Re: RISC OS Javascript support
On Sat, Dec 15, 2012 at 06:41:14PM +, Chris Gransden wrote: In article 20121215171742.gh15...@kyllikki.org, Vincent Sanders vi...@netsurf-browser.org wrote: Please can you send a patch? even if its just the files you changed I can work up a suitable patch from those, whatevers easiest. Steve already beat me to it. Those changes are working. good to know How do we disable JIT? I used your recipie to build spidermonkey as a template. Even with --disable-tracejit passed to configure METHOD JIT is still enabled (toolchain build has the patches and Makefile used[1] (in the sdk directory)). If I turn that off too (--disable-methodjit) the library fails to build, perhaps I am missing something? I would like to try and debug where the later version of spidermonkey fails as it is such a huge improvement in functionality going forwards. I think the JIT is built if ARM is detected. Setting WTF_CPU_ARM_TRADITIONAL 0 in Platform.h and '-DENABLE_ASSEMBLER=0 -DENABLE_JIT=0' stops it building the JIT. might try this today though I have run out of time for messing with toolchain stuff right now. I can build 1.7 temporarily, but this is not really solving the issue at all and will (from past experience) almost certianly lead to RISC OS being stuck there forever. In future I do wish to move onto editions of spidermonkey past 1.8.5 (3 years old) which provide improved perfomance and functionality so limiting myself to version 1.7 (which is over five years old now, think firefox 2 era) seems counterproductive. I thought it would be useful for getting people to test stuff now. I spent a few hours on this yestarday. The 1.7.0 download [1] is not autoconf and I was unable to persuade it to cross compile with our toolchain let alone with the nspr. If you have a recipie that would be great... Chris. [1] http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/js/js-1.7.0.tar.gz -- Regards Vincent http://www.kyllikki.org/
Re: Javascript and Fonts
On Sun, 16 Dec 2012 11:11:57 GMT, Gavin Wraith wrote: So how do I flush the RUfl cache, and get it to start over when I am trying out a new set of fonts? *delete scrap$dir.scrapdirs.scrapdir.RUfl_cache (that's possibly out-of-date, but I don't think it has changed) Chris
Re: Javascript and Fonts
Peter Young wrote Looks more complete on linux raspberry Pi Chromium Chromium browser. On RISC OS the accented characters appear as hex couplets. It's all Greek here (and Greek to me!) on an ARMini, RISC OS 5.19. Perhaps you don't have the necessary font? Probably:-( I have DoulosSIL which I thought was a comprehensive Unicode font. But among other things, it does not appear to have a glyph for: Greek Small Letter Iota with acute accent U+03AF What font are you using? -- John - http://mug.riscos.org/
Re: Javascript and Fonts
In message c66cfdfe52.iyoj...@rickman.argonet.co.uk you wrote: Peter Young wrote Looks more complete on linux raspberry Pi Chromium Chromium browser. On RISC OS the accented characters appear as hex couplets. It's all Greek here (and Greek to me!) on an ARMini, RISC OS 5.19. Perhaps you don't have the necessary font? Probably:-( I have DoulosSIL which I thought was a comprehensive Unicode font. But among other things, it does not appear to have a glyph for: Greek Small Letter Iota with acute accent U+03AF What font are you using? That is part of what I am trying to find out! I have not added any fonts to the Raspberry Pi RISC OS distro so I presume it is one of the new fonts it provides in !Fonts. Maybe FreeMono, FreeSans, . I tried altering the names of some of these, to see if I could get RUfl to make different choices of font - after all there are probably masses of installed fonts for NetSurf to choose from when it is asked to display a particular glyph - but, when I rebooted, NetSurf bottled out with an error message about not being able to initialize the Unicode fonts. My problems concern \pi and \mu being rendered bold. It would be nice if RUfl_cache held its data in text form. Then a) we could read it to see which font was being used for which glyph, and b) we could edit it to get some control over how NetSurf shows text. Or at least, I presume so. Glad to be corrected if I have this upside down, by somebody knows how RUfl works. -- Gavin Wraith (ga...@wra1th.plus.com) Home page: http://www.wra1th.plus.com/
Re: RISC OS Javascript support
On Sun, 16 Dec 2012 13:45:46 +, Vincent Sanders wrote: 1.7 doesn't need NSPR I must have misunderstood what teh DIST variable points at then? but thats perfectly possible ;-) IIRC it needs NSPR if you build it as threaded, but you don't need to do that. well I would be very interested in a diff against the distribution archive anyway. If I can get the NetSurf toolchain package building spidermonkey for your platform we can get the CI builds (and by extension future release builds) to generate output with JavaScript support for your platform Attached. Chris js17.diff.gz Description: Binary data makefile.os4-lib.gz Description: Binary data
Re: Javascript and Fonts
On 16 Dec 2012 John Rickman Iyonix rick...@argonet.co.uk wrote: Peter Young wrote Looks more complete on linux raspberry Pi Chromium Chromium browser. On RISC OS the accented characters appear as hex couplets. It's all Greek here (and Greek to me!) on an ARMini, RISC OS 5.19. Perhaps you don't have the necessary font? Probably:-( I have DoulosSIL which I thought was a comprehensive Unicode font. But among other things, it does not appear to have a glyph for: Greek Small Letter Iota with acute accent U+03AF What font are you using? I'm using Cyberbit here, It's a freeware TTF font that I converted to RISC OS format using !TTF2f, which app as far as I remember ran on my late Iyo; it certainly runs on this ARMini. From my hazy memory, DoulosSIL mainly deals with diacritics of languages like Czech, though this might be my mistake. I don't think it's a full Unicode font, anyway. Cyberbit has omissions, where occasionally characters appear as hex couplets, but is pretty wide-ranging. With best wishes, Peter. -- Peter Young (zfc Ta) and family Prestbury, Cheltenham, Glos. GL52, England http://pnyoung.orpheusweb.co.uk pnyo...@ormail.co.uk
Re: RISC OS Javascript support
OK, the CI system just built #740 with a spidermonkey 1.8.5 library with the JIT disabled as suggested by Chris Gransden. Can this be tried by someone with access to RISC OS? and please be aware this may well behave very badly indeed. If this fails I have now successfully built 1.7.0 for RISC OS (though not run tested) so the possibility of using an older known working version exists. Please remember to enable javascript via the nice shiny new configuration interface Steve Fryatt has provided. -- Regards Vincent http://www.kyllikki.org/
Re: RISC OS Javascript support
In article 20121216154023.gl15...@kyllikki.org, Vincent Sanders vi...@netsurf-browser.org wrote: OK, the CI system just built #740 with a spidermonkey 1.8.5 library with the JIT disabled as suggested by Chris Gransden. Can this be tried by someone with access to RISC OS? and please be aware this may well behave very badly indeed. It get stuck in a infinite loop as soon as a web page is opened. Alt-break is the only way to quit. Chris.
Re: RISC OS Javascript support
On 16 Dec 2012 Vincent Sanders vi...@netsurf-browser.org wrote: OK, the CI system just built #740 with a spidermonkey 1.8.5 library with the JIT disabled as suggested by Chris Gransden. Can this be tried by someone with access to RISC OS? and please be aware this may well behave very badly indeed. If this fails I have now successfully built 1.7.0 for RISC OS (though not run tested) so the possibility of using an older known working version exists. Please remember to enable javascript via the nice shiny new configuration interface Steve Fryatt has provided. Just downloaded this build; ARMini, RISC OS 5.19, (16 May 2012). Mixed results, but not helped much because I don't really know what I'm looking for!. All my usual pages seem to work OK: www.groups.google.com/ looks as if it's repeatedly trying to load and failing; this worked with previous builds. http://www.mssociety.org.uk/near-me/branches/cheltenham-and-north-cotswold-branch (sorry, should be all one line) still doesn't format as it does in Windows Firefox; the About us and Contact should be two separate tabs; no idea if this is a JavaScript thing. http://www.metcheck.com/UK/today.asp?zipcode=GL52%203DS is still missing a lot of detail compared with Firefox, and the Conf icons down the right hand side deliver only a part of their content. Like many others I'm very grateful that JavaScript is being worked on, but I think there's still a way to go. If testing by an ignoramus is worth it, please suggest to me some other sites to try. With best wishes, Peter. -- Peter Young (zfc Ta) and family Prestbury, Cheltenham, Glos. GL52, England http://pnyoung.orpheusweb.co.uk pnyo...@ormail.co.uk
Re: RISC OS Javascript support
Chris Gransden wrote In article 20121216154023.gl15...@kyllikki.org, Vincent Sanders vi...@netsurf-browser.org wrote: OK, the CI system just built #740 with a spidermonkey 1.8.5 library with the JIT disabled as suggested by Chris Gransden. Can this be tried by someone with access to RISC OS? and please be aware this may well behave very badly indeed. It get stuck in a infinite loop as soon as a web page is opened. Alt-break is the only way to quit. Similar results on Iyonix 5.19. Does get as far as putting icon on icon bar. -- John - http://mug.riscos.org/
Re: Javascript and Fonts
In message 550806ff52.pnyo...@pnyoung.ormail.co.uk you wrote: What font are you using? Experimentation has indicated that it is the Exo font on the Rpi which is causing overheavy /Delta and /pi glyphs. My only problem now is getting rid of the overheavy /mu. Apart from that Greek text is rendered quite elegantly, diacritics and all, but finding which fonts are responsible will need further work. I am getting the same display on Rpi and Iyonix, which have different fonts installed, so I can probably rule out the fonts that do not appear on both. -- Gavin Wraith (ga...@wra1th.plus.com) Home page: http://www.wra1th.plus.com/
Re: RISC OS Javascript support
OK, the CI system just built #740 Bad news - loops on Iyonix, needs alt-break to stop. That's odd. 740 has been happily running here in Iyonix (5.18) since I downloaded it earlier. -- John Harrison Website http://jaharrison.me.uk
Re: Javascript and Fonts
In message 44d50eff52.wra...@wra1th.plus.com you wrote: In message 550806ff52.pnyo...@pnyoung.ormail.co.uk you wrote: What font are you using? Experimentation has indicated that it is the Exo font on the Rpi which is causing overheavy /Delta and /pi glyphs. My only problem now is getting rid of the overheavy /mu. Apart from that Greek text is rendered quite elegantly, diacritics and all, but finding which fonts are responsible will need further work. I am getting the same display on Rpi and Iyonix, which have different fonts installed, so I can probably rule out the fonts that do not appear on both. I have now removed _all_ the fonts from SDFS::RISCOSpi.$.!Boot.Resources.!Fonts apart from System, but the page http://www.perseus.tufts.edu/hopper/text?doc=Perseus%3Atext%3A1999.01.0173%3Atext%3DSym. is still rendered OK by NetSurf with all the Greek text fine apart for the bold /mu problem. Can I take it that this has to be a fault with the fonts Corpus, Homerton and Trinity in Resources:$.Fonts somewhere? I must say, I did not know that these had been extended to unicode. Pity about the wrong style /mu if this is in the official Rpi distro. -- Gavin Wraith (ga...@wra1th.plus.com) Home page: http://www.wra1th.plus.com/
Re: Javascript and Fonts
In article 9c2713ff52.wra...@wra1th.plus.com, Gavin Wraith ga...@wra1th.plus.com wrote: bold /mu problem. Can I take it that this has to be a fault with the fonts Corpus, Homerton and Trinity in Resources:$.Fonts somewhere? I must say, I did not know that these had been extended to unicode. Pity about the wrong style /mu if this is in the official Rpi distro. You can change the defauilt font faces in the NetSurf configuration. Then you can try different fonts easily. Chris.
Re: RISC OS Javascript support
On 16 Dec 2012 John Harrison j...@jaharrison.me.uk wrote: OK, the CI system just built #740 Bad news - loops on Iyonix, needs alt-break to stop. That's odd. 740 has been happily running here in Iyonix (5.18) since I downloaded it earlier. Presumably it matters which home page one is using. I use http:/m.bbc.co.uk/home/desktop as suggested elsethread. I've certainly seen the failure to load that people report on google groups, but that doesn't lock the machine. ARMini, RISC OS 5.19 With best wishes, Peter. -- Peter Young (zfc Ta) and family Prestbury, Cheltenham, Glos. GL52, England http://pnyoung.orpheusweb.co.uk pnyo...@ormail.co.uk
Unicode on local pages
With NetSurf #739. If I browse http://www.perseus.tufts.edu/hopper/text?doc=Perseus%3Atext%3A1999.01.0173%3Atext%3DSym. it displays OK. If I save or do a full save of the page, and then browse the resulting local page the Greek text displays as garbage. Why is there a difference? -- Gavin Wraith (ga...@wra1th.plus.com) Home page: http://www.wra1th.plus.com/
Re: Unicode on local pages
NetSurf 3 #739 Altering fonts using the Fonts dialog in Choices.. from the iconbar seems to have no effect on unicode text. -- Gavin Wraith (ga...@wra1th.plus.com) Home page: http://www.wra1th.plus.com/
Re: RISC OS Javascript support
In article 20121216161324.gm15...@kyllikki.org, Vincent Sanders vi...@netsurf-browser.org wrote: On Sun, Dec 16, 2012 at 04:07:25PM +, Chris Gransden wrote: In article 20121216154023.gl15...@kyllikki.org, Vincent Sanders vi...@netsurf-browser.org wrote: OK, the CI system just built #740 with a spidermonkey 1.8.5 library with the JIT disabled as suggested by Chris Gransden. Can this be tried by someone with access to RISC OS? and please be aware this may well behave very badly indeed. It get stuck in a infinite loop as soon as a web page is opened. Alt-break is the only way to quit. bother, oh well. any posibility of a log to maybe debug it? anyway I will sort out switching to the 1.7.0 build for now. I've been doing all my testing on a pandaboard which it locks up with. I tried it on a Raspberry Pi and it seems to be running stable so far. The NetSurf JavaScript tests all seem to be working as before. I ran the jsapi-tests program on the Raspberry Pi. Here's the output in case its useful. This locks up on the Pandaboard. *jsapi-tests selfTest_globalHasNoParent TEST-PASS | selfTest_globalHasNoParent | ok selfTest_NaNsAreSame TEST-PASS | selfTest_NaNsAreSame | ok testBug604087 TEST-PASS | testBug604087 | ok testClassGetter_isCalled TEST-PASS | testClassGetter_isCalled | ok test_cloneScript TEST-PASS | test_cloneScript | ok testDerivedValues testConservativeGC.cpp:77:CHECK failed: !memcmp(ch, expected, sizeof(expected)) TEST-UNEXPECTED-FAIL | testDerivedValues | CHECK failed: !memcmp(ch, expected, sizeof(expected)) testConservativeGC Chris.
Re: RISC OS Javascript support
In message 52ff11edd1j...@jaharrison.me.uk John Harrison j...@jaharrison.me.uk wrote: OK, the CI system just built #740 Bad news - loops on Iyonix, needs alt-break to stop. That's odd. 740 has been happily running here in Iyonix (5.18) since I downloaded it earlier. Yes, for me too. Dave FREE ONLINE PHOTOSHARING - Share your photos online with your friends and family! Visit http://www.inbox.com/photosharing to find out more!
Re: RISC OS Javascript support
ok last try for now, ci #744 is built with spidermonkey 1.7.0 maybe it works maybe it doesn't. Please also remember to use the json tagged downloads if you want to try with javascript as the jsoff ones do not even have teh interpreter linked. -- Regards Vincent http://www.kyllikki.org/
Re: RISC OS Javascript support
On 16 Dec, Dave Higton wrote in message f77c24ff52.davem...@my.inbox.com: In message 20121216154023.gl15...@kyllikki.org Vincent Sanders vi...@netsurf-browser.org wrote: OK, the CI system just built #740 with a spidermonkey 1.8.5 library with the JIT disabled as suggested by Chris Gransden. Can this be tried by someone with access to RISC OS? and please be aware this may well behave very badly indeed. If this fails I have now successfully built 1.7.0 for RISC OS (though not run tested) so the possibility of using an older known working version exists. Please remember to enable javascript via the nice shiny new configuration interface Steve Fryatt has provided. The configuration interface in my 740 is different from the shiny new one in Steve's picture. It will do: that wasn't my picture. Chris G did the version in the picture, but then never submitted his changes to the source. I did my version separately, but didn't commit it until after the screenshot was posted (because I was still wrestling with Git). The sense of our switches is different, too, as I went for the disable logic of the rest of the Content Blocking box but Chris went for enable. It does have a Disable Javascript item - but the effect doesn't appear to be stored; the item always comes up as disabled when NS starts. Are you using a build which contains JS? It works fine in a json build, but in a jsoff version it gets saved (look in the Choices) file, then lost on loading. However, I suspect that it's getting loaded and then overwritten to false by the dummy js_initialise() in javascript/none.c (which presumably isn't an issue in a build that actually contains JavaScript). You can see what choices are getting loaded underneath the RISC OS GUI by browsing to about:config and looking at the settings. As an aside, string display on that screen probably wants to entity-ise any 's and 's (and possibly other stuff too): it doesn't handle Choices$Write.WWW... in the RISC OS settings very cleverly at the moment! -- Steve Fryatt - Leeds, England http://www.stevefryatt.org.uk/
Invoices in eBay
And another little bit of functionality ebbs from eBay The 'send invoice to buyer' page has stopped working, presumably due to JavaScript issues, although the actual form appears exactly as it did before and the links (Send invoice/Preview invoice) still work; the difference is that attempting to click on either from Netsurf now invariably results in a 'Page not responding' error :-( So far as I can see all that the actual JavaScript here is doing is stuff like checking the number of remaining characters (the function that tends to make typing anything into Firefox forms like swimming through treacle...) or adding an optional extra row to the table, but evidently I'm missing something. It's very annoying when people break things that were working quite happily before. :-( (Especially as doing it via Firefox is *painful*.) -- Harriet Bazley == Loyaulte me lie == A chicken is an egg's way of producing more eggs.
Re: Unicode on local pages
On 16 Dec 2012 John Rickman Iyonix rick...@argonet.co.uk wrote: Brian Howlett wrote On 16 Dec, Gavin Wraith wrote: With NetSurf #739. If I browse http://www.perseus.tufts.edu/hopper/text?doc=Perseus%3Atext%3A1999.01. 0173%3Atext%3DSym. it displays OK. If I save or do a full save of the page, and then browse the resulting local page the Greek text displays as garbage. Why is there a difference? All I get from that page after the header is We're sorry, but we were unable to find a document matching your query. Iyonix, RISC OS 5.18 and NS #743. Brian - the link is split over two lines in the Messenger mail editor. I copied it out to StrongED and clicked on it as one line ok. Only if you include the full stop at the end of that URL. I originally got the We're sorry... message, as I assumed that a URL didn't usually have a full stop at the end of it! With best wishes, Peter. -- Peter Young (zfc Ta) and family Prestbury, Cheltenham, Glos. GL52, England http://pnyoung.orpheusweb.co.uk pnyo...@ormail.co.uk
Re: RISC OS Javascript support
In message out-50ce32df.md-1.4.17.chris.yo...@unsatisfactorysoftware.co.uk Chris Young chris.yo...@unsatisfactorysoftware.co.uk wrote: On Sun, 16 Dec 2012 20:36:36 GMT, Dave Higton wrote: Is there any simple bit of HTML+JS that we can use to verify that JS is working to /any/ extent? Try this: http://javatester.org/javascript.html It will clearly say whether JavaScript is enabled, and if it is working you'll see the user agent string underneath (NetSurf/3.0 etc) Chris Thanks for that link, on my Raspberry Pi I get your web browser supports JavaScript 2.2 -- Kev Wells http://riscos.kevsoft.co.uk/ http://kevsoft.co.uk/ http://kevsoft.co.uk/AleQuest/ ICQ 238580561 O it's Thin red line of 'eroes, when the drums begin to roll.
Re: RISC OS Javascript support
This is all *far* beyond my technical understanding and abilities, but let me say I am *very* grateful for all this work which makes RISC OS so much more useful. Merry Christmas! Michael Bell --
