Re: [NetBehaviour] distant feeling - resisting speed - you are welcome to join

[Annie Abrahams via NetBehaviour]

Thanks Max,
This seems interesting, maybe useful - I will keep it in mind (free flowing
for now)
Annie

On Sun, Sep 22, 2019 at 9:57 PM Max Herman  wrote:

>
> I like the use of nonrecursion, if that is not too off base.
>
> In neuroscience, the Default Mode Network is interesting.  It's a network
> in each of our brains that kind of "kicks in" during resting state, perhaps
> integrating, perhaps involving mindfulness.  I'm not expert at all but
> gleaned some of this from Olaf Sporns' 2011 "Networks if the Brain" which a
> friend recently recommended to me.
>
> The DMN it was recently learned also may have a role in active state for
> cognition of self and situation of self.
>
> I can't really articulate this very well but I think the art event will so
> look forward to it.
>
> Perhaps this quote from Sporns can help me: "Great progress
> notwithstanding, neuroscience still cannot answer the 'big questions' about
> mind and intelligence.  Consequently, most cognitive scientists continue to
> hold the position that intelligence is fundamentally the work of symbolic
> processing, carried out in rule-based computational architectures whose
> function can be formally described in ways that are entirely independent of
> their physical realization.  If cognition is largely symbolic in nature,
> then its neural substrate is little more than an inconsequential detail,
> revealing nothing that is of essence about the mind.  Naturally, there is
> much controversy on the subject." (Networks of the Brain, page 179.)
>
> The ideas about the DMN are page 176:. "The relationship of task-evoked
> brain activations with resting-state networks has been documented[There
> is] significant overlap between brain regions identified as centrally
> involved in social cognitive processes and the brain's default
> networkThis suggests the idea that the physiological baseline of the
> brain is related to a 'psychological baseline,' a mode of cognition that is
> directed internally rather than being externally driven and that is
> concerned with self and social context."
>
> Page 181: "Cognition is a network phenomenon
> Yet...[parallel distributed processing oriented models'] utility as models
> of actual neural processes was limited since their computational paradigms
> often imposed narrow constraints on the types of network structures and
> dynamics that could be implemented."
>
> To help myself understand and integrate Sporns' ideas, it helps me to
> include Bohm's ideas in "On Dialogue" (1996) about "non-occupation" and
> "interoception of thought," as well as free-flowing non-determinative
> shared information groups.  This recipe then requires that I add James
> Austin's ideas from his 1998 book "Zen and the Brain," which works better
> for me somehow if done via his first book, from 1979, "Chase, Chance, and
> Creativity."  Then to add a final missing compass-point I try to include
> Calvino's "Six Memos fro the Next Millennium" from 1985 which argues on
> page 124 that the novel is a network and the self is a network.
>
> Sorry for missing italics and typos, hand-typing on phone with one thumb.
>
> It helps me to keep the physical copies of the four books mentioned close
> by, like bricks or stones.  Looking around the room, they are in order
> left-to-right and high-to-low Calvino, Austin, Bohm, Sporns; correction,
> Calvino, Bohm, Austin, Sporns.
>
> Somewhat related, I've been trying to think about an undergraduate
> curricular concentration in Network Studies and haven't found much yet.  Is
> anyone doing this in a concerted way, or, anticlimactically, everyone,
> since years ago?  :)
>
>
>
> ------
> *From:* NetBehaviour  on
> behalf of Annie Abrahams via NetBehaviour <
> netbehaviour@lists.netbehaviour.org>
> *Sent:* Saturday, September 21, 2019 6:41 AM
> *To:* NetBehaviour for networked distributed creativity <
> netbehaviour@lists.netbehaviour.org>
> *Cc:* Annie Abrahams 
> *Subject:* Re: [NetBehaviour] distant feeling - resisting speed - you are
> welcome to join
>
> no Ruth people online won't hear the sound file at all
> only people in Malte in realspace will hear it while watching the people
> online busy distanced feeling and resisting speed
>
> afterwards we will make a video out of the screenrecording and the
> audiofile
>
>
>
>
> On Sat, Sep 21, 2019 at 12:47 PM Ruth Catlow via NetBehaviour <
> netbehaviour@lists.netbehaviour.org> wrote:
>
> Annie,
> Does this mean that those people who join online will hear the sound file
> in the room in Malta?
> Beautiful recursion!

Re: [NetBehaviour] distant feeling - resisting speed - you are welcome to join

[Max Herman via NetBehaviour]

I like the use of nonrecursion, if that is not too off base.

In neuroscience, the Default Mode Network is interesting.  It's a network in 
each of our brains that kind of "kicks in" during resting state, perhaps 
integrating, perhaps involving mindfulness.  I'm not expert at all but gleaned 
some of this from Olaf Sporns' 2011 "Networks if the Brain" which a friend 
recently recommended to me.

The DMN it was recently learned also may have a role in active state for 
cognition of self and situation of self.

I can't really articulate this very well but I think the art event will so look 
forward to it.

Perhaps this quote from Sporns can help me: "Great progress notwithstanding, 
neuroscience still cannot answer the 'big questions' about mind and 
intelligence.  Consequently, most cognitive scientists continue to hold the 
position that intelligence is fundamentally the work of symbolic processing, 
carried out in rule-based computational architectures whose function can be 
formally described in ways that are entirely independent of their physical 
realization.  If cognition is largely symbolic in nature, then its neural 
substrate is little more than an inconsequential detail, revealing nothing that 
is of essence about the mind.  Naturally, there is much controversy on the 
subject." (Networks of the Brain, page 179.)

The ideas about the DMN are page 176:. "The relationship of task-evoked brain 
activations with resting-state networks has been documented[There is] 
significant overlap between brain regions identified as centrally involved in 
social cognitive processes and the brain's default networkThis suggests the 
idea that the physiological baseline of the brain is related to a 
'psychological baseline,' a mode of cognition that is directed internally 
rather than being externally driven and that is concerned with self and social 
context."

Page 181: "Cognition is a network phenomenon
Yet...[parallel distributed processing oriented models'] utility as models of 
actual neural processes was limited since their computational paradigms often 
imposed narrow constraints on the types of network structures and dynamics that 
could be implemented."

To help myself understand and integrate Sporns' ideas, it helps me to include 
Bohm's ideas in "On Dialogue" (1996) about "non-occupation" and "interoception 
of thought," as well as free-flowing non-determinative shared information 
groups.  This recipe then requires that I add James Austin's ideas from his 
1998 book "Zen and the Brain," which works better for me somehow if done via 
his first book, from 1979, "Chase, Chance, and Creativity."  Then to add a 
final missing compass-point I try to include Calvino's "Six Memos fro the Next 
Millennium" from 1985 which argues on page 124 that the novel is a network and 
the self is a network.

Sorry for missing italics and typos, hand-typing on phone with one thumb.

It helps me to keep the physical copies of the four books mentioned close by, 
like bricks or stones.  Looking around the room, they are in order 
left-to-right and high-to-low Calvino, Austin, Bohm, Sporns; correction, 
Calvino, Bohm, Austin, Sporns.

Somewhat related, I've been trying to think about an undergraduate curricular 
concentration in Network Studies and haven't found much yet.  Is anyone doing 
this in a concerted way, or, anticlimactically, everyone, since years ago?  :)




From: NetBehaviour  on behalf of 
Annie Abrahams via NetBehaviour 
Sent: Saturday, September 21, 2019 6:41 AM
To: NetBehaviour for networked distributed creativity 

Cc: Annie Abrahams 
Subject: Re: [NetBehaviour] distant feeling - resisting speed - you are welcome 
to join

no Ruth people online won't hear the sound file at all
only people in Malte in realspace will hear it while watching the people online 
busy distanced feeling and resisting speed

afterwards we will make a video out of the screenrecording and the audiofile




On Sat, Sep 21, 2019 at 12:47 PM Ruth Catlow via NetBehaviour 
mailto:netbehaviour@lists.netbehaviour.org>>
 wrote:
Annie,
Does this mean that those people who join online will hear the sound file in 
the room in Malta?
Beautiful recursion!
:)

On Fri, Sep 20, 2019 at 2:26 PM Annie Abrahams via NetBehaviour 
mailto:netbehaviour@lists.netbehaviour.org>>
 wrote:
Next Thursday 26/09 2019 at 18h30 Paris time you are welcome to join us for a 
session of distanced feeling.

[https://gallery.mailchimp.com/df438fe97aa473451e815cd07/images/cb3e6a03-6246-485f-a2c3-b4c96247b26d.jpg]

Distant FeelingS a series of online webcam meetings trying to experience each 
other’s presence eyes closed and no talking.
Distant FeelingS an ever-changing re-enactment of our intra-action with 
machines.
Distant FeelingS creates an online communality while resisting the speed of 
daily live and

Re: [NetBehaviour] distant feeling - resisting speed - you are welcome to join

[Annie Abrahams via NetBehaviour]

no Ruth people online won't hear the sound file at all
only people in Malte in realspace will hear it while watching the people
online busy distanced feeling and resisting speed

afterwards we will make a video out of the screenrecording and the audiofile




On Sat, Sep 21, 2019 at 12:47 PM Ruth Catlow via NetBehaviour <
netbehaviour@lists.netbehaviour.org> wrote:

> Annie,
> Does this mean that those people who join online will hear the sound file
> in the room in Malta?
> Beautiful recursion!
> :)
>
> On Fri, Sep 20, 2019 at 2:26 PM Annie Abrahams via NetBehaviour <
> netbehaviour@lists.netbehaviour.org> wrote:
>
>> Next *Thursday 26/09 2019 at 18h30 Paris time* you are welcome to join
>> us for a session of distanced feeling.
>>
>> Distant FeelingS a series of online webcam meetings trying to experience
>> each other’s presence *eyes closed and no talking*.
>> Distant FeelingS an ever-changing re-enactment of our intra-action with
>> machines.
>> Distant FeelingS creates an online communality while resisting the speed
>> of daily live and producing uninteresting data for AI?
>> You need to install the zoom 
>> application on your device and on the 26th connect at 6:25 pm Paris time to
>> meeting no *3210554238. *
>> At t=0 we set a clock and close our eyes.
>>
>> *Distant FeelingS #6* will be projected live during the opening
>> ceremonies of Video Vortex
>>  Malta.
>> The session will last 15 min.
>> In Malta there will be one onstage participant. During the session the
>> audience in Malta will hear a soundfile: a textcollection of past
>> participant reactions spoken by *Ruth Catlow* and
>>
>> *Marc Garrett. It would be lovely to feel some of you online next
>> Thursday.*
>> (btw online there is no soundfile - we will publish it later together
>> with the recording of the session)
>>
>> "Looking" forward
>> Annie
>>
>> ps:
>> *Articles*:
>> *Preconditions for Online Participation
>> *
>> for PAIC (2018)
>> *Learn together what it means to be connected*
>> 
>> my chapter in *Cyposium the Book* (2014) and
>> *Trapped to Reveal - On webcam mediated communication and Collaboration
>> *
>> (2012) published in JAR #2
>> now all three on academia.
>>
>> *Sound:*
>> ConstallationsOuverture
>>  for
>> Radio Play #7. Played live online Sunday 25 Aug. 7pm UTC+01 2019 via
>> channingtatum.
>> Mixage: Annie Abrahams.
>> Voices: Annie Abrahams, Alix Desaubliaux, Pascale Barret.
>> Laughs: Alice Lenay, Gwendoline Samidoust, Alix Desaubliaux, Annie
>> Abrahams and Carin Klonowski.
>> Music: "Ouverture 14" by Jan de Weille.
>>
>>
>> More photos
>> 
>> by Peter Westenberg of the ConstallationS event at ISELP
>>  Brussels last Mai.
>>
>> *Upcoming 12/10* Performance *XD,^_^,:3,:-D*, Annie Abrahams, Pascale
>> Barret, Alix Desaubliaux, Alice Lenay, Carin Klonowski et Gwendoline
>> Samidoust. *10/10 14h30 CDN*. Table ronde. *Entre virtuel et incarné,
>> quelles innovations sociales et écologiques ? *
>> 7-12/10 festival Magdalena Montpellier
>> 
>> .
>>
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Distant FeelingS #6 * Thursday 26/09 18h30*,
Video Vortex
,
Valletta, Malta. Duration 15 min. Online. Open to all. With 

Re: [NetBehaviour] distant feeling - resisting speed - you are welcome to join

[Ruth Catlow via NetBehaviour]

Annie,
Does this mean that those people who join online will hear the sound file
in the room in Malta?
Beautiful recursion!
:)

On Fri, Sep 20, 2019 at 2:26 PM Annie Abrahams via NetBehaviour <
netbehaviour@lists.netbehaviour.org> wrote:

> Next *Thursday 26/09 2019 at 18h30 Paris time* you are welcome to join us
> for a session of distanced feeling.
>
> Distant FeelingS a series of online webcam meetings trying to experience
> each other’s presence *eyes closed and no talking*.
> Distant FeelingS an ever-changing re-enactment of our intra-action with
> machines.
> Distant FeelingS creates an online communality while resisting the speed
> of daily live and producing uninteresting data for AI?
> You need to install the zoom 
> application on your device and on the 26th connect at 6:25 pm Paris time to
> meeting no *3210554238. *
> At t=0 we set a clock and close our eyes.
>
> *Distant FeelingS #6* will be projected live during the opening
> ceremonies of Video Vortex
>  Malta.
> The session will last 15 min.
> In Malta there will be one onstage participant. During the session the
> audience in Malta will hear a soundfile: a textcollection of past
> participant reactions spoken by *Ruth Catlow* and
>
> *Marc Garrett. It would be lovely to feel some of you online next
> Thursday.*
> (btw online there is no soundfile - we will publish it later together with
> the recording of the session)
>
> "Looking" forward
> Annie
>
> ps:
> *Articles*:
> *Preconditions for Online Participation
> *
> for PAIC (2018)
> *Learn together what it means to be connected*
> 
> my chapter in *Cyposium the Book* (2014) and
> *Trapped to Reveal - On webcam mediated communication and Collaboration
> *
> (2012) published in JAR #2
> now all three on academia.
>
> *Sound:*
> ConstallationsOuverture
>  for Radio
> Play #7. Played live online Sunday 25 Aug. 7pm UTC+01 2019 via
> channingtatum.
> Mixage: Annie Abrahams.
> Voices: Annie Abrahams, Alix Desaubliaux, Pascale Barret.
> Laughs: Alice Lenay, Gwendoline Samidoust, Alix Desaubliaux, Annie
> Abrahams and Carin Klonowski.
> Music: "Ouverture 14" by Jan de Weille.
>
>
> More photos
> 
> by Peter Westenberg of the ConstallationS event at ISELP
>  Brussels last Mai.
>
> *Upcoming 12/10* Performance *XD,^_^,:3,:-D*, Annie Abrahams, Pascale
> Barret, Alix Desaubliaux, Alice Lenay, Carin Klonowski et Gwendoline
> Samidoust. *10/10 14h30 CDN*. Table ronde. *Entre virtuel et incarné,
> quelles innovations sociales et écologiques ? *
> 7-12/10 festival Magdalena Montpellier
> 
> .
>
> ___
> NetBehaviour mailing list
> NetBehaviour@lists.netbehaviour.org
> https://lists.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour
>


-- 
Co-founder & Artistic director of Furtherfield & DECAL Decentralised Arts
Lab
+44 (0) 77370 02879

*Furtherfield *disrupts and democratises art and technology through
exhibitions,
labs & debate, for deep exploration, open tools & free thinking.
furtherfield.org 

*DECAL* Decentralised Arts Lab is an arts, blockchain & web 3.0 technologies
research hub

for fairer, more dynamic & connected cultural ecologies & economies now.

decal.is 

Furtherfield is a Not-for-Profit Company limited by Guarantee
registered in England and Wales under the Company No.7005205.
Registered business address: Ballard Newman, Apex House, Grand Arcade,
Tally Ho Corner, London N12 0EH.
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[NetBehaviour] distant feeling - resisting speed - you are welcome to join

[Annie Abrahams via NetBehaviour]

Next *Thursday 26/09 2019 at 18h30 Paris time* you are welcome to join us
for a session of distanced feeling.

Distant FeelingS a series of online webcam meetings trying to experience
each other’s presence *eyes closed and no talking*.
Distant FeelingS an ever-changing re-enactment of our intra-action with
machines.
Distant FeelingS creates an online communality while resisting the speed of
daily live and producing uninteresting data for AI?
You need to install the zoom 
application on your device and on the 26th connect at 6:25 pm Paris time to
meeting no *3210554238. *
At t=0 we set a clock and close our eyes.

*Distant FeelingS #6* will be projected live during the opening ceremonies
of Video Vortex 
Malta.
The session will last 15 min.
In Malta there will be one onstage participant. During the session the
audience in Malta will hear a soundfile: a textcollection of past
participant reactions spoken by *Ruth Catlow* and

*Marc Garrett. It would be lovely to feel some of you online next Thursday.*
(btw online there is no soundfile - we will publish it later together with
the recording of the session)

"Looking" forward
Annie

ps:
*Articles*:
*Preconditions for Online Participation
*
for PAIC (2018)
*Learn together what it means to be connected*

my chapter in *Cyposium the Book* (2014) and
*Trapped to Reveal - On webcam mediated communication and Collaboration
*
(2012) published in JAR #2
now all three on academia.

*Sound:*
ConstallationsOuverture
 for Radio
Play #7. Played live online Sunday 25 Aug. 7pm UTC+01 2019 via
channingtatum.
Mixage: Annie Abrahams.
Voices: Annie Abrahams, Alix Desaubliaux, Pascale Barret.
Laughs: Alice Lenay, Gwendoline Samidoust, Alix Desaubliaux, Annie Abrahams
and Carin Klonowski.
Music: "Ouverture 14" by Jan de Weille.


More photos

by Peter Westenberg of the ConstallationS event at ISELP
 Brussels last Mai.

*Upcoming 12/10* Performance *XD,^_^,:3,:-D*, Annie Abrahams, Pascale
Barret, Alix Desaubliaux, Alice Lenay, Carin Klonowski et Gwendoline
Samidoust. *10/10 14h30 CDN*. Table ronde. *Entre virtuel et incarné,
quelles innovations sociales et écologiques ? *
7-12/10 festival Magdalena Montpellier

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