[neonixie-l] Re: Counterfeit RTC modules

2016-02-04 Thread 'Terry S' via neonixie-l
Greg, you really ought to inform Maxim. They may want the part.
Terry

On Thursday, February 4, 2016 at 9:04:45 AM UTC-6, gregebert wrote:

> Lesson learned: You get what you pay for.
>
> I bought a $2 US realtime clock module on Ebay, imported from China, and 
> the DS3231 chip appears to be counterfeit because it was not keeping 
> accurate time. I was suspicious about the price, considering I paid almost 
> $8 US just for the DS3231 from a reputable supplier. Over a few days, it 
> lost about 1 hour of time.
>
> After replacing the chip with a genuine Maxim DS3231, it's running 
> correctly.
>
> A quick web-search found there are several others who have experienced 
> this.
>
> Despite having to replace the RTC chip, the module itself is still worth 
> the price because it included a rechargeable Li-ion coin battery and a 
> serial EEPROM (no time yet to see if that's working correctly...)
>

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Re: [neonixie-l] Counterfeit RTC modules

2016-02-04 Thread Dan Hollis
I don't understand why chinese bother to counterfeit LM2596s, but they do 
all the same. In fact 99% of the dc buck converters you find on amazon and 
ebay are counterfeits.


-Dan

On Thu, 4 Feb 2016, David Forbes wrote:

Sorry, but I do not understand this race to the bottom, that produces 
products that look like products that work. Why not just buy a working chip 
for the price of a working chip, and save yourself the hassle and 
disillusionment that comes with a part whose price is clearly too low to be a 
working product?


The odds of the rest of the module working properly are not too high. You 
might spend hours dealing with the fallout of saving ten dollars.



On 2/4/16 8:04 AM, gregebert wrote:

Lesson learned: You get what you pay for.

I bought a $2 US realtime clock module on Ebay, imported from China, and
the DS3231 chip appears to be counterfeit because it was not keeping
accurate time. I was suspicious about the price, considering I paid almost
$8 US just for the DS3231 from a reputable supplier. Over a few days, it
lost about 1 hour of time.

After replacing the chip with a genuine Maxim DS3231, it's running
correctly.

A quick web-search found there are several others who have experienced 
this.


Despite having to replace the RTC chip, the module itself is still worth
the price because it included a rechargeable Li-ion coin battery and a
serial EEPROM (no time yet to see if that's working correctly...)




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Re: [neonixie-l] Counterfeit RTC modules

2016-02-04 Thread David Forbes
Sorry, but I do not understand this race to the bottom, that produces 
products that look like products that work. Why not just buy a working 
chip for the price of a working chip, and save yourself the hassle and 
disillusionment that comes with a part whose price is clearly too low to 
be a working product?


The odds of the rest of the module working properly are not too high. 
You might spend hours dealing with the fallout of saving ten dollars.



On 2/4/16 8:04 AM, gregebert wrote:

Lesson learned: You get what you pay for.

I bought a $2 US realtime clock module on Ebay, imported from China, and
the DS3231 chip appears to be counterfeit because it was not keeping
accurate time. I was suspicious about the price, considering I paid almost
$8 US just for the DS3231 from a reputable supplier. Over a few days, it
lost about 1 hour of time.

After replacing the chip with a genuine Maxim DS3231, it's running
correctly.

A quick web-search found there are several others who have experienced this.

Despite having to replace the RTC chip, the module itself is still worth
the price because it included a rechargeable Li-ion coin battery and a
serial EEPROM (no time yet to see if that's working correctly...)




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[neonixie-l] Counterfeit RTC modules

2016-02-04 Thread gregebert
Lesson learned: You get what you pay for.

I bought a $2 US realtime clock module on Ebay, imported from China, and 
the DS3231 chip appears to be counterfeit because it was not keeping 
accurate time. I was suspicious about the price, considering I paid almost 
$8 US just for the DS3231 from a reputable supplier. Over a few days, it 
lost about 1 hour of time.

After replacing the chip with a genuine Maxim DS3231, it's running 
correctly.

A quick web-search found there are several others who have experienced this.

Despite having to replace the RTC chip, the module itself is still worth 
the price because it included a rechargeable Li-ion coin battery and a 
serial EEPROM (no time yet to see if that's working correctly...)

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Re: [neonixie-l] Counterfeit RTC modules

2016-02-04 Thread gregebert
Another possibility is that these were scrapped/rejected units that escaped 
destruction at Maxim, and ended-up being sold, obviously illegally, and 
wound-up in products. 

It does seem odd to me that someone would go to the bother, not to mention 
the expense, of copying an inexpensive part and selling it.

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'souvenir' wafer of a chip I worked-on that was never taken into production.

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