Re: [NetBehaviour] on lying

2013-03-30 Thread bob catchpole

c...@lab404.com wrote Saturday, 30 March 2013:


Here is a short thing I wrote on lying:
http://www.terminalapsu.org/2013/03/30/on-lying/

Curt, 


You're in very good company...

Art is a lie that makes us realize truth, at least the truth that is given us 
to understand. The artist must know the manner whereby to convince others of 
the truthfulness of his lies. If he only shows in his work that he has 
searched, and researched, for the way to put over lies, he would never 
accomplish anything. (Pablo Picasso)

The moment you cheat for the sake of beauty, you know you're an artist. (Max 
Jacob)

If the quote of Picasso is true, does a better liar make a better artist? (Les 
Ducak)

Cinema is the most beautiful fraud in the world. (Jean-Luc Godard)

He who knows a thousand works of art knows a thousand frauds. (Horace)

What is acting but lying and what is good acting but convincing lying? (Sir 
Laurence Olivier)

Lying, the telling of beautiful untrue things, is the proper aim of art. (Oscar 
Wilde)

Everything that deceives may be said to enchant. (Plato)

I mean, all art in some ways is a lie. It looks like a picture of something, 
but it isn't that thing, it's a representation of that thing... (Michael 
Kimmelman)

The bird of truth would not be able to fly if it weren't for the air of lies we 
breathe. (Eugene J. Martin)

One who deceives will always find those who allow themselves to be deceived. 
(Niccolo Machiavelli)

Fake is as old as the Eden tree. (Orson Welles)

Bob





 From: c...@lab404.com c...@lab404.com
To: netbehaviour@netbehaviour.org 
Sent: Saturday, 30 March 2013, 22:16
Subject: [NetBehaviour] on lying
 
Hi y'all,

Here is a short thing I wrote on lying:
http://www.terminalapsu.org/2013/03/30/on-lying/

Best,
Curt
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Re: [NetBehaviour] on lying

2013-03-30 Thread manik
...Lying belong to ethic area. Our director Emir Kusturica few days ago 
announce his new film about Kosovo Shiptars  / West prefer to call them 
''Albanians from Kosovo'' ... it's  bullshit like calling Croat - Serbs from 
Croatia (!) /and  crime they made by taking organs from live people, mostly 
Serbs and Romans,  and sold them abroad. In that short interview he said 
that Hollywood didn't make good film about ex Yugoslavia civil war because 
they based those films on lye ( films with R.Gere, A.Jolie ... for example 
... and several other less important). That's how art and lie make 
controversial, but very often political incorrect 'cooperation', or 
propaganda. Actually, lye in art is only arbitrary attempt to tell something 
about what's happened in past time no metter is story based on fact or on 
personal 'imagination'. Is there anybody who believe in every fact from 
story about Robin Hood? ... MANIK ... MARCH ... 2013 ...
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From: c...@lab404.com
To: netbehaviour@netbehaviour.org
Sent: Saturday, March 30, 2013 11:16 PM
Subject: [NetBehaviour] on lying


Hi y'all,

Here is a short thing I wrote on lying:
http://www.terminalapsu.org/2013/03/30/on-lying/

Best,
Curt
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