Re: [neonixie-l] Distance on pins for PCB-socket versus solder-lug socket?

[Dekatron42]

Thanks!

That was a nice way of getting greater creepage distance.

I'll see what can be done with the original solder lug sockets that I have 
for these.

/Martin

On Monday, 16 December 2019 00:32:11 UTC+1, nixiebunny wrote:
>
> Martin,
>
> Here is how I cut the tube socket pins to fit in PC board holes. 
>

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Re: [neonixie-l] Distance on pins for PCB-socket versus solder-lug socket?

[Dekatron42]

I wouldn't bend the pins on the tube, the glass is way to brittle for that.

Do you have any photo of how you did trim the sockets?

/Martin

On Sunday, 15 December 2019 22:51:34 UTC+1, nixiebunny wrote:
>
> Martin,
>
> First, do not bend the pins on the tube. I cannot tell what exactly is 
> your concern. Is it the gap between pads for high voltage creepage? You can 
> maximize this by using an oblong pad.
>
> If you have any solder tail sockets, you can use those. I made a bunch of 
> Nixie clocks in the olden days, using the B13A solder tail sockets on PC 
> boards. I used a trick of trimming the solder ring longer on one side and 
> shorter on the other side, to convert these sockets to fit in a PC board. I 
> made a custom pattern with a slight angular offset to handle this. 
>
>
> On Sun, Dec 15, 2019, 11:39 AM Dekatron42  > wrote:
>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> I am trying to discern what distance is really necessary for a B27A & 
>> B26A sockets when they should be made with Nixie-pins on a PCB, the B27A 
>> pin socket is used for GSA10G and the B26A is used for Burroughs BX-1000 
>> series of tubes.
>>
>> The original PCB mounting socket that I've seen have at least 5 
>> millimeter between the pins as they are bent outwards and longer than the 
>> standard straight Nixie sockets used for PCB mounting. getting the same 
>> spacing with Nixie pins would require that I bend the Nixie-pins and that 
>> would complicate things like mounting. The original B26A socket has some 
>> 3.17 millimeter between the outer pins (17 pins (actually 18 but one 
>> unfilled position) with an 18.2 millimeter diameter) and 3.87 millimeter 
>> between the inner pins (9 pins with an 11.1 millimeter diameter). The B27A 
>> socket has an extra pin in the center which is the anode with some 500V on 
>> it and that sits approximately 5mm from the inner ring with pins. Now I I 
>> haven't taken into account the solder pad size for these figures so the 
>> distance between solder pads makes the actual distance shorter, for the 
>> Anode on the B27A socket I can solder a wire so i wouldn't have to route it 
>> between the other pins, but for the B26A socket I would like to route the 
>> wires between the pins making the distance even shorter between solder pads 
>> and wires.
>>
>> The Burroughs tubes has a maximum of 300V between the pins and the GSA10G 
>> has some 240V between main Anode and a Cathode and some 225V on the 
>> Auxilliary Anode when running.
>>
>> Any help is highly appreciated!
>>
>> /Martin
>>
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Re: [neonixie-l] Distance on pins for PCB-socket versus solder-lug socket?

[David Forbes]

Martin,

First, do not bend the pins on the tube. I cannot tell what exactly is your
concern. Is it the gap between pads for high voltage creepage? You can
maximize this by using an oblong pad.

If you have any solder tail sockets, you can use those. I made a bunch of
Nixie clocks in the olden days, using the B13A solder tail sockets on PC
boards. I used a trick of trimming the solder ring longer on one side and
shorter on the other side, to convert these sockets to fit in a PC board. I
made a custom pattern with a slight angular offset to handle this.


On Sun, Dec 15, 2019, 11:39 AM Dekatron42  wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> I am trying to discern what distance is really necessary for a B27A & B26A
> sockets when they should be made with Nixie-pins on a PCB, the B27A pin
> socket is used for GSA10G and the B26A is used for Burroughs BX-1000 series
> of tubes.
>
> The original PCB mounting socket that I've seen have at least 5 millimeter
> between the pins as they are bent outwards and longer than the standard
> straight Nixie sockets used for PCB mounting. getting the same spacing with
> Nixie pins would require that I bend the Nixie-pins and that would
> complicate things like mounting. The original B26A socket has some 3.17
> millimeter between the outer pins (17 pins (actually 18 but one unfilled
> position) with an 18.2 millimeter diameter) and 3.87 millimeter between the
> inner pins (9 pins with an 11.1 millimeter diameter). The B27A socket has
> an extra pin in the center which is the anode with some 500V on it and that
> sits approximately 5mm from the inner ring with pins. Now I I haven't taken
> into account the solder pad size for these figures so the distance between
> solder pads makes the actual distance shorter, for the Anode on the B27A
> socket I can solder a wire so i wouldn't have to route it between the other
> pins, but for the B26A socket I would like to route the wires between the
> pins making the distance even shorter between solder pads and wires.
>
> The Burroughs tubes has a maximum of 300V between the pins and the GSA10G
> has some 240V between main Anode and a Cathode and some 225V on the
> Auxilliary Anode when running.
>
> Any help is highly appreciated!
>
> /Martin
>
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Re: [neonixie-l] Nixie look alike Calc for Apple devices

[martin martin]

Here's one for the IPhone!

Simulated Nixies

https://apps.apple.com/us/app/tubeclock/id569680872





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On Sun, Dec 15, 2019 at 12:25 PM Mac Doktor  wrote:

>
> On Dec 15, 2019, at 7:19 AM, 'orange_glow_fan' via neonixie-l <
> neonixie-l@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
> It looks like this will only work on IOS 13.0 and above? (Iphone 6S and
> above)
>
>
> 13.1. Somebody please get me a new phone. I blew all my money on a new
> computer.
>
> Will there be a macOS version?
>
>
> Terry Bowman, KA4HJH
> "The Mac Doctor”
>
> "Never install version point-zero of anything"
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Re: [neonixie-l] Free giant tube! CX1140LE Thyraton

[Mac Doktor]

> On Dec 15, 2019, at 3:26 PM, GastonP  wrote:
> 
> Hoarder... :)

I'll take that as a complement (if it was referring to me). All of it has been 
stored in a smoke free, climate controlled environment. An environment that's 
crammed full. The heart of my Nixie collection is test gear that a friend 
(who's even more of a hoarder and has better stuff) reluctantly gave to me 
before he had to pack up and move to a smaller house.


Terry Bowman, KA4HJH
"The Mac Doctor"

Q: Should car stereo speakers be pointed to the rear for more thrust or up for 
more traction?

A. On long trips, the 20- to 30% improvement in gas mileage you might get with 
speakers pointing to the rear is certainly worthwhile. On the other hand, if 
you drive on snow or ice, the extra traction of speakers pointing upward gives 
you added control.

Don Lancaster

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Re: [neonixie-l] NixieStar is in Nuts and Volts

[Bill Notfaded]

Wow that's different for sure!  I like it!

Bill

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[neonixie-l] Argon Piranha

[Bill Notfaded]

Awesome Mahdi... I like the tube in there!

Bill

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Re: [neonixie-l] Free giant tube! CX1140LE Thyraton

[GastonP]

Hoarder... :)

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Re: [neonixie-l] Nixie look alike Calc for Apple devices

[Mac Doktor]

> On Dec 15, 2019, at 7:19 AM, 'orange_glow_fan' via neonixie-l 
>  wrote:
> 
> It looks like this will only work on IOS 13.0 and above? (Iphone 6S and 
> above)

13.1. Somebody please get me a new phone. I blew all my money on a new computer.

Will there be a macOS version?


Terry Bowman, KA4HJH
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"Never install version point-zero of anything"

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Re: [neonixie-l] Free giant tube! CX1140LE Thyraton

[Mac Doktor]

> On Dec 15, 2019, at 2:16 PM, martin martin  wrote:
> 
> I had no idea this would go so fast!
> Sorry guys- it's shipping to the southern end of CA.  
> 
> Don't fret though-  I'll get more.  It came from a Varian machine - oncology 
> clinic

I have one that's very similar but no idea where it is so I can't make a 
comparison. Nevertheless, if you have more I'm interested.


Terry Bowman, KA4HJH
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[neonixie-l] FW-TH revB voltage?

[Bill Notfaded]

They made me a deal too I bought it direct and not on the bay.  Seen like nice 
people.

Bill

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[neonixie-l] FW-TH revB voltage?

[Bill Notfaded]

I don't have it yet but I bought Nixie fan's clock from the people selling his 
collection.  It says it takes 9V in the listing... Is this correct or is 12V 
ok?  I don't have the clock in my hands yet but thought I'd ask.  This is the 
same clock Michael modified and made into a Bad Nixie acrylic clock.  This is 
the Peter Hand version.

Thanks all...

Bill

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[neonixie-l] Re: Free giant tube! CX1140LE Thyraton

[martin martin]

I had no idea this would go so fast!
Sorry guys- it's shipping to the southern end of CA.  

Don't fret though-  I'll get more.  It came from a Varian machine - 
oncology clinic

On Saturday, December 14, 2019 at 8:03:44 AM UTC-8, martin martin wrote:
>
> I picked this up at one of my clients.  They were going to toss it.  
> Planned on making a lamp, but gave up
>
> Free to anyone!  
>

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[neonixie-l] Distance on pins for PCB-socket versus solder-lug socket?

[Dekatron42]

Hi all,

I am trying to discern what distance is really necessary for a B27A & B26A 
sockets when they should be made with Nixie-pins on a PCB, the B27A pin 
socket is used for GSA10G and the B26A is used for Burroughs BX-1000 series 
of tubes.

The original PCB mounting socket that I've seen have at least 5 millimeter 
between the pins as they are bent outwards and longer than the standard 
straight Nixie sockets used for PCB mounting. getting the same spacing with 
Nixie pins would require that I bend the Nixie-pins and that would 
complicate things like mounting. The original B26A socket has some 3.17 
millimeter between the outer pins (17 pins (actually 18 but one unfilled 
position) with an 18.2 millimeter diameter) and 3.87 millimeter between the 
inner pins (9 pins with an 11.1 millimeter diameter). The B27A socket has 
an extra pin in the center which is the anode with some 500V on it and that 
sits approximately 5mm from the inner ring with pins. Now I I haven't taken 
into account the solder pad size for these figures so the distance between 
solder pads makes the actual distance shorter, for the Anode on the B27A 
socket I can solder a wire so i wouldn't have to route it between the other 
pins, but for the B26A socket I would like to route the wires between the 
pins making the distance even shorter between solder pads and wires.

The Burroughs tubes has a maximum of 300V between the pins and the GSA10G 
has some 240V between main Anode and a Cathode and some 225V on the 
Auxilliary Anode when running.

Any help is highly appreciated!

/Martin

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[neonixie-l] Nixie look alike Calc for Apple devices

[Paul Andrews]

Very nice. Thanks.

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[neonixie-l] Re: Nixie look alike Calc for Apple devices

['orange_glow_fan' via neonixie-l]

It looks like this will only work on IOS 13.0 and above? (Iphone 6S and 
above)




On Saturday, December 14, 2019 at 10:46:31 PM UTC-5, unb wrote:
>
> Apologies I realise that this in bits and bytes rather than hardware, but 
> if anyone is interested in having a Nixie look on a modern smartphone, I 
> put together a free - non commercial app:  Apple App Store - Nixie 
> Calculator 
> 
>
> I remember my mother bringing home a company calculator back in the day 
> with Nixie display so wanted to recreate at least the look of the tubes on 
> my phone.  Hope you enjoy.
>
> [image: Product Shot Framed Portrait iPhone X.png]
>
>
>

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