Re: Net neutrality changes?

2017-12-15 Thread Niels Dettenbach (d^b)
Am 15. Dezember 2017 14:22:00 MEZ schrieb Andy Ruhl :
>I'm wondering if anyone has seen any changes since the net neutrality
>vote?
...
>The one I can connect to from the internet is my own. My ISP has a
>statement that I read as "nothing will change" in regards to net
>neutrality.

This is "true" for most of typical end users products - but not for higher 
class ones requiring more reliability etc.. And the resulting quality change 
(loss) over time for such users are not a result of changings in their "parts" 
of the access and gateway networks.

Additional: "net neutrality" was still not consequently implemented on many 
levels of many Internet and access networks, as many ISPs still do want to make 
their products less good then before and loose customers to others which are 
not so far with their implementation. 

But the last is only a question of time and peoples vs competitors complaining 
officially against "antineutral" scenarios they find and can prove...

The net worked perfectly since decades by self regulatory without any 
governmental intrusion for (so called) "net neutrality" in the last monthes. 
This was a product by naive political peoples without and knowledge about the 
real structures of the net and bis immune systems...


just my two...


niels.
niels.

https://www.syndicat.com



Net neutrality changes?

2017-12-15 Thread Andy Ruhl
I'm wondering if anyone has seen any changes since the net neutrality vote?

I have 3 routers on "the internet" (home ISPs) in a trangle using
IPSEC and tunnels. I can no longer ping or connect to 2 of them.

The one I can connect to from the internet is my own. My ISP has a
statement that I read as "nothing will change" in regards to net
neutrality. The other 2 ISPs have no statements. And I can't connect
to the routers I have on their networks.

I'm hoping this is just some coincedence and I'm being paranoid...

Andy