Re: New Netsurf - improved Javascript stability

2015-10-05 Thread Jim Nagel
> On 2015-Sep-29 Jim Nagel  wrote:
> [snip]
>> I'm on #2935 (Aug 25) and have been suffering a great many sites that
>> time out with no display at all.  Sometimes hourglassing goes on
>> forever and there's nothing for it but Alt-Break to kill Netsurf.
>> Some of these cases will succeed if I relaunch Netsurf, switch off
>> Javascript from its iconbar menu, and only then reload the site.

Harriet Bazley  wrote on 4 Oct:
> Can't you just switch off JavaScript and reload the page without having to
> restart Netsurf?   That's always worked for me.

You're right.  Your revelation simplifies it a bit for me.


> (Still on 2817 to avoid auto-JavaScript-start-up)

I'm on #2968 now, after Vincent Sanders (thanks!) improved something 
as a result of a particular site I reported.

Steve Fryatt posted links in this thread to the Netsurf team's 
explanations of why they have configured Javascript to be on by 
default:  they WANT to receive reports of problem sites so that they 
can refine their code.  So thanks again, Vincent!

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Re: New Netsurf - improved Javascript stability

2015-10-04 Thread Harriet Bazley
On 29 Sep 2015 as I do recall,
  Jim Nagel  wrote:

[snip]


> I'm on #2935 (Aug 25) and have been suffering a great many sites that
> time out with no display at all.  Sometimes hourglassing goes on
> forever and there's nothing for it but Alt-Break to kill Netsurf.
> Some of these cases will succeed if I relaunch Netsurf, switch off
> Javascript from its iconbar menu, and only then reload the site.

Can't you just switch off JavaScript and reload the page without having to
restart Netsurf?   That's always worked for me.

(Still on 2817 to avoid auto-JavaScript-start-up)


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Re: New Netsurf - improved Javascript stability

2015-09-29 Thread george greenfield
In message <550abce24acvj...@waitrose.com>
  Chris Newman  wrote:

> In article ,
>Jim Nagel  wrote:
>> Dave Higton  wrote on 21 Sep:
> 
>> > I downloaded the latest CI build of NS yesterday.  There hasn't been
>> > one for quite a while.  I noticed that it doesn't crash when opening a
>> > sport page of the BBC News website, for example.  This is a big
>> > improvement.
>> > I think we're seeing evidence of big changes within Netsurf.
> 
>> Anybody concur?
> 
>> I'm on #2935 (Aug 25) and have been suffering a great many sites that
>> time out with no display at all.  Sometimes hourglassing goes on
>> forever and there's nothing for it but Alt-Break to kill Netsurf.
>> Some of these cases will succeed if I relaunch Netsurf, switch off
>> Javascript from its iconbar menu, and only then reload the site.
> 
> Same here with #2964
> 
I recently upgraded to #2964 from #2953 and AFAICS the 
javascript-enabled behaviour and functionality* is identical in both, 
and I too have the endless hourglassing behaviour unless JS is 
disabled. I don't mean to be downbeat or decry the efforts of the 
developers - NetSurf is a fine lightweight browser, better than any 
RISC OS alternative that I've tried**, and no doubt the developers 
would be the first to agree that javascript functionality is very much 
a work in progress.

(* virtually non-existent)
(** that doesn't include the recent Otter port)

-- 
George



Re: New Netsurf - improved Javascript stability

2015-09-29 Thread Chris Newman
In article ,
   Jim Nagel  wrote:
> Dave Higton  wrote on 21 Sep:

> > I downloaded the latest CI build of NS yesterday.  There hasn't been
> > one for quite a while.  I noticed that it doesn't crash when opening a
> > sport page of the BBC News website, for example.  This is a big
> > improvement.
> > I think we're seeing evidence of big changes within Netsurf.

> Anybody concur?

> I'm on #2935 (Aug 25) and have been suffering a great many sites that 
> time out with no display at all.  Sometimes hourglassing goes on 
> forever and there's nothing for it but Alt-Break to kill Netsurf.  
> Some of these cases will succeed if I relaunch Netsurf, switch off 
> Javascript from its iconbar menu, and only then reload the site.

Same here with #2964

-- 
Chris



Re: New Netsurf - improved Javascript stability

2015-09-29 Thread Dave Higton
On Tue, 29 Sep 2015 13:39:02 +0100 Jim Nagel wrote:

> Dave Higton  wrote on 21 Sep:
> 
>> I downloaded the latest CI build of NS yesterday.  There hasn't been
>> one for quite a while.  I noticed that it doesn't crash when opening a
>> sport page of the BBC News website, for example.  This is a big
>> improvement.
>> I think we're seeing evidence of big changes within Netsurf.
> 
> Anybody concur?
> 
> I'm on #2935 (Aug 25) and have been suffering a great many sites that
> time out with no display at all.  Sometimes hourglassing goes on
> forever and there's nothing for it but Alt-Break to kill Netsurf.
> Some of these cases will succeed if I relaunch Netsurf, switch off
> Javascript from its iconbar menu, and only then reload the site.

I still get that, yes.

Dave


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Re: New Netsurf - improved Javascript stability

2015-09-29 Thread Jim Nagel
Dave Higton  wrote on 21 Sep:

> I downloaded the latest CI build of NS yesterday.  There hasn't been
> one for quite a while.  I noticed that it doesn't crash when opening a
> sport page of the BBC News website, for example.  This is a big
> improvement.
> I think we're seeing evidence of big changes within Netsurf.

Anybody concur?

I'm on #2935 (Aug 25) and have been suffering a great many sites that 
time out with no display at all.  Sometimes hourglassing goes on 
forever and there's nothing for it but Alt-Break to kill Netsurf.  
Some of these cases will succeed if I relaunch Netsurf, switch off 
Javascript from its iconbar menu, and only then reload the site.


-- 
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|| See you at the show?  www.riscoslondonshow.co.uk  October 24




New Netsurf - improved Javascript stability

2015-09-21 Thread Dave Higton
I downloaded the latest CI build of NS yesterday.  There hasn't been one
for quite a while.  I noticed that it doesn't crash when opening a sport
page of the BBC News website, for example.  This is a big improvement.

I think we're seeing evidence of big changes within Netsurf.

Dave


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