Re: Netsurf on Amiga 68k

[Chris Young]

> 1) It keeps using he chip RAM to display pages and that is a
> problem...even if for some reason I did manage to upgrade my CHIP
> RAM to 2 MB from 1 MB...it is insufficient to view any website with
> such limited RAM. Is it possible page viewing consume FAST RAM and
> not CHIP RAM at all?

No, certain things have to be in Chip RAM for the chipset to access
them.  The tile rendering area is one of these, and that's why it's
set to a small size by default.

You can try saving some Chip RAM by using "simple refresh" windows
(Prefs=>Display) or setting Cache native versions to "None" (Rendering
tab)

> 2) I keep receiving SSL Certification error message and if I click
> accept it freezes and the page does not load and it keeps popping
> hundreds more of the certification ssl error and I am forced to
> restart Amiga. If I reject it...it freezes or the page is not viewed

Not seen this one, I've have a look.

> Oh..a third problem...when I exit netsurf it sometimes crashes with
> 04 at the end.

Have heard about this but not seen it myself and without any debug
info I can't do much about it.

Please can you raise this on the bugtracker with a log attached:
netsurf -v >ram:ns.log

That might give a bit of a clue as to what is making it crash, and
gives some visibility of the problem.  I can add more logging if it
doesn't narrow it down enough.

Bugtracker is at http://bugs.netsurf-browser.org

Ta
Chris

Re: Netsurf on Amiga 68k

[Fahed al daye]

Thank you for the link. Your advice works 100%. There are just couple of
two issues to report...

1) It keeps using he chip RAM to display pages and that is a problem...even
if for some reason I did manage to upgrade my CHIP RAM to 2 MB from 1
MB...it is insufficient to view any website with such limited RAM. Is it
possible page viewing consume FAST RAM and not CHIP RAM at all?

2) I keep receiving SSL Certification error message and if I click accept
it freezes and the page does not load and it keeps popping hundreds more of
the certification ssl error and I am forced to restart Amiga. If I reject
it...it freezes or the page is not viewed

Oh..a third problem...when I exit netsurf it sometimes crashes with 04
at the end.

On Tue, Aug 30, 2016 at 11:34 AM, Chris Young <
chris.yo...@unsatisfactorysoftware.co.uk> wrote:

> On Tue, 30 Aug 2016 11:27:02 -0700, Fahed al daye wrote:
>
> > In that case...is it possible then you can send me the latest version
> > of netsurf by link? I want to try this again.
>
> http://cy2.uk/netsurfos3
>
> That's always the latest build until CI is up and running.
>
> Chris
>
>


-- 
Yours truly,
Fahed Al Daye

Re: Netsurf on Amiga 68k

[Chris Young]

On Tue, 30 Aug 2016 11:27:02 -0700, Fahed al daye wrote:

> In that case...is it possible then you can send me the latest version
> of netsurf by link? I want to try this again.

http://cy2.uk/netsurfos3

That's always the latest build until CI is up and running.

Chris

Re: Netsurf on Amiga 68k

[Fahed al daye]

In that case...is it possible then you can send me the latest version
of netsurf by link? I want to try this again.

On 8/30/16, Chris Young  wrote:
> On Mon, 29 Aug 2016 17:13:08 -0700, Fahed al daye wrote:
>
>> The redraw_tile_size_x and y made no difference.
>
> Please reply to the list, not directly to me.
>
> If you visit about:config does it show the correct values for these
> options?  Did you set them whilst NetSurf was running? (it won't pick
> them up until the next launch, and may overwrite the file in the
> meantime)
>
> Chris
>
>


-- 
Yours truly,
Fahed Al Daye

Re: Netsurf on Amiga 68k

[Chris Young]

On Mon, 29 Aug 2016 17:13:08 -0700, Fahed al daye wrote:

> The redraw_tile_size_x and y made no difference.

Please reply to the list, not directly to me.

If you visit about:config does it show the correct values for these
options?  Did you set them whilst NetSurf was running? (it won't pick
them up until the next launch, and may overwrite the file in the
meantime)

Chris

Re: Netsurf on Amiga 68k

[Chris Young]

On Sun, 28 Aug 2016 11:45:23 -0700, Fahed al daye wrote:

> I have this annoying issue with the current Netsurf for the Amiga 68k
> in that lots of websites returns with this annoying error "Unable to
> fetch document." My understanding this is the cause because of
> timeout.

There are various timeout settings that can be set in your Choices
file, I doubt tha's actually the problem but without a log file
(netsurf -v >ram:ns.log) it's impossible to know.

> Also another issue when
> viewing pages, it open them in tile 100 by 100 and this is annoying
> and unpleasurable is there anyone this can be fixed?

redraw_tile_size_x and redraw_tile_size_y in Choices
(users/default/choices) will set the tile sizes.  This is detailed in
the netsurf.guide under Options file.

Chris

Netsurf on Amiga 68k

[Fahed al daye]

  Hey,

I have this annoying issue with the current Netsurf for the Amiga 68k
in that lots of websites returns with this annoying error "Unable to
fetch document." My understanding this is the cause because of
timeout. Is there anyone this can be fixed. Also another issue when
viewing pages, it open them in tile 100 by 100 and this is annoying
and unpleasurable is there anyone this can be fixed?

Other questions to ask. Will there be in the future support for html5
that will allow gmail to be opened in full html5 mode and not in
classical mode? Will we be able to run html5 games or view html5
movies just fine? My understanding is that the hardware spec is too
inferior for this. Can you make two versions...one that works fine on
classic Amiga (with Vampire installed) and others on WinUAE where
hardware power is no longer a factor?

The one for WinUAE will have full functioning power both RAM, speed
and EVEN RTG to be able to run the latest FireFox...so it should be
able to run the heavy require minimum 500 MB of RAM NetSurf that
supports lots of the bells and whistles.

I know the common sense logical question...why? What is the purpose?
What is the point? I will answer it by thisinstead of waiting for
a hardware to become strong enough to port this...we have the software
already build and ready for the 68k Amiga that...all it takes is
having a more powerful hardware. This way, the hurdle of having a
software or someone programming is...is all over...because the
software is simply waiting for the hardware to catch up which is
easier than the otherway around.

Please can someone consider?

-- 
Yours truly,
Fahed Al Daye