Re: fpr(1), asa(1)

2019-01-08 Thread David Brownlee
On Sun, 6 Jan 2019 at 11:53, Rhialto  wrote:
>
> I have various files around with carriage control. You get them from 
> emulators/hercules, for instance. So at the very least they should be 
> packaged.

IIRC OpenBSD refactored the code a long time back to make one of them
provide both implementations, so if we do not move them to pkgsrc we
could at least trivially have them both built from the same code :)
(I'd also support moving them to pkgsrc)

David


Re: fpr(1), asa(1)

2019-01-06 Thread Rhialto
I have various files around with carriage control. You get them from 
emulators/hercules, for instance. So at the very least they should be packaged.

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Re: fpr(1), asa(1)

2019-01-05 Thread roarde
On Sat, 5 Jan 2019 18:31:48 +
co...@sdf.org wrote:

> POSIX at least seems to say,
> 
> Issue 6
> 
> This utility is marked as part of the FORTRAN Runtime Utilities option.
> 
> So perhaps that counts as optional now.

Quoting from Issue 7, in regard to all things so marked:

[FR] [Option Start] FORTRAN Runtime Utilities [Option End]
The functionality described is optional.

I assume NetBSD isn't claiming support for FORTRAN Runtime Utilities
-- 
roarde


Re: fpr(1), asa(1)

2019-01-05 Thread John Nemeth
On Jan 5,  5:10pm, Christos Zoulas wrote:
} In article <20190105120103.ga21...@sdf.org>,   wrote:
} >
} >these programs are relics intended for running old fortran on old
} >machines.
} >fortran carriage-control is no longer a thing as of fortran 2008.
} >netbsd no longer ships other fortran components.
} >
} >I'd like to remove them both.
} >Certainly fpr does not make sense as asa is the more standard one.
} 
} Should have already been removed when we deleted f77 :-)

 Why.  They can certainly be used standalone.  And, they are
very small:

server: {55} ls -agl /usr/bin/{asa,fpr}
-r-xr-xr-x  1 root  wheel   9544 Mar 11  2017 /usr/bin/asa*
-r-xr-xr-x  1 root  wheel  14067 Mar 11  2017 /usr/bin/fpr*

Thinking about it, I'm quite that I have files that use fortran
printing control.  If pr(1) had a fortran printing option, I would
be more inclined to say okay.  But, I looked and alas it doesn't.
Given that these can be useful on their own, then if somebody really
wants to delete them, then they should be packaged.  Of course,
given how small they are, there are likely much more important
targets.

}-- End of excerpt from Christos Zoulas


Re: fpr(1), asa(1)

2019-01-05 Thread Alistair Crooks
Last time I proposed this, I was told asa (at least) was mandated by POSIX

On Sat, 5 Jan 2019 at 04:01,  wrote:

> Hi folks,
>
> these programs are relics intended for running old fortran on old
> machines.
> fortran carriage-control is no longer a thing as of fortran 2008.
> netbsd no longer ships other fortran components.
>
> I'd like to remove them both.
> Certainly fpr does not make sense as asa is the more standard one.
>
> Thoughts?
>
>


Re: fpr(1), asa(1)

2019-01-05 Thread coypu
POSIX at least seems to say,

Issue 6

This utility is marked as part of the FORTRAN Runtime Utilities option.

So perhaps that counts as optional now.


Re: fpr(1), asa(1)

2019-01-05 Thread Christos Zoulas
In article <20190105120103.ga21...@sdf.org>,   wrote:
>Hi folks,
>
>these programs are relics intended for running old fortran on old
>machines.
>fortran carriage-control is no longer a thing as of fortran 2008.
>netbsd no longer ships other fortran components.
>
>I'd like to remove them both.
>Certainly fpr does not make sense as asa is the more standard one.
>

Should have already been removed when we deleted f77 :-)

christos