Re: [neonixie-l] 8091 assembly

[jb-electronics]

I guess I just don't understand why people get so upset. Let him put 
them up for $1,000. Or $10,000. Who cares? They are his, and he can set 
the price. Nobody is forcing anybody to buy them :)


Jens

On 2019-06-27 10:39 p.m., gregebert wrote:

>Jens Boos wrote:

To be fair, even for used tubes $200 for a set of 5 is a tad
optimistic ;-)


Absolutely! Since I'm not dead-set on building an 8091-based clock, 
I'm only bidding opportunistically.
If I got them, they would go into a box until I have time to build 
something a few years from now.


It's too easy to get caught-up in nixie-tube bidding based on how much 
you might want a particular tube (I'm an addict, and I want 
themwhat can I say ???), so I've cut-out the emotional part of how 
I value a tube, and base my bid on cost for a given size relative to 
other available tubes. No surprise, I lose a lot of auctions. But at 
least my garage doesn't look like an episode of 'Extreme Hoarders' on TV.


The 1.375" (35mm)  character-height of a b8091 is less than a IN-18 
(40mm), and these b8091 tubes have an undocumented history.
They are substantially smaller than the RZ568m, which is brand-new, 
has a 10-year warranty, and in my opinion has better construction.

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Re: [neonixie-l] 8091 assembly

[gregebert]

>Jens Boos wrote:
>
> To be fair, even for used tubes $200 for a set of 5 is a tad optimistic ;-)
>

Absolutely! Since I'm not dead-set on building an 8091-based clock, I'm 
only bidding opportunistically.
If I got them, they would go into a box until I have time to build 
something a few years from now.

It's too easy to get caught-up in nixie-tube bidding based on how much you 
might want a particular tube (I'm an addict, and I want themwhat can I 
say ???), so I've cut-out the emotional part of how I value a tube, and 
base my bid on cost for a given size relative to other available tubes. No 
surprise, I lose a lot of auctions. But at least my garage doesn't look 
like an episode of 'Extreme Hoarders' on TV.

The 1.375" (35mm)  character-height of a b8091 is less than a IN-18 (40mm), 
and these b8091 tubes have an undocumented history.
They are substantially smaller than the RZ568m, which is brand-new, has a 
10-year warranty, and in my opinion has better construction.

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Re: [neonixie-l] 8091 assembly

[Kevin A.]

He'll probably croak before he sells a single one.

On Thu, Jun 27, 2019, 11:39 PM 'Greg P' via neonixie-l <
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> This guy is a complete flake.  Looks like he's getting nervous no one has
> bitten on his price.  I may bid a dollar for the hell of it.
>
> Just think he has 4 more of these Telectron units to list after this one.
>
>
>
> On Thursday, June 27, 2019 at 11:29:11 PM UTC-4, gregebert wrote:
>>
>> Price reduction!!  It's now 1249.99   
>>
>> Make-offer is now enabled, but my offer of $200 was immediately rejected,
>> meaning the seller has set a higher threshold and did not even consider
>> mine.
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Re: [neonixie-l] 8091 assembly

['Greg P' via neonixie-l]

This guy is a complete flake.  Looks like he's getting nervous no one has 
bitten on his price.  I may bid a dollar for the hell of it.  

Just think he has 4 more of these Telectron units to list after this one.  



On Thursday, June 27, 2019 at 11:29:11 PM UTC-4, gregebert wrote:
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> Price reduction!!  It's now 1249.99   
>
> Make-offer is now enabled, but my offer of $200 was immediately rejected, 
> meaning the seller has set a higher threshold and did not even consider 
> mine.
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Re: [neonixie-l] 8091 assembly

[jb-electronics]

To be fair, even for used tubes $200 for a set of 5 is a tad optimistic ;-)

On 2019-06-27 9:29 p.m., gregebert wrote:

Price reduction!!  It's now 1249.99   

Make-offer is now enabled, but my offer of $200 was immediately 
rejected, meaning the seller has set a higher threshold and did not 
even consider mine.

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Re: [neonixie-l] 8091 assembly

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Price reduction!!  It's now 1249.99   

Make-offer is now enabled, but my offer of $200 was immediately rejected, 
meaning the seller has set a higher threshold and did not even consider 
mine.

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[neonixie-l] Re: Really??

[martin martin]

And... not even tested!


On Thursday, June 27, 2019 at 1:54:53 PM UTC-7, Pramanicin wrote:
>
> Have people really gone this mad?
>
>
> https://www.ebay.com/itm/2-x-NOS-National-NL5441A-Nixie-Tube/293131131127?_trkparms=aid%3D777001%26algo%3DDISCO.FEED%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D20160801204525%26meid%3D3034dfd322eb44cfb3e4e4e5a7e5fdce%26pid%3D100651%26rk%3D1%26rkt%3D1%26%26itm%3D293131131127&_trksid=p2481888.c100651.m4497&_trkparms=pageci%3A8d9bf46f-991d-11e9-91e1-74dbd180afaf%7Cparentrq%3A9ab687a416b0a4b7b6d504c5ffa122af%7Ciid%3A1
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> Currently $96 dollars for two...you can buy two ZM1042's for that money!
>
> I may have to start selling some...;-)
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[neonixie-l] Re: Really??

[Robert L]

Can't wait to grab these in the last seconds...  Not!


Anticipa...


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Re: [neonixie-l] Really??

[Jon Jackson]

Untested even !!

On Thu, Jun 27, 2019 at 2:58 PM Kevin A. 
wrote:

> Looks like more sellers juicing up their own auctions.
>
> On Thu, Jun 27, 2019, 4:54 PM Nicholas Stock  wrote:
>
>> Have people really gone this mad?
>>
>>
>> https://www.ebay.com/itm/2-x-NOS-National-NL5441A-Nixie-Tube/293131131127?_trkparms=aid%3D777001%26algo%3DDISCO.FEED%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D20160801204525%26meid%3D3034dfd322eb44cfb3e4e4e5a7e5fdce%26pid%3D100651%26rk%3D1%26rkt%3D1%26%26itm%3D293131131127&_trksid=p2481888.c100651.m4497&_trkparms=pageci%3A8d9bf46f-991d-11e9-91e1-74dbd180afaf%7Cparentrq%3A9ab687a416b0a4b7b6d504c5ffa122af%7Ciid%3A1
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>> Currently $96 dollars for two...you can buy two ZM1042's for that money!
>>
>> I may have to start selling some...;-)
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Re: [neonixie-l] Really??

[Kevin A.]

Looks like more sellers juicing up their own auctions.

On Thu, Jun 27, 2019, 4:54 PM Nicholas Stock  wrote:

> Have people really gone this mad?
>
>
> https://www.ebay.com/itm/2-x-NOS-National-NL5441A-Nixie-Tube/293131131127?_trkparms=aid%3D777001%26algo%3DDISCO.FEED%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D20160801204525%26meid%3D3034dfd322eb44cfb3e4e4e5a7e5fdce%26pid%3D100651%26rk%3D1%26rkt%3D1%26%26itm%3D293131131127&_trksid=p2481888.c100651.m4497&_trkparms=pageci%3A8d9bf46f-991d-11e9-91e1-74dbd180afaf%7Cparentrq%3A9ab687a416b0a4b7b6d504c5ffa122af%7Ciid%3A1
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>
> I may have to start selling some...;-)
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[neonixie-l] Really??

[Nicholas Stock]

Have people really gone this mad?

https://www.ebay.com/itm/2-x-NOS-National-NL5441A-Nixie-Tube/293131131127?_trkparms=aid%3D777001%26algo%3DDISCO.FEED%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D20160801204525%26meid%3D3034dfd322eb44cfb3e4e4e5a7e5fdce%26pid%3D100651%26rk%3D1%26rkt%3D1%26%26itm%3D293131131127&_trksid=p2481888.c100651.m4497&_trkparms=pageci%3A8d9bf46f-991d-11e9-91e1-74dbd180afaf%7Cparentrq%3A9ab687a416b0a4b7b6d504c5ffa122af%7Ciid%3A1

Currently $96 dollars for two...you can buy two ZM1042's for that money!

I may have to start selling some...;-)

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Re: [neonixie-l] 8091 assembly

[Mac Doktor]

> On Jun 27, 2019, at 12:58 PM, Dekatron42  wrote:
> 
> I checked the auction one more time and just realized that I’ve had similar 
> bad experiences with the seller like Greg P here, I just didn’t check who the 
> seller was first.

I see that all of his sales are listed as "private" on the feedback page. Does 
that have anything to do with all this?


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Re: [neonixie-l] Re: 8091 assembly

[Dekatron42]

I checked the auction one more time and just realized that I’ve had similar bad 
experiences with the seller like Greg P here, I just didn’t check who the 
seller was first.

/Martin

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Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Anyone still make dekatron spinners or have any pcb's or kits?

[Bill Notfaded]

Is it totugascuba's?  If not maybe post it or email it to me.

Thanks,

Bill

On Wed, Jun 26, 2019, 6:48 PM martin martin  wrote:

> I found the schematic for one!  It's the same one I built back in '04
>
>
> On Wednesday, May 1, 2019 at 10:23:08 AM UTC-7, Bill Notfaded wrote:
>>
>> I've been interested in nixie and numitrons for a long time but somehow
>> have overlooked dekatrons.  Considering my field of study and work (CIS)
>> I'm not sure how... anyhow I've done a lot of digging but it seems no ones
>> really making or selling anything to run dekatrons with anymore.  I bought
>> a NIB Sylvania 6476A because it looked like as good of a place to start as
>> any.  It looks like some people have made some pretty flexible designs and
>> I was wondering if anyone could help point me in the right direction?  I've
>> seen some neat clock designs as well using a dekatron for pendulum, or even
>> a clock, and it looks like a couple people used to make and sell some
>> really neat dekatron pcb's to build B12E base spinners.  I hope I didn't
>> totally miss the boat?  With bigger tubes getting more and more scarce it
>> seems like dekatrons is still an area that would fun to explore.  I'm
>> always interested in something new to work on and ever since finally
>> getting a metcal soldering station I'd wanted for a long time I've been
>> wanting to solder everything under the sun... and it makes a good hobby
>> away from work.
>>
>> I'd even be into possibly getting some boards made if someone had a
>> design that was flexible and didn't mind sharing it if no one has anything
>> else.
>>
>> Bill
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[neonixie-l] Re: Mullard ZM1200 Pandicon available

[Roddy Scott]

The seller has come back with a reasonable price for this to include 
shipping. VAT free to non-European countries.

PM if interested.

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Re: [neonixie-l] Re: 8091 assembly

[Dekatron42]

There are many options to have negative feedback removed on eBay, just Google 
and read some expertise help on how to do it or check eBay policies here: 
https://www.ebay.com/help/selling/leaving-feedback-buyers/disputing-feedback-received?id=4102
 for an understanding that eBay is always on the seller side since the sellers 
are what brings revenue to eBay, not the buyers!

I’ve seen it done several times by sellers and I always let friends know which 
sellers behave poorly not taking responsibility or in some cases outright lying.

/Martin

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