Re: [neonixie-l] eBay Paranoia

[threeneurons]

eBay has been doing this now, for about a year and a half. I've had no 
problems, so far. Initially, I didn't understand why they did this, only a 
few years after selling off Paypal. So It seemed kinda stupid. But I think 
it has to do with some legal changes both in the US and in Europe. In the 
US, all online transactions need to include the sales tax of the buyer's 
state. In Europe, they want the VAT collected at time of purchase. When 
eBay took over handling the payments, they take care of both of those. 
Sales tax and VAT get routed directly from the buyer to eBay, and (I 
assume) to the respective government agency. I only get the item's price, 
shipping (that I established), less eBay's fees (~10%). They deposit that 
amount to my bank account, either daily, or weekly, dependent on the 
sellers preference.

I Long ago set up a different bank account, at a whole different bank, just 
for online stuff. That way if either eBay or Paypal get hacked, only this 
"online use" account is exposed. Your SSN is needed, if and when they issue 
1099s.

Of course, all banks now, have an on line presents, so with my luck, my 
main bank gets breached, while the small sum, at the "online use" bank 
stays unaffected.

On Thursday, March 31, 2022 at 1:45:37 PM UTC-7 Pramanicin wrote:

> Etsy sellers have nixies etc on themI quite liked that platform in the 
> beginning, but slowly their commissions grew higher and I gave up using it 
> as a seller.
>
> On Thu, Mar 31, 2022 at 1:30 PM 'Grahame' via neonixie-l <
> neoni...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi
>>
>> So far I've not had a problem with eBay or Paypal but then I think I have 
>> been following their rules when both buying and selling.
>>
>> I tried to open an account to buy through Alibaba house of horrors and 
>> they asked for a photograph of my passport, proof of my home address and a 
>> photo of the credit card I was going to use. I just deleted the email and 
>> all those that followed asking me to pay for the goods in my basket. 
>> Eventually they stopped and I've not tried again.
>>
>> Grahame
>> On 31/03/2022 21:01, Jim KO5V wrote:
>>
>> Good Afternoon,
>>
>> For the last couple of years, I have avoided giving eBay my bank info and 
>> SS #.  I always use PayPal on line, mainly because in my simple mind, 
>> keeping my information in one place, rather than spreading it out all over 
>> the web lowers the odds of having that info stolen. Several years ago,  a 
>> couple of my CC #s were stolen when on-line merchants were hacked, so I am 
>> probably a bit over-sensitive.
>>
>> I guess eBay wants to dump PayPal and "float" the money themselves, so 
>> now I'm no longer allowed to sell unless I give them my bank info and SS# 
>> info. I am not comfortable doing this. I still can buy on eBay with a 
>> credit card (or PP until they get rid of it). My credit cards are protected 
>> by their issuing banks, so if they are compromised. I'm OK.  
>>
>> I'm just curious how other people on this list feel about this 
>> situations. Is there a viable alternative to eBay?
>>
>> BTW, eBay is holding about $7.00 from a sale I made a couple of months 
>> ago, and they won't release it until they have my bank info. I think I'll 
>> let it ride, and see how they handle it.
>>
>> Thanks. Jim
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Re: [neonixie-l] eBay Paranoia

[Nicholas Stock]

Etsy sellers have nixies etc on themI quite liked that platform in the
beginning, but slowly their commissions grew higher and I gave up using it
as a seller.

On Thu, Mar 31, 2022 at 1:30 PM 'Grahame' via neonixie-l <
neonixie-l@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> Hi
>
> So far I've not had a problem with eBay or Paypal but then I think I have
> been following their rules when both buying and selling.
>
> I tried to open an account to buy through Alibaba house of horrors and
> they asked for a photograph of my passport, proof of my home address and a
> photo of the credit card I was going to use. I just deleted the email and
> all those that followed asking me to pay for the goods in my basket.
> Eventually they stopped and I've not tried again.
>
> Grahame
> On 31/03/2022 21:01, Jim KO5V wrote:
>
> Good Afternoon,
>
> For the last couple of years, I have avoided giving eBay my bank info and
> SS #.  I always use PayPal on line, mainly because in my simple mind,
> keeping my information in one place, rather than spreading it out all over
> the web lowers the odds of having that info stolen. Several years ago,  a
> couple of my CC #s were stolen when on-line merchants were hacked, so I am
> probably a bit over-sensitive.
>
> I guess eBay wants to dump PayPal and "float" the money themselves, so now
> I'm no longer allowed to sell unless I give them my bank info and SS# info.
> I am not comfortable doing this. I still can buy on eBay with a credit card
> (or PP until they get rid of it). My credit cards are protected by their
> issuing banks, so if they are compromised. I'm OK.
>
> I'm just curious how other people on this list feel about this situations.
> Is there a viable alternative to eBay?
>
> BTW, eBay is holding about $7.00 from a sale I made a couple of months
> ago, and they won't release it until they have my bank info. I think I'll
> let it ride, and see how they handle it.
>
> Thanks. Jim
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Re: [neonixie-l] eBay Paranoia

['Grahame' via neonixie-l]

Hi

So far I've not had a problem with eBay or Paypal but then I think I 
have been following their rules when both buying and selling.


I tried to open an account to buy through Alibaba house of horrors and 
they asked for a photograph of my passport, proof of my home address and 
a photo of the credit card I was going to use. I just deleted the email 
and all those that followed asking me to pay for the goods in my basket. 
Eventually they stopped and I've not tried again.


Grahame

On 31/03/2022 21:01, Jim KO5V wrote:

Good Afternoon,

For the last couple of years, I have avoided giving eBay my bank info 
and SS #.  I always use PayPal on line, mainly because in my simple 
mind, keeping my information in one place, rather than spreading it 
out all over the web lowers the odds of having that info stolen. 
Several years ago,  a couple of my CC #s were stolen when on-line 
merchants were hacked, so I am probably a bit over-sensitive.


I guess eBay wants to dump PayPal and "float" the money themselves, so 
now I'm no longer allowed to sell unless I give them my bank info and 
SS# info. I am not comfortable doing this. I still can buy on eBay 
with a credit card (or PP until they get rid of it). My credit cards 
are protected by their issuing banks, so if they are compromised. I'm OK.


I'm just curious how other people on this list feel about this 
situations. Is there a viable alternative to eBay?


BTW, eBay is holding about $7.00 from a sale I made a couple of months 
ago, and they won't release it until they have my bank info. I think 
I'll let it ride, and see how they handle it.


Thanks. Jim
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Re: [neonixie-l] eBay Paranoia

[Toby Thain]

On 2022-03-31 4:01 p.m., Jim KO5V wrote:

Good Afternoon,

For the last couple of years, I have avoided giving eBay my bank info 
and SS #.  I always use PayPal on line, mainly because in my simple 
mind, keeping my information in one place, rather than spreading it out 
all over the web lowers the odds of having that info stolen. ...
I'm just curious how other people on this list feel about this 
situations. Is there a viable alternative to eBay?


My 5c:

* Ebay is definitely not MORE evil than PayPal. PayPal was founded and 
presumably still owned by some of the worst people on the planet.


* I've set up banking with ebay as buyer and seller. The only complaint 
that I have as a seller, so far, is that they keep dipping into my bank 
account for fees they could have withheld in the first place. Imho they 
need a "never debit this account" setting even if it delays deposits in 
some cases.


--Toby



BTW, eBay is holding about $7.00 from a sale I made a couple of months 
ago, and they won't release it until they have my bank info. I think 
I'll let it ride, and see how they handle it.


Thanks. Jim

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RE: [neonixie-l] eBay Paranoia

[Jeff Walton]

Unfortunately, the people with the money and website get to make the rules.  
They will push until people start to abandon the platform by charging higher 
commissions and rigid banking rules.  So far, they are still keeping their 
business...Jeff 
 Original message From: Jim KO5V  Date: 
3/31/22  1:01 PM  (GMT-07:00) To: neonixie-l  
Subject: [neonixie-l] eBay Paranoia Good Afternoon,For the last couple of 
years, I have avoided giving eBay my bank info and SS #.  I always use PayPal 
on line, mainly because in my simple mind, keeping my information in one place, 
rather than spreading it out all over the web lowers the odds of having that 
info stolen. Several years ago,  a couple of my CC #s were stolen when on-line 
merchants were hacked, so I am probably a bit over-sensitive.I guess eBay wants 
to dump PayPal and "float" the money themselves, so now I'm no longer allowed 
to sell unless I give them my bank info and SS# info. I am not comfortable 
doing this. I still can buy on eBay with a credit card (or PP until they get 
rid of it). My credit cards are protected by their issuing banks, so if they 
are compromised. I'm OK.  I'm just curious how other people on this list feel 
about this situations. Is there a viable alternative to eBay?BTW, eBay is 
holding about $7.00 from a sale I made a couple of months ago, and they won't 
release it until they have my bank info. I think I'll let it ride, and see how 
they handle it.Thanks. Jim



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[neonixie-l] eBay Paranoia

[Jim KO5V]

Good Afternoon,

For the last couple of years, I have avoided giving eBay my bank info and 
SS #.  I always use PayPal on line, mainly because in my simple mind, 
keeping my information in one place, rather than spreading it out all over 
the web lowers the odds of having that info stolen. Several years ago,  a 
couple of my CC #s were stolen when on-line merchants were hacked, so I am 
probably a bit over-sensitive.

I guess eBay wants to dump PayPal and "float" the money themselves, so now 
I'm no longer allowed to sell unless I give them my bank info and SS# info. 
I am not comfortable doing this. I still can buy on eBay with a credit card 
(or PP until they get rid of it). My credit cards are protected by their 
issuing banks, so if they are compromised. I'm OK.  

I'm just curious how other people on this list feel about this situations. 
Is there a viable alternative to eBay?

BTW, eBay is holding about $7.00 from a sale I made a couple of months ago, 
and they won't release it until they have my bank info. I think I'll let it 
ride, and see how they handle it.

Thanks. Jim

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[neonixie-l] Re: Check this out!

[Terry S]

Love that. I'd have that on my desk for sure.

On Wednesday, March 30, 2022 at 8:14:07 PM UTC-5 martin martin wrote:

> https://hackaday.io/project/184356-tori-nixie-calculator
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