Re: Recurrent disk activity every minute

2017-06-10 Thread Mayuresh
On Sat, Jun 10, 2017 at 07:17:10PM -, Michael van Elst wrote:
> If the load cycle count increases, then the hard drive is probably
> configured for power saving. This is a bad choice for a disk with
> read-write mounted filesystems. NetBSD doesn't configure the drive
> by itself, but the BIOS may.
> 
> If the load cycle does not increase, maybe the start/stop count or
> the number of calibration retries does?
> 
> The NetBSD atactl command can read SMART data, you don't need smartmontools
> just for that.

Thanks for introducing me to atactl. The Load Cycle Count does keep
increasing. I read it's the disk manufacturer's choice and many users are
annoyed by this.

I'll also check out bios, but I think there was nothing to control this
when I struggled with this before.

Mayuresh


Re: Recurrent disk activity every minute

2017-06-10 Thread Michael van Elst
mayur...@acm.org (Mayuresh) writes:

>In a couple of laptops in last 2 years I faced this problem (irrespective
>of OS):

>The disk makes a recurrent noise, I guess, of the head being parked nearly
>every 1 minute, unless of course it's busy with some disk heavy activity
>like compilation.

If the load cycle count increases, then the hard drive is probably
configured for power saving. This is a bad choice for a disk with
read-write mounted filesystems. NetBSD doesn't configure the drive
by itself, but the BIOS may.

If the load cycle does not increase, maybe the start/stop count or
the number of calibration retries does?

The NetBSD atactl command can read SMART data, you don't need smartmontools
just for that.

-- 
-- 
Michael van Elst
Internet: mlel...@serpens.de
"A potential Snark may lurk in every tree."


Re: Recurrent disk activity every minute

2017-06-10 Thread Leonardo Taccari
Hello Mayuresh,

Mayuresh writes:
> [...]
> Is there any way to override this behavior of the drive in NetBSD?
> 
> Would apm or sysutils/smartmontools be of help?
> [...]

No idea if that will increase/decrease disk life span but I think
that `atactl  setidle 0' and/or `atactl  setstandby 0'
is what you're looking for!


Re: Recurrent disk activity every minute

2017-06-10 Thread Mayuresh
On Sun, Jun 11, 2017 at 12:18:58AM +0530, Mayuresh wrote:
> The issue was also discussed in debian maling list and may provide useful
> insights:
> https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2015/06/msg01029.html

BTW, on debian, after trying a lot of suggestions I ended up writing a job
that would invoke smartctl -a on the drive every 30s to keep it from
parking the head every 1 minute.

Mayuresh.


Recurrent disk activity every minute

2017-06-10 Thread Mayuresh
In a couple of laptops in last 2 years I faced this problem (irrespective
of OS):

The disk makes a recurrent noise, I guess, of the head being parked nearly
every 1 minute, unless of course it's busy with some disk heavy activity
like compilation.

Wonder, being a mechanical movement, it may reduce the life span of the
hard drive.

Is there any way to override this behavior of the drive in NetBSD?

Would apm or sysutils/smartmontools be of help?

The issue was also discussed in debian maling list and may provide useful
insights:
https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2015/06/msg01029.html

Mayuresh.


cryfs on NetBSD

2017-06-10 Thread Mayuresh
While searching for alternatives for encfs (have a separate thread in
pkgsrc list) came across "cryfs" and found only a wikipedia page saying
that NetBSD actually supports it.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_disk_encryption_software#Operating_systems

Is this information (that NetBSD supports cryfs) accurate on wikipedia?
I did not find any documentation or filesystems/ package related to cryfs.

Mayuresh


Re: firefox audio: what works oss or alsa

2017-06-10 Thread Mayuresh
On Sat, Jun 10, 2017 at 09:05:46PM +0530, Mayuresh wrote:
> Is oss likely to work than alsa? I am not considering pulseaudio unless
> that is the only workable option.

Rebuilt with oss. Works fine now.

Mayuresh


firefox audio: what works oss or alsa

2017-06-10 Thread Mayuresh
I have built firefox 52.0.1 using pkgsrc 2017Q1 on 8.0 BETA i386.

I am able to play videos, such as youtube, but no audio.

Audio is otherwise working fine with mpv.

When building firefox I had enabled alsa, and disabled oss and pulseaudio.

Is oss likely to work than alsa? I am not considering pulseaudio unless
that is the only workable option.

Mayuresh


Re: 8.0 BETA i386: mplayer: text relocations error

2017-06-10 Thread Mayuresh
On Sat, Jun 10, 2017 at 03:00:06PM +, co...@sdf.org wrote:
> on mpv it might nto pick the best audio output method by default.
> you can choose which to use with e.g. --vo=xv

Yes, that worked, thanks! I do not have graphics hardware.

The video is somehow not as smooth moving as it was say with mplayer, but
that was on Linux. May have to do with the OS rather than the application.

I liked mpv. Keystrokes are largely compatible with mplayer, that helps
getting used to. However OSD (on screen display) did not work for me.

Does OSD work for you?

Mayuresh.


Re: 8.0 BETA i386: mplayer: text relocations error

2017-06-10 Thread coypu
Hi,


on mpv it might nto pick the best audio output method by default.
you can choose which to use with e.g. --vo=xv

If you have intel graphics, getting vaapi may be good (hardware
decoding).

I seem to recall the mplayer failure is something in ffmpeg that is
i386 specific. I will try to reproduce.


Re: 8.0 BETA i386: mplayer: text relocations error

2017-06-10 Thread Mayuresh
On Sat, Jun 10, 2017 at 03:58:41PM +0200, Jan Danielsson wrote:
>mplayer hasn't worked on NetBSD for a long time for me.  I went over
> to mpv and haven't looked back.  mpv works flawlessly on NetBSD.

Thanks. Audio works great for me now. Are you able to use it for videos
also? Video is too slow for me with mpv. (Even sd video.)

Any specific options (compileation time/run time) to be enabled? I tried
sdl, sdl2, which didn't solve the slow video problem.

Mayuresh.


Re: 8.0 BETA i386: mplayer: text relocations error

2017-06-10 Thread Jan Danielsson
On 06/10/17 15:48, Mayuresh wrote:
[---]
> Is this workable around or are there alternative media players that would
> work better with NetBSD?

   mplayer hasn't worked on NetBSD for a long time for me.  I went over
to mpv and haven't looked back.  mpv works flawlessly on NetBSD.

-- 
Kind regards,
Jan Danielsson



8.0 BETA i386: mplayer: text relocations error

2017-06-10 Thread Mayuresh
Trying to get mplayer work on NetBSD 8.0 BETA i386.

Get the following error:

  mplayer: text relocations
  mplayer: Cannot write-enable text segment: Permission denied


Sounds like mplayer does something nasty that NetBSD doesn't like?

Is this workable around or are there alternative media players that would
work better with NetBSD?

Mayuresh.


Re: 8.0 BETA Freezes when configuring run0

2017-06-10 Thread coypu
It's fixed by the opencrypto changes but they were not pulled up to -8.
I have seen it too.