Re: Font scanning issue
On 22 Jun 2015 Bernard Boase [mailto: b.bo...@bcs.org] wrote: [snip] Has anyone else had this experience? And could it be considered a bug that Netsurf can stall so unhelpfully during font re-initialisation? This happened to me a while back with a rogue font, though I haven't used the font since. Or maybe if I know I am using that font I subconsciously start up Netsurf before double clicking the !Fonts folder which contains that font. It would be helpful if Netsurf had some sort of report / option to skip installation etc. Chris. -- Chris
Font scanning issue
If a problem font is added to one's RISC OS system after Netsurf has established its RUfl_cache file, it seems that on next start-up Netsurf can hang the machine without having given any error information to help diagnose the problem. When this happened to me, I'd forgotten that I'd added a font (but in any case had not suspected it to be faulty), and it wasn't until I deleted RUfl_cache that the font scanning progress bar could be seen again and therefore where it stopped immediately before the hang. This helped identify the suspect font. Has anyone else had this experience? And could it be considered a bug that Netsurf can stall so unhelpfully during font re-initialisation? -- Bernard
Font Scanning
Updated Netsurf to Yesterdays (1st April) version. The message reads Scanning fonts-please wait So how many hours does one wait while the machine is frozen literally, for this scan to finish. After a substantial amount of time at Times.New.Roman and 88% showing on the hourglass the only way I could get control of the machine was a back button reset. Eventually, the only way I could get Netsurf to behave was temporarily switch off all the fonts in my Font manager. I guess as it was an April 1st version... :-( Dave --
Re: Font Scanning
On 2 Apr 2009, Dave Symes d...@triffid.co.uk wrote: Updated Netsurf to Yesterdays (1st April) version. Running the same version here, no problem. The message reads Scanning fonts-please wait So how many hours does one wait while the machine is frozen literally, for this scan to finish. After a substantial amount of time at Times.New.Roman and 88% showing on the hourglass the only way I could get control of the machine was a back button reset. Try removing that font from your !Fonts directory. If that solves the problem it means that something is amiss with the font. Having scanned the fonts when it is first run, NetSurf stores the result in !Scrap. Thus, to avoid font-scanning at every start-up, !Scrap should not be kept in a RAMdisc. After the fonts have been scanned, NetSurf normally loads in about ten seconds, on a SARPC. Tony
Re: Font Scanning
In article acdcd54550.old_coas...@old_coaster.yahoo.co.uk, Tony Moore old_coas...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: On 2 Apr 2009, Dave Symes d...@triffid.co.uk wrote: Updated Netsurf to Yesterdays (1st April) version. Running the same version here, no problem. The message reads Scanning fonts-please wait So how many hours does one wait while the machine is frozen literally, for this scan to finish. After a substantial amount of time at Times.New.Roman and 88% showing on the hourglass the only way I could get control of the machine was a back button reset. Try removing that font from your !Fonts directory. If that solves the problem it means that something is amiss with the font. Having scanned the fonts when it is first run, NetSurf stores the result in !Scrap. Thus, to avoid font-scanning at every start-up, !Scrap should not be kept in a RAMdisc. After the fonts have been scanned, NetSurf normally loads in about ten seconds, on a SARPC. Tony Thanks for the thoughts. But. This is the first time Netsurf has constipated itself with a font scan, and I've been using Netsurf for a long time, updating usually once a week. The font in question has been there for a long time also. I never have !Scrap in a Ramdisk, probably because I *never* have a Ram disk activated. As I mentioned, temporarily switching all my fonts off in EFP, then running Netsurf, then switching the fonts back on sorted that bit 'o constipation. Dave --
Re: Font Scanning
In article 5045d76fa5rh.li...@virgin.net, Russell Hafter - Lists rh.li...@virgin.net wrote: That does not seem to be the best place to store such info. Surely Scrap, by definition and name, is just for *very* temporary stuff that is not needed over the long term. I cannot be the only person who clears out scrap every so often! A problem addressed by Rob Kendrick's Caches application: quote !Caches provides a shared location for the storage of transient cache data. It is intended to be used instead of !Scrap or Choices for data that's helpful to keep around, but not the end of the world if it is deleted. It was created to let people keep cached data if they store their !Scrap in a RAM disc. /quote But if people/developers don't take advantage of it ... ... what are we to do? I myself use Scrap for some Pic_Index data - if you delete it it just takes a little longer to start, just like NetSurf! John -- || John Williams || Brittany, Northern France Who is John Williams? http://petit.four.free.fr/picindex/author/ E-mail replies only accepted from RISC OS machines or RISC in subject line Somewhere nice to stay in Brittany? http://petit.four.free.fr/visitors/locate
Re: Font Scanning
In article 5045d943c8li...@picindex.info, John Williams li...@picindex.info wrote: In article 5045d76fa5rh.li...@virgin.net, Russell Hafter - Lists rh.li...@virgin.net wrote: That does not seem to be the best place to store such info. Surely Scrap, by definition and name, is just for *very* temporary stuff that is not needed over the long term. I cannot be the only person who clears out scrap every so often! A problem addressed by Rob Kendrick's Caches application: Can you say where to find it? Google was no help at all. -- Russell Hafter - Mailing Lists rh.li...@virgin.net Need a hotel? http://www.hrs.de/?client=en__MTcustomerId=416873103 (NB This link needs Firefox to work)
Re: Font Scanning
In article 5045db09b0rh.li...@virgin.net, Russell Hafter - Lists rh.li...@virgin.net wrote: Can you say where to find it? Google was no help at all. I found it in my Resources directory! But unfortunately nothing uses it. I'm sure Rob reads this list from time-to-time and will be able to tell you - but applications need to adopt it /if present/ and fall back to Scrap if not. Unfortunately, NS doesn't, and neither does Pic_Index! They could! John -- || John Williams || Brittany, Northern France Who is John Williams? http://petit.four.free.fr/picindex/author/ E-mail replies only accepted from RISC OS machines or RISC in subject line Somewhere nice to stay in Brittany? http://petit.four.free.fr/visitors/locate
Re: Font Scanning
On 2 Apr 2009, Dave Symes d...@triffid.co.uk wrote: [snip] As I mentioned, temporarily switching all my fonts off in EFP, then running Netsurf, then switching the fonts back on sorted that bit 'o constipation. You do that each time you start NetSurf, or did the problem not recur? Tony
Re: Font Scanning
In article 984bdf4550.old_coas...@old_coaster.yahoo.co.uk, Tony Moore old_coas...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: On 2 Apr 2009, Dave Symes d...@triffid.co.uk wrote: [snip] As I mentioned, temporarily switching all my fonts off in EFP, then running Netsurf, then switching the fonts back on sorted that bit 'o constipation. You do that each time you start NetSurf, or did the problem not recur? Tony Machine was totally frozen by the Netsurf constipation, I did a Back button Reset Boot. Machine back in action. Switched off all the fonts, Ran Netsurf, Switched the Fonts back on. Thereafter no problems. Netsurf runs okay, and there is a ...RUfl_cache in the required place. Dave --
Re: Font Scanning
In article 1238716328.7159.17.ca...@duiker, John-Mark Bell j...@netsurf-browser.org wrote: On Thu, 2009-04-02 at 19:09 +0100, Dave Symes wrote: Updated Netsurf to Yesterdays (1st April) version. The message reads Scanning fonts-please wait So how many hours does one wait while the machine is frozen literally, for this scan to finish. After a substantial amount of time at Times.New.Roman and 88% showing on the hourglass the only way I could get control of the machine was a back button reset. Eventually, the only way I could get Netsurf to behave was temporarily switch off all the fonts in my Font manager. Are you sure that you haven't added any new fonts recently? The font scanning code has not been changed for years. NetSurf's log file should shed some light on which font is currently causing problems. John. Not added any new fonts for quite a while... many months at least. Dave --
