Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Global Shipping Program disaster, need help

[Luka C]

The only Nixie tubes that I have ordered from the U.S. are B-7971, I think 
all went through GSP, arrived safely and had no problems clearing their 
export control, fingers crossed in case of future orders :)

Dana petak, 8. prosinca 2017. u 09:26:41 UTC+1, korisnik Manuel Azevedo 
napisao je:
>
> As I mentioned in another thread about GSP, they disposed 6 DA-2021 
> numitrons because “they contained mercury”. 
> As someone pointed out, it was maybe the shinny getter on the glass, which 
> might have triggered a “oh my god, mercury” reaction, which made GSP 
> dispose of the tubes, which in this case are real lamps, as numitrons just 
> have glowing filaments, like ordinary light bulbs. 
> I was reimbursed, but I could never find numitrons again at that prce. It 
> was an excellent deal.

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RE: [neonixie-l] Re: Global Shipping Program disaster, need help

[Manuel Azevedo]

As I mentioned in another thread about GSP, they disposed 6 DA-2021 numitrons 
because “they contained mercury”.
As someone pointed out, it was maybe the shinny getter on the glass, which 
might have triggered a “oh my god, mercury” reaction, which made GSP dispose of 
the tubes, which in this case are real lamps, as numitrons just have glowing 
filaments, like ordinary light bulbs.
I was reimbursed, but I could never find numitrons again at that prce. It was 
an excellent deal.

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RE: [neonixie-l] Re: Global Shipping Program disaster, need help

[Bill van Dijk]

In Dutch "lamp" also used to be an acceptable colloquial designation for a 
tube. It was also the regular name for a normal incandescent light bulb.

 

From: neonixie-l@googlegroups.com [mailto:neonixie-l@googlegroups.com] On 
Behalf Of Tomasz Kowalczyk
Sent: Thursday, December 07, 2017 2:56 PM
To: neonixie-l
Subject: [neonixie-l] Re: Global Shipping Program disaster, need help

 

This thing can be easily explained, in Polish and Russian (and I bet  in most 
Slavic languages, too) we use word "lampa"*, which means both electron/gas 
discharge tubes as well as regular lamps. At the same time, word "tube" 
translates to words meaning a pipe (which is never used to describe a electron 
tube). 
So a seller from Slavic nations, who doesn't speak english well and uses google 
translate ends up with "nixie lamp" instead of "nixie tube".

* in Russian it is written in cyryllic, of course, but reads almost identical 
to Polish

W dniu czwartek, 7 grudnia 2017 19:49:59 UTC+1 użytkownik SWISSNIXIE - Jonathan 
F. napisał: 

Alot of tubes are even offered as "Lamp" on ebay... :) 

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Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Global Shipping Program disaster, need help

[jb-electronics]

That's quite the story Jonathan. Let's hope nobody from GSP ever reads 
this ;-)


Cheers
Jens

On 12/7/2017 11:49 AM, SWISSNIXIE - Jonathan F. wrote:
I guess it really depens on alot of factors how they even notice it.  
Also i think its based on the description of the seller. So for 
example if you write "B4998 Burroughs Nixie Tube" it might get 
detected by some sort of matching system. But "small round nixie tube" 
won't match any systems. I don't know what database they use, but some 
nixies / tubes are listed for sure. Speaking about that, some tubes 
have restricted. For example the B-7094 Jumbo tube is technically 
illegal to ship from USA, because its listed as an ITAR (some military 
thing) restricted item,  another example is a non nixie tube the KN-6 
Krytron because it was used in nuclear devices! But for the realism, 
if one can get all the other parts for such a device, i guess its easy 
to manage an export of krytrons!



I don't think they check every content manually because...

My 2nd hobby is radiation science, and once i ordered a tube from US 
which was radioactive, had a big fat icon on the tube box, and it was 
so radioactive you could detect it through the package! Went trough GSP!
Also alot of tubes i orderd came in sealed tube boxes which were never 
opened by GSP


Also it might be dependant on the person working on you package. If 
some guy who never seen radio vacum tube would get your package, how 
could he possible identify the correct item? Alot of tubes are even 
offered as "Lamp" on ebay... :)

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Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Global Shipping Program disaster, need help

[jb-electronics]

Strange, I have never had this issue with Nixie tubes sent via the 
Global Shipping Program.


Cheers
Jens

On 12/7/2017 9:43 AM, GastonP wrote:
Heh, if they just had known that old radios had tubes inside, that 
would have been the fate of this one.


On Wednesday, December 6, 2017 at 7:03:39 AM UTC-3, Oscilloclock wrote:

At least GSP shipped the radio and did not deliberately “safely
dispose” of it because it contained old tubes! (See other posts
about these woes when shipping CRTs)

I now request US sellers to send directly to me by USPS Priority
Mail International (or Express) with insurance and tracking, and
so far it seems okay.

Glad that you got the beautiful radio and all the best for
restoration!

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