Re: Build 5293 on Atari

[Peter Slegg]

On Mon, 24 May 2021 21:06:10 , Michael Drake  wrote:
> On Sun, 23 May 2021, 13:10 Peter Slegg,  wrote:
>
> >
> > >
> > > Date: Sat, 22 May 2021 12:35:02 + (GMT)
> > > From: Peter Slegg 
> > > Subject: Build 5293 on Atari
> > > To: 
> > > Message-ID: <0013ad5a.04251490b...@smtp.freeola.net>
> > >
> > > I just updated to 5293 and while it doens't crash it never displays
> > > the local page that I had opened.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Peter
> > >
> >
>
> Does it work with the latest build?
>

Hi,

I've just installed 5295 and that is working again.



Thanks,


Peter


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Re: Build 5293 on Atari

[Peter Slegg]

>
> Date: Sat, 22 May 2021 12:35:02 + (GMT)
> From: Peter Slegg 
> Subject: Build 5293 on Atari
> To: 
> Message-ID: <0013ad5a.04251490b...@smtp.freeola.net>
>
> I just updated to 5293 and while it doens't crash it never displays
> the local page that I had opened.
>
>
>
> Peter
>


I tried 5289 and that works.

I gather 5290 crashes but I will try it anyway.

Peter


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Build 5293 on Atari

[Peter Slegg]

I just updated to 5293 and while it doens't crash it never displays
the local page that I had opened.



Peter



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Re: Atari build 5032: cache folder

[Peter Slegg]

On Wed, 25 Mar 2020 22:14:52 , Vincent Sanders  
wrote:
> On Sat, Feb 29, 2020 at 10:33:10PM +0000, Peter Slegg wrote:
> >
> > I have just installed the Atari test build 5032 and it throws an error.
> >
> > NetSurf failed to initialise
> >
> >
> > I switched the binary back to a previous build but that failed as
> > well. Investigation showed that the cache folder had gone.
> >
> > I re-created it and the older version runs again but 5032 deletes it.
> >
> >
> > Peter
>
> I beleive I have fixed this now. The code for atari_mkdir_all() was
> using the wrong directory separator (i.e. / instead of \)
>
> Let me know if that fixes the problem as I cannot test myself
>
>


Hi,

I quickly tried the non-working build from an ext2 partition but that
didn't work either.

However build 5049 has fixed it.

Many thanks.

Peter

Re: Atari build 5032: cache folder

[Peter Slegg]

On Mon, 9 Mar 2020 19:54:06 , Peter Slegg  wrote:
> Hi Vido,
>
> From a quick look at the commit, I think if there is any issue
> with the cache it deletes it.
>
> http://git.netsurf-browser.org/netsurf.git/commit/?id=14286b381b12034140768800c7ba10baa7c3b334
>
> I suspect it cannot create it again for some reason.
>
> Peter
>

I have a vague memory of a similar issue several years ago in the
Atari build. A file or folder that was not created when needed.
It had to be created manually.

Could this be a general problem with the way Netsurf creates files
or folders in the Atari build ?

Peter

Re: Atari build 5032: cache folder

[Peter Slegg]

Yes I tried 5033 as well, same problem.

Like I said, IF there is a problem with the cache it deletes the
folder and then doesn't re-create it.

Experiment:
Delete/Move your cache folder and create a new, empty one.
Start Netsurf.

I reckon it will throw an error and not start.


Peter



On Tue, 10 Mar 2020 14:35:40 , Uros Vidovic  wrote:
> Hi Peter,
>
> Did you try 5033 build? In my case cache is not deleted.
> As I understand in your case NetSurf just throws an error and then it runs
> so you can surf the web?
>
> Vido
>
>
> V V pon., 9. mar. 2020 ob 20:54 je oseba Peter Slegg <
> psl...@scubadivers.co.uk> napisala:
>
> > Hi Vido,
> >
> > From a quick look at the commit, I think if there is any issue
> > with the cache it deletes it.
> >
> >
> > http://git.netsurf-browser.org/netsurf.git/commit/?id=14286b381b12034140768800c7ba10baa7c3b334
> >
> > I suspect it cannot create it again for some reason.
> >
> > Peter
> >
> >
> > On Mon, 9 Mar 2020 20:03:08 , Uros Vidovic  wrote:
> > > On my FireBee build 5033 is running.
> > > Cache folder is present. But I get some other error on the console which
> > I
> > > dont remember right now.
> > > But NetSurf is running fine.
> > >
> > > Vido
> > >
> > >
> > > V V sob., 7. mar. 2020 ob 18:06 je oseba Peter Slegg <
> > > psl...@scubadivers.co.uk> napisala:
> > >
> > > > On Sat, 29 Feb 2020 22:33:10 , Peter Slegg 
> > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > I have just installed the Atari test build 5032 and it throws an
> > error.
> > > > >
> > > > > NetSurf failed to initialise
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > I switched the binary back to a previous build but that failed as
> > > > > well. Investigation showed that the cache folder had gone.
> > > > >
> > > > > I re-created it and the older version runs again but 5032 deletes it.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Peter
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > I see there was a change on the 24th Feb that can delete the cache
> > > > but it looks like the Atari version doesn't re-create it.
> > > >
> > > > Peter
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>

Re: Atari build 5032: cache folder

[Peter Slegg]

Hi Vido,

>From a quick look at the commit, I think if there is any issue
with the cache it deletes it.

http://git.netsurf-browser.org/netsurf.git/commit/?id=14286b381b12034140768800c7ba10baa7c3b334

I suspect it cannot create it again for some reason.

Peter


On Mon, 9 Mar 2020 20:03:08 , Uros Vidovic  wrote:
> On my FireBee build 5033 is running.
> Cache folder is present. But I get some other error on the console which I
> dont remember right now.
> But NetSurf is running fine.
>
> Vido
>
>
> V V sob., 7. mar. 2020 ob 18:06 je oseba Peter Slegg <
> psl...@scubadivers.co.uk> napisala:
>
> > On Sat, 29 Feb 2020 22:33:10 , Peter Slegg 
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > I have just installed the Atari test build 5032 and it throws an error.
> > >
> > > NetSurf failed to initialise
> > >
> > >
> > > I switched the binary back to a previous build but that failed as
> > > well. Investigation showed that the cache folder had gone.
> > >
> > > I re-created it and the older version runs again but 5032 deletes it.
> > >
> > >
> > > Peter
> > >
> >
> > I see there was a change on the 24th Feb that can delete the cache
> > but it looks like the Atari version doesn't re-create it.
> >
> > Peter
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>

Re: Atari build 5032: cache folder

[Peter Slegg]

On Sat, 29 Feb 2020 22:33:10 , Peter Slegg  wrote:
>
> I have just installed the Atari test build 5032 and it throws an error.
>
> NetSurf failed to initialise
>
>
> I switched the binary back to a previous build but that failed as
> well. Investigation showed that the cache folder had gone.
>
> I re-created it and the older version runs again but 5032 deletes it.
>
>
> Peter
>

I see there was a change on the 24th Feb that can delete the cache
but it looks like the Atari version doesn't re-create it.

Peter

Atari build 5032: cache folder

[Peter Slegg]

I have just installed the Atari test build 5032 and it throws an error.

NetSurf failed to initialise


I switched the binary back to a previous build but that failed as
well. Investigation showed that the cache folder had gone.

I re-created it and the older version runs again but 5032 deletes it.


Peter

Re: Please test webp image format

[Peter Slegg]

>
> > So far we've only tested on Linux. Please could users of other
> > platforms visit https://developers.google.com/speed/webp/gallery1


Struggling to test this with Atari build 4950 because 9 times
out of 10 it says:

FetchErrorTitle

An error occurred when connecting to developers.google.com

Failure when receiving data from the peer


Peter

Re: Please test webp image format

[Peter Slegg]

Date: Sat, 7 Dec 2019 23:48:22 + (GMT)
From: Peter Slegg 
Subject: Re: Please test webp image format
To: 
Message-ID: <00771621.0419b4904...@smtp.freeola.net>
On , netsurf-users-requ...@netsurf-browser.org wrote:
>>
>> https://developers.google.com/speed/webp/gallery1
>>
>
>Atari build 4946. The link to the fire breathing page shows an
>image without any reversed colours.
>
>
>Peter


I should correct myself.

The jpeg image is being shown but the webp image is not shown at all.
I did a check with firefox (the webp image quality is terrible).


Peter

Re: Please test webp image format

[Peter Slegg]

On , netsurf-users-requ...@netsurf-browser.org wrote:
> Date: Sat, 7 Dec 2019 13:49:50 +
> From: Michael Drake 
> Subject: Please test webp image format
> To: netsurf-users@netsurf-browser.org
> Message-ID: <514e111f-108b-c4aa-b35b-081f9544d...@codethink.co.uk>
> Hello,
>
> Recently we added the webp library to our SDK. NetSurf Builds from
> our CI should now have webp support.
>
> So far we've only tested on Linux. Please could users of other
> platforms visit
>
> https://developers.google.com/speed/webp/gallery1
>
> and let us know if it's working?
>
>
> The CI builds are available from here:
>
> https://ci.netsurf-browser.org/builds/
>
> Cheers,
>
> Michael
>


Atari build 4946. The link to the fire breathing page shows an
image without any reversed colours.


Peter

Re: "Warning from Netsurf: Unknown"

[Peter Slegg]

On , netsurf-users-requ...@netsurf-browser.org wrote:
> Date: Mon, 04 Nov 2019 13:40:25 + (GMT)
> From: "Richard Torrens (lists)" 
> Subject: Re: "Warning from Netsurf:  Unknown"
> To: netsurf-users@netsurf-browser.org
> Message-ID: <580da9eeabli...@torrens.org>
> In article <20191104112318.oax3l5xs43fqr...@kyllikki.org>,
>Vincent Sanders  wrote:
> > I have changed how all network errors are reported to be a proper
> > error page instead of a popup. please can those affected (using CI
> > builds) confirm that the new behaviour is more informative and works
> > for them.
>
> Nice one!
>
> Yes, the error "Couldn't resolve host name" is reported nicely.
>

I was worried that these error pages might be very slow on an
Atari (68060) but they aren't.

Although "FetchErrorTitle" is a little confusing:

-
FetchErrorTitle

An error occurred when connecting to www.45jgf945hf0.omv

Couldn't resolve host name
-


Peter

Re: Atari CI builds

[Peter Slegg]

I can report that the Atari CI builds are working nicely again.

A big thanks to the guys on atari-forum.org and all the Netsurf
developers and contributors.


Peter





> Date: Wed, 27 Mar 2019 21:38:06 + (GMT)
> From: Peter Slegg 
> Subject: Atari CI builds
> To: 
> Message-ID: <0018c12b.030014903...@smtp.freeola.net>
>
>
> Are the Atari CI builds still working ?
>
> The last one was 19th Feb.
>
> https://ci.netsurf-browser.org/builds/atari/
>
>
> Peter
>

Re: Atari CI builds

[Peter Slegg]

Hi all,

Does anyone know what is happening with the Atari CI builds ?

Peter



On Wed, 27 Mar 2019 21:38:06 , Peter Slegg  wrote:
>
>
> Are the Atari CI builds still working ?
>
> The last one was 19th Feb.
>
> https://ci.netsurf-browser.org/builds/atari/
>
>
> Peter
>
>

Atari CI builds

[Peter Slegg]

Are the Atari CI builds still working ?

The last one was 19th Feb.

https://ci.netsurf-browser.org/builds/atari/


Peter

Text colour

[Peter Slegg]

Hi,

https://newsspaceflight.com/news-from-space-tech-expo/

This page mostly show black text on a black background.
Atari build 4350. Is it the same in other ports ?


Peter

Re: URL crashes Netsurf

[Peter Slegg]

> Date: Sat, 14 Apr 2018 16:10:42 +0100
> From: Peter Young 
> Subject: Re: URL crashes Netsurf
> To: netsurf-users@netsurf-browser.org
> Message-ID: 
> On 14 Apr 2018  Brian  wrote:
>
> > In article <56e87f0c06bbai...@argonet.co.uk>, Brian
> >  wrote:
> >> In article <56e81c01ccli...@torrens.org>, Richard Torrens (lists)
> >> wrote:
> >>> This URL
>
> >>> www.siemens-home.bsh-group.com/uk
>
> >>> causes Netsurf to totally crash on the ARMX6 with 5.23 (18-Feb-18).
>
> >>> The crash is total, no log file, Alt-Brk does nothing. Ctrl-Brk does
> >>> do a reset.
>
> >>> Does it happen to anyone else?
>
> >> No, not here. VRPC 4.02.
>
> > Well, it does now!
>
> Not here, 4.02 on VRPC
>
> Best wishes,
>
> Peter (in sunny Valencia!).
>
>

It's ok on Atari build 4321.

Peter

Re: Backyard Worlds

[Peter Slegg]

In the log I can see this but I don't know if it is the cause of the failure:


* Hostname blog.backyardworlds.org was found in DNS cache
*   Trying 192.0.78.12...
* TCP_NODELAY set
(21.395000) frontends/atari/gui.c:142 atari_poll: WM: 30

(21.395001) content/fetchers/curl.c:1162 fetch_curl_poll: Curl file descriptor 
states (maxfd=10):
(21.395002) content/fetchers/curl.c:1181 fetch_curl_poll:   fd 10:  write
* Connected to blog.backyardworlds.org (192.0.78.12) port 443 (#2)
* ALPN, offering http/1.1
* Cipher selection: ALL:!EXPORT:!EXPORT40:!EXPORT56:!aNULL:!LOW:!RC4:@STRENGTH
* successfully set certificate verify locations:
*   CAfile: ./res/cabundle
  CApath: ./res/certs
(25.42) content/fetchers/curl.c:1162 fetch_curl_poll: Curl file descriptor 
states (maxfd=10):
(25.43) content/fetchers/curl.c:1181 fetch_curl_poll:   fd 10: read
(25.415000) content/fetchers/curl.c:1162 fetch_curl_poll: Curl file descriptor 
states (maxfd=10):
(25.415001) content/fetchers/curl.c:1181 fetch_curl_poll:   fd 10: read
(25.415006) content/fetchers/curl.c:1162 fetch_curl_poll: Curl file descriptor 
states (maxfd=10):
(25.415007) content/fetchers/curl.c:1181 fetch_curl_poll:   fd 10: read
(25.43) content/fetchers/curl.c:1162 fetch_curl_poll: Curl file descriptor 
states (maxfd=10):
(25.430001) content/fetchers/curl.c:1181 fetch_curl_poll:   fd 10: read
* error:1407743E:SSL routines:SSL23_GET_SERVER_HELLO:tlsv1 alert inappropriate 
fallback
* Closing connection 2
(28.345000) content/fetchers/curl.c:1052 fetch_curl_done: done 
https://blog.backyardworlds.org/2018/02/14/we-love-you-and-happy-anniversary/
(28.345001) content/fetchers/curl.c:1097 fetch_curl_done: Unknown cURL response 
code 35
(28.35) content/fetchers/curl.c:811 fetch_curl_stop: fetch 0x1ab0b14, url 
'https://blog.backyardworlds.org/2018/02/14/we-love-you-and-happy-anniversary/'
(30.140001) content/fetchers/curl.c:1162 fetch_curl_poll: Curl file descriptor 
states (maxfd=-1):
(30.145000) frontends/atari/rootwin.c:108 handle_event: WM_REDRAW
(30.145001) frontends/atari/gui.c:142 atari_poll: WM: 20

Re: Backyard Worlds

[Peter Slegg]

>Message: 4
>Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2018 22:42:02 GMT
>From: Richard Porter <r...@minijem.plus.com>
>Subject: Re: Backyard Worlds
>To: <netsurf-users@netsurf-browser.org>
>Message-ID: <f18c72ca56.r...@user.minijem.plus.com>
>On 14 Feb 2018 Peter Slegg  wrote:
>
>> Netsurf isn't able to open this link:
>
>> https://blog.backyardworlds.org/2018/02/14/we-love-you-and-happy-anniversary/
>
>> It just says "Unable to fetch document" after ~20s.
>
>> In choices I have:
>
>> curl_fetch_timeout:180
>
>Works here on #4303 (RO 5.23). Probably a DNS glitch or server down.

No. It's repeatable and I was able to open it with another browser.

Ole had a look and said the page causes a lot of individual requests
and suggested lowering the maximum concurrent fetchers?

I lowered it to 10 but it is still the same.

I will see if I can log something more helpful.


Peter

Backyard Worlds

[Peter Slegg]

Netsurf isn't able to open this link:

https://blog.backyardworlds.org/2018/02/14/we-love-you-and-happy-anniversary/

It just says "Unable to fetch document" after ~20s.

In choices I have:

curl_fetch_timeout:180


In can open it in Cab without difficulty.

Peter

Survey form

[Peter Slegg]

Hi,

I was sent a survey form to fill in.

1a is a mandatory question but it is not being rendered in Netsurf.
(Atari 4258).

This is the  section:

  

  1a. Your main 
vehicle fuel?


  Petrol
  Diesel
  LPG
  Hybrid
  Plug in Hybrid
  Other

  

I don't know if this is bad html or a NS issue but it seems to be the
fb_cond_applied  that causes it not to display.


Peter

Re: Experimental treeview search feature

[Peter Slegg]

> Message: 1
> Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2017 23:29:47 +0100
> From: Michael Drake 
> Subject: Re: Experimental treeview search feature
> To: netsurf-users@netsurf-browser.org
> Message-ID: <8e933e3d-f507-99c8-2fec-26a5ca310...@netsurf-browser.org>
> Hello,
>
> An experimental search feature has been added to the following:
>
>1. Hotlist viewer (bookmarks)
>2. Global history viewer
>3. Cookie manager window
>
> To use it, click in the area next to the search icon at the top
> of the window, and start typing.
>
> It has currently only been tried under the GTK front end.
>
> It would be helpful if people could put it thoroughly through its
> paces.  Any feedback gratefully received.
>
> Cheers,

I just tried it in Atari build and it works fine.

Thanks,

Peter

Re: Unable to Fetch document

[Peter Slegg]

> Date: Thu, 01 Jun 2017 20:56:43 +0100
> From: Dave Higton <d...@davehigton.me.uk>
> Subject: Re: Unable to Fetch document
> To: netsurf-users@netsurf-browser.org
> Message-ID: <29be854556.davem...@my.inbox.com>
> In message <000450a6.01e9b4901...@smtp.freeola.net>
>   Peter Slegg <p.sl...@scubadivers.co.uk> wrote:
>
> >
> >This page always returns "Unable to fetch document" on the
> >Atari 4088 m68k build.
> >
> >https://blog.backyardworlds.org/2017/05/19/thirteen-brown-dwarf-candidates-and-our-sensitivity-limits/
> >
> >Just wondered if other builds behave the same ?
>
> RISC OS CI #4095 fetches it OK.  Lots of hourglass starts and stops,
> takes a while, but gets there.
>
> Do you need to know whether there is a problem specifically on
> CI #4088?  Was that your question?
>
> Dave


I updated to 4095 and that is the same. After 1-2mins:

Unable to fetch document

I suspect it is some sort of timing issue but other pages will render
after 15-20mins.

Peter

Re: Redraw oddity

[Peter Slegg]

On , netsurf-users-requ...@netsurf-browser.org wrote:
> Send netsurf-users mailing list submissions to
> netsurf-users@netsurf-browser.org
> Date: Tue, 16 May 2017 13:23:48 +0100
> From: "Richard Torrens (lists)" 
> Subject: Redraw oddity
> To: netsurf-users@netsurf-browser.org
> Message-ID: <563d1ee6d9li...@torrens.org>
>
> https://www.quora.com/Where-does-iPhoto-store-photos-locally
> >

That page crashes the Atari build no. 4086 (after about 5 minutes).

Peter

Opening a local file

[Peter Slegg]

If I drag & drop a file into the Netsurf window, a dialogue box appears
asking if I want to open the file.

I click Yes, it tries but fails because the filepath/name has single
quotes wrapped around it.

eg.

file:///'u:/home/mylocalfile/myfile.html'


If I remove the single quotes it works.

This is with the Atari builds (CI 4085).



Peter

Submit button

[Peter Slegg]

I was sent an online survey and the form looks ok but there
is no submit button:

Is this not supported ?



  
  
  
  
  



Peter

github crash

[Peter Slegg]

The Atari Freemint OS moved to github and they posted this link to
an Issue:

https://github.com/freemint/freemint/pull/20

When I open it with NS, it downloads about 14k in about 3-4mins but
then shows the error below and crashes out.

Failure when receiving data from the peer
render/html_object.c:127: html_object_callback: Assertion `c->base.status != 
CONTENT_STATUS_ERROR' failed.


Peter

Re: Frontend maintainership

[Peter Slegg]

Hi,

As a frequent user of the Atari NS build I passed on your comments
to the Freemint (OS) mailing list.

I don't pretend to know much about the toolchain but they have asked
for some more details about what the issues are ?


My hope is that they may be able to investigate and improve things.

The Freemint OS recently moved onto Github.


Regards,

Peter


> Date: Mon, 6 Feb 2017 11:25:25 +
> From: Vincent Sanders 
> Subject: Frontend maintainership
> To: netsurf-...@netsurf-browser.org, netsurf-users@netsurf-browser.org
>
> At the recent NetSurf developer weekend[1] we discussed many topics
> one of which was our regular review of the frontends.
>
>
> atari - The atari frontend is built for m68k and coldfire variants
>  using a variant of the netsurf cross compliation
>  toolchain/sdk. No serious updates have been made to this
>  toolchain in some time and it has become a burden.
>
> Unless this is addressed before the next developer weekend the
>  frontend will be disabled in the CI and subsequently code
>  removed.
>

w3 schools

[Peter Slegg]

I just had a quick look at w3 schools and noticed that the
left-hand code pane is rendered too small.

The right-hand pane isn't shown at all, it's an iframecontainer.

http://www.w3schools.com/jsref/tryit.asp?filename=try_dom_event_target

This is in the Atari build 3978.

Is it the same for other builds ?

Peter

Re: Website not renendering correctly

[Peter Slegg]

> Date: Fri, 25 Nov 2016 21:33:31 + (GMT)
> From: Chris Newman 
> Subject: Website not renendering correctly
> To: netsurf-users@netsurf-browser.org
> Message-ID: <55e4bd72e6cvj...@waitrose.com>
> Hi,
>
> http://www.bapfish.org.uk/networking.htm
>
> Which formally worked splendidly has now gone mammaries skyward. From at
> least #3784 on it seems.
>
> Still OK in the old Netsurf 3.5.
>
> Has been confirmed by others.
>

On Vn 3784 Atari, it appears much the same, three lines of text all
stacked on top of each other.


Peter

Milan-060 Atari clone

Re: Amazon crash

[Peter Slegg]

This is the actual error.

Failure when receiving data from the peer
render/html_object.c:127: html_object_callback: Assertion `c->base.status != 
CONTENT_STATUS_ERROR' failed.

Peter


On Thu, 29 Sep 2016 21:24:16 , Peter Slegg <p.sl...@scubadivers.co.uk> wrote:
> I had a repeatable crash when opening www.amazon.co.uk with
> Atari build 3699. I replaced it with Atari build 3722 but it
> does the same.
>
> I can raise a bug but it would be useful to know if others have the
> same problem.
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Peter
>
>

Amazon crash

[Peter Slegg]

I had a repeatable crash when opening www.amazon.co.uk with
Atari build 3699. I replaced it with Atari build 3722 but it
does the same.

I can raise a bug but it would be useful to know if others have the
same problem.


Regards,

Peter

Re: Failure when receiving data from the peer

[Peter Slegg]

> Message: 1
> Date: Sun, 10 Jul 2016 13:04:48 +0100
> From: Jim Nagel 
> Subject: Re: Failure when receiving data from the peer
> To: netsurf-users@netsurf-browser.org
> Message-ID: <9d05789d55@abbeypress.net>
>
> >>> http://www.ccrexplorers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=17
>
> Vincent Sanders wrote:
> >> I have retrived this page with and without javascript on gtk and
> >> framebuffer frontends without problem so i must conclude the issue
> >> lies with the Atari frontend.
>
> Chris Young wrote on 10 Jul:
> > It's working here too but I did notice that the page downloads *very*
> > slowly, so maybe it is just timing out?
> >Try increasing curl_fetch_timeout and/or max_retried_fetches
>
> Chris didn't say what platform he's using.  But here on RiscOS (to my
> surprise) the page loads and displays quite quickly with Javascript
> off, a bit slower (I think) with Javascript on.  Netsurf #3538.
>

I added the following to my Choices file, I wasn't sure what value to
use.

curl_fetch_timeout:100

The ccr-explorers page then rendered successfully.


It would be nice to find what causes the slow Fetch on the
Atari.

Thanks,

Peter

Re: Failure when receiving data from the peer

[Peter Slegg]

On Sat, 9 Jul 2016 18:23:57 , Vincent Sanders <vi...@netsurf-browser.org> wrote:
> On Sat, Jul 09, 2016 at 03:45:08PM +0000, Peter Slegg wrote:
> >
> > When I try to open a link to this page:
> >
> > http://www.ccrexplorers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=17
> >
>
> I have retrived this page with and without javascript on gtk and
> framebuffer frontends without problem so i must conclude the issue
> lies with the Atari frontend.
>
> As you know there has not been an atari frontend maintainer for some
> time so it it unlikely anyone will be able to address this issue
> directly.
>
> > it starts to Fetch and then fails with the error:
> >
> > Failure when receiving data from the peer
> >
> >
> > Atari build 3591
> >
> >
> > Peter
> >
>
> Thankyou for the clear report even if I cannot assist with the issue.
>

Thanks. I know there isn't an official Atari maintainer at the moment :-(

I just report issues in case they are general ones that will help others.


Peter

Failure when receiving data from the peer

[Peter Slegg]

When I try to open a link to this page:

http://www.ccrexplorers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=17

it starts to Fetch and then fails with the error:

Failure when receiving data from the peer


Atari build 3591


Peter

Github page failure

[Peter Slegg]

Hi,

I was just trying to view this git page:

https://github.com/freebsd/freebsd/tree/master/lib/libusb

but with Atari build 3570 it starts to download and then fails.


Failure when receiving data from the peer



Peter

google sites

[Peter Slegg]

Is it just the use of js that stops google sites from opening ?
All I get is "Unable to fetch document".

https://sites.google.com/site/probehouse/download/phsw-Atari-software-downloads

Peter

Re: how to make Netsurf forget its logged-in state

[Peter Slegg]

> Date: Sat, 14 May 2016 14:24:46 +0100
> From: Jim Nagel 
> Subject: Re: how to make Netsurf forget its logged-in state
>
> Frank de Bruijn  wrote on 14 May:
> >  If I quit NetSurf it *does* forget the login details, as I would have
> > expected. The authentication window pops up again after a restart.
> > That's with NetSurf 3.6 (Dev CI #3538). Which version are you using?
>
> I'm using Netsurf 3.5 #3433 (with Javascript switched off at the
> moment, if that's relevant).  And I'll update today, I promise.  I
> usually update much more frequently; the past month or two are
> atypical.
>
> You're right, though:  quitting Netsurf does forget the login details.
> So that's obviously the simple solution to my original problem.
>
> Still would like to know where Netsurf stores this info -- cache? --
> and if there'd be any way to erase it (i.e., to "log out") without
> quitting everything else that might be open.
>
>

This sounds like the sort of session behaviour that (Oracle) single sign-on
provides. Once you sign-in the browser remembers until you close the whole
browser, this is how IE, Firefox behave with Oracle sso.

Peter

Re: Slow ?

[Peter Slegg]

>
> Perhaps you can provide the CI build numbers of "working" and "slow"
> versions? the closer these values are together the easier it will be
> for a developer to attempt to diagnose the issue.

Testing on a complex page www.express.co.uk

Build 3242 required 5m 15s
Build 3537 required 8m 28s

At least it looks like it's not imaginary so I will try to narrow
down the version where the change occurs.


Peter

Re: Slow ?

[Peter Slegg]

On Wed, 11 May 2016 13:30:33 , Vincent Sanders <vi...@netsurf-browser.org> 
wrote:
> As I have mentioned previously, the Atari port has no active
> maintainer and therefore only receives the absolute minimum of changes
> to keep it compiling in the CI system. This is also why it is not a
> release candidate frontend.
>
> Given the general lack of developer time at present I cannot guarantee
> there will be resources to examine this issue.
>
> On Tue, May 10, 2016 at 09:27:54PM +, Peter Slegg wrote:
> >
> > In the past few weeks I've noticed that the download and
> > rendering speed of the (Atari) test builds seems quite a
> > bit slower than with earlier versions.
>
> As far as I know there have been no core changes recently that would
> affect the browsers speed. Generally all recent changes have been code
> cleanups in preparation for larger planned updates.
>
> Please can I ask you to check that you have not made any other changes
> to your system that might have caused this. There have been several
> reports recently which have turned out to be related to updates
> completely unrelated to NetSurf.
>
> >
> > Some pages are taking over 20 mins and more are timing out.
>
> Perhaps you can provide the CI build numbers of "working" and "slow"
> versions? the closer these values are together the easier it will be
> for a developer to attempt to diagnose the issue.
>
> >
> >
> > Peter
> >
> >

Since the Atari is one of the slower machines using Netsurf I
imagine it is good test for highlighting anything reducing speed.
High-end users might not notice a small speed drop.

I am going to work back through the versions to see if it is a real
or imagined performance drop.

I haven't made any changes that could have affected the performance.

Regards,

Peter

Slow ?

[Peter Slegg]

In the past few weeks I've noticed that the download and
rendering speed of the (atari) test builds seems quite a
bit slower than with earlier versions.

Some pages are taking over 20 mins and more are timing out.


Peter

Re: Fwd: Hotlist and strange mouse behaviour (Atari)

[Peter Slegg]

> Date: Sat, 07 May 2016 21:39:55 +0100
> From: Dave Higton <d...@davehigton.me.uk>
> Subject: Re: Fwd: Hotlist and strange mouse behaviour (Atari)
>
> Peter Slegg wrote:
>
> >
> >This issue is still present, I can't find it in Mantis so I
> >don't think it was ever logged.
> >
> >Press F6 and instead of opening the Bookmarks window the cursor focus moves
> >to the url field.
> >
> >If the mouse pointed is moved outside the NS window and F6 pressed
> >then the Bookmarks window opens as expected.
> >
> >Regards,
> >
> >Peter
> >
> >
> >-- Forwarded message. --
> > Originated by Peter Slegg
> > Date Sat, 22 Nov 2014 11:51:40
> >----
> >
> >
> >I suspect this is an Atari only issue (build 2369).
> >
> >When the mouse is over the Netsurf window, pressing F6 does
> >nothing but move the mouse outside the window and F6 opens
> >the Hotlist immediately.
>
> OK, so have you logged a Mantis case now?
>
> Dave
>
>

I didn't want to create a duplicate if it was just me not able to
find it :-)

I have created issue 2456:

http://bugs.netsurf-browser.org/mantis/view.php?id=2456

Regards,

Peter

Crash on Atari build

[Peter Slegg]

I recent builds (last week or so) I have had problems exiting ns,
it would just hang and I've also had a few situations where it
would hang while awaiting a page.

I've just had a proper crash:

Failure when receiving data from the peer
render/html_object.c:125: html_object_callback: Assertion `c->base.status != 
CONTENT_STATUS_ERROR' failed.

I was trying to view:

https://github.com/vinriviere/m68k-atari-mint-gcc/blob/

Build 3449


Peter

re: Atari front end

[Peter Slegg]

On , netsurf-users-requ...@netsurf-browser.org wrote:
> Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2016 19:34:20 +
> From: Michael Drake 
> Subject: Atari front end
> To: netsurf-users@netsurf-browser.org
> Message-ID: <56e1cc3c.5000...@netsurf-browser.org>
>
> Are there any Atari users around?
>
> Could you let us know if the current m5475 and m68k builds are working?
>
>  http://ci.netsurf-browser.org/builds/atari/?C=M;O=D
>
>

These might not be specific to the Atari build but now that js is
implemented I gave my router admin pages another test.


Enter the ip address of the router 192.168.0.1 and NS reports
that it is running out of memory.

Enter it as http://192.168.0.1 and the login dialogue appears.

I have to backspace to remove the - characters.

The password is not hidden.

The page has a js a redirect which doesn't work.


function loadnext() {top.location.href="./start.htm"; }
 Loading file ...

Regards,

Peter

Re: Missing images

[Peter Slegg]

This page seems to behave in a similar way:

http://www.itv.com/news/granada/

Peter

Missing images

[Peter Slegg]

Using the recent Atari builds on this newspaper:

http://www.express.co.uk/

the first few images are displayed but when I scroll down, the
rest are missing.

Currently using build 3434 but this has been the case for a few weeks.
I wondered if it is a time-out issue perhaps ?


Peter

Re: Javascript in Atari build

[Peter Slegg]

> Date: Sun, 21 Feb 2016 11:57:38 + (GMT)
> From: Peter Slegg <p.sl...@scubadivers.co.uk>
> Subject: Javascript in Atari build
>
> I am using Atari build 3420 and JS seems to be disabled. Paypal
> said it was disabled so I tried setting changing the settings
> because I couldn't remember which is on and off and it can't
> yet be set in the choices dialogue.
>
> enable_javascript:1  { on ? }
> enable_javascript:0  { off ?}
>
>
> http://www.javatester.org/javascript.html
>
> JavaScript IS NOT WORKING in your web browser
>
> Peter
>

JavaScript Âá IS WORKING Âá in your web browser


Ignore me, I've been caught by a quirk I found myself.

If  enable_javascript:1 is the last line in Choices then it
has to be followed by a newline.

Peter

Javascript in Atari build

[Peter Slegg]

> Date: Fri, 19 Feb 2016 21:29:45 +
> From: Michael Drake <t...@netsurf-browser.org>
> Subject: Re: Javascript features list
> To: netsurf-users@netsurf-browser.org
>
> On 19/02/16 20:11, Peter Slegg wrote:
> >
> > Is there a maintained list of available JS features ?
>
> The closest is this:
>
> http://git.netsurf-browser.org/netsurf.git/tree/Docs/UnimplementedJavascript.txt
>

I am using Atari build 3420 and JS seems to be disabled. Paypal
said it was disabled so I tried setting changing the settings
because I couldn't remember which is on and off and it can't
yet be set in the choices dialogue.

enable_javascript:1  { on ? }
enable_javascript:0  { off ?}


http://www.javatester.org/javascript.html

JavaScript IS NOT WORKING in your web browser

Peter

Refresh button (Atari)

[Peter Slegg]

Atari build 3420

I just had a page timeout (bing) and I noticed that after the
timeout dialogue has been dismissed it isn't possible to click
the refresh button, it is stil greyed out.

Peter

Re: Javascript features list

[Peter Slegg]

>Date: Sat, 20 Feb 2016 00:41:08 +0100
>From: Ole Loots <o...@monochrom.net>
>Subject: Re: Javascript features list
>Am Freitag, den 19.02.2016, 20:11 +0000 schrieb Peter Slegg:
>
>> I am looking at a survey form and wondered if buttons should work ?
>
>
>When I tested JS builds for Atari three weeks ago, onclick for buttons
>worked well. What does the verbose log say? And what do you expect?
>
>The code inside the onclick attribute seems to disable the button when
>validation fails. But I guess the rendering engine does not deal with
>such dynamic changes right now. Maybe there is also an exception... the
>log will tell you more.
>
>Greets,
>Ole

Hi Ole,

When I click on the button:

(2332.005000) atari/rootwin.c:176 handle_event: rootwin MU_BUTTON input, x: 
674, y: 674

(2332.010003) render/html.c:89 fire_dom_event: Dispatching 'click' against 
0x1d21f0c
(2336.24) atari/gui.c:153 atari_poll: WM: 30


I am expecting NS to go to the next page to begin the survey.

Peter

Javascript features list

[Peter Slegg]

Is there a maintained list of available JS features ?
I found this http://wiki.netsurf-browser.org/Development_Plan
but it looks a bit out of date and I found some circular references
on http://www.netsurf-browser.org/documentation/info.html#JavaScript


I am looking at a survey form and wondered if buttons should work ?


The code in question is:

Re: JavaScript enabled builds for Atari

[Peter Slegg]

> Date: Sat, 23 Jan 2016 11:22:09 +
> From: Michael Drake 
> Subject: JavaScript enabled builds for Atari
>
>
> We have enabled JavaScript builds (json) for Atari on the CI server.
>
> You can get them here:
>
>  http://ci.netsurf-browser.org/builds/atari/?C=M;O=D
>
> I'm not sure if the Atari front end exposes the JavaScript option in
> its GUI.  If not, you can edit the Choices file setting either:
>
>  enable_javascript:0
> or
>  enable_javascript:1
>
> I'd be interested to get confirmation on whether its working from
> Atari users.  You can test by visiting:
>
> http://git.netsurf-browser.org/netsurf.git/plain/test/js/js-fractal.html
>

I spotted this in the git commits last night. I tried the build but
I don't think the setting is exposed in the Atari Choices dialogue.

I just tried build 3296 but I wasn't sure whether 0 or 1 was on.
After a couple of failed attempts, I think I needed an extra LF in
the choices file, I seem to have JS working.

The link above gives a character based Mandelbrot:

.:::;;=i++E  EHHHO
 ,,,:::;;==iHhhE###

Brilliant :-)

I am off to try some more tests.

Many thanks all.

Regards,

Peter

Re: JavaScript enabled builds for Atari

[Peter Slegg]

On Sat, 23 Jan 2016 13:00:14 , Peter Slegg <p.sl...@scubadivers.co.uk> wrote:
>
> I spotted this in the git commits last night. I tried the build but
> I don't think the setting is exposed in the Atari Choices dialogue.
>
> I just tried build 3296 but I wasn't sure whether 0 or 1 was on.
> After a couple of failed attempts, I think I needed an extra LF in
> the choices file, I seem to have JS working.
>
> The link above gives a character based Mandelbrot:
>
> ..:::;;=i++E  EHHHO
>  ,,,:::;;==iHhhE###
>
> Brilliant :-)
>
> I am off to try some more tests.
>
> Many thanks all.
>
> Regards,
>
> Peter
>
>

Using Netsurf JS today it has crashed a few times.
It isn't as stable as the last non-JS versions.


Peter

Re: Very slow page rendering

[Peter Slegg]

> Date: 10 Jan 2016 14:24:53 +
> From: "Chris Young" 
> Subject: Re: Very slow page rendering
> To: 
>
>
> I notice the Atari code has three font rendering engines; VDI,
> FreeType and Internal.  It look like FreeType and Internal are
> enabled, and FreeType is the default.
>
> Try setting the following in your Choices file:
> atari_font_driver:internal
>
> See if that makes any perceivable difference.
>
> Chris
>

Worth a try but it still took a little over 18 minutes.
I reckon about the same time as it was before.

Regards,

Peter

Atari CI build 3260

Re: The Kingfisher by Corne van Oosterhout

[Peter Slegg]

> Date: Fri, 08 Jan 2016 19:42:07 GMT
> From: Peter Young <pnyo...@ormail.co.uk>
> Subject: Re: The Kingfisher by Corne van Oosterhout
> To: <netsurf-users@netsurf-browser.org>
> Message-ID: <2a14e03e55.pnyo...@pnyoung.ormail.co.uk>
> On 8 Jan 2016  Peter Slegg <p.sl...@scubadivers.co.uk> wrote:
>
> >> I know that this is very much a technical newsgroup but I just could not
> >> fail to be impressed how well NetSurf renders the following,
> >>
> >> http://totallycoolpix.com/magazine/2016/01/the-kingfisher-by-corne-van
> >> -oosterhout
> >>
> >> some sort of photography!?!
> >>
> >> Brian
> >>
> >>
>
> > Is that url complete ?
>
> > All I get is  "Bad redirect URL"
>
> Is it because it's line-wrapped, as it is here? If so, copy it into a
> text editor, make sure it's all on the same line and run it from
> there.
>
> Best wishes,
>
> Peter.
>

The original hadn't line wrapped and didn't have any > > indents either.

This morning and with build 3252 it works as expected. Odd.

Thanks for checking.


Regards,

Peter

Very slow page rendering

[Peter Slegg]

http://git.netsurf-browser.org/netsurf.git/tree/atari/gemtk/guiwin.c

This page takes abut 20mins to download and render, Highwire browser
takes about 6sec.

I think the difference is that Highwire doesn't handle the css
so maybe there could be some performance gains to be had in
either downloading or the css handling ?

Peter

Re: Very slow page rendering

[Peter Slegg]

>Date: Sat, 09 Jan 2016 16:11:40 GMT
>From: Richard Porter <r...@minijem.plus.com>
>Subject: Re: Very slow page rendering
>To: netsurf-users@netsurf-browser.org
>On 9 Jan 2016 Dave Higton  wrote:
>
>> In message <000a3379.01eff490b...@smtp.freeola.net>
>>   Peter Slegg <p.sl...@scubadivers.co.uk> wrote:
>
>>
>>>http://git.netsurf-browser.org/netsurf.git/tree/atari/gemtk/guiwin.c
>>>
>>>This page takes abut 20mins to download and render, Highwire browser
>>>takes about 6sec.
>
>> I just tried it with CI#3254 on an Iyonix.  Took about 24 sec.
>
>> If you're not on a very recent CI build, I would recommend you get
>> one.  Very slow rendering was fixed a couple of months ago.
>
>About 43s here on RPC with standard ADSL connection. CI#3250. Firefox
>on the macbook pro takes 2s over the same connection.

I am using a build from today and I know it is never going to be
lighting quick on an M68060 but my point is that the speed seems
unduly slow over an adsl link that normally downloads at 350k/s.

I have reported before that Netsurf on the Atari seems slow at
downloading pages so it might just be an issue with how Netsurf is
using the OS ?  It's not my area of expertise.

Is it because there are a lot of files ?
Is it a cache issue ?

Long delays can often be observed on other pages. The git url is
a useful test case because it is fairly stable and repeatable.

No criticism, I am hoping this might help the devs find some speed
improvements.

Regards,

Peter

Re: The Kingfisher by Corne van Oosterhout

[Peter Slegg]

> I know that this is very much a technical newsgroup but I just could not
> fail to be impressed how well NetSurf renders the following,
>
> http://totallycoolpix.com/magazine/2016/01/the-kingfisher-by-corne-van-oosterhout
>
> some sort of photography!?!
>
> Brian
>
>

Is that url complete ?

All I get is  "Bad redirect URL"

Peter

Re: Search Case Sensitivity - RISC OS - #3251

[Peter Slegg]

There seems to be some issues with the highlighting the the second
instance of the search string.

http://www.twenga.nl/fietslift.html

On the this page I searched for "Premium" and although it jumps
to the second instance, it isn't highlighted.

Atari build 3251

Regards,
Peter

Ski Club website

[Peter Slegg]

Can someone else try the Ski Club GB website and see if it does
the same as Atari build 3250 ?

http://skiclub.co.uk/?utm_campaign=2015-08-14

The page open successfully apart from the mouse pointer disappearring.
I recover it with a keyboard shortcut but is suggests there is a problem.

Then I clicked on the Snow & Weather link in the blue bar and there
was an error about the server, then Netsurf crashed.

I repeated this 3 times and on the fourth time, the page has opened
correctly after the mouse pointer vanished 3 or 4 times.

I am going to repeat it the test and make a note of the exact error
message.

Peter

Re: Ski Club website

[Peter Slegg]

On Mon, 4 Jan 2016 20:56:48 - (UTC), "Gerald Dodson" 
 wrote:
> > Can someone else try the Ski Club GB website and see if it does
> > the same as Atari build 3250 ?
> >
> > http://skiclub.co.uk/?utm_campaign=2015-08-14
> >
> > The page open successfully apart from the mouse pointer disappearring.
> > I recover it with a keyboard shortcut but is suggests there is a problem.
> >
> > Then I clicked on the Snow & Weather link in the blue bar and there
> > was an error about the server, then Netsurf crashed.
> >
> > I repeated this 3 times and on the fourth time, the page has opened
> > correctly after the mouse pointer vanished 3 or 4 times.
> >
> > I am going to repeat it the test and make a note of the exact error
> > message.
> >
> > Peter
>
> No problems with RO 5.18 and NS 3056 on an Iyo.
>
> Gerald
>
>

I was able to repeat the test and got the same result.
The error was:

  Failure when receiving data from the peer

The I noticed in the console:

  render/html_object.c:125: html_object_callback: Assertion `c->base.status != 
CONTENT_STATUS_ERROR' failed.


I suspect the vanishing mouse pointer is simple due to the slow
rendering of the page. If I wait then the pointer reappears on
its own.

Regards,

Peter

Re: NetSurf progress

[Peter Slegg]

> Date: Tue, 3 Nov 2015 05:32:48 -0800
> From: Dave Higton 
> Subject: NetSurf progress
>
> If you have been downloading Continuous Integration (CI) builds,
> you will probably have noticed that there have been over 25 of
> them in the last few days.  This represents the progress that
> NetSurf has been making, both in adding new functionality and
> in fixing bugs.

I've been exclusively using the Atari CI builds for a long time
and it has become my prime browser on the Atari because it makes
the best job or rendering most pages.

I usually update 2-3 times each month. I can't remember when
the last one was unstable.

There are some issues, speed being the main one. This isn't
a JS issue because there isn't a JS build for the Atari.
It would be nice to try one.

Great work and a big thanks to everyone involved.

I think the progress page needs an update :-)

Peter S.

Re: Jenkins webpage

[Peter Slegg]

On Mon, 19 Oct 2015 20:29:54 , Ole Loots <o...@monochrom.net> wrote:
>
> Am Sonntag, den 18.10.2015, 18:17 +0000 schrieb Peter Slegg:
>
>
> > Hi Ole,
> >
> > Screenshot attached showing, what I think, are the build servers
> > above the CI modules.
> >
> Hello Peter,
>
> firefox also renders it that way. So that doesn't look like an error in
> the atari frontend.
>
> Greets,
> Ole
>

Not for me it didn't, using the Firefox Beta on Windows.

I also checked Firefox and Opera on Android and both show
the cislave list down the left-hand side.

Regards,

Peter

Jenkins webpage

[Peter Slegg]

I was just having a look around the Netsurf devs area and noticed
that the Jenkins page is not displayed correctly.

http://ci.netsurf-browser.org/jenkins/

The menu that should be on the left is being shown at the top.

Atari build 2999.

Peter

Re: Error on Yahoo news

[Peter Slegg]

 Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2015 21:58:34 +0100
 From: Dave Higton
 Subject: Re: Error on Yahoo news
 Peter Slegg wrote:

 
 This url  uk.news.yahoo.com  just gives me the error
 Could not process this GET request.
 
 This is on Atari build 2915.
 
 Just wondered if it is repeatable for others.

 I'm using RISC OS build 2921, and it doesn't happen here.

 Dave


It's the same with build 2926.

Peter

Re: Error on Yahoo news

[Peter Slegg]

 Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2015 14:18:44 +0100
 From: Richard Torrens (lists) li...@torrens.org.uk
 Subject: Re: Error on Yahoo news
 To: netsurf-users@netsurf-browser.org
 Message-ID: 54f6a3f263li...@torrens.org.uk
 In article 00110f20.031e94909...@smtp.freeola.net,
Peter Slegg p.sl...@scubadivers.co.uk wrote:
  This url  uk.news.yahoo.com  just gives me the error

 It strikes me that that is not a URL.

 As this is a Netsurf list, do you mean http://uk.news.yahoo.com ? That
 orks here. As does  https://uk.news.yahoo.com


Is the http really necessary ? Shouldn't it just
direct to http://uk.news.yahoo.com in any case ?

The link I was given wasn't https but the https page does try to
open, sometimes, it keeps timing out and often the css layout is
missing.

Also, https://www/yahoo.com has been loading for about 20 mins at
the moment.

Peter


Peter

Re: Error on Yahoo news

[Peter Slegg]

On Fri, 21 Aug 2015 18:40:18 , Peter Slegg p.sl...@scubadivers.co.uk wrote:
  Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2015 14:18:44 +0100
  From: Richard Torrens (lists) li...@torrens.org.uk
  Subject: Re: Error on Yahoo news
  To: netsurf-users@netsurf-browser.org
 Peter Slegg p.sl...@scubadivers.co.uk wrote:
   This url  uk.news.yahoo.com  just gives me the error
 
  It strikes me that that is not a URL.
 
  As this is a Netsurf list, do you mean http://uk.news.yahoo.com ? That
  orks here. As does  https://uk.news.yahoo.com
 

 Is the http really necessary ? Shouldn't it just
 direct to http://uk.news.yahoo.com in any case ?

 The link I was given wasn't https but the https page does try to
 open, sometimes, it keeps timing out and often the css layout is
 missing.

PS
 I had actually followed the News link from http://uk.yahoo.com
and that was to  http://uk.news.yahoo.com and gives the GET error.

Peter

Error on Yahoo news

[Peter Slegg]

This url  uk.news.yahoo.com  just gives me the error
Could not process this GET request.

This is on Atari build 2915.

Just wondered if it is repeatable for others.

Peter

ebay rendering

[Peter Slegg]

I don't think I have looked at ebay.co.uk with Netsurf before
and I was suprised that the rendering is a bit mangled.

I did a search and the results page isn't good either.

Not a criticism, just feeding back my observations.
I expect that ebay is using currently unsupported features.

Atari build no. 2652


Regards,

Peter

Re: BBC News site

[Peter Slegg]

 In message 00019af7.01f79490a...@smtp.freeola.net
  Peter Slegg p.sl...@scubadivers.co.uk wrote:


 I've just installed Atari build 2652. When I try to open the BBC news
 site www.bbc.co.uk/news/ it pops up a message:

  Failure when receiving data from peer

 and then it exits abruptly.

 Might be a problem with the site. It loads ok here but takes a very long
 time to do so.

Works fine here, loaded in 9 secs. NS 3.3, RasPi B, RO 5.21 [RC12,
12-Jan-15].

There was a very recent change to one of the Atari modules in git
and I wondered if it might have been caused by that ?

Peter

BBC News site

[Peter Slegg]

I've just installed Atari build 2652. When I try to
open the BBC news site www.bbc.co.uk/news/
it pops up a message:

 Failure when receiving data from peer

and then it exits abruptly.


Peter

Javascript version

[Peter Slegg]

 I guess this would be relevant only for the json version of Netsurf
 (or would simply do nothing in the jsoff version).

There is no jsoff version anymore.

B.

There isn't a Javascript version for the Atari build yet.
It would be nice to have the option but I don't know what the
performance would be like.

IIRC There was only one other JS enabled browser (Draconis - Adamas)
but I found it very buggy.


Peter

Re: Malformed site (partly OT).

[Peter Slegg]

 Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2015 12:49:38 GMT
 From: Peter Young pnyo...@ormail.co.uk
 Subject: Re: Malformed site (partly OT).

 That's interesting, and indeed the site is misbehaving today. Loading
 those three files and then refreshing the site corrects it, so it does
 indeed seem that NetSurf is tripping over itself and failing to get
 the CSS files.

 Is this worth a bug report?

 Best wishes,

 Peter.


I have also seen pages rendered without the css but I sometimes see this
on Firefox with my much faster office PC.

Peter

Slow page opening

[Peter Slegg]

This page just took about 5 mins to open. I will check to see if
it is repeatable but it might be useful to see if other platforms
have the same issue:

https://www.falkemedia-shop.de/contacts/

Atari build 2598

Regards,

Peter

Re: netsurf-users Digest, Vol 93, Issue 4

[Peter Slegg]

 From: Peter Slegg
 Subject: Re: Page timeout
  Date: Thu, 08 Jan 2015 20:18:07 + (GMT)
  From: Alan Calder
  Subject: Re: Page timeout
  To: netsurf-users@netsurf-browser.org
 Peter Slegg wrote:
   When I tried the page below it just times-out and never
   renders any of the page, it didn't even leave Bing, where
   I found the link.
 
   https://www.gov.uk/bank-holidays
 
   Does it do this for anyone else ?
 
  Works fine for me, Netsurf 3.1 on RISC OS.  Inspecting the innards of your
  post I see mention of Atari Milan so maybe my comment won't be helpful!
 
  Alan
 

 I'm using Atari build 2508 and even after a reboot it still times-out.
 I was able to access it with an ancient browser (CAB).

 I'll update and see what happens.

 Thanks,

 Peter



After a hiccup with some missing files from the cache folder I
got 2511 to start up.

It still times-out with the link to gov.uk.

Peter

Re: Page timeout

[Peter Slegg]

 Date: Fri, 9 Jan 2015 21:14:57 + (GMT)
 From: Peter Slegg
 Subject: Re: Page timeout

 I'm using Atari build 2508 and even after a reboot it still times-out.
 I was able to access it with an ancient browser (CAB).

 I'll update and see what happens.

 Thanks,

 Peter


I tried 2511 and that won't start properly. A dialoue pops-up with

Netsurf failed to initialise.

Regards,

Peter

Re: Page timeout

[Peter Slegg]

 Date: Thu, 08 Jan 2015 20:18:07 + (GMT)
 From: Alan Calder
 Subject: Re: Page timeout
 To: netsurf-users@netsurf-browser.org
Peter Slegg wrote:
  When I tried the page below it just times-out and never
  renders any of the page, it didn't even leave Bing, where
  I found the link.

  https://www.gov.uk/bank-holidays

  Does it do this for anyone else ?

 Works fine for me, Netsurf 3.1 on RISC OS.  Inspecting the innards of your
 post I see mention of Atari Milan so maybe my comment won't be helpful!

 Alan


I'm using Atari build 2508 and even after a reboot it still times-out.
I was able to access it with an ancient browser (CAB).

I'll update and see what happens.

Thanks,

Peter

Daily builds

[Peter Slegg]

Have the daily builds been running since the 21st ?

Peter

Re: Image Link issue

[Peter Slegg]

I had a quick look at the code with the Inspect tool in Firefox (nice
feature) and the image links don't look particularly unusual apart from a
JS onclick for Google analytics.

I have reported it:

http://bugs.netsurf-browser.org/mantis/view.php?id=2243

Peter

Image Link issue

[Peter Slegg]

http://www.express.co.uk/news/nature/546649/Geminids-meteor-shower-live-stream-best-places-to-watch

On the page above there are image links down the right-hand
side.

The top one is shown with the wrong width.

The numbered ones are ok but when the mouse is moved over the
ones further down the link shown is the same for all the images
and when it is clicked the same page is opened regarless of the
image.

This is with Atari build no. 2427

Can someone confirm this with other versions ?

Peter

Re: Crash when scrolling

[Peter Slegg]

1. Crash when scrolling (Peter Slegg)
 Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2014 13:37:20 + (GMT)
 From: Peter Slegg
 Subject: Crash when scrolling

 Scroll down this page and Netsurf suddenly exits.
 (Atari build 2247)

 http://www.hugsac.org.uk/


 Peter



I just tried this again with Atari build No. 2427 and it still
scrashes when scrolling down with the mouse wheel at about 3/4
of the way down the page.

Also mouse wheel scrolling on this page is very, very slow.

Peter

Hotlist and strange mouse behaviour (Atari)

[Peter Slegg]

I suspect this is an Atari only issue (build 2369).

When the mouse is over the Netsurf window, pressing F6 does
nothing but move the mouse outside the window and F6 opens
the Hotlist immediately.

Peter

Cannot Save hotlist

[Peter Slegg]

Sometimes I have noticed that when exiting Netsurf it
says it cannot save the hotlist.

I have noticed this issue for months but only recently
made a connection.

It only seems to occur whenever I have used the View source
option.

It could be that the editor I am using to view the source
is holding a file lock but why would it lock the hotlist ?


Currently using Atari build 2327.

Peter

Re: Crash when scrolling

[Peter Slegg]

Message: 3
Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2014 13:55:57 - (UTC)
From: Learning Partners lp.bo...@argonet.co.uk
Subject: Re: Crash when scrolling
To: netsurf-users@netsurf-browser.org

This may be Atari specific? RISC OS ARMini X Netsurf 3.2

Dr John Hurley
Research, Project Development and Publications for Education


Almost certainly but it stil needs to be reported.

It seems to happen when scrolling with the mouse wheel.

Peter

Crash when scrolling

[Peter Slegg]

Scroll down this page and Netsurf suddenly exits.
(Atari build 2247)

http://www.hugsac.org.uk/


Peter

Re: Cache on Atari build

[Peter Slegg]

Should there be anything appearring in the cache folder ?

When I turn on OS debug output I can see errors:

pid 143 (ns020): sys_socket: fd 10
pid 143 (ns020): sys_connect(10, 0x253AA80, 16)
pid 143 (ns020): sys_connect(10): error -325
pid 143 (ns020): Fstat64(u:\g\Applications\netsurf\res\cache\d\2\K\K\2KKRZQA): 
path2cookie returned -33
pid 143 (ns020): Freadlink: unable to find 
u:\g\Applications\netsurf\res\cache\d\2\K\K\2KKRZQA
pid 143 (ns020): do_open(u:\g\Applications\netsurf\res\cache\d\2\K\K\2KKRZQA): 
error -33
No such file or directory.
pid 143 (ns020): sys_getsockopt(10, 65535, 4, 0x253AD10, 0x253AD14)


Peter


On Wed, 1 Oct 2014 18:58:39 , Peter Slegg p.sl...@scubadivers.co.uk wrote:

 I tried build 2126 and 2127 and they both stopped with a Failed to
 Initialise message.

 A look in the log showed it was trying top open res/cache/control
 so I created an empty folder res/cache

 Netsurf was then able to start.

 Should this empty cache folder be added to the build ?

 Is caching now enabled on all the platforms ?

 Peter

Re: River Cottage

[Peter Slegg]

On Sun, 19 Oct 2014 12:00:05 , netsurf-users-requ...@netsurf-browser.org wrote:
 --

 Message: 1
 Date: Sat, 18 Oct 2014 12:51:17 +0200
 From: Jean-Fran?ois Lemaire jflema...@skynet.be
 Subject: Re: River Cottage
 To: netsurf-users@netsurf-browser.org
 netsurf-users@netsurf-browser.org
 Message-ID: 9241046.6e56qpv...@chertsey.site
 On Saturday 18 October 2014 10:17:37 Peter Slegg wrote:

  I am using Atari build no. 2174
  I won't post the full link but this is the url:
  http://rivercottagenews.net/
  The page is displayed but the mouse never reappears.

 Works for me with Atari build 2117. Can you test an earlier build?

 Cheers,
 JFL

The link above wasn't the full subscribe/unsubscribe link which I
didn't want to post on a public list.

I have asked Ole to have a look.

Peter

River Cottage

[Peter Slegg]

I am using Atari build no. 2174

I decided to unsubscribe from River Cottage emails, I
can't remember why I signed up.

I won't post the full link but this is the url:

http://rivercottagenews.net/


The page is displayed but the mouse never reappears.


Ctrl-Alt-R resets the system which in this case kills
Netsurf.


Peter

Cache on Atari build

[Peter Slegg]

I tried build 2126 and 2127 and they both stopped with a Failed to
Initialise message.

A look in the log showed it was trying top open res/cache/control
so I created an empty folder res/cache

Netsurf was then able to start.

Should this empty cache folder be added to the build ?

Is caching now enabled on all the platforms ?

Peter

Re: Atari test builds

[Peter Slegg]

On Wed, 24 Sep 2014 17:28:43 , Vincent Sanders vi...@netsurf-browser.org 
wrote:
 On Tue, Sep 23, 2014 at 06:28:44PM +, Peter Slegg wrote:
  The Atari build folder is empty:
 
  http://ci.netsurf-browser.org/builds/atari/
 

 Unfortunately the CI system master ran itself out of disc and I had to
 clean out some corrupted builds including the gtk,monkey and atari
 directories.

 I have rectified the disc issue and we now have plenty of space so
 this should not happen again. sorry for any inconvenience.


Thanks Vincent. I assumed it was something more serious than
a broken build and I was puzzled that the other builds were
still there.

This explains it.

Regards,

Peter

Atari test builds

[Peter Slegg]

The Atari build folder is empty:

http://ci.netsurf-browser.org/builds/atari/

Peter

Re: CSS Base

[Peter Slegg]

On Sun, 14 Sep 2014 12:00:22 , netsurf-users-requ...@netsurf-browser.org wrote:
Date: Sat, 13 Sep 2014 14:35:24 +0200
From: Ole Loots o...@monochrom.net
Subject: Re: CSS Base

Hello,

thanks for keeping an eye on the dev builds.

The latest build (2106) should be fixed.

For more information see the commit:

http://git.netsurf-browser.org/netsurf.git/commit/?id=d7f479070e6a198084f92e77c26b9bb0e8cab471

Greets,
Ole

3.3 Atari build 2107 is working perfectly :-)

Many thanks.

Peter

Re: CSS Base

[Peter Slegg]

I just tried the latest daily Atari build (2105)  but I am still getting the
CSS Base error message.

At that point the log file looks like this :


(5.875000) content/content.c content_convert 283: content file:///./hotlist.htm 
(0x1b1be0c)
(5.875002) render/html_css.c html_css_quirks_stylesheets 503: 4 fetches active
(5.875003) render/html.c html_convert 1028: quirks set to 2
(5.875004) render/html.c html_convert 1032: 3 fetches active
(5.88) atari/gui.c gui_poll 144: WM: 4944

(5.955002) render/html_css.c html_convert_css_callback 112: stylesheet 
file:///u%3A%5Cg%5CApplications%5Cnetsurf%5Cres%5Cdefault.css failed: 
UnacceptableType
(5.955003) render/html_css.c html_convert_css_callback 116: 2 fetches active
(5.975000) render/html_css.c html_convert_css_callback 112: stylesheet 
file:///user.css failed: UnacceptableType
(5.975001) render/html_css.c html_convert_css_callback 116: 1 fetches active
(5.99) render/html_css.c html_convert_css_callback 112: stylesheet 
file:///u%3A%5Cg%5CApplications%5Cnetsurf%5Cres%5Cquirks.css failed: 
UnacceptableType
(5.990001) render/html_css.c html_convert_css_callback 116: 0 fetches active
(5.990002) render/html.c html_begin_conversion 1085: Completing parse


I don't know what to try that might help.
The last working version I have is No. 1917

Peter

CSS Base

[Peter Slegg]

Does anyone know what is wrong with the Atari daily builds?

Any page just opens a dialogue box saying CSS Base (attached).
No pages are rendered.

Peter

Atari daily build

[Peter Slegg]

There seems to be a problem with the Atari test build 1930

When opening any page a dialogue box pops-up saying CSSBase
and the page is not rendered.

Peter

Allrecipes website

[Peter Slegg]

I am using the Atari build No. 1841 (m68k) and this allrecipes page just
displays blank.

It is probably just the JS but I can't test that here. I tried editing
the page source to remove the JS but still blank.

Can someone else confirm the behaviour and if it is the JS ?



Peter

Yahoo groups

[Peter Slegg]

I have accessed Yahoo groups before but when I tried just to open
various pages I keep getting the error:

Unable to fetch document

I am using version Atari 1741

Regards,

Peter

Amazon e-mail field

[Peter Slegg]

I noticed that the e-mail field on Amazon is displayed quite small.

Peter




div id=ap_signin1a_email_row class=ap_row




  span class=ap_col1 ap_bold ap_right ap_no_collapse
label for=ap_email



  My e-mail address is:


/label
  /span




  span class=ap_col2 ap_left
input id=ap_email name=email value= type=email size=30 
maxlength=128 tabindex=1 autocorrect=off autocapitalize=off /
  /span
/div

Page layout

[Peter Slegg]

This page doesn't render very well, it may be the JS.

http://help.crystalski.co.uk/crystalski

Also I did a search and when I tried to open the results it just
times out.

Peter