Re: [neonixie-l] Strange eBay listing text.....

[Charles MacDonald]

On 2022-10-05 17:17, Mac Doktor wrote:




I just clicked the eBay photo for a GR10G Nixie listing and now I 
wonder what eBay is up to: https://www.ebay.com/itm/115546867348 
 the title is funny but 
clicking the link "Show original title" shows the correct title.


Classic screw-up on the part of the seller. Just another day on eBay.


More likely e-bay attempting to use AI to be "helpful"  May match the 
number of a CD or something.


I am always looking for Darkroom Equipment made by a German company 
called JOBO.  E-bay assumes that I want to see items called HOBO, or 
BOHO.  a certain HO gauge train car seems to come up regularly. And I 
don't even have a train set.



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Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Auction foolishness

[Nick Andrews]

Thanks.  Yeah, as always some manuals are easy to find, while others remain
elusive...  I'll wait to print the ones I found out at work until I get the
units safely back to San Antonio for evaluation.  My buddy said they look
dirty and have evidence of rodents nearby...

On Wed, Oct 5, 2022 at 5:45 PM gregebert  wrote:

> Congrats on the boat anchors. I got a 5245 a few years ago at a local
> surplus store, cuz it has nixies of course. You can find manuals online. I
> have the 10X prescaler that takes it up past 500Mhz. Amazing this thing
> still works. Just be warned that it will draw energy when plugged-in (even
> while off) to run the crystal oven.
>
> On Wednesday, October 5, 2022 at 3:01:33 PM UTC-7 nickja...@gmail.com
> wrote:
>
>> I...bid on some more junk, I mean stuff, Monday night.  Driving to NM
>> Saturday and will go up to ABQ to pick them up.  Two units, an HP 5245L
>> counter with 5252A and a 5243L with a (maybe) 5262A Time Interval unit.
>> Also a 5214L Preset Counter.  And then a Eldorado Elec 783G Time Interval
>> Counter, which is the only one that had a picture of it plugged in and
>> turned on.  And a whole lot of other crap I shouldn't have bid on!  $300
>> for a pickup load worth.  A NIM bin with the 6V add-on, and another bin
>> without any power supply, about 6 or more modules, and a bunch of other
>> rack-mount HV or pulse power supplies and such. But am most excited about
>> the nixie-display instruments.
>>
>> Anyone know about manuals for the HP 5214L and Eldorado 783G?
>>
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[neonixie-l] Re: Auction foolishness

[gregebert]

Congrats on the boat anchors. I got a 5245 a few years ago at a local 
surplus store, cuz it has nixies of course. You can find manuals online. I 
have the 10X prescaler that takes it up past 500Mhz. Amazing this thing 
still works. Just be warned that it will draw energy when plugged-in (even 
while off) to run the crystal oven.

On Wednesday, October 5, 2022 at 3:01:33 PM UTC-7 nickja...@gmail.com wrote:

> I...bid on some more junk, I mean stuff, Monday night.  Driving to NM 
> Saturday and will go up to ABQ to pick them up.  Two units, an HP 5245L 
> counter with 5252A and a 5243L with a (maybe) 5262A Time Interval unit.  
> Also a 5214L Preset Counter.  And then a Eldorado Elec 783G Time Interval 
> Counter, which is the only one that had a picture of it plugged in and 
> turned on.  And a whole lot of other crap I shouldn't have bid on!  $300 
> for a pickup load worth.  A NIM bin with the 6V add-on, and another bin 
> without any power supply, about 6 or more modules, and a bunch of other 
> rack-mount HV or pulse power supplies and such. But am most excited about 
> the nixie-display instruments.
>
> Anyone know about manuals for the HP 5214L and Eldorado 783G?
>

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[neonixie-l] Auction foolishness

[Nick Andrews]

I...bid on some more junk, I mean stuff, Monday night.  Driving to NM
Saturday and will go up to ABQ to pick them up.  Two units, an HP 5245L
counter with 5252A and a 5243L with a (maybe) 5262A Time Interval unit.
Also a 5214L Preset Counter.  And then a Eldorado Elec 783G Time Interval
Counter, which is the only one that had a picture of it plugged in and
turned on.  And a whole lot of other crap I shouldn't have bid on!  $300
for a pickup load worth.  A NIM bin with the 6V add-on, and another bin
without any power supply, about 6 or more modules, and a bunch of other
rack-mount HV or pulse power supplies and such. But am most excited about
the nixie-display instruments.

Anyone know about manuals for the HP 5214L and Eldorado 783G?

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Re: [neonixie-l] Strange eBay listing text.....

[Mac Doktor]

> On Oct 5, 2022, at 2:54 PM, Dekatron42  wrote:
> 
> I just clicked the eBay photo for a GR10G Nixie listing and now I wonder what 
> eBay is up to: https://www.ebay.com/itm/115546867348 the title is funny but 
> clicking the link "Show original title" shows the correct title.

Classic screw-up on the part of the seller. Just another day on eBay.


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[neonixie-l] Strange eBay listing text.....

[Dekatron42]

I just clicked the eBay photo for a GR10G Nixie listing and now I wonder 
what eBay is up to: https://www.ebay.com/itm/115546867348 the title is 
funny but clicking the link "Show original title" shows the correct 
title.

/Martin

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Re: [neonixie-l] Pandicon

[Dekatron42]

It's multiplexed, simple design example here: 
https://www.radiomuseum.org/tubes/tube_zm1206.html

It's important to adjust the bias voltages properly to limit "bleeding" 
between digits.

/Martin

On Wednesday, 5 October 2022 at 19:50:22 UTC+2 gregebert wrote:

> Is the Pandicon multiplexed, or does it use some kind of clever 
> storage/shifting ?
>
> On Wednesday, October 5, 2022 at 10:12:26 AM UTC-7 Robert wrote:
>
>> [image: image0.jpeg]
>>
>> Thanks
>> Rob
>>
>> On 5 Oct 2022, at 18:09, Audrey  wrote:
>>
>> 
>>
>> I got my hopes up for a different kind of Pandicon but that's a good deal 
>> for some zm1500, there's some on ebay but without the sockets.
>>
>> On Wed, Oct 5, 2022, 1:07 PM artg...@googlemail.com  
>> wrote:
>>
>>> CuriousMarc has just released a video of a calculator repair involving 
>>> eightron 7-segment neon tubes, which he mentions are very rare but fairly 
>>> similar in appearance to Panaplex multi-digit tubes.
>>>
>>> I see that Langrex, a UK surplus supplier specialising in valves has 
>>> somewhat similar Pandicons in reasonable quantity, which may be useful to 
>>> someone.
>>>
>>> https://www.langrex.co.uk/products/zm1500-vintage-12-digit-nixie-display/
>>>
>>> -adrian
>>>  
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Re: [neonixie-l] Nixie Clock - Direct Drive HV5530

[Max Di Noi]

Beautiful, works like a dream! 

I’ll go on and play around with GPS and Motion sensor features.

If you don’t mind, I’ll ping you again for anything quick but I’ll try to 
understand the code myself first.

You did save me a couple of nights going through the code though :)

Thanks so much.

Max


> On 5 Oct 2022, at 06:05, SWISSNIXIE - Jonathan F.  wrote:
> 
> Hi
> 
> If I understand correctly, you need to alter the code in the section 
> "menuItemHandler"
> https://github.com/sgtJohnny/sunix/blob/master/sunix.ino 
>  
> 
> The function calls on line 639 and 654 do set the values to the three tube 
> groups, if you do not have the seconds column, you would have to change this 
> this:
> formatOutput(menu_item, 255, currentVal, 0, 0);  and set the currentVal to 
> the second tube group resulting in formatOutput(menu_item, currentVal, 255,  
> 0, 0); 
> 
> On Tuesday, 4 October 2022 at 01:15:13 UTC+2 flata...@gmail.com 
>  wrote:
> Hi Jonathan,
> 
> I have built this clock and works well. I have however decided to go for a 4 
> digits version instead of 6. I can manually set the time, no issues. But when 
> I go through the parameters menu, I can see the menu number but not the 
> parameter numbers of each menu as the code is displaying those using the 
> second digits which I don’t have.
> 
> I can code in Assembler but I am not very good with Arduino yet. Is there an 
> easy way to modify the code for 4 digits only?
> 
> Any help would be much appreciated.
> 
> https://www.swissnixie.com/sunixs/ 
> 
> Thank you,
> 
> Max
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On 13 Aug 2022, at 22:16, SWISSNIXIE - Jonathan F. > > wrote:
>> 
> 
>> Yes, the code is open source :)
>> 
>> You can download it at the bottom of the page
>> https://www.swissnixie.com/sunixs/ 
>> 
>> 
>> I programmed it in Arduino with the atmeag328, but it should be a good start 
>> to look at the function "setOutputs" in the code, it contains the actual 
>> shifting process.
>> Also it's easier to layout the outputs of the IC and cathode-pins as 
>> "numbered" with the output number unless you are very experienced with the 
>> code.  This allows bitwise operations for creating the variable containing 
>> the value.
>> For example, if your Cathode 0 is connected to output 1, and cathode 9 to 
>> pin 10, you can use a function to shit as a single bit according to the 
>> current digit number. If your digit is 8, you can do " 0x01<<8". If your 
>> cathodes are randomly connected (to make an easy layout) you will need to 
>> implement more code. 
>> 
>> On Saturday, 13 August 2022 at 22:35:13 UTC+2 flata...@gmail.com 
>>  wrote:
>> Jonathan,
>> 
>> I just found this, it's excellent. 
>> 
>> http://swissnixie.com/projects/SUNIX-S/SN_SUNIX_S_R1.2_WTB_SCHEMATIC.png 
>> 
>> 
>> From this post:
>> https://groups.google.com/g/neonixie-l/c/S1oX30hLrmw 
>> 
>> 
>> If the code is open source, I'll just use that otherwise I'll adapt mine to 
>> use hv5530 and hef4104. 
>> 
>> Awesome! 
>> 
>> 
>>  Original message 
>> From: "SWISSNIXIE - Jonathan F." gmail.com > 
>> Date: 13/08/2022 20:51 (GMT+00:00) 
>> To: neonixie-l googlegroups.com > 
>> Subject: Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Nixie Clock - Direct Drive HV5530 
>> 
>> The time to shift out the bits is not critical, the clock rate is as fast as 
>> you implement it, there is only a minimum clock time, but no maximum one.
>> Brightness should be the same as putting the tube pin directly to ground, 
>> the internal resistance of the mosfet in the HV5530 is in the Ohms range, 
>> while your anode resistor will probably will be a few kiloohms, so no 
>> visible issue.
>> 
>> About voltage:
>> The HV5530 is specified for 10.8 to 13.2V, but alot of people seem to use it 
>> with 5V logic and it works. If you want do operate ith with 12V logic, you 
>> need a 12V source and a level shifter. HEF4104 
>> 
>>  could work
>> 
>> 
>> On Saturday, 13 August 2022 at 19:04:21 UTC+2 flata...@ <>gmail.com 
>>  wrote:
>> Thanks.
>> 
>> In terms of nixie brightness, is there any advantage in using serial to 
>> parallel converter+shift register vs multiplexing using high voltage 
>> transistors on anodes and cathodes of the nixies? Other than saving 
>> component and uC pins, of course. 
>> 
>>  Original message 
>> From: Bill Stanley gmail.com > 
>> Date: 13/08/2022 17:32 (GMT+00:00) 
>> To: neonixie-l googlegroups.com > 
>> Subject: [neonixie-l] Re: Nixie Clock - Direct Drive HV5530 
>> 
>> I use that part for my NIXIE, Panaplex and LED 

Re: [neonixie-l] Pandicon

[gregebert]

Is the Pandicon multiplexed, or does it use some kind of clever 
storage/shifting ?

On Wednesday, October 5, 2022 at 10:12:26 AM UTC-7 Robert wrote:

> [image: image0.jpeg]
>
> Thanks
> Rob
>
> On 5 Oct 2022, at 18:09, Audrey  wrote:
>
> 
>
> I got my hopes up for a different kind of Pandicon but that's a good deal 
> for some zm1500, there's some on ebay but without the sockets.
>
> On Wed, Oct 5, 2022, 1:07 PM artg...@googlemail.com  
> wrote:
>
>> CuriousMarc has just released a video of a calculator repair involving 
>> eightron 7-segment neon tubes, which he mentions are very rare but fairly 
>> similar in appearance to Panaplex multi-digit tubes.
>>
>> I see that Langrex, a UK surplus supplier specialising in valves has 
>> somewhat similar Pandicons in reasonable quantity, which may be useful to 
>> someone.
>>
>> https://www.langrex.co.uk/products/zm1500-vintage-12-digit-nixie-display/
>>
>> -adrian
>>  
>>
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Re: [neonixie-l] Pandicon

[Audrey]

I got my hopes up for a different kind of Pandicon but that's a good deal
for some zm1500, there's some on ebay but without the sockets.

On Wed, Oct 5, 2022, 1:07 PM artgod...@googlemail.com 
wrote:

> CuriousMarc has just released a video of a calculator repair involving
> eightron 7-segment neon tubes, which he mentions are very rare but fairly
> similar in appearance to Panaplex multi-digit tubes.
>
> I see that Langrex, a UK surplus supplier specialising in valves has
> somewhat similar Pandicons in reasonable quantity, which may be useful to
> someone.
>
> https://www.langrex.co.uk/products/zm1500-vintage-12-digit-nixie-display/
>
> -adrian
>
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[neonixie-l] Pandicon

[artgod...@googlemail.com]

CuriousMarc has just released a video of a calculator repair involving 
eightron 7-segment neon tubes, which he mentions are very rare but fairly 
similar in appearance to Panaplex multi-digit tubes.

I see that Langrex, a UK surplus supplier specialising in valves has 
somewhat similar Pandicons in reasonable quantity, which may be useful to 
someone.

https://www.langrex.co.uk/products/zm1500-vintage-12-digit-nixie-display/

-adrian
 

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