparini"  
To: nanog@nanog.org 
Sent: Friday, May 15, 2020 8:55:22 AM 
Subject: Re: Switch for SFP+ 

Thanks. I am currently using CRS326-24G-2S+ (with routerOS) for this, but when 
I want to do vlan trunking through the bonding, cpu load grows from 3% to more 
than 90%. 
I'm consulting Mikrotik's support in the meantime, because routerOS probably 
doesn't take advantage of the switch hardware as swOS would. 



El 15/5/20 a las 10:03, Alain Hebert escribió: 


Hi, 

Mikrotik is a decent product and I'm always amazed at their features set, 
but... 

Using the UI to configuring the switch will punt too much traffic toward the 
CPU. However, it is possible to configure the switch fabric with the cli and 
attain the desired results. 

It does not compare to a JNP QFX5100 or a Extreme Network x650, x670... etc. 
- Alain Hebert aheb...@pubnix.net PubNIX Inc. 50 boul. St-Charles P.O. Box 
26770 Beaconsfield, Quebec H9W 6G7 Tel: 514-990-5911 
http://www.pubnix.net Fax: 514-990-9443 

On 2020-05-14 15:11, Adam Thompson wrote: 



Have you actually looked at Mikrotik switches? I don't like the OS, but the 
hardware does what you want it to. 
https://mikrotik.com/products/group/switches?filter&s=c&r={%22sfp_plus_interface%22:{%22s%22:%223%22,%22e%22:%2224%22}}#!
 
If necessary, buy your SFP modules from FS.com and get them coded as Mikrotik 
modules at the factory - that's what we do for Cisco, Brocade, Juniper, 
Extreme, etc. 
Even the top-of-the-line Mikrotik only costs US$899. 
-Adam 




Adam Thompson 
Consultant, Infrastructure Services 
[MERLIN LOGO]
100 - 135 Innovation Drive 
Winnipeg, MB, R3T 6A8 
(204) 977-6824 or 1-800-430-6404 (MB only) 
athomp...@merlin.mb.ca 
www.merlin.mb.ca 




From: NANOG  on behalf of Mauro Gasparini 
 
Sent: Thursday, May 14, 2020 8:46:21 AM 
To: Mehmet Akcin 
Cc: nanog 
Subject: Re: Switch for SFP+ 



Thank you. The problem is that to get a price lower than U$D 3000 I have to 
resort to a used device. 

El 14/5/20 a las 01:08, Mehmet Akcin escribió: 




Used Juniper QFX5100-48T will do it. Probably overkill but you can grab one 
cheap @ebay 




On Wed, May 13, 2020 at 16:36 Mauro Gasparini < mjgaspar...@gmail.com > wrote: 


Good afternoon. 

I'm looking for a switch with the following capabilities: 
. transport for more than 20 gbps 
. link aggregation LACP 
. slots for SFP+ 
. seamlessly when trunking vlans through the link aggregation. 

And essentially that doesn't exceed US$D 2000 and is compatible with 
10GBASE-ER and/or 10GBASE-ZR modules that are not from the vendor itself 
(e.g. SPFs: Huawei, Mikrotik, Sumitomo, OEMs). 

If any of you have a good experience with a device that meets these 
requirements (which are minimal with the exception of price and 
compatibility) ? 

Regards. 
Mauro Gasparini 


-- 

Mehmet 
+1-424-298-1903

Re: Switch for SFP+

2020-05-18 Thread Mauro Gasparini

It's clear then that I must use "bridge vlan" to achieve the goal I am 
looking for.

Now it's time for me to study, research and test on my side.
If I have any specific questions, I will draw on your experience.
Thanks a lot.

El 15/5/20 a las 22:11, Travis Garrison escribió:


On the CRS 3xx line, use vlan filtering instead. This guarantees 
hardware offloading.


PS. Do not use this method on the 1xx or 2xx lines.

/interface bonding
add mode=802.3ad name=bond-inet slaves=ether9,ether10,ether8 
transmit-hash-policy=layer-2-and-3


/interface bridge

add name=bridge vlan-filtering=yes

/interface bridge port

add bridge=bridge interface=bond-inet

add bridge=bridge interface=sfp1

/interface bridge vlan

add bridge=bridge tagged=bond-inet,sfp1 vlan-ids=201

Thanks

Travis

*From:* NANOG  *On Behalf Of *Mauro Gasparini
*Sent:* Friday, May 15, 2020 10:55 AM
*To:* nanog@nanog.org
*Subject:* Re: Switch for SFP+

This works well on my CRSs:

/interface bonding
add mode=802.3ad name=bond-inet slaves=ether9,ether10,ether8 
transmit-hash-policy=layer-2-and-3


/interface bridge port
add bridge=br-cabase interface=bond-inet
add bridge=br-cabase interface=sfp1

But if I want to bridge vlans behind some bonding Instead of bridging 
phy interfaces, cpu explodes:


/interface vlan
add name=vl201-mmen vlan-id=201 interface=sfp1
add name=vl201-mment vlan-id=201 interface=bond-inet

/interface bridge port
add bridge=br-mment interface=vl201-mmen
add bridge=br-mment interface=vl201-mment

El 15/5/20 a las 12:06, Mike Hammett escribió:

https://wiki.mikrotik.com/wiki/Manual:CRS3xx_series_switches#Bonding



-
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*From: *"Mauro Gasparini" 
<mailto:mjgaspar...@gmail.com>
*To: *nanog@nanog.org <mailto:nanog@nanog.org>
*Sent: *Friday, May 15, 2020 8:55:22 AM
*Subject: *Re: Switch for SFP+

Thanks. I am currently using CRS326-24G-2S+ (with routerOS) for
this, but when I want to do vlan trunking through the bonding, cpu
load grows from 3% to more than 90%.
I'm consulting Mikrotik's support in the meantime, because
routerOS probably doesn't take advantage of the switch hardware as
swOS would.

El 15/5/20 a las 10:03, Alain Hebert escribió:

Hi,

    Mikrotik is a decent product and I'm always amazed at
their features set, but...

    Using the UI to configuring the switch will punt too much
traffic toward the CPU.  However, it is possible to configure
the switch fabric with the cli and attain the desired results.

    It does not compare to a JNP QFX5100 or a Extreme Network
x650, x670...  etc.

-

Alain Hebert aheb...@pubnix.net <mailto:aheb...@pubnix.net>

PubNIX Inc.

50 boul. St-Charles

P.O. Box 26770 Beaconsfield, Quebec H9W 6G7

Tel: 514-990-5911 http://www.pubnix.net    Fax: 514-990-9443

On 2020-05-14 15:11, Adam Thompson wrote:

Have you actually looked at Mikrotik switches?  I don't
like the OS, but the hardware does what you want it to.


https://mikrotik.com/products/group/switches?filter&s=c&r={%22sfp_plus_interface%22:{%22s%22:%223%22,%22e%22:%2224%22}}#!

<https://mikrotik.com/products/group/switches?filter&s=c&r=%7b%22sfp_plus_interface%22:%7b%22s%22:%223%22,%22e%22:%2224%22%7d%7d#!>

If necessary, buy your SFP modules from FS.com and get
them coded as Mikrotik modules at the factory - that's
what we do for Cisco, Brocade, Juniper, Extreme, etc.

Even the top-of-the-line Mikrotik only costs US$899.

-Adam

*Adam Thompson*
Consultant, Infrastructure Services
[MERLIN LOGO]
100 - 135 Innovation Drive
Winnipeg, MB, R3T 6A8
(204) 977-6824 or 1-800-430-6404 (MB only)
athomp...@merlin.mb.ca <mailto:athomp...@merlin.mb.ca>
www.merlin.mb.ca <http://www.merlin.mb.ca/>

RE: Switch for SFP+

2020-05-18 Thread Travis Garrison

On the CRS 3xx line, use vlan filtering instead. This guarantees hardware 
offloading.

PS. Do not use this method on the 1xx or 2xx lines.

/interface bonding
add mode=802.3ad name=bond-inet slaves=ether9,ether10,ether8 
transmit-hash-policy=layer-2-and-3

/interface bridge
add name=bridge vlan-filtering=yes

/interface bridge port
add bridge=bridge interface=bond-inet
add bridge=bridge interface=sfp1

/interface bridge vlan
add bridge=bridge tagged=bond-inet,sfp1 vlan-ids=201

Thanks
Travis

From: NANOG  On Behalf Of Mauro Gasparini
Sent: Friday, May 15, 2020 10:55 AM
To: nanog@nanog.org
Subject: Re: Switch for SFP+

This works well on my CRSs:

/interface bonding
add mode=802.3ad name=bond-inet slaves=ether9,ether10,ether8 
transmit-hash-policy=layer-2-and-3

/interface bridge port
add bridge=br-cabase interface=bond-inet
add bridge=br-cabase interface=sfp1

But if I want to bridge vlans behind some bonding Instead of bridging phy 
interfaces, cpu explodes:

/interface vlan
add name=vl201-mmen vlan-id=201 interface=sfp1
add name=vl201-mment vlan-id=201 interface=bond-inet

/interface bridge port
add bridge=br-mment interface=vl201-mmen
add bridge=br-mment interface=vl201-mment

El 15/5/20 a las 12:06, Mike Hammett escribió:
https://wiki.mikrotik.com/wiki/Manual:CRS3xx_series_switches#Bonding


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From: "Mauro Gasparini" <mailto:mjgaspar...@gmail.com>
To: nanog@nanog.org<mailto:nanog@nanog.org>
Sent: Friday, May 15, 2020 8:55:22 AM
Subject: Re: Switch for SFP+

Thanks. I am currently using CRS326-24G-2S+ (with routerOS) for this, but when 
I want to do vlan trunking through the bonding, cpu load grows from 3% to more 
than 90%.
I'm consulting Mikrotik's support in the meantime, because routerOS probably 
doesn't take advantage of the switch hardware as swOS would.

El 15/5/20 a las 10:03, Alain Hebert escribió:
Hi,

Mikrotik is a decent product and I'm always amazed at their features set, 
but...

Using the UI to configuring the switch will punt too much traffic toward 
the CPU.  However, it is possible to configure the switch fabric with the cli 
and attain the desired results.

It does not compare to a JNP QFX5100 or a Extreme Network x650, x670...  
etc.

-

Alain Hebert
aheb...@pubnix.net<mailto:aheb...@pubnix.net>

PubNIX Inc.

50 boul. St-Charles

P.O. Box 26770 Beaconsfield, Quebec H9W 6G7

Tel: 514-990-5911  http://www.pubnix.netFax: 514-990-9443
On 2020-05-14 15:11, Adam Thompson wrote:

Have you actually looked at Mikrotik switches?  I don't like the OS, but the 
hardware does what you want it to.


https://mikrotik.com/products/group/switches?filter&s=c&r={%22sfp_plus_interface%22:{%22s%22:%223%22,%22e%22:%2224%22}}#!<https://mikrotik.com/products/group/switches?filter&s=c&r=%7b%22sfp_plus_interface%22:%7b%22s%22:%223%22,%22e%22:%2224%22%7d%7d#!>

If necessary, buy your SFP modules from FS.com and get them coded as Mikrotik 
modules at the factory - that's what we do for Cisco, Brocade, Juniper, 
Extreme, etc.

Even the top-of-the-line Mikrotik only costs US$899.

-Adam


Adam Thompson
Consultant, Infrastructure Services
[[MERLIN LOGO]]
100 - 135 Innovation Drive
Winnipeg, MB, R3T 6A8
(204) 977-6824 or 1-800-430-6404 (MB only)
athomp...@merlin.mb.ca<mailto:athomp...@merlin.mb.ca>
www.merlin.mb.ca<http://www.merlin.mb.ca/>


From: NANOG <mailto:nanog-boun...@nanog.org> on behalf 
of Mauro Gasparini <mailto:mjgaspar...@gmail.com>
Sent: Thursday, May 14, 2020 8:46:21 AM
To: Mehmet Akcin
Cc: nanog
Subject: Re: Switch for SFP+

Thank you. The problem is that to get a price lower than U$D 3000 I have to 
resort to a used device.
El 14/5/20 a las 01:08, Mehmet Akcin escribió:
Used Juniper QFX5100-48T will do it. Probably

Re: Switch for SFP+

2020-05-15 Thread Mauro Gasparini


This works well on my CRSs:

/interface bonding
add mode=802.3ad name=bond-inet slaves=ether9,ether10,ether8 
transmit-hash-policy=layer-2-and-3


/interface bridge port
add bridge=br-cabase interface=bond-inet
add bridge=br-cabase interface=sfp1

But if I want to bridge vlans behind some bonding Instead of bridging 
phy interfaces, cpu explodes:


/interface vlan
add name=vl201-mmen vlan-id=201 interface=sfp1
add name=vl201-mment vlan-id=201 interface=bond-inet

/interface bridge port
add bridge=br-mment interface=vl201-mmen
add bridge=br-mment interface=vl201-mment


El 15/5/20 a las 12:06, Mike Hammett escribió:

https://wiki.mikrotik.com/wiki/Manual:CRS3xx_series_switches#Bonding



-
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Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/>
<https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL><https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb><https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions><https://twitter.com/ICSIL>
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The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/>
<https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp><https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg>

*From: *"Mauro Gasparini" 
*To: *nanog@nanog.org
*Sent: *Friday, May 15, 2020 8:55:22 AM
*Subject: *Re: Switch for SFP+

Thanks. I am currently using CRS326-24G-2S+ (with routerOS) for this, 
but when I want to do vlan trunking through the bonding, cpu load 
grows from 3% to more than 90%.
I'm consulting Mikrotik's support in the meantime, because routerOS 
probably doesn't take advantage of the switch hardware as swOS would.



El 15/5/20 a las 10:03, Alain Hebert escribió:

    Hi,

    Mikrotik is a decent product and I'm always amazed at their
features set, but...

    Using the UI to configuring the switch will punt too much
traffic toward the CPU.  However, it is possible to configure the
switch fabric with the cli and attain the desired results.

    It does not compare to a JNP QFX5100 or a Extreme Network
x650, x670...  etc.

-
Alain hebertaheb...@pubnix.net
PubNIX Inc.

50 boul. St-Charles
P.O. Box 26770 Beaconsfield, Quebec H9W 6G7
Tel: 514-990-5911http://www.pubnix.net Fax: 514-990-9443

On 2020-05-14 15:11, Adam Thompson wrote:

Have you actually looked at Mikrotik switches?  I don't like
the OS, but the hardware does what you want it to.


https://mikrotik.com/products/group/switches?filter&s=c&r={%22sfp_plus_interface%22:{%22s%22:%223%22,%22e%22:%2224%22}}#!

If necessary, buy your SFP modules from FS.com and get them
coded as Mikrotik modules at the factory - that's what we do
for Cisco, Brocade, Juniper, Extreme, etc.

Even the top-of-the-line Mikrotik only costs US$899.

-Adam


*Adam Thompson*
Consultant, Infrastructure Services
[MERLIN LOGO]
100 - 135 Innovation Drive
Winnipeg, MB, R3T 6A8
(204) 977-6824 or 1-800-430-6404 (MB only)
athomp...@merlin.mb.ca <mailto:athomp...@merlin.mb.ca>
www.merlin.mb.ca <http://www.merlin.mb.ca/>



*From:* NANOG  on behalf of Mauro
    Gasparini 
    *Sent:* Thursday, May 14, 2020 8:46:21 AM
*To:* Mehmet Akcin
*Cc:* nanog
*Subject:* Re: Switch for SFP+
Thank you. The problem is that to get a price lower than U$D
3000 I have to resort to a used device.

El 14/5/20 a las 01:08, Mehmet Akcin escribió:

Used Juniper QFX5100-48T will do it. Probably overkill but
you can grab one cheap @ebay

On Wed, May 13, 2020 at 16:36 Mauro Gasparini
mailto:mjgaspar...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Good afternoon.

I'm looking for a switch with the following capabilities:
. transport for more than 20 gbps
. link aggregation LACP
. slots for SFP+
. seamlessly when trunking vlans through the link
aggregation.

And essentially that doesn't exceed US$D 2000 and is
compatible with
10GBASE-ER and/or 10GBASE-ZR modules that are not from
the vendor itself
(e.g. SPFs: Huawei, Mikrotik, Sumitomo, OEMs).

If any of you have a good experience with a device
that meets these
requirements (which are minimal with the exception of
price and
compatibility) ?

Regards.
Mauro Gasparini

-- 
Mehmet

+1-424-298-1903

Re: Switch for SFP+

2020-05-15 Thread Mauro Gasparini

Yes, cpu loads a little more only when you are logged. The rest of the
time is the same.

El 15/5/20 a las 12:05, Mike Hammett escribió:
It doesn't matter whether you use Winbox, web interface, or CLI, the
same configuration capabilities exist.

The determination is how you configure it, what version of RouterOS
you have, and what the hardware you have is capable of. The CRS3xx
series are the easiest to configure, with the older CRS and switch
chips in various other products of theirs getting progressively more
difficult and more limited in hardware-accelerated features.

*From: *"Alain Hebert"
*To: *nanog@nanog.org
*Sent: *Friday, May 15, 2020 8:03:13 AM
*Subject: *Re: Switch for SFP+

Hi,

Mikrotik is a decent product and I'm always amazed at their
features set, but...

Using the UI to configuring the switch will punt too much traffic
toward the CPU. However, it is possible to configure the switch
fabric with the cli and attain the desired results.

It does not compare to a JNP QFX5100 or a Extreme Network x650,
x670... etc.

-
Alain hebertaheb...@pubnix.net
PubNIX Inc.

50 boul. St-Charles
P.O. Box 26770 Beaconsfield, Quebec H9W 6G7
Tel: 514-990-5911http://www.pubnix.net Fax: 514-990-9443
On 2020-05-14 15:11, Adam Thompson wrote:

Have you actually looked at Mikrotik switches? I don't like the
OS, but the hardware does what you want it to.

https://mikrotik.com/products/group/switches?filter&s=c&r={%22sfp_plus_interface%22:{%22s%22:%223%22,%22e%22:%2224%22}}#!

If necessary, buy your SFP modules from FS.com and get them coded
as Mikrotik modules at the factory - that's what we do for Cisco,
Brocade, Juniper, Extreme, etc.

Even the top-of-the-line Mikrotik only costs US$899.

-Adam

*Adam Thompson*
Consultant, Infrastructure Services
[MERLIN LOGO]
100 - 135 Innovation Drive
Winnipeg, MB, R3T 6A8
(204) 977-6824 or 1-800-430-6404 (MB only)
athomp...@merlin.mb.ca <mailto:athomp...@merlin.mb.ca>
www.merlin.mb.ca <http://www.merlin.mb.ca/>

*From:* NANOG on behalf of Mauro
Gasparini
*Sent:* Thursday, May 14, 2020 8:46:21 AM
*To:* Mehmet Akcin
*Cc:* nanog
*Subject:* Re: Switch for SFP+
Thank you. The problem is that to get a price lower than U$D 3000
I have to resort to a used device.

El 14/5/20 a las 01:08, Mehmet Akcin escribió:

Used Juniper QFX5100-48T will do it. Probably overkill but you
can grab one cheap @ebay

On Wed, May 13, 2020 at 16:36 Mauro Gasparini
mailto:mjgaspar...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Good afternoon.

I'm looking for a switch with the following capabilities:
. transport for more than 20 gbps
. link aggregation LACP
. slots for SFP+
. seamlessly when trunking vlans through the link aggregation.

And essentially that doesn't exceed US$D 2000 and is
compatible with
10GBASE-ER and/or 10GBASE-ZR modules that are not from the
vendor itself
(e.g. SPFs: Huawei, Mikrotik, Sumitomo, OEMs).

If any of you have a good experience with a device that
meets these
requirements (which are minimal with the exception of
price and
compatibility) ?

Regards.
Mauro Gasparini

--
Mehmet

+1-424-298-1903

Re: Switch for SFP+

2020-05-15 Thread Mike Hammett

https://wiki.mikrotik.com/wiki/Manual:CRS3xx_series_switches#Bonding 




- 
Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 

Midwest Internet Exchange 

The Brothers WISP 

- Original Message -

From: "Mauro Gasparini"  
To: nanog@nanog.org 
Sent: Friday, May 15, 2020 8:55:22 AM 
Subject: Re: Switch for SFP+ 

Thanks. I am currently using CRS326-24G-2S+ (with routerOS) for this, but when 
I want to do vlan trunking through the bonding, cpu load grows from 3% to more 
than 90%. 
I'm consulting Mikrotik's support in the meantime, because routerOS probably 
doesn't take advantage of the switch hardware as swOS would. 



El 15/5/20 a las 10:03, Alain Hebert escribió: 


Hi, 

Mikrotik is a decent product and I'm always amazed at their features set, 
but... 

Using the UI to configuring the switch will punt too much traffic toward the 
CPU. However, it is possible to configure the switch fabric with the cli and 
attain the desired results. 

It does not compare to a JNP QFX5100 or a Extreme Network x650, x670... etc. 
-
Alain Hebert aheb...@pubnix.net PubNIX Inc.
50 boul. St-Charles
P.O. Box 26770 Beaconsfield, Quebec H9W 6G7
Tel: 514-990-5911 http://www.pubnix.net Fax: 514-990-9443 
On 2020-05-14 15:11, Adam Thompson wrote: 




Have you actually looked at Mikrotik switches? I don't like the OS, but the 
hardware does what you want it to. 
https://mikrotik.com/products/group/switches?filter&s=c&r={%22sfp_plus_interface%22:{%22s%22:%223%22,%22e%22:%2224%22}}#!
 
If necessary, buy your SFP modules from FS.com and get them coded as Mikrotik 
modules at the factory - that's what we do for Cisco, Brocade, Juniper, 
Extreme, etc. 
Even the top-of-the-line Mikrotik only costs US$899. 


-Adam 





Adam Thompson 
Consultant, Infrastructure Services 
[MERLIN LOGO]
100 - 135 Innovation Drive 
Winnipeg, MB, R3T 6A8 
(204) 977-6824 or 1-800-430-6404 (MB only) 
athomp...@merlin.mb.ca 
www.merlin.mb.ca 


From: NANOG  on behalf of Mauro Gasparini 
 
Sent: Thursday, May 14, 2020 8:46:21 AM 
To: Mehmet Akcin 
Cc: nanog 
Subject: Re: Switch for SFP+ 

Thank you. The problem is that to get a price lower than U$D 3000 I have to 
resort to a used device. 


El 14/5/20 a las 01:08, Mehmet Akcin escribió: 




Used Juniper QFX5100-48T will do it. Probably overkill but you can grab one 
cheap @ebay 



On Wed, May 13, 2020 at 16:36 Mauro Gasparini < mjgaspar...@gmail.com > wrote: 


Good afternoon. 

I'm looking for a switch with the following capabilities: 
. transport for more than 20 gbps 
. link aggregation LACP 
. slots for SFP+ 
. seamlessly when trunking vlans through the link aggregation. 

And essentially that doesn't exceed US$D 2000 and is compatible with 
10GBASE-ER and/or 10GBASE-ZR modules that are not from the vendor itself 
(e.g. SPFs: Huawei, Mikrotik, Sumitomo, OEMs). 

If any of you have a good experience with a device that meets these 
requirements (which are minimal with the exception of price and 
compatibility) ? 

Regards. 
Mauro Gasparini 


-- 

Mehmet 
+1-424-298-1903

Re: Switch for SFP+

2020-05-15 Thread Mike Hammett

It doesn't matter whether you use Winbox, web interface, or CLI, the same 
configuration capabilities exist. 


The determination is how you configure it, what version of RouterOS you have, 
and what the hardware you have is capable of. The CRS3xx series are the easiest 
to configure, with the older CRS and switch chips in various other products of 
theirs getting progressively more difficult and more limited in 
hardware-accelerated features. 




- 
Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 

Midwest Internet Exchange 

The Brothers WISP 

- Original Message -

From: "Alain Hebert"  
To: nanog@nanog.org 
Sent: Friday, May 15, 2020 8:03:13 AM 
Subject: Re: Switch for SFP+ 

Hi, 

Mikrotik is a decent product and I'm always amazed at their features set, 
but... 

Using the UI to configuring the switch will punt too much traffic toward the 
CPU. However, it is possible to configure the switch fabric with the cli and 
attain the desired results. 

It does not compare to a JNP QFX5100 or a Extreme Network x650, x670... etc. 
-
Alain Hebert aheb...@pubnix.net PubNIX Inc.
50 boul. St-Charles
P.O. Box 26770 Beaconsfield, Quebec H9W 6G7
Tel: 514-990-5911 http://www.pubnix.net Fax: 514-990-9443 
On 2020-05-14 15:11, Adam Thompson wrote: 




Have you actually looked at Mikrotik switches? I don't like the OS, but the 
hardware does what you want it to. 
https://mikrotik.com/products/group/switches?filter&s=c&r={%22sfp_plus_interface%22:{%22s%22:%223%22,%22e%22:%2224%22}}#!
 
If necessary, buy your SFP modules from FS.com and get them coded as Mikrotik 
modules at the factory - that's what we do for Cisco, Brocade, Juniper, 
Extreme, etc. 
Even the top-of-the-line Mikrotik only costs US$899. 


-Adam 





Adam Thompson 
Consultant, Infrastructure Services 
[MERLIN LOGO]
100 - 135 Innovation Drive 
Winnipeg, MB, R3T 6A8 
(204) 977-6824 or 1-800-430-6404 (MB only) 
athomp...@merlin.mb.ca 
www.merlin.mb.ca 


From: NANOG  on behalf of Mauro Gasparini 
 
Sent: Thursday, May 14, 2020 8:46:21 AM 
To: Mehmet Akcin 
Cc: nanog 
Subject: Re: Switch for SFP+ 

Thank you. The problem is that to get a price lower than U$D 3000 I have to 
resort to a used device. 


El 14/5/20 a las 01:08, Mehmet Akcin escribió: 




Used Juniper QFX5100-48T will do it. Probably overkill but you can grab one 
cheap @ebay 



On Wed, May 13, 2020 at 16:36 Mauro Gasparini < mjgaspar...@gmail.com > wrote: 


Good afternoon. 

I'm looking for a switch with the following capabilities: 
. transport for more than 20 gbps 
. link aggregation LACP 
. slots for SFP+ 
. seamlessly when trunking vlans through the link aggregation. 

And essentially that doesn't exceed US$D 2000 and is compatible with 
10GBASE-ER and/or 10GBASE-ZR modules that are not from the vendor itself 
(e.g. SPFs: Huawei, Mikrotik, Sumitomo, OEMs). 

If any of you have a good experience with a device that meets these 
requirements (which are minimal with the exception of price and 
compatibility) ? 

Regards. 
Mauro Gasparini 


-- 

Mehmet 
+1-424-298-1903

Re: Switch for SFP+

2020-05-15 Thread Mauro Gasparini

I have no experience with Ubiquiti EdgeSwitch. I know its wireless 
product very wel, but I have no knowledge of how switches behave.


El 14/5/20 a las 16:13, Kevin Shymkiw escribió:
While I am not sure on the optics support - what about a Ubiquiti 
EdgeSwitch 16XG?


12x SFP+ ports
4x RJ-45 Ports

https://www.ui.com/edgemax/edgeswitch-16-xg/

It isn't expandable - but maybe 12xSFP+ is enough?

On Wed, May 13, 2020 at 5:37 PM Mauro Gasparini > wrote:


Good afternoon.

I'm looking for a switch with the following capabilities:
. transport for more than 20 gbps
. link aggregation LACP
. slots for SFP+
. seamlessly when trunking vlans through the link aggregation.

And essentially that doesn't exceed US$D 2000 and is compatible with
10GBASE-ER and/or 10GBASE-ZR modules that are not from the vendor
itself
(e.g. SPFs: Huawei, Mikrotik, Sumitomo, OEMs).

If any of you have a good experience with a device that meets these
requirements (which are minimal with the exception of price and
compatibility) ?

Regards.
Mauro Gasparini

Re: Switch for SFP+

2020-05-15 Thread Mauro Gasparini

Thanks. I am currently using CRS326-24G-2S+ (with routerOS) for this,
but when I want to do vlan trunking through the bonding, cpu load grows
from 3% to more than 90%.
I'm consulting Mikrotik's support in the meantime, because routerOS
probably doesn't take advantage of the switch hardware as swOS would.

El 15/5/20 a las 10:03, Alain Hebert escribió:

Hi,

Mikrotik is a decent product and I'm always amazed at their
features set, but...

Using the UI to configuring the switch will punt too much traffic
toward the CPU. However, it is possible to configure the switch
fabric with the cli and attain the desired results.

It does not compare to a JNP QFX5100 or a Extreme Network x650,
x670... etc.

-
Alain hebertaheb...@pubnix.net
PubNIX Inc.

50 boul. St-Charles
P.O. Box 26770 Beaconsfield, Quebec H9W 6G7
Tel: 514-990-5911http://www.pubnix.net Fax: 514-990-9443
On 2020-05-14 15:11, Adam Thompson wrote:

Have you actually looked at Mikrotik switches? I don't like the OS,
but the hardware does what you want it to.

https://mikrotik.com/products/group/switches?filter&s=c&r={%22sfp_plus_interface%22:{%22s%22:%223%22,%22e%22:%2224%22}}#!

If necessary, buy your SFP modules from FS.com and get them coded as
Mikrotik modules at the factory - that's what we do for Cisco,
Brocade, Juniper, Extreme, etc.

Even the top-of-the-line Mikrotik only costs US$899.

-Adam

*From:* NANOG on behalf of Mauro Gasparini

*Sent:* Thursday, May 14, 2020 8:46:21 AM
*To:* Mehmet Akcin
*Cc:* nanog
*Subject:* Re: Switch for SFP+
Thank you. The problem is that to get a price lower than U$D 3000 I
have to resort to a used device.

El 14/5/20 a las 01:08, Mehmet Akcin escribió:
Used Juniper QFX5100-48T will do it. Probably overkill but you can
grab one cheap @ebay

On Wed, May 13, 2020 at 16:36 Mauro Gasparini <mailto:mjgaspar...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Good afternoon.

I'm looking for a switch with the following capabilities:
. transport for more than 20 gbps
. link aggregation LACP
. slots for SFP+
. seamlessly when trunking vlans through the link aggregation.

And essentially that doesn't exceed US$D 2000 and is compatible
with
10GBASE-ER and/or 10GBASE-ZR modules that are not from the
vendor itself
(e.g. SPFs: Huawei, Mikrotik, Sumitomo, OEMs).

If any of you have a good experience with a device that meets these
requirements (which are minimal with the exception of price and
compatibility) ?

Regards.
Mauro Gasparini

--
Mehmet
+1-424-298-1903

Re: Switch for SFP+

2020-05-15 Thread Alain Hebert

Hi,

Mikrotik is a decent product and I'm always amazed at their
features set, but...

Using the UI to configuring the switch will punt too much traffic
toward the CPU. However, it is possible to configure the switch fabric
with the cli and attain the desired results.

It does not compare to a JNP QFX5100 or a Extreme Network x650,
x670... etc.

-
Alain Hebertaheb...@pubnix.net
PubNIX Inc.
50 boul. St-Charles
P.O. Box 26770 Beaconsfield, Quebec H9W 6G7
Tel: 514-990-5911 http://www.pubnix.netFax: 514-990-9443

On 2020-05-14 15:11, Adam Thompson wrote:

Have you actually looked at Mikrotik switches? I don't like the OS,
but the hardware does what you want it to.

https://mikrotik.com/products/group/switches?filter&s=c&r={%22sfp_plus_interface%22:{%22s%22:%223%22,%22e%22:%2224%22}}#!

If necessary, buy your SFP modules from FS.com and get them coded as
Mikrotik modules at the factory - that's what we do for Cisco,
Brocade, Juniper, Extreme, etc.

Even the top-of-the-line Mikrotik only costs US$899.

-Adam

*From:* NANOG on behalf of Mauro Gasparini

El 14/5/20 a las 01:08, Mehmet Akcin escribió:
Used Juniper QFX5100-48T will do it. Probably overkill but you can
grab one cheap @ebay

On Wed, May 13, 2020 at 16:36 Mauro Gasparini <mailto:mjgaspar...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Good afternoon.

I'm looking for a switch with the following capabilities:
. transport for more than 20 gbps
. link aggregation LACP
. slots for SFP+
. seamlessly when trunking vlans through the link aggregation.

And essentially that doesn't exceed US$D 2000 and is compatible with
10GBASE-ER and/or 10GBASE-ZR modules that are not from the vendor
itself
(e.g. SPFs: Huawei, Mikrotik, Sumitomo, OEMs).

If any of you have a good experience with a device that meets these
requirements (which are minimal with the exception of price and
compatibility) ?

Regards.
Mauro Gasparini

--
Mehmet
+1-424-298-1903

RE: Switch for SFP+

2020-05-14 Thread nathanb

https://mikrotik.com/product/crs312_4c_8xg_rm

 


Regards,

Nathan Babcock
President - Straight Shot Wireless

O: 575-208-7915

 <http://www.sswireless.net/> 

 

From: NANOG  On Behalf Of Mauro Gasparini
Sent: Thursday, May 14, 2020 7:46 AM
To: Mehmet Akcin 
Cc: nanog 
Subject: Re: Switch for SFP+

 

Thank you. The problem is that to get a price lower than U$D 3000 I have to 
resort to a used device.

El 14/5/20 a las 01:08, Mehmet Akcin escribió:

Used Juniper QFX5100-48T will do it. Probably overkill but you can grab one 
cheap @ebay

 

On Wed, May 13, 2020 at 16:36 Mauro Gasparini mailto:mjgaspar...@gmail.com> > wrote:

Good afternoon.

I'm looking for a switch with the following capabilities:
. transport for more than 20 gbps
. link aggregation LACP
. slots for SFP+
. seamlessly when trunking vlans through the link aggregation.

And essentially that doesn't exceed US$D 2000 and is compatible with 
10GBASE-ER and/or 10GBASE-ZR modules that are not from the vendor itself 
(e.g. SPFs: Huawei, Mikrotik, Sumitomo, OEMs).

If any of you have a good experience with a device that meets these 
requirements (which are minimal with the exception of price and 
compatibility) ?

Regards.
Mauro Gasparini

-- 

Mehmet
+1-424-298-1903

Re: Switch for SFP+

2020-05-14 Thread Kevin Shymkiw

While I am not sure on the optics support - what about a Ubiquiti
EdgeSwitch 16XG?

12x SFP+ ports
4x RJ-45 Ports

https://www.ui.com/edgemax/edgeswitch-16-xg/

It isn't expandable - but maybe 12xSFP+ is enough?

On Wed, May 13, 2020 at 5:37 PM Mauro Gasparini 
wrote:

> Good afternoon.
>
> I'm looking for a switch with the following capabilities:
> . transport for more than 20 gbps
> . link aggregation LACP
> . slots for SFP+
> . seamlessly when trunking vlans through the link aggregation.
>
> And essentially that doesn't exceed US$D 2000 and is compatible with
> 10GBASE-ER and/or 10GBASE-ZR modules that are not from the vendor itself
> (e.g. SPFs: Huawei, Mikrotik, Sumitomo, OEMs).
>
> If any of you have a good experience with a device that meets these
> requirements (which are minimal with the exception of price and
> compatibility) ?
>
> Regards.
> Mauro Gasparini
>

Re: Switch for SFP+

2020-05-14 Thread Adam Thompson

Have you actually looked at Mikrotik switches?  I don't like the OS, but the 
hardware does what you want it to.


https://mikrotik.com/products/group/switches?filter&s=c&r={%22sfp_plus_interface%22:{%22s%22:%223%22,%22e%22:%2224%22}}#!

If necessary, buy your SFP modules from FS.com and get them coded as Mikrotik 
modules at the factory - that's what we do for Cisco, Brocade, Juniper, 
Extreme, etc.

Even the top-of-the-line Mikrotik only costs US$899.


-Adam

Adam Thompson
Consultant, Infrastructure Services
[[MERLIN LOGO]]
100 - 135 Innovation Drive
Winnipeg, MB, R3T 6A8
(204) 977-6824 or 1-800-430-6404 (MB only)
athomp...@merlin.mb.ca<mailto:athomp...@merlin.mb.ca>
www.merlin.mb.ca<http://www.merlin.mb.ca/>


From: NANOG  on behalf of Mauro Gasparini 

Sent: Thursday, May 14, 2020 8:46:21 AM
To: Mehmet Akcin
Cc: nanog
Subject: Re: Switch for SFP+

Thank you. The problem is that to get a price lower than U$D 3000 I have to 
resort to a used device.

El 14/5/20 a las 01:08, Mehmet Akcin escribió:
Used Juniper QFX5100-48T will do it. Probably overkill but you can grab one 
cheap @ebay

On Wed, May 13, 2020 at 16:36 Mauro Gasparini 
mailto:mjgaspar...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Good afternoon.

I'm looking for a switch with the following capabilities:
. transport for more than 20 gbps
. link aggregation LACP
. slots for SFP+
. seamlessly when trunking vlans through the link aggregation.

And essentially that doesn't exceed US$D 2000 and is compatible with
10GBASE-ER and/or 10GBASE-ZR modules that are not from the vendor itself
(e.g. SPFs: Huawei, Mikrotik, Sumitomo, OEMs).

If any of you have a good experience with a device that meets these
requirements (which are minimal with the exception of price and
compatibility) ?

Regards.
Mauro Gasparini
--
Mehmet
+1-424-298-1903

Re: Switch for SFP+

2020-05-14 Thread Rudy Rucker


Hi Mehmet,

This budget SFP+ switch: https://mikrotik.com/product/crs317_1g_16s_rm 
works great.
In the past, we've used those to add extra fiber ports to lower end 
router/switches.


Rudy

Re: Switch for SFP+

2020-05-14 Thread Mauro Gasparini

Thank you. The problem is that to get a price lower than U$D 3000 I have 
to resort to a used device.


El 14/5/20 a las 01:08, Mehmet Akcin escribió:
Used Juniper QFX5100-48T will do it. Probably overkill but you can 
grab one cheap @ebay


On Wed, May 13, 2020 at 16:36 Mauro Gasparini > wrote:


Good afternoon.

I'm looking for a switch with the following capabilities:
. transport for more than 20 gbps
. link aggregation LACP
. slots for SFP+
. seamlessly when trunking vlans through the link aggregation.

And essentially that doesn't exceed US$D 2000 and is compatible with
10GBASE-ER and/or 10GBASE-ZR modules that are not from the vendor
itself
(e.g. SPFs: Huawei, Mikrotik, Sumitomo, OEMs).

If any of you have a good experience with a device that meets these
requirements (which are minimal with the exception of price and
compatibility) ?

Regards.
Mauro Gasparini

--
Mehmet
+1-424-298-1903

Re: Switch for SFP+

2020-05-14 Thread Jörg Kost


Hello Mauro,

the ICX7250-24P-2X10G may fit. 2×10 GbE SFP+, 6x1 GbE, can be licensed 
for full 8x10G.


Regards
Jörg


On 13 May 2020, at 20:56, Mauro Gasparini wrote:


Good afternoon.

I'm looking for a switch with the following capabilities:
. transport for more than 20 gbps
. link aggregation LACP
. slots for SFP+
. seamlessly when trunking vlans through the link aggregation.

And essentially that doesn't exceed US$D 2000 and is compatible with 
10GBASE-ER and/or 10GBASE-ZR modules that are not from the vendor 
itself (e.g. SPFs: Huawei, Mikrotik, Sumitomo, OEMs).


If any of you have a good experience with a device that meets these 
requirements (which are minimal with the exception of price and 
compatibility) ?


Regards.
Mauro Gasparini

Re: Switch for SFP+

2020-05-13 Thread Mehmet Akcin

Used Juniper QFX5100-48T will do it. Probably overkill but you can grab one
cheap @ebay

On Wed, May 13, 2020 at 16:36 Mauro Gasparini  wrote:

> Good afternoon.
>
> I'm looking for a switch with the following capabilities:
> . transport for more than 20 gbps
> . link aggregation LACP
> . slots for SFP+
> . seamlessly when trunking vlans through the link aggregation.
>
> And essentially that doesn't exceed US$D 2000 and is compatible with
> 10GBASE-ER and/or 10GBASE-ZR modules that are not from the vendor itself
> (e.g. SPFs: Huawei, Mikrotik, Sumitomo, OEMs).
>
> If any of you have a good experience with a device that meets these
> requirements (which are minimal with the exception of price and
> compatibility) ?
>
> Regards.
> Mauro Gasparini
>
-- 
Mehmet
+1-424-298-1903

Switch for SFP+

2020-05-13 Thread Mauro Gasparini


Good afternoon.

I'm looking for a switch with the following capabilities:
. transport for more than 20 gbps
. link aggregation LACP
. slots for SFP+
. seamlessly when trunking vlans through the link aggregation.

And essentially that doesn't exceed US$D 2000 and is compatible with 
10GBASE-ER and/or 10GBASE-ZR modules that are not from the vendor itself 
(e.g. SPFs: Huawei, Mikrotik, Sumitomo, OEMs).


If any of you have a good experience with a device that meets these 
requirements (which are minimal with the exception of price and 
compatibility) ?


Regards.
Mauro Gasparini

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