Re: NetSurf running out of memory
Brian Howlett wrote > On 3 Nov, John Rickman Iyonix wrote: > [snip] >> Not so with the links I reported unfortunately. They still fail on >> #571. >> However the message has changed from "out of memory to "unknown". >> eg >> You can see this with the following minimal example. These two files >> are apparently identical. One has soft spaces and loads, the other >> hard spaces and gives the out of memory message. >> http://rickman.orpheusweb.co.uk/temp/softspc.html >> http://rickman.orpheusweb.co.uk/temp/hardspc.html >> Each file contain one line only : >> > Both work OK in #574. RO 5.18, Iyonix. feathers in caps all round for the NS team - thanks -- John - http://mug.riscos.org/
Re: NetSurf running out of memory
On 3 Nov, John Rickman Iyonix wrote: [snip] > Not so with the links I reported unfortunately. They still fail on > #571. > However the message has changed from "out of memory to "unknown". > eg > You can see this with the following minimal example. These two files > are apparently identical. One has soft spaces and loads, the other > hard spaces and gives the out of memory message. > http://rickman.orpheusweb.co.uk/temp/softspc.html > http://rickman.orpheusweb.co.uk/temp/hardspc.html > Each file contain one line only : > Both work OK in #574. RO 5.18, Iyonix. -- Brian Howlett - He's fallen in the water!
Re: NetSurf running out of memory
Brian Jordan wrote > In message > Brian Jordan wrote: >> The page shown at www.bjordan.org.uk/test/index.html has started >> throwing up a "NetSurf is running out of memory" error since at least >> NetSurf 3.0 (Dev CI#471) and up to 492. ... > Somewhere between #540 and #570 this has been fixed and the page now > loads in Netsurf as it did in 2.9 with no error message. Not so with the links I reported unfortunately. They still fail on #571. However the message has changed from "out of memory to "unknown". eg You can see this with the following minimal example. These two files are apparently identical. One has soft spaces and loads, the other hard spaces and gives the out of memory message. http://rickman.orpheusweb.co.uk/temp/softspc.html http://rickman.orpheusweb.co.uk/temp/hardspc.html Each file contain one line only : -- John - http://mug.riscos.org/
Re: NetSurf running out of memory
In message Brian Jordan wrote: > The page shown at www.bjordan.org.uk/test/index.html has started > throwing up a "NetSurf is running out of memory" error since at least > NetSurf 3.0 (Dev CI#471) and up to 492. [snip] Somewhere between #540 and #570 this has been fixed and the page now loads in Netsurf as it did in 2.9 with no error message. With thanks to the developers -- Brian Jordan Virtual RPC-AdjustSA RISC OS 6.20
Re: NetSurf running out of memory
In message <20121017132553.gb4...@pepperfish.net> Rob Kendrick wrote: > On Wed, Oct 17, 2012 at 01:14:07PM +0100, Brian Jordan wrote: >> This is a report on the behaviour of recent test releases of NetSurf >> showing an inconsistency with what has gone before and with mainstream >> browsers. I would have expected a complaint about the content more >> than a warning about memory availability in this case. > Please see my reply on the 8th of October on a thread with similar > subject to this. My apologies, I missed that message. -- Brian Jordan
Re: NetSurf running out of memory
On Wed, Oct 17, 2012 at 01:14:07PM +0100, Brian Jordan wrote: > This is a report on the behaviour of recent test releases of NetSurf > showing an inconsistency with what has gone before and with mainstream > browsers. I would have expected a complaint about the content more > than a warning about memory availability in this case. Please see my reply on the 8th of October on a thread with similar subject to this. B.
Re: NetSurf running out of memory
In message <52e00f1fc2ch...@chris-johnson.org.uk> cj wrote: > In article , >Brian Jordan wrote: >> The page shown at www.bjordan.org.uk/test/index.html has started >> throwing up a "NetSurf is running out of memory" error since at >> least NetSurf 3.0 (Dev CI#471) and up to 492. > If the first two lines > $zonkpage 1.35 > $usetemplate:.tpl.level1/tpl > are removed then it loads fine. These lines don't look like valid > html to me. This is what I intended to indicate in the explanatory paragraph, "In fairness the file is a data file..." This is a report on the behaviour of recent test releases of NetSurf showing an inconsistency with what has gone before and with mainstream browsers. I would have expected a complaint about the content more than a warning about memory availability in this case. -- Brian Jordan
Re: NetSurf running out of memory
In article , Brian Jordan wrote: > The page shown at www.bjordan.org.uk/test/index.html has started > throwing up a "NetSurf is running out of memory" error since at > least NetSurf 3.0 (Dev CI#471) and up to 492. If the first two lines $zonkpage 1.35 $usetemplate:.tpl.level1/tpl are removed then it loads fine. These lines don't look like valid html to me. -- Chris Johnson
NetSurf running out of memory
The page shown at www.bjordan.org.uk/test/index.html has started throwing up a "NetSurf is running out of memory" error since at least NetSurf 3.0 (Dev CI#471) and up to 492. In fairness the file is a data file named as .html and RISC OS file typed as HTML; it is prepared for use in a program which later adds it to a template file to produce a valid page. The file contains valid HTML and for many years I have been able to open it in NetSurf as part of the editing process. It opens as expected in NetSurf 2.9 and in the main Windows browsers and is available in a .zip file at www.bjordan.org.uk/test/test.zip -- Brian Jordan Virtual RPC-AdjustSA RISC OS 6.20
Re: NetSurf running out of memory
Rob Kendrick wrote > The "out of memory" error almost never means you're out of memory. It's > just caused by the vagueries of how some parts of NetSurf handle errors > and other parts not being expressive enough. > Yes, we're working on that, too. I have tracked down the cause of at least some of the "out of memory" errors that I have been getting. They are being caused by hard spaces (&A0) which have crept into my html instead of spaces (&20). You can see this with the following minimal example. These two files are apparently identical. One has soft spaces and loads, the other hard spaces and gives the out of memory message. http://rickman.orpheusweb.co.uk/temp/softspc.html http://rickman.orpheusweb.co.uk/temp/hardspc.html The files contain the following text only : Should I update the NetSurf bugs list? -- John - http://mug.riscos.org/
Re: NetSurf running out of memory
On Mon, Oct 08, 2012 at 05:28:36PM +0100, george greenfield wrote: > In message <52db7f27eap...@sprie.nl> > Paul Sprangers wrote: > > > > >> click on: http://rickman.orpheusweb.co.uk/kinder.htm > > This one opens OK. > > > >> http://rickman.orpheusweb.co.uk/temp/songaf.html > > But this one doesn't. Quitting and reloading NetSurf to liberate > memory makes no odds. The amount of memory claimed is not excessive; > 6800k and 5632k for application tasks and dynamic areas respectively. The "out of memory" error almost never means you're out of memory. It's just caused by the vagueries of how some parts of NetSurf handle errors and other parts not being expressive enough. Yes, we're working on that, too. B.
Re: NetSurf running out of memory
In message <52db7f27eap...@sprie.nl> Paul Sprangers wrote: > >> click on: http://rickman.orpheusweb.co.uk/kinder.htm This one opens OK. > >> http://rickman.orpheusweb.co.uk/temp/songaf.html But this one doesn't. Quitting and reloading NetSurf to liberate memory makes no odds. The amount of memory claimed is not excessive; 6800k and 5632k for application tasks and dynamic areas respectively. > [snipped] My details: NS-2012-10-07_21-57-22, RPCEmu089/RO4.02, Win7 (64-bit). george -- george greenfield
Re: NetSurf running out of memory
In article <20121008152518.gf28...@pepperfish.net>, Rob Kendrick wrote: > On Mon, Oct 08, 2012 at 05:23:38PM +0200, Paul Sprangers wrote: > > NetSurf 3.0 (Development) > Please avoid using this as a version number. It refers to any one of > perhaps thousands of builds. Yeah, it could be any non-release build since April 2009. -- Michael Drake (tlsa) http://www.netsurf-browser.org/
Re: NetSurf running out of memory
On Mon, Oct 08, 2012 at 05:23:38PM +0200, Paul Sprangers wrote: > NetSurf 3.0 (Development) Please avoid using this as a version number. It refers to any one of perhaps thousands of builds. We're working on having a uniquely-identifyable smallish number in the Info box and in about:testiment B.
Re: NetSurf running out of memory
> click on: http://rickman.orpheusweb.co.uk/kinder.htm > http://rickman.orpheusweb.co.uk/temp/songaf.html Both pages generate an out of memory error as reported by others. NetSurf 3.0 (Development) Iyonix 5.18, 512 Mb Kind regards, Paul Sprangers -- http://www.riscos.sprie.nl
Re: NetSurf running out of memory
In article <5e3e71db52.a...@ntlworld.com>, Alan Leighton wrote: > In message <409167db52.iyoj...@rickman.argonet.co.uk> > John Rickman Iyonix wrote: > > Alan Leighton wrote > snip > >> I tried it out and had no problems and that is odd for me ;-) > > Thanks Alan, > > That is curious. Are you using Iyonix 5.18? > Yes > > Could you confirm that > > http://rickman.orpheusweb.co.uk/temp/songaf.html > > which also gives me an out of memory message works for you? > It is fine Fine here with 2.9 but got "Out of memory" message with netsurf-2012-10-08_10-50-07 RiscPC 700 Adjust 4.39 with Unipod -- Chris
Re: NetSurf running out of memory
In message <52db678f08ch...@chris-johnson.org.uk> cj wrote: > In article <4b6565db52.iyoj...@rickman.argonet.co.uk>, >John Rickman Iyonix wrote: >> If someone can confirm that this is not unique to my setup I will post >> a bug report. > Happens here with a 2012-10-06 build. Dev) Mine is (23 Mar 2012 23:00) r13571 Alan --
Re: NetSurf running out of memory
Alan Leighton wrote >> Could you confirm that >> http://rickman.orpheusweb.co.uk/temp/songaf.html >> which also gives me an out of memory message works for you? > It is fine Thanks - what hardware/software are you using? -- John - http://mug.riscos.org/
Re: NetSurf running out of memory
In message <409167db52.iyoj...@rickman.argonet.co.uk> John Rickman Iyonix wrote: > Alan Leighton wrote snip >> I tried it out and had no problems and that is odd for me ;-) > Thanks Alan, > That is curious. Are you using Iyonix 5.18? Yes > Could you confirm that > http://rickman.orpheusweb.co.uk/temp/songaf.html > which also gives me an out of memory message works for you? It is fine Alan --
Re: NetSurf running out of memory
In message <4b6565db52.iyoj...@rickman.argonet.co.uk> John Rickman Iyonix wrote: > > I have hit three more pages that give the out of memory message using > the latest test version (netsurf-2012-10-07_21-57-22/zip) > > click on: http://rickman.orpheusweb.co.uk/kinder.htm > > This will show a page of images. > Click on either the bicycle or the kayak and (on my Iyonix running > 5.18) a warning message pops up saying that NetSurf is running out of > memory and the URL is not displayed. > > If someone can confirm that this is not unique to my setup I will post > a bug report. > No problem with memory here. The site links work also. Memory use ((NS-2012-10-07_21-57-22, RPCEmu089/RO4.02, Win7 (64-bit) for NetSurf is 6816k (application tasks) and 22208k (dynamic areas). George -- george greenfield
Re: NetSurf running out of memory
Alan Leighton wrote > John Rickman Iyonix wrote: >> I have hit three more pages that give the out of memory message using >> the latest test version (netsurf-2012-10-07_21-57-22/zip) >> click on: http://rickman.orpheusweb.co.uk/kinder.htm >> This will show a page of images. >> Click on either the bicycle or the kayak and (on my Iyonix running >> 5.18) a warning message pops up saying that NetSurf is running out of >> memory and the URL is not displayed. >> If someone can confirm that this is not unique to my setup I will post >> a bug report. > I tried it out and had no problems and that is odd for me ;-) Thanks Alan, That is curious. Are you using Iyonix 5.18? Could you confirm that http://rickman.orpheusweb.co.uk/temp/songaf.html which also gives me an out of memory message works for you? -- John - http://mug.riscos.org/
Re: NetSurf running out of memory
In article <53db66db52.pnyo...@pnyoung.ormail.co.uk>, Peter Young wrote: > On 8 Oct 2012 John Rickman Iyonix wrote: > > I have hit three more pages that give the out of memory message using > > the latest test version (netsurf-2012-10-07_21-57-22/zip) > > click on: http://rickman.orpheusweb.co.uk/kinder.htm > > This will show a page of images. > > Click on either the bicycle or the kayak and (on my Iyonix running > > 5.18) a warning message pops up saying that NetSurf is running out of > > memory and the URL is not displayed. > > If someone can confirm that this is not unique to my setup I will post > > a bug report. > Yes, it does that here too, ARMini, RISC OS 5.19 and the latest > test-build. And here. RiscPC 700 Adjust 4.39 netsurf-2012-10-08_10-50-07 -- Chris
Re: NetSurf running out of memory
In article <4b6565db52.iyoj...@rickman.argonet.co.uk>, John Rickman Iyonix wrote: > If someone can confirm that this is not unique to my setup I will post > a bug report. Happens here with a 2012-10-06 build. -- Chris Johnson
Re: NetSurf running out of memory
On 8 Oct 2012 John Rickman Iyonix wrote: > I have hit three more pages that give the out of memory message using > the latest test version (netsurf-2012-10-07_21-57-22/zip) > click on: http://rickman.orpheusweb.co.uk/kinder.htm > This will show a page of images. > Click on either the bicycle or the kayak and (on my Iyonix running > 5.18) a warning message pops up saying that NetSurf is running out of > memory and the URL is not displayed. > If someone can confirm that this is not unique to my setup I will post > a bug report. Yes, it does that here too, ARMini, RISC OS 5.19 and the latest test-build. With best wishes, Peter. -- Peter \ / zfc Ta \ Prestbury, Cheltenham, Glos. GL52 and \/ ____ \ England. family / / \ | | |\ | / _ \ http://pnyoung.orpheusweb.co.uk / \__/ \_/ | \| \__/ \__ pnyo...@ormail.co.uk
Re: NetSurf running out of memory
In message <4b6565db52.iyoj...@rickman.argonet.co.uk> John Rickman Iyonix wrote: > I have hit three more pages that give the out of memory message using > the latest test version (netsurf-2012-10-07_21-57-22/zip) > click on: http://rickman.orpheusweb.co.uk/kinder.htm > This will show a page of images. > Click on either the bicycle or the kayak and (on my Iyonix running > 5.18) a warning message pops up saying that NetSurf is running out of > memory and the URL is not displayed. > If someone can confirm that this is not unique to my setup I will post > a bug report. I tried it out and had no problems and that is odd for me ;-) Alan --
NetSurf running out of memory
I have hit three more pages that give the out of memory message using the latest test version (netsurf-2012-10-07_21-57-22/zip) click on: http://rickman.orpheusweb.co.uk/kinder.htm This will show a page of images. Click on either the bicycle or the kayak and (on my Iyonix running 5.18) a warning message pops up saying that NetSurf is running out of memory and the URL is not displayed. If someone can confirm that this is not unique to my setup I will post a bug report. -- John Rickman - http://mug.riscos.org/
Netsurf Running Out of Memory
In article <1325633409.3667.8.camel@duiker>, John-Mark Bell wrote: > On Mon, 2012-01-02 at 18:08 +, Dave Symes wrote: > > Does Netsurf log any private details, like accounts numbers and > > passwords? > Not deliberately. If in doubt, search the log file for likely things. > Alternatively, if the log file contains anything like Harriet quoted, > there's no need to send it to me, as the issue is likely fixed in > r13365. > John-Mark. Thanks, I'll keep that in mind... Just downloaded and installed r13373 (03 Jan 23:45) and had a run around the LTSB bank site and it appears the problem is indeed sorted. Thanks Dave -- Dave Triffid
Re: Netsurf Running Out of Memory
On Mon, 2012-01-02 at 18:08 +, Dave Symes wrote: > Does Netsurf log any private details, like accounts numbers and passwords? Not deliberately. If in doubt, search the log file for likely things. Alternatively, if the log file contains anything like Harriet quoted, there's no need to send it to me, as the issue is likely fixed in r13365. John-Mark.
Re: Netsurf Running Out of Memory
On 2 Jan 2012 as I do recall, John-Mark Bell wrote: > On Sat, 2011-12-31 at 12:36 +, Dave Symes wrote: > > On 31 Dec, d...@triffid.co.uk wrote: > > [Snippy] > > > How interesting Brian, I was about to write up a note and post it when > > > your posting arrived... > > > We had the very same problem with LloydsTSB a few day ago, so we updated > > > to version r13351 (27 Dec 2011) but the memory problem persists. > > > That's on SARPCs one with Select 4.39 and this one with 6.20. > > > > > Anyone else had the return of this old problem? > > > > > Dave > > > > Should have mentioned, I still have the log fron a LTSB visit earlier > > today. > > Please send it to me. > I have a log of a session during which this (on www.burdastyle.com not infrequent, but apparently here always benign) error message occurs, although with no other ill-effects: it seems to be related to cookies - which would explain why it only ever occurs when logged-in - since the relevant section reads (544.30) riscos/bitmap.c bitmap_maintain 813: Performing maintenance. (544.31) desktop/cookies.c cookies_create_cookie_node 271: malloc failed (544.31) riscos/gui.c warn_user 2301: NoMemory (null) I'm not clear if we're talking about the same problem here as that evinced on the bank sites. Would you like this log as well? -- Harriet Bazley == Loyaulte me lie == He who always ploughs a straight furrow is in a rut.
Re: Netsurf Running Out of Memory
In article <1325506714.17735.9.camel@duiker>, John-Mark Bell wrote: > On Sat, 2011-12-31 at 12:36 +, Dave Symes wrote: > > On 31 Dec, d...@triffid.co.uk wrote: > > [Snippy] > > > How interesting Brian, I was about to write up a note and post it > > > when your posting arrived... We had the very same problem with > > > LloydsTSB a few day ago, so we updated to version r13351 (27 Dec > > > 2011) but the memory problem persists. That's on SARPCs one with > > > Select 4.39 and this one with 6.20. > > > > > Anyone else had the return of this old problem? > > > > > Dave > > > > Should have mentioned, I still have the log fron a LTSB visit earlier > > today. > Please send it to me. > John-Mark. J-M, Fay's asked me to ask a question before I send the log file which was out of Her machine. Does Netsurf log any private details, like accounts numbers and passwords? Fair question on her part I guess... As I have no idea. Thanks Dave -- Dave Triffid
Re: Netsurf Running Out of Memory
On Sat, 2011-12-31 at 12:36 +, Dave Symes wrote: > On 31 Dec, d...@triffid.co.uk wrote: > [Snippy] > > How interesting Brian, I was about to write up a note and post it when > > your posting arrived... > > We had the very same problem with LloydsTSB a few day ago, so we updated > > to version r13351 (27 Dec 2011) but the memory problem persists. > > That's on SARPCs one with Select 4.39 and this one with 6.20. > > > Anyone else had the return of this old problem? > > > Dave > > Should have mentioned, I still have the log fron a LTSB visit earlier > today. Please send it to me. John-Mark.
Re: Netsurf Running Out of Memory
On 31 Dec 2011 Dave Symes wrote: > Anyone else had the return of this old problem? Yes, I had it with anoter site - I don't use Lloyds TSB. It could have been amazon.co.uk. -- Richard Porterhttp://www.minijem.plus.com/ mailto:r...@minijem.plus.com I don't want a "user experience" - I just want stuff that works.
Re: Netsurf Running Out of Memory
In message <4c53434a52.davehig...@dsl.pipex.com> Dave Higton wrote: > In message <524a355236d...@triffid.co.uk> > Dave Symes wrote: >> In article , >>Brian wrote: >>> Hello >>> Using Netsurf r 13320 and only accessing one website today I had a >>> dialogue box from Netsurf saying it was running out of memory. >> >>> I went to the online page at Bank of Scotland: >>> https://online.bankofscotland.co.uk/personal/logon/login.jsp >> >>> It does then go to a mobile site version which works fine with Netsurf >>> or you can go back to the desktop site. >> >>> Immediately, a Cookie confirmation box comes up which is fine,but this >>> happens everytime.After you accept it, the hard drive is being >>> accessed continuously, then after one ot two clicks on the webpage it >>> reports that memory is running out. >> >>> Regards. >>> Brian >> >> How interesting Brian, I was about to write up a note and post it when >> your posting arrived... >> We had the very same problem with LloydsTSB a few day ago, so we updated >> to version r13351 (27 Dec 2011) but the memory problem persists. >> That's on SARPCs one with Select 4.39 and this one with 6.20. >> >> Anyone else had the return of this old problem? > Yes, I had it yesterday with r13344 on the first web site I opened > - but I can't remember which site it was. Happened to me just before Xmas Dave r13344 too. Happy new year Alan --
Re: Netsurf Running Out of Memory
In message <524a355236d...@triffid.co.uk> Dave Symes wrote: > In article , >Brian wrote: > > Hello > > Using Netsurf r 13320 and only accessing one website today I had a > > dialogue box from Netsurf saying it was running out of memory. > > > I went to the online page at Bank of Scotland: > > https://online.bankofscotland.co.uk/personal/logon/login.jsp > > > It does then go to a mobile site version which works fine with Netsurf > > or you can go back to the desktop site. > > > Immediately, a Cookie confirmation box comes up which is fine,but this > > happens everytime.After you accept it, the hard drive is being > > accessed continuously, then after one ot two clicks on the webpage it > > reports that memory is running out. > > > Regards. > > Brian > > How interesting Brian, I was about to write up a note and post it when > your posting arrived... > We had the very same problem with LloydsTSB a few day ago, so we updated > to version r13351 (27 Dec 2011) but the memory problem persists. > That's on SARPCs one with Select 4.39 and this one with 6.20. > > Anyone else had the return of this old problem? Yes, I had it yesterday with r13344 on the first web site I opened - but I can't remember which site it was. Dave
Re: Netsurf Running Out of Memory
On 31 Dec, d...@triffid.co.uk wrote: [Snippy] > How interesting Brian, I was about to write up a note and post it when > your posting arrived... > We had the very same problem with LloydsTSB a few day ago, so we updated > to version r13351 (27 Dec 2011) but the memory problem persists. > That's on SARPCs one with Select 4.39 and this one with 6.20. > Anyone else had the return of this old problem? > Dave Should have mentioned, I still have the log fron a LTSB visit earlier today. Dave -- Dave Triffid
Re: Netsurf Running Out of Memory
In article , Brian wrote: > Hello > Using Netsurf r 13320 and only accessing one website today I had a > dialogue box from Netsurf saying it was running out of memory. > I went to the online page at Bank of Scotland: > https://online.bankofscotland.co.uk/personal/logon/login.jsp > It does then go to a mobile site version which works fine with Netsurf > or you can go back to the desktop site. > Immediately, a Cookie confirmation box comes up which is fine,but this > happens everytime.After you accept it, the hard drive is being > accessed continuously, then after one ot two clicks on the webpage it > reports that memory is running out. > Regards. > Brian How interesting Brian, I was about to write up a note and post it when your posting arrived... We had the very same problem with LloydsTSB a few day ago, so we updated to version r13351 (27 Dec 2011) but the memory problem persists. That's on SARPCs one with Select 4.39 and this one with 6.20. Anyone else had the return of this old problem? Dave -- Dave Triffid
Netsurf Running Out of Memory
Hello Using Netsurf r 13320 and only accessing one website today I had a dialogue box from Netsurf saying it was running out of memory. I went to the online page at Bank of Scotland: https://online.bankofscotland.co.uk/personal/logon/login.jsp It does then go to a mobile site version which works fine with Netsurf or you can go back to the desktop site. Immediately, a Cookie confirmation box comes up which is fine,but this happens everytime.After you accept it, the hard drive is being accessed continuously, then after one ot two clicks on the webpage it reports that memory is running out. Regards. Brian -- Check out Brian's pics at: www.flickr.com/photos/httpflickrcomphotosbrian
