Re: Please test the latest build

2022-11-05 Thread Brian Jordan
In article ,
   Michael Drake  wrote:

> Please could you test the latest builds (5377 or later) from:

>   https://ci.netsurf-browser.org/builds/

[Snip]

#5378 now running here.

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Re: Please test the latest build

2022-11-04 Thread Chris Young
Hi Michael

AmigaOS 4 build 5380 appears to be working well.

Regards
Chris


On Thu, 3 Nov 2022 at 10:09, Michael Drake  wrote:

> Hello,
>
> Please could you test the latest builds (5377 or later) from:
>
>   https://ci.netsurf-browser.org/builds/
>
> Particularly please test the Amiga OS4 and RISC OS builds as
> we have updated the versions of 3rd party libraries that we
> build against. Amiga OS4 builds have had about 3 years worth
> of updates and RISC OS builds about 1.5 years.
>
> In addition we have patched the version of libcurl we build
> against which should make HTTPS connections much faster for
> the RISC OS and Amiga OS4 builds.
>
> Best regards,
>
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Re: Please test the latest build

2022-11-03 Thread David Higton
In message 
  Michael Drake  wrote:

> Hello,
> 
> Please could you test the latest builds (5377 or later) from:
> 
>  https://ci.netsurf-browser.org/builds/
> 
> Particularly please test the Amiga OS4 and RISC OS builds as we have
> updated the versions of 3rd party libraries that we build against. Amiga
> OS4 builds have had about 3 years worth of updates and RISC OS builds about
> 1.5 years.
> 
> In addition we have patched the version of libcurl we build against which
> should make HTTPS connections much faster for the RISC OS and Amiga OS4
> builds.

I'm running 5378 atm, and with the admittedly shallow testing I've done
so far, it seems to work everywhere that earlier versions did, and I
share the impression that it's noticeably quicker when loading e.g. the
ROOL site.

David
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Re: Please test the latest build

2022-11-03 Thread Dave
In article ,
   Michael Drake  wrote:
> Hello,

> Please could you test the latest builds (5377 or later) from:

>   https://ci.netsurf-browser.org/builds/

> Particularly please test the Amiga OS4 and RISC OS builds as
> we have updated the versions of 3rd party libraries that we
> build against. Amiga OS4 builds have had about 3 years worth
> of updates and RISC OS builds about 1.5 years.

> In addition we have patched the version of libcurl we build
> against which should make HTTPS connections much faster for
> the RISC OS and Amiga OS4 builds.

> Best regards,

Just done a few things online with Netsurf 5378, no problems...

Dave

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Re: Please test the latest build

2022-11-03 Thread John Rickman
In message 
  Michael Drake  wrote:

> Hello,

> Please could you test the latest builds (5377 or later) from:

>   https://ci.netsurf-browser.org/builds/

> Particularly please test the Amiga OS4 and RISC OS builds as
> we have updated the versions of 3rd party libraries that we
> build against. Amiga OS4 builds have had about 3 years worth
> of updates and RISC OS builds about 1.5 years.

> In addition we have patched the version of libcurl we build
> against which should make HTTPS connections much faster for
> the RISC OS and Amiga OS4 builds.

installed - seems to be more responsive

John



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Re: Please test the latest build

2022-11-03 Thread Richard Porter
On 3 Nov 2022 Michael Drake  wrote:

> Please could you test the latest builds (5377 or later) from:

>   https://ci.netsurf-browser.org/builds/

RISC OS version loaded up!

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Please test the latest build

2022-11-03 Thread Michael Drake
Hello,

Please could you test the latest builds (5377 or later) from:

  https://ci.netsurf-browser.org/builds/

Particularly please test the Amiga OS4 and RISC OS builds as
we have updated the versions of 3rd party libraries that we
build against. Amiga OS4 builds have had about 3 years worth
of updates and RISC OS builds about 1.5 years.

In addition we have patched the version of libcurl we build
against which should make HTTPS connections much faster for
the RISC OS and Amiga OS4 builds.

Best regards,

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Re: Please test webp image format

2020-01-28 Thread John Williams
In article <514e111f-108b-c4aa-b35b-081f9544d...@codethink.co.uk>,
   Michael Drake  wrote:

> So far we've only tested on Linux. Please could users of other
> platforms visit

Dev CI #4947 fixes the colour swapping for me on my original Pi2 and for
David Pitt, who reported elsewhere: 

> Oh dear I can't now get to the Netsurf mailing list with Plusnet's
> webmail.

> I only wanted to report that webp image colours are OK now with #4947.
> Tested on Titanium and RPi3B+. 

John


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Re: Please test webp image format

2019-12-30 Thread Michael Drake
On 28/12/2019 23:48, Chris Young wrote:

> Not working on AmigaOS 4/PPC, just fails to recognise them at all (once 
> I'd remembered to disable my old WebP datatype).

I think the Amiga (and Atari) toolchain builds need to have libwebp
enabled in the SDK.

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Re: Please test webp image format

2019-12-28 Thread Chris Young

On 07/12/2019 13:49, Michael Drake wrote:

Hello,

Recently we added the webp library to our SDK. NetSurf Builds from
our CI should now have webp support.

So far we've only tested on Linux. Please could users of other
platforms visit

https://developers.google.com/speed/webp/gallery1

and let us know if it's working?



Not working on AmigaOS 4/PPC, just fails to recognise them at all (once 
I'd remembered to disable my old WebP datatype).



Chris






Re: Please test webp image format

2019-12-10 Thread Peter Slegg
>
> > So far we've only tested on Linux. Please could users of other
> > platforms visit https://developers.google.com/speed/webp/gallery1


Struggling to test this with Atari build 4950 because 9 times
out of 10 it says:

FetchErrorTitle

An error occurred when connecting to developers.google.com

Failure when receiving data from the peer


Peter






Re: Please test webp image format

2019-12-09 Thread Bernard Boase
On 7 Dec, t...@netsurf-browser.org typed:

> The CI builds are available from here:
> https://ci.netsurf-browser.org/builds/

Don't you mean 'Continuous' on that page's ... ?

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Re: Please test webp image format

2019-12-09 Thread Bernard Boase
On 7 Dec, t...@netsurf-browser.org typed:

> So far we've only tested on Linux. Please could users of other
> platforms visit https://developers.google.com/speed/webp/gallery1

and Wikipedia example WebP file at:
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/b2/Vulphere_WebP_OTAGROOVE_demonstration_2.webp

with RISC OS NetSurf 3.10 (Dev CI #4951) some anomalies:

RISC OS 5.25 ARMX6
Displayed both test page and WebP file(*) okay once. Then some unexplained 
waits with hourglass. Then no further ability to display the WenP data, 
even after reloading NetSurf.

(*) by dragging in the saved file despite its being typed Data. Has a RISC 
OS file type been assigned?

RISC OS 5.24 Iyonix
Displayed test page repeatedly okay. Did not display the file.

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Re: Please test webp image format

2019-12-09 Thread Tim Hill
In article , Brian Howlett
 wrote:
> On 8 Dec, David Higton wrote:

> > In message <514e111f-108b-c4aa-b35b-081f9544d...@codethink.co.uk>
> > Michael Drake  wrote:

> >> Hello,
> >> 
> >> Recently we added the webp library to our SDK. NetSurf Builds from
> >> our CI should now have webp support.
> >> 
> >> So far we've only tested on Linux. Please could users of other
> >> platforms visit
> >> 
> >>https://developers.google.com/speed/webp/gallery1
> >> 
> >> and let us know if it's working?

> > Working correctly here: BBxM, RO 5.27 (28-Oct-19), NS CI#4947.  The
> > pairs of photos look identical to me.

> I had the wrong colours showing on this TiMachine yesterday, but just
> now with CI#4950 it works correctly.

Ditto Pi 3B+ RO 5.24

All looking splendid now. Good job.

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Re: Please test webp image format

2019-12-08 Thread Brian Howlett
On 8 Dec, David Higton wrote:

> In message <514e111f-108b-c4aa-b35b-081f9544d...@codethink.co.uk>
> Michael Drake  wrote:

>> Hello,
>> 
>> Recently we added the webp library to our SDK. NetSurf Builds from our CI
>> should now have webp support.
>> 
>> So far we've only tested on Linux. Please could users of other platforms
>> visit
>> 
>>https://developers.google.com/speed/webp/gallery1
>> 
>> and let us know if it's working?

> Working correctly here: BBxM, RO 5.27 (28-Oct-19), NS CI#4947.  The pairs
> of photos look identical to me.

I had the wrong colours showing on this TiMachine yesterday, but just now 
with CI#4950 it works correctly.
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Re: Please test webp image format

2019-12-08 Thread Peter Young
On 8 Dec 2019  Geoffrey Baxendale  wrote:

> In message <7971b81e58.thebe...@thebears.onetel.com>
>   Geoffrey Baxendale  wrote:

>> In message 
>>   Peter Young  wrote:
>>
>>> On 7 Dec 2019  Michael Drake  wrote:
>>>
 Hello,
>>>
 Recently we added the webp library to our SDK. NetSurf Builds from
 our CI should now have webp support.
>>>
 So far we've only tested on Linux. Please could users of other
 platforms visit
>>>
 https://developers.google.com/speed/webp/gallery1
>>>
 and let us know if it's working?
>>>
>>>
 The CI builds are available from here:
>>>
 https://ci.netsurf-browser.org/builds/
>>>
>>> Working well here with RISC OS, Dev CI#4945. Many thanks.
>>>
>>> Best wishes,
>>>
>>> Peter.
>>>
>> Not here. (4945, RISC OS 5,27 on Titanium.)
>>
>> (colours are wrong. Blue is orange, orange is blue, green is a cyan type
>> colour.)
>>
>> TTFN

> Sorted with #4950.  :-)

So it is!

> Thanks

Thanks from me too.

Best wishes,

Peter.

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Re: Please test webp image format

2019-12-08 Thread Geoffrey Baxendale
In message <7971b81e58.thebe...@thebears.onetel.com>
  Geoffrey Baxendale  wrote:

> In message 
>   Peter Young  wrote:
>
> > On 7 Dec 2019  Michael Drake  wrote:
> >
> > > Hello,
> >
> > > Recently we added the webp library to our SDK. NetSurf Builds from
> > > our CI should now have webp support.
> >
> > > So far we've only tested on Linux. Please could users of other
> > > platforms visit
> >
> > > https://developers.google.com/speed/webp/gallery1
> >
> > > and let us know if it's working?
> >
> >
> > > The CI builds are available from here:
> >
> > > https://ci.netsurf-browser.org/builds/
> >
> > Working well here with RISC OS, Dev CI#4945. Many thanks.
> >
> > Best wishes,
> >
> > Peter.
> >
> Not here. (4945, RISC OS 5,27 on Titanium.)
>
> (colours are wrong. Blue is orange, orange is blue, green is a cyan type
> colour.)
>
> TTFN

Sorted with #4950.  :-)

Thanks
TTFN
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Isn't that a pip?



Re: Please test webp image format

2019-12-08 Thread Frederick Bambrough
In message <0481301f58.DaveMeUK@BeagleBoard-xM>
 David Higton  wrote:

> In message <514e111f-108b-c4aa-b35b-081f9544d...@codethink.co.uk>
>   Michael Drake  wrote:
> 
> > Hello,
> > 
> > Recently we added the webp library to our SDK. NetSurf Builds from our
> > CI should now have webp support.
> > 
> > So far we've only tested on Linux. Please could users of other
> > platforms visit
> > 
> >https://developers.google.com/speed/webp/gallery1
> > 
> > and let us know if it's working?
> 
> Working correctly here: BBxM, RO 5.27 (28-Oct-19), NS CI#4947.  The
> pairs of photos look identical to me.

To confirm, this version of NetSurf is now showing identical colours on my
BB -xM, RISC OS 5.27.

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Re: Please test webp image format

2019-12-08 Thread David Higton
In message <514e111f-108b-c4aa-b35b-081f9544d...@codethink.co.uk>
  Michael Drake  wrote:

> Hello,
> 
> Recently we added the webp library to our SDK. NetSurf Builds from our CI
> should now have webp support.
> 
> So far we've only tested on Linux. Please could users of other platforms
> visit
> 
>https://developers.google.com/speed/webp/gallery1
> 
> and let us know if it's working?

Working correctly here: BBxM, RO 5.27 (28-Oct-19), NS CI#4947.  The pairs
of photos look identical to me.

David



Re: Please test webp image format

2019-12-08 Thread Peter Slegg
Date: Sat, 7 Dec 2019 23:48:22 + (GMT)
From: Peter Slegg 
Subject: Re: Please test webp image format
To: 
Message-ID: <00771621.0419b4904...@smtp.freeola.net>
On , netsurf-users-requ...@netsurf-browser.org wrote:
>>
>> https://developers.google.com/speed/webp/gallery1
>>
>
>Atari build 4946. The link to the fire breathing page shows an
>image without any reversed colours.
>
>
>Peter


I should correct myself.

The jpeg image is being shown but the webp image is not shown at all.
I did a check with firefox (the webp image quality is terrible).


Peter







Re: Please test webp image format

2019-12-08 Thread Uros Vidovic
Here Atari Coldfire build 4945 doesnt show webp pictures at all.

Chers,
Vido

V V ned., 8. dec. 2019 ob 00:48 je oseba Peter Slegg <
psl...@scubadivers.co.uk> napisala:

> On , netsurf-users-requ...@netsurf-browser.org wrote:
> > Date: Sat, 7 Dec 2019 13:49:50 +
> > From: Michael Drake 
> > Subject: Please test webp image format
> > To: netsurf-users@netsurf-browser.org
> > Message-ID: <514e111f-108b-c4aa-b35b-081f9544d...@codethink.co.uk>
> > Hello,
> >
> > Recently we added the webp library to our SDK. NetSurf Builds from
> > our CI should now have webp support.
> >
> > So far we've only tested on Linux. Please could users of other
> > platforms visit
> >
> > https://developers.google.com/speed/webp/gallery1
> >
> > and let us know if it's working?
> >
> >
> > The CI builds are available from here:
> >
> > https://ci.netsurf-browser.org/builds/
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > Michael
> >
>
>
> Atari build 4946. The link to the fire breathing page shows an
> image without any reversed colours.
>
>
> Peter
>
>
>
>
>


Re: Please test webp image format

2019-12-07 Thread Peter Slegg
On , netsurf-users-requ...@netsurf-browser.org wrote:
> Date: Sat, 7 Dec 2019 13:49:50 +
> From: Michael Drake 
> Subject: Please test webp image format
> To: netsurf-users@netsurf-browser.org
> Message-ID: <514e111f-108b-c4aa-b35b-081f9544d...@codethink.co.uk>
> Hello,
>
> Recently we added the webp library to our SDK. NetSurf Builds from
> our CI should now have webp support.
>
> So far we've only tested on Linux. Please could users of other
> platforms visit
>
> https://developers.google.com/speed/webp/gallery1
>
> and let us know if it's working?
>
>
> The CI builds are available from here:
>
> https://ci.netsurf-browser.org/builds/
>
> Cheers,
>
> Michael
>


Atari build 4946. The link to the fire breathing page shows an
image without any reversed colours.


Peter






Re: Please test webp image format

2019-12-07 Thread Dave
In article <514e111f-108b-c4aa-b35b-081f9544d...@codethink.co.uk>,
   Michael Drake  wrote:
> Hello,

> Recently we added the webp library to our SDK. NetSurf Builds from
> our CI should now have webp support.

> So far we've only tested on Linux. Please could users of other
> platforms visit

> https://developers.google.com/speed/webp/gallery1

> and let us know if it's working?


> The CI builds are available from here:

> https://ci.netsurf-browser.org/builds/

> Cheers,

> Michael

No colour problem here RISC OS 6.20 VRPC-DL NetSurf 3.10 (Dev C1 #4945)

C16M Screen colours.

Dave

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Re: Please test webp image format

2019-12-07 Thread Peter Young
On 7 Dec 2019  cj  wrote:

> In article <1c52658a2840684728dce5b1fa248...@imap.plus.net>,
>David Pitt  wrote:
>> The bad news is that there is colour transposition seen on RISC OS
>> 5 on the Titaniun and RPi3B+, and OS4.02 on RPCEmu. Yellows appear
>> as blue and vice versa. Red and blue transposed, probably.

> The colours are reversed on iMX6 as well, so it is not limited to the
> OS rgb/bgr reversal.

That's odd, as it doesn't seem to happen here on this ARMX6. Hang on a 
minute though. On the first pair of images, the water in the fjord is blue 
in one image and orange in the second. Similarly, the sky behind the tree 
is blue in one image and orange in the other.

This is way beyond my understanding.

Best wishes,

Peter.

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Re: Please test webp image format

2019-12-07 Thread Jim Nagel


> In article <1c52658a2840684728dce5b1fa248...@imap.plus.net>,
>David Pitt  wrote:
>> The bad news is that there is colour transposition seen on RISC OS
>> 5 on the Titaniun and RPi3B+, and OS4.02 on RPCEmu. Yellows appear
>> as blue and vice versa. Red and blue transposed, probably.

cj  wrote on 7 Dec:
> The colours are reversed on iMX6 as well, so it is not limited to the
> OS rgb/bgr reversal.a

Yes, same.  Here on ArmX6 (Ro 5.25, RComp 2018-apr) the fire shown in the 
last photo looks quite surreal when coloured cyan.

Welcome news, though, ye Netsurf team!  Only yesterday I was frustrated 
when somebody shared me a photo that arrived in Google's newfangled WebP 
format.

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Re: Please test webp image format

2019-12-07 Thread Tim Hill
In article , Frederick
Bambrough  wrote:
> In message <1c52658a2840684728dce5b1fa248...@imap.plus.net> David Pitt
>   wrote:

> > On 2019-12-07 16:34, Geoffrey Baxendale wrote:
> > > In message  Peter Young
> > >wrote:
> > > 
> > > > On 7 Dec 2019  Michael Drake  wrote:
> > >> 
> > > > > Hello,

[Snip]

> > >> 
> > > Not here. (4945, RISC OS 5,27 on Titanium.)
> > > 
> > > (colours are wrong. Blue is orange, orange is blue, green is a cyan
> > > type colour.)
> > 
> > Not quite right here either.
> > 
> > Using NetSurf 4945.
> > 
> > The bad news is that there is colour transposition seen on RISC OS 5
> > on the Titaniun and RPi3B+, and OS4.02 on RPCEmu. Yellows appear as
> > blue and vice versa. Red and blue transposed, probably.
> > 
> > (Having to send via webmail, Plusnet won't let me reply by email.)

> Same colour issue here on Beagleboard -xM, RISC OS 5.27(01-Dec-19) &
> NetSurf CI #4945

I can confirm same colour issues on Pi3B+ with RO 5.24

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Re: Please test webp image format

2019-12-07 Thread cj
In article <1c52658a2840684728dce5b1fa248...@imap.plus.net>,
   David Pitt  wrote:
> The bad news is that there is colour transposition seen on RISC OS
> 5 on the Titaniun and RPi3B+, and OS4.02 on RPCEmu. Yellows appear
> as blue and vice versa. Red and blue transposed, probably.

The colours are reversed on iMX6 as well, so it is not limited to the
OS rgb/bgr reversal.

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Edinburgh




Re: Please test webp image format

2019-12-07 Thread Frederick Bambrough
In message <1c52658a2840684728dce5b1fa248...@imap.plus.net>
 David Pitt  wrote:

> On 2019-12-07 16:34, Geoffrey Baxendale wrote:
> > In message 
> >   Peter Young  wrote:
> > 
> > > On 7 Dec 2019  Michael Drake  wrote:
> >> 
> > > > Hello,
> >> 
> > > > Recently we added the webp library to our SDK. NetSurf Builds from
> > > > our CI should now have webp support.
> >> 
> > > > So far we've only tested on Linux. Please could users of other
> > > > platforms visit
> >> 
> >> > https://developers.google.com/speed/webp/gallery1
> >> 
> > > > and let us know if it's working?
> >> 
> >> 
> > > > The CI builds are available from here:
> >> 
> >> > https://ci.netsurf-browser.org/builds/
> >> 
> > > Working well here with RISC OS, Dev CI#4945. Many thanks.
> >> 
> > > Best wishes,
> >> 
> > > Peter.
> >> 
> > Not here. (4945, RISC OS 5,27 on Titanium.)
> > 
> > (colours are wrong. Blue is orange, orange is blue, green is a cyan
> > type colour.)
> 
> Not quite right here either.
> 
> Using NetSurf 4945.
> 
> The bad news is that there is colour transposition seen on RISC OS 5 on
> the Titaniun and RPi3B+, and OS4.02 on RPCEmu. Yellows appear as blue
> and vice versa. Red and blue transposed, probably.
> 
> (Having to send via webmail, Plusnet won't let me reply by email.)

Same colour issue here on Beagleboard -xM, RISC OS 5.27(01-Dec-19) &
NetSurf CI #4945



Re: Please test webp image format

2019-12-07 Thread David Pitt

On 2019-12-07 16:34, Geoffrey Baxendale wrote:

In message 
  Peter Young  wrote:


On 7 Dec 2019  Michael Drake  wrote:

> Hello,

> Recently we added the webp library to our SDK. NetSurf Builds from
> our CI should now have webp support.

> So far we've only tested on Linux. Please could users of other
> platforms visit

> https://developers.google.com/speed/webp/gallery1

> and let us know if it's working?


> The CI builds are available from here:

> https://ci.netsurf-browser.org/builds/

Working well here with RISC OS, Dev CI#4945. Many thanks.

Best wishes,

Peter.


Not here. (4945, RISC OS 5,27 on Titanium.)

(colours are wrong. Blue is orange, orange is blue, green is a cyan 
type

colour.)


Not quite right here either.

Using NetSurf 4945.

The bad news is that there is colour transposition seen on RISC OS 5 on 
the
Titaniun and RPi3B+, and OS4.02 on RPCEmu. Yellows appear as blue and 
vice

versa. Red and blue transposed, probably.

(Having to send via webmail, Plusnet won't let me reply by email.)
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Re: Please test webp image format

2019-12-07 Thread Geoffrey Baxendale
In message 
  Peter Young  wrote:

> On 7 Dec 2019  Michael Drake  wrote:
>
> > Hello,
>
> > Recently we added the webp library to our SDK. NetSurf Builds from
> > our CI should now have webp support.
>
> > So far we've only tested on Linux. Please could users of other
> > platforms visit
>
> > https://developers.google.com/speed/webp/gallery1
>
> > and let us know if it's working?
>
>
> > The CI builds are available from here:
>
> > https://ci.netsurf-browser.org/builds/
>
> Working well here with RISC OS, Dev CI#4945. Many thanks.
>
> Best wishes,
>
> Peter.
>
Not here. (4945, RISC OS 5,27 on Titanium.)

(colours are wrong. Blue is orange, orange is blue, green is a cyan type
colour.)

TTFN
-- 
Geoff. Baxendale, Darwen, Lancashire.
Using Elesar Titanium.
Oxymoron of the day: "Almost Exactly"



Re: Please test webp image format

2019-12-07 Thread Peter Young
On 7 Dec 2019  Michael Drake  wrote:

> Hello,

> Recently we added the webp library to our SDK. NetSurf Builds from
> our CI should now have webp support.

> So far we've only tested on Linux. Please could users of other
> platforms visit

> https://developers.google.com/speed/webp/gallery1

> and let us know if it's working?


> The CI builds are available from here:

> https://ci.netsurf-browser.org/builds/

Working well here with RISC OS, Dev CI#4945. Many thanks.

Best wishes,

Peter.

-- 
Peter Young (zfc Hg) and family
Prestbury, Cheltenham, Glos. GL52, England
http://pnyoung.orpheusweb.co.uk
pnyo...@ormail.co.uk



Please test webp image format

2019-12-07 Thread Michael Drake
Hello,

Recently we added the webp library to our SDK. NetSurf Builds from
our CI should now have webp support.

So far we've only tested on Linux. Please could users of other
platforms visit

https://developers.google.com/speed/webp/gallery1

and let us know if it's working?


The CI builds are available from here:

https://ci.netsurf-browser.org/builds/

Cheers,

Michael



Re: Test

2019-08-20 Thread Peter Young
On 20 Aug 2019  David Pitt  wrote:

> In message <914A5569F8797053.e35b579a-0f7d-4ba9-9570-6921c029d203@mail
> .outlook.com>
>   miy...@crashnet.org.uk wrote:

>> Looks fine to me.

> My posts a few days ago bounced. A conversation was started on
> csa.misc. Webmail was resorted to.

> See what happens to this one.

It got here.

Best wishes,

Peter.

-- 
Peter Young (zfc Hg) and family
Prestbury, Cheltenham, Glos. GL52, England
http://pnyoung.orpheusweb.co.uk
pnyo...@ormail.co.uk



Re: Test

2019-08-20 Thread David Pitt
In message <914A5569F8797053.e35b579a-0f7d-4ba9-9570-6921c029d203@mail 
.outlook.com>
  miy...@crashnet.org.uk wrote:

> Looks fine to me.

My posts a few days ago bounced. A conversation was started on 
csa.misc. Webmail was resorted to.

See what happens to this one.

-- 
David Pitt
Titanium



Re: Test

2019-08-20 Thread miyuki
Looks fine to me.




Sent from Huawei phone







On Mon, Aug 19, 2019 at 10:46 PM +0100, "Brian Howlett" 
 wrote:










On 19 Aug, Peter Young  wrote:

> On 19 Aug 2019  Brian Howlett  wrote:

>> Apologies in advance...

>> Issues sending to this list - using relay.plus.net has been failing, so
>> this is just to test if I can use my hosting provider's SMTP server to
>> do so instead.

> It arrived here, via Orpheus

> Best wishes,

> Peter.

Finally got Hermes figured out, but as not relevant for this list I will 
add to the newsgroup thread instead.

At least it's working now!
-- 
Brian Howlett

"Fish - visionary genius, or just a big haddie?"








Re: Test

2019-08-19 Thread Brian Howlett
On 19 Aug, Peter Young  wrote:

> On 19 Aug 2019  Brian Howlett  wrote:

>> Apologies in advance...

>> Issues sending to this list - using relay.plus.net has been failing, so
>> this is just to test if I can use my hosting provider's SMTP server to
>> do so instead.

> It arrived here, via Orpheus

> Best wishes,

> Peter.

Finally got Hermes figured out, but as not relevant for this list I will 
add to the newsgroup thread instead.

At least it's working now!
-- 
Brian Howlett

"Fish - visionary genius, or just a big haddie?"



Re: Test

2019-08-19 Thread Peter Young
On 19 Aug 2019  Brian Howlett  wrote:

> Apologies in advance...

> Issues sending to this list - using relay.plus.net has been failing, so
> this is just to test if I can use my hosting provider's SMTP server to
> do so instead.

It arrived here, via Orpheus

Best wishes,

Peter.

-- 
Peter Young (zfc Hg) and family
Prestbury, Cheltenham, Glos. GL52, England
http://pnyoung.orpheusweb.co.uk
pnyo...@ormail.co.uk



Test

2019-08-19 Thread Brian Howlett
Apologies in advance...

Issues sending to this list - using relay.plus.net has been failing, so 
this is just to test if I can use my hosting provider's SMTP server to
do so instead.
-- 
Brian Howlett

"Fish - visionary genius, or just a big haddie?"



test

2017-11-04 Thread Jim Nagel
Sorry, just a test.

Oct26 was the last message I received from this list.
People elsewhere reported they received postings after that.
Today I received two.
Will this one now come through to me?

-- 
Jim Nagelwww.archivemag.co.uk





Re: Atari test builds

2014-09-24 Thread Vincent Sanders
On Tue, Sep 23, 2014 at 06:28:44PM +, Peter Slegg wrote:
 The Atari build folder is empty:
 
 http://ci.netsurf-browser.org/builds/atari/
 

Unfortunately the CI system master ran itself out of disc and I had to
clean out some corrupted builds including the gtk,monkey and atari
directories.

I have rectified the disc issue and we now have plenty of space so
this should not happen again. sorry for any inconvenience.

-- 
Regards Vincent
http://www.kyllikki.org/



Re: Atari test builds

2014-09-24 Thread Peter Slegg
On Wed, 24 Sep 2014 17:28:43 , Vincent Sanders vi...@netsurf-browser.org 
wrote:
 On Tue, Sep 23, 2014 at 06:28:44PM +, Peter Slegg wrote:
  The Atari build folder is empty:
 
  http://ci.netsurf-browser.org/builds/atari/
 

 Unfortunately the CI system master ran itself out of disc and I had to
 clean out some corrupted builds including the gtk,monkey and atari
 directories.

 I have rectified the disc issue and we now have plenty of space so
 this should not happen again. sorry for any inconvenience.


Thanks Vincent. I assumed it was something more serious than
a broken build and I was puzzled that the other builds were
still there.

This explains it.

Regards,

Peter






Atari test builds

2014-09-23 Thread Peter Slegg
The Atari build folder is empty:

http://ci.netsurf-browser.org/builds/atari/

Peter






Re: Unable to access the Internet with recent RISCOS test builds

2012-10-26 Thread David Pitt
Clive Bonsall, on 25 Oct, wrote:

 With VRPC AdjustSA Mac and RISCOS 4.39 …
 
 I find that the most recent test builds of Netsurf will not access the
 Internet. Netsurf loads OK, but clicking on a URL does nothing and
 eventually times out. Netsurf 2.9 is fine, as is test build r13115. I
 believe I have updated !Boot and !System correctly, and have the latest
 versions of Iconv and Tinct installed.

Same here with NetSurf #531 on OS X 10.8.2, the error is Resolving timed
out after 3 milliseconds. NetSurf 2.9 is fine.

No such problem with VRPC in Windows 7.
 
 Can anyone suggest what the problem might be? == CB


-- 
David Pitt



Re: Unable to access the Internet with recent RISCOS test builds

2012-10-26 Thread Rob Kendrick
On Fri, Oct 26, 2012 at 12:56:17PM +1300, Alan  Sally wrote:
 Hi CJ,
 
 Same result with 531. I downloaded it using 2.9, works normally. Tried 531. 
 Still doesn't connect. No changes have been made between using the two 
 versions. Are you using VRPC on a Mac?

Try an earlier build, such as, say, #480?  Try to find at what point the
problem was introduced.  What is the very latest version you have tried
that worked?

I don't recall anybody doing work on the networking side of NetSurf
very recently, but I do recall all sorts of problems with VRPC due to
the special way it handles the internet.  (Specifically, its handling
of the resolver address environment variable.)

B.



Re: Unable to access the Internet with recent RISCOS test builds

2012-10-26 Thread David Pitt
Rob Kendrick, on 26 Oct, wrote:

 On Fri, Oct 26, 2012 at 12:56:17PM +1300, Alan  Sally wrote:
  Hi CJ,
  
  Same result with 531. I downloaded it using 2.9, works normally. Tried
  531. Still doesn't connect. No changes have been made between using the
  two versions. Are you using VRPC on a Mac?
 
 Try an earlier build, such as, say, #480?  Try to find at what point the
 problem was introduced.  What is the very latest version you have tried
 that worked?

I reported the issue on the 29th September, that was a very early build
predating the #numbered versions.

mpro.mb4in900bgzx702kb.pit...@pittdj.co.uk
 
 I don't recall anybody doing work on the networking side of NetSurf very
 recently, but I do recall all sorts of problems with VRPC due to the
 special way it handles the internet.  (Specifically, its handling of the
 resolver address environment variable.)

I guess then that VRPC uses different special ways on Windows and the Mac.
 


-- 
David Pitt



Re: Unable to access the Internet with recent RISCOS test builds

2012-10-26 Thread cj
In article 7429a0e452.pnyo...@pnyoung.ormail.co.uk,
   Peter Young pnyo...@ormail.co.uk wrote:
 Slight warning: it doesn't look as if anything is happening till
 the new version suddenly springs into life.

If you have the directory, in which Fetch_NS is located, open, do you
not see the new zip file appear as it is downloaded, the icon change
to a zip, when the download is finished, Netsurf disappear from
iconbar, the zip file deleted, then new version reappear on the
iconbar? If there is not a new version, then certainly there is no
visible sign of action - perhaps an error box? - but then that
requires a user to dismiss it again. There will be periods of
inactivity of a few seconds, since NS does take a wee while to quit,
and to start up again.

-- 
Chris Johnson



Re: Unable to access the Internet with recent RISCOS test builds

2012-10-26 Thread john mulrooney
On 26 October 2012 10:19, David Pitt pit...@pittdj.co.uk wrote:

 Rob Kendrick, on 26 Oct, wrote:

  On Fri, Oct 26, 2012 at 12:56:17PM +1300, Alan  Sally wrote:
   Hi CJ,
  
   Same result with 531. I downloaded it using 2.9, works normally. Tried
   531. Still doesn't connect. No changes have been made between using the
   two versions. Are you using VRPC on a Mac?
 
  Try an earlier build, such as, say, #480?  Try to find at what point the
  problem was introduced.  What is the very latest version you have tried
  that worked?

 I reported the issue on the 29th September, that was a very early build
 predating the #numbered versions.

 mpro.mb4in900bgzx702kb.pit...@pittdj.co.uk

  I don't recall anybody doing work on the networking side of NetSurf very
  recently, but I do recall all sorts of problems with VRPC due to the
  special way it handles the internet.  (Specifically, its handling of the
  resolver address environment variable.)

 I guess then that VRPC uses different special ways on Windows and the Mac.

My experience is the same. (although occasionally the *first* URL
click *sometimes*
loads a page, a subsequent try times out at 3 millisecs and I then
have to use 2.9

I'm on an iMac running Mountain Lion.  I'll try windows7 later and see
what happens there.

John



Re: Unable to access the Internet with recent RISCOS test builds

2012-10-26 Thread Alan Leighton
In message 7429a0e452.pnyo...@pnyoung.ormail.co.uk
  Peter Young pnyo...@ormail.co.uk wrote:

 On 26 Oct 2012  Alan Leighton alan.leight...@ntlworld.com wrote:

 In message mpro.mchr4w004xogt00e2.pit...@pittdj.co.uk
   David Pitt pit...@pittdj.co.uk wrote:

 Rob Kendrick, on 26 Oct, wrote:

 On Fri, Oct 26, 2012 at 12:56:17PM +1300, Alan  Sally wrote:
 Hi CJ,

 With all the complexes of the number of 'releases ' what issue do you
 recommend for an Iyonix 5.18 to a layman like me? I use March 23
 r13571.

 For a 5.18 user, I'd recommend Chris Johnson's adaptation of Fetch_NS,
 which was mentioned in the Fetching NetSurf thread, and which he
 will send you if you ask him. This checks whether there is a new
 version, and, if there is, downloads, installs and runs it. This works
 perfectly for me.

 Slight warning: it doesn't look as if anything is happening till the
 new version suddenly springs into life.

 With best wishes,

Thank you my dear Doctor,

Alan Peter.



-- 



Re: Unable to access the Internet with recent RISCOS test builds

2012-10-26 Thread Frank de Bruijn
In article 7429a0e452.pnyo...@pnyoung.ormail.co.uk,
   Peter Young pnyo...@ormail.co.uk wrote:
 On 26 Oct 2012  Alan Leighton alan.leight...@ntlworld.com wrote:
  With all the complexes of the number of 'releases ' what issue do
  you recommend for an Iyonix 5.18 to a layman like me? I use March 23
  r13571.

 For a 5.18 user, I'd recommend Chris Johnson's adaptation of Fetch_NS,
 which was mentioned in the Fetching NetSurf thread, and which he
 will send you if you ask him. This checks whether there is a new
 version, and, if there is, downloads, installs and runs it. This works
 perfectly for me.

 Slight warning: it doesn't look as if anything is happening till the
 new version suddenly springs into life.

My adaptation will report what it's doing (or whether there's nothing to
be done). Other than that, it probably does about the same as Chris's
version, with the exception of deleting older versions (which I prefer
to do manually).

If anyone is interested, it can be found here:
http://www.aconet.org/tools/#fetchns

Please do not use this list to report any problems with it or ask any
questions about. Use one of the comp.sys.acorn newsgroups or Archive
OnLine instead.

Regards,
Frank




Re: Unable to access the Internet with recent RISCOS test builds

2012-10-26 Thread Peter Young
On 26 Oct 2012  cj ch...@chris-johnson.org.uk wrote:

 In article 7429a0e452.pnyo...@pnyoung.ormail.co.uk,
Peter Young pnyo...@ormail.co.uk wrote:
 Slight warning: it doesn't look as if anything is happening till
 the new version suddenly springs into life.

 If you have the directory, in which Fetch_NS is located, open, do you
 not see the new zip file appear as it is downloaded, the icon change
 to a zip, when the download is finished, Netsurf disappear from
 iconbar, the zip file deleted, then new version reappear on the
 iconbar? If there is not a new version, then certainly there is no
 visible sign of action - perhaps an error box? - but then that
 requires a user to dismiss it again. There will be periods of
 inactivity of a few seconds, since NS does take a wee while to quit,
 and to start up again.

Sorry, I put it slightly misleadingly. What I meant is unless you 
know what to look for, apparently nothing happens. It took me some 
time to realise that I could indeed see all the things you mention. It 
is slightly unnerving, though, to wait for the time that NS takes to 
quit and start up, and I thought I was getting more patient in my old 
age!

With best wishes,

Peter.

-- 
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and  \/ ____  \  England.
family   / /  \ | | |\ | /  _  \  http://pnyoung.orpheusweb.co.uk
/  \__/ \_/ | \| \__/   \__ pnyo...@ormail.co.uk



Re: Unable to access the Internet with recent RISCOS test builds

2012-10-25 Thread cj
In article 22f899e1-3caa-4e82-b0c8-433848087...@ed.ac.uk,
   Clive Bonsall c.bons...@ed.ac.uk wrote:
 Can anyone suggest what the problem might be?

Something must have changed on your system. There are a lot of users
regularly updating the latest builds. If there was a general problem
it would soon show up here.

The latest build (#531) is absolutely fine here.

-- 
Chris Johnson



Re: Unable to access the Internet with recent RISCOS test builds

2012-10-25 Thread Alan Sally

Hi,  same here with VRPC AdjustSA and RISCOS 4.39 on Mac with OS 10.5.8 and 
Power Processor.

Alan

***

 On Fri, 26 Oct 2012 10:28:10 +1300, Clive Bonsall c.bons...@ed.ac.uk wrote:


With VRPC AdjustSA Mac and RISCOS 4.39 …

I find that the most recent test builds of Netsurf will not access the 
Internet. Netsurf loads OK, but clicking on a URL does nothing and eventually 
times out. Netsurf 2.9 is fine, as is test build r13115. I believe I have 
updated !Boot and !System correctly, and have the latest versions of Iconv and 
Tinct installed.

Can anyone suggest what the problem might be?
==
CB




Re: Unable to access the Internet with recent RISCOS test builds

2012-10-25 Thread Alan Sally

Hi CJ,

Same result with 531. I downloaded it using 2.9, works normally. Tried 531. 
Still doesn't connect. No changes have been made between using the two 
versions. Are you using VRPC on a Mac?

Regards, Alan

**

On Fri, 26 Oct 2012 11:38:54 +1300, cj ch...@chris-johnson.org.uk wrote:


In article 22f899e1-3caa-4e82-b0c8-433848087...@ed.ac.uk,
   Clive Bonsall c.bons...@ed.ac.uk wrote:

Can anyone suggest what the problem might be?


Something must have changed on your system. There are a lot of users
regularly updating the latest builds. If there was a general problem
it would soon show up here.

The latest build (#531) is absolutely fine here.




How to test and report instability?

2012-08-25 Thread Wendell P
Netsurf 2.9 is very unstable on Debian Wheezy. If I stick to simple
text-only sites, I can usually browse to at least 5 sites before Netsurf
crashes, but going to Amazon crashes it immediately. I have been
watching the log, but all I can say is that Netsurf seems to be going
along fine until it reports Segmentation fault.

What can I do to generate more useful debugging information?

-- 
http://www.fastmail.fm - Access your email from home and the web




OpenDNS and (Re: Problem on test build page.)

2011-03-22 Thread Tim Hill
In article 51b7e679a2brian.jord...@btinternet.com, Brian Jordan
brian.jord...@btinternet.com wrote:
 In article 20110322095119.ga4...@digital-scurf.org, Daniel
 Silverstone dsilv...@netsurf-browser.org wrote:
  On Mon, Mar 21, 2011 at 04:44:09PM +, Dr Peter Young wrote:
   Internal Server Error

  Could you please let us know which URL is causing this error, and
  whether or not it still does?

 I confirm that I also see what Peter has reported.

 All of the links under Recent SVN Activity on
 http://www.netsurf-browser.org/downloads/riscos/testbuilds give an
 error page when clicked on eg 12120 leads to
 http://source.netsurf-browser.org/?rev=12120view=rev

[Snip]

As a side note, this also reveals that OpenDNS may not be a good idea
with NetSurf because OpenDNS error pages use javascript and the
noscript section doesn't work here either.

(Yes, I know, I cried too..)

The page address returned is
http://guide.opendns.com/?url=source.netsurf-browser.org%2F%3Frev%3D12120%26view%3Drevservfail

Here's the noscript bit...

noscript
iframe frameborder=0
src=/main?url=source.netsurf-browser.org%2F%3Frev%3D12120%26view%3Drevamp;servfail=
 width=100% height=100%/iframe
/noscript

The page is completely blank in NetSurf.

-- 
Tim Hill
..
www.timil.com




Re: OpenDNS and (Re: Problem on test build page.)

2011-03-22 Thread Russell Hafter - Lists
In article 51b7e8c26f...@timil.com, Tim Hill
t...@timil.com wrote:

 As a side note, this also reveals that OpenDNS may not be
 a good idea with NetSurf because OpenDNS error pages use
 javascript and the noscript section doesn't work here
 either.

As an openDNS user for a couple of years, I have to say that
I actually prefer the blank screen that NetSurf produces to
the page of normally irrelevant info that I get when using
Firefox.

Of course, this maybe down to the fact that I most often
encounter the OpenDNS page when I have misstyped a URL..

-- 
Russell Hafter - Mailing Lists
rh.li...@phone.coop
Need a hotel? http://www.hrs.com/?client=en__bluecustomerId=416873103
(NB This link needs Firefox to work)



Re: OpenDNS and (Re: Problem on test build page.)

2011-03-22 Thread Rob Kendrick
On Tue, Mar 22, 2011 at 10:25:56AM +, Tim Hill wrote:
 
 As a side note, this also reveals that OpenDNS may not be a good idea
 with NetSurf because OpenDNS error pages use javascript and the
 noscript section doesn't work here either.

Does OpenDNS not just return NXDOMAIN when a domain does not exist?  If
it returns a rewrite to another page on error, then that's an excellent
reason to not use it.

B.



Re: OpenDNS and (Re: Problem on test build page.)

2011-03-22 Thread Russell Hafter - Lists
In article 20110322105125.ga15...@rjek.com, Rob Kendrick
r...@netsurf-browser.org wrote:

 On Tue, Mar 22, 2011 at 10:25:56AM +, Tim Hill wrote:

  As a side note, this also reveals that OpenDNS may not
  be a good idea with NetSurf because OpenDNS error pages
  use javascript and the noscript section doesn't work
  here either.

 Does OpenDNS not just return NXDOMAIN when a domain does
 not exist?  If it returns a rewrite to another page on
 error, then that's an excellent reason to not use it.

OpenDNS diverts you, using JS, to its own search engine
(which I have heard, is done by Yahoo).

-- 
Russell Hafter - Mailing Lists
rh.li...@phone.coop
Need a hotel? http://www.hrs.com/?client=en__bluecustomerId=416873103
(NB This link needs Firefox to work)



Re: OpenDNS and (Re: Problem on test build page.)

2011-03-22 Thread Rob Kendrick
On Tue, Mar 22, 2011 at 11:08:32AM +, Russell Hafter - Lists wrote:
 In article 20110322105125.ga15...@rjek.com, Rob Kendrick
 r...@netsurf-browser.org wrote:
 
  On Tue, Mar 22, 2011 at 10:25:56AM +, Tim Hill wrote:
 
   As a side note, this also reveals that OpenDNS may not
   be a good idea with NetSurf because OpenDNS error pages
   use javascript and the noscript section doesn't work
   here either.
 
  Does OpenDNS not just return NXDOMAIN when a domain does
  not exist?  If it returns a rewrite to another page on
  error, then that's an excellent reason to not use it.
 
 OpenDNS diverts you, using JS, to its own search engine
 (which I have heard, is done by Yahoo).

Oh dear.  This means that their DNS servers lie to you about what exists
and what does not exist.  This breaks a startling number of things, as
discovered by Verisign when they tried to do it for .com, causing them
to hurriedly backtrack on it.

Anyway, this isn't related to NetSurf, or the problem reported (which is
an accidental server misconfiguration, not a DNS fault.)

B.



Re: OpenDNS and (Re: Problem on test build page.)

2011-03-22 Thread Tim Hill
In article 20110322111353.gb15...@rjek.com, Rob Kendrick
r...@netsurf-browser.org wrote:
 Anyway, this isn't related to NetSurf, or the problem reported (which
 is an accidental server misconfiguration, not a DNS fault.)

What about its inablility to render the noscript bit in my OP?

-- 
Tim Hill
..
www.timil.com




Re: Problem on test build page.

2011-03-22 Thread Dr Peter Young
On 22 Mar 2011  Daniel Silverstone dsilv...@netsurf-browser.org 
wrote:

 On Mon, Mar 21, 2011 at 04:44:09PM +, Dr Peter Young wrote:
 Internal Server Error

 Could you please let us know which URL is causing this error, and whether or
 not it still does?

Yes, it still does. One example is 
http://source.netsurf-browser.org/?rev=12120view=rev
but any of the similar links from the test-builds page does the same. 
This is with RISC OS NetSurf r12104. I haven't tried with Windows 
Firefox, but am just going out for the rest of the day; I'll try 
Windows in the evening.

With best wishes,

Peter.

-- 
Peter   \  /  zfc Lu \ Prestbury, Cheltenham,  Glos. GL52
and  \/ ____  \  England.
family   / /  \ | | |\ | /  _  \  http://pnyoung.orpheusweb.co.uk
/  \__/ \_/ | \| \__/   \__ pnyo...@ormail.co.uk



Problem on test build page.

2011-03-21 Thread Dr Peter Young
When I visit the test build page, I usually click on the links from 
the latest build numbers, to check which are applicable to the RISC OS 
versions (the rest of the details are incomprehensible to me). Since 
this morning, I get an error message, saying:

Internal Server Error

The server encountered an internal error or misconfiguration and was 
unable to complete your request.

Please contact the server administrator, [no address given] and inform 
them of the time the error occurred, and anything you might have done 
that may have caused the error.

More information about this error may be available in the server error 
log.

Additionally, a 500 Internal Server Error error was encountered while 
trying to use an ErrorDocument to handle the request.

I don't know how to contact the server administrator, so I'm 
mentioning this here.

Thanks in advance,

Peter.

-- 
Peter   \  /  zfc Lu \ Prestbury, Cheltenham,  Glos. GL52
and  \/ ____  \  England.
family   / /  \ | | |\ | /  _  \  http://pnyoung.orpheusweb.co.uk
/  \__/ \_/ | \| \__/   \__ pnyo...@ormail.co.uk



CSS torture test

2011-01-14 Thread Martin Bazley
Just thought I'd share this (pure HTML and CSS) URL for when the new CSS
parser is done:

http://www.shouldiworkforfree.com/

It'll be interesting to come back afterwards and see how much has been
fixed.

-- 
  __^__   Follow me on Twitter! -- http://twitter.com/swirlythingy
 / _   _ \  (Or, um, don't.  It's a free country and all that.)
( ( |_| ) )
 \_   _/  === Martin Bazley ==




Re: test builds after 2.5

2010-05-23 Thread Erving
In message 5119c13964...@timil.com, Tim Hill wrote:

 In article 7c95871951.davehig...@dsl.pipex.com, Dave Higton
 davehig...@dsl.pipex.com wrote:

  snip
 
  Agreed.  I continue to be amazed at the number of people who post to RO
  mailing lists and newsgroups, who have poor comprehension skills; i.e.
  they read some words and somehow extract a meaning from them that is
  clearly different from what was written.
 
 Welcome to the real world. 
 
 www.plainspeaking..co.uk is worth a read.
  ^^
 A tip: try and avoid woolly words and be precise in what you say.
   ^^ 

or even www.plainspeaking.co.uk 

-- 

Erving



Re: test builds after 2.5

2010-05-19 Thread Tim Hill
In article mpro.l2mqgk00ozzow04zw.li...@stevefryatt.org.uk, Steve
Fryatt li...@stevefryatt.org.uk wrote:
 On 18 May, george wrote in message d3906f1951.acl...@tiscali.co.uk:

  You did say it. OK, the word 'stable' was not used, but implied: see
  TIB article 'Last RISC OS version of NetSurf announced', dated 14 Jan
  2010:
  
  Team spokesman Michael Drake said earlier today: NetSurf 2.5 is
  likely to be the last release for RISC OS. It is unlikely that RISC
  OS development builds will function for much longer after this,
  either.

 You can make statements say anything you want, if you take selective
 bits out of context and quote them.  The rest of that Iconbar article
 made the situation clear, although the headline was a lillte tabloid
 (and I pointed that out at the time).

Well, tabloid papers tell lies, so what does that mean?!  ;-)

Before entering into another didn't say that debate may I please point
out that the essence of good communication is ensuring that the message
received is the one sent. If discussion reveals that an unintended
message is received by some there can be many reasons for this, not just
what was originally (not) said. Constantly repeating 'that's not what was
meant, read it' is unhelpful if the wrong nuances are still clouding
minds. What does 'likely' mean to different people? Almost certain?

Many corporate press releases are intended to clarify as well as inform.
I believe that you have confirmed that limited development of RISC OS
NetSurf continues, despite the /impression/ given elsewhere.

-- 
Tim Hill,

www.timil.com




Re: test builds after 2.5

2010-05-19 Thread Tim Hill
In article 7c95871951.davehig...@dsl.pipex.com, Dave Higton
davehig...@dsl.pipex.com wrote:
 In message 20100518172458.4024b...@trite.i.flarn.net.i.flarn.net Rob
   Kendrick r...@netsurf-browser.org wrote:

  On Tue, 18 May 2010 16:35:12 +0100 george
  george.greenfi...@tiscali.co.uk wrote:
  
   Since the developers have stated that NetSurf 2.5 will be the last
   stable RISC OS release
  
  Where did the developers say this?  I don't remember any of us every
  saying this.  Just that it was likely if somebody didn't come in and
  help with the RISC OS front end.
  
  Can people who keep saying this please stop saying it until we say it.

 Agreed.  I continue to be amazed at the number of people who post to RO
 mailing lists and newsgroups, who have poor comprehension skills; i.e.
 they read some words and somehow extract a meaning from them that is
 clearly different from what was written.

Welcome to the real world. 

www.plainspeaking..co.uk is worth a read.

A tip: try and avoid woolly words and be precise in what you say.

-- 
Tim Hill,

www.timil.com




Re: test builds after 2.5

2010-05-18 Thread Dr Peter Young
On 18 May 2010  george george.greenfi...@tiscali.co.uk wrote:

 Since the developers have stated that NetSurf 2.5 will be the last
 stable RISC OS release, should I continue to download and install test
 builds from the RISC OS section of the Downloads area? Presumably, at
 a certain point, these will fail due to incompatibility with the
 existing RO front end, but when? For the record, I'm running r10528 at
 the moment on RO 5.16 (Iyonix), which seems to work fine.

And I'm running r10550 on 5.16, ditto.

With best wishes,

Peter.

-- 
Peter, \  /  zfc Yb   \ Prestbury, Cheltenham,  Glos. GL52
Anne\/ ____\  England.
and / /  \ | | |\ | /  _\  http://pnyoung.orpheusweb.co.uk
family /  \__/ \_/ | \| \__/ \__ pnyo...@ormail.co.uk



Re: test builds after 2.5

2010-05-18 Thread george
In message 20100518172458.4024b...@trite.i.flarn.net.i.flarn.net
  Rob Kendrick r...@netsurf-browser.org wrote:

 On Tue, 18 May 2010 16:35:12 +0100
 george george.greenfi...@tiscali.co.uk wrote:
 
 Since the developers have stated that NetSurf 2.5 will be the last
 stable RISC OS release
 
 Where did the developers say this?  I don't remember any of us every
 saying this.  Just that it was likely if somebody didn't come in and
 help with the RISC OS front end.
 
 Can people who keep saying this please stop saying it until we say it.

You did say it. OK, the word 'stable' was not used, but implied: see 
TIB article 'Last RISC OS version of NetSurf announced', dated 14 Jan 
2010:

Team spokesman Michael Drake said earlier today: NetSurf 2.5 is 
likely to be the last release for RISC OS. It is unlikely that RISC OS 
development builds will function for much longer after this, either.

In the context of that remark, I maintain that my question was a 
reasonable one, and appropriately phrased. That said, it is good to 
hear that development continues. Let's hope someone can spare the time 
to update the RO front end.

George

-- 



Re: test builds after 2.5

2010-05-18 Thread Rob Kendrick
On Tue, 18 May 2010 18:02:09 +0100
george george.greenfi...@tiscali.co.uk wrote:

  Can people who keep saying this please stop saying it until we say
  it.  
 
 You did say it. OK, the word 'stable' was not used, but implied: see 
 TIB article 'Last RISC OS version of NetSurf announced', dated 14 Jan 
 2010:
 
 Team spokesman Michael Drake said earlier today: NetSurf 2.5 is 
 likely to be the last release for RISC OS.
  ^^
  ^^

B.



Re: test builds after 2.5

2010-05-18 Thread Dave Symes
In article 5119729ccbrh.li...@phone.coop,
   Russell Hafter - Lists rh.li...@phone.coop wrote:
 In article
 20100518172458.4024b...@trite.i.flarn.net.i.flarn.net,
Rob Kendrick r...@netsurf-browser.org wrote:

  Where did the developers say this?  I don't remember any
  of us every saying this.  Just that it was likely if
  somebody didn't come in and help with the RISC OS front
  end.

  Can people who keep saying this please stop saying it
  until we say it.

 I have lost count of the number of times that Rob has had to
 make this point, in various different places.

 It would be nice to think that people actually *read* these
 postings.

 :-)

Probably part of the same syndome that causes people to not see the words
written, but some invisible ones that present among the lines one has
actually written.

Dave

-- 

Dave Triffid



Re: test builds after 2.5

2010-05-18 Thread Steve Fryatt
On 18 May, Tim Hill wrote in message
51196f11fe...@timil.com:

 In article 56328.82.109.43.222.1274200724.squir...@91.84.211.154, Steve
 Fryatt li...@stevefryatt.org.uk wrote:
 
 [snip]
 
  And, for the record, once things have stabilised following 2.5, I hope
  there will still be work done on the RISC OS front-end -- time
  permitting.
 
 Excellent news. Thanks for the clarification.

I'm not aware that this is a clarification: it's what has been said all
along, and sounded very much like what visitors to the NetSurf stand were
being told at the Wakefield Show (at least from where I was standing on the
day).

The same caveats (and opportunities for others to help in numerous ways)
still stand, too.

-- 
Steve Fryatt - Leeds, England

http://www.stevefryatt.org.uk/



Re: test builds after 2.5

2010-05-18 Thread Steve Fryatt
On 18 May, george wrote in message
d3906f1951.acl...@tiscali.co.uk:

 You did say it. OK, the word 'stable' was not used, but implied: see TIB
 article 'Last RISC OS version of NetSurf announced', dated 14 Jan 2010:
 
 Team spokesman Michael Drake said earlier today: NetSurf 2.5 is likely
 to be the last release for RISC OS. It is unlikely that RISC OS
 development builds will function for much longer after this, either.

You can make statements say anything you want, if you take selective bits
out of context and quote them.  The rest of that Iconbar article made the
situation clear, although the headline was a lillte tabloid (and I pointed
that out at the time).

-- 
Steve Fryatt - Leeds, England

http://www.stevefryatt.org.uk/



Re: test builds after 2.5

2010-05-18 Thread Dave Higton
In message 20100518172458.4024b...@trite.i.flarn.net.i.flarn.net
  Rob Kendrick r...@netsurf-browser.org wrote:

 On Tue, 18 May 2010 16:35:12 +0100
 george george.greenfi...@tiscali.co.uk wrote:
 
  Since the developers have stated that NetSurf 2.5 will be the last 
  stable RISC OS release
 
 Where did the developers say this?  I don't remember any of us every
 saying this.  Just that it was likely if somebody didn't come in and
 help with the RISC OS front end.
 
 Can people who keep saying this please stop saying it until we say it.

Agreed.  I continue to be amazed at the number of people who post
to RO mailing lists and newsgroups, who have poor comprehension
skills; i.e. they read some words and somehow extract a meaning
from them that is clearly different from what was written.

Dave



NetSurf rendering speed test

2009-05-25 Thread Chris Young
Hello :)

Please can somebody try accessing the following site in NetSurf and
tell me how it compares speed-wise to any other page:
http://www.amigaimpact.org

It is painfully slow in my port (takes about 8 seconds to page down),
so I want to know whether it is something in my code slowing it down
or something which affects the core.

Thanks
Chris



Re: NetSurf rendering speed test

2009-05-25 Thread Michael Drake
In article
out-4a1af8a4.md-1.4.17.chris.yo...@unsatisfactorysoftware.co.uk,
   Chris Young chris.yo...@unsatisfactorysoftware.co.uk wrote:

 Please can somebody try accessing the following site in NetSurf and
 tell me how it compares speed-wise to any other page:
 http://www.amigaimpact.org

On RISC OS, scrolling that page is just about as fast and smooth as any
other page.

Michael

-- 

Michael Drake (tlsa)  http://www.netsurf-browser.org/




Re: NetSurf rendering speed test

2009-05-25 Thread Tim Hill
In article
out-4a1af8a4.md-1.4.17.chris.yo...@unsatisfactorysoftware.co.uk, Chris
Young chris.yo...@unsatisfactorysoftware.co.uk wrote:
 Hello :)

 Please can somebody try accessing the following site in NetSurf and
 tell me how it compares speed-wise to any other page:
 http://www.amigaimpact.org

Seems like any other well served page: loads in a couple of seconds and
scrolls immediately and smoothly with page up/down or with window tools.  

Iyonix RISC OS 5.15 and NetSurf r7518

HTH

[Snip]

-- 
Tim Hill,

www.timil.com




Re: NetSurf rendering speed test

2009-05-25 Thread Dr Peter Young
On 25 May 2009  Chris Young 
chris.yo...@unsatisfactorysoftware.co.uk wrote:

 Hello :)

 Please can somebody try accessing the following site in NetSurf and
 tell me how it compares speed-wise to any other page:
 http://www.amigaimpact.org

 It is painfully slow in my port (takes about 8 seconds to page down),
 so I want to know whether it is something in my code slowing it down
 or something which affects the core.

About ten seconds here; RISC OS 5.14.

With best wishes,

Peter.

-- 
Peter, \  /  zfc Tm   \ Prestbury, Cheltenham,  Glos. GL52
Anne\/ ____\  England.
and / /  \ | | |\ | /  _\  http://pnyoung.orpheusweb.co.uk
family /  \__/ \_/ | \| \__/ \__ pnyo...@ormail.co.uk



Re: NetSurf rendering speed test

2009-05-25 Thread Bryn Evans
In a mad moment - Michael Drake  mumbled :

 In article
 out-4a1af8a4.md-1.4.17.chris.yo...@unsatisfactorysoftware.co.uk,
Chris Young chris.yo...@unsatisfactorysoftware.co.uk wrote:

 Please can somebody try accessing the following site in NetSurf and
 tell me how it compares speed-wise to any other page:
 http://www.amigaimpact.org

 On RISC OS, scrolling that page is just about as fast and smooth as any
 other page.

RiscPC 130Mb 4.02 NS r7542 -
 Slightly faster to load than the register, perfectly smooth scroll -   
 interesting Franglais in some links :)

-- 
|)[
|)ryn [vansmail to - brynev...@bryork.freeuk.com







Re: NetSurf rendering speed test

2009-05-25 Thread Michael Drake
In article f3b6206150.pnyo...@pnyoung.ormail.co.uk,
   Dr Peter Young pnyo...@ormail.co.uk wrote:

 About ten seconds here; RISC OS 5.14.

Surely you're including fetching, processing and formatting? The actual
redraw (i.e. rendering when scrolling up and down) should be near-instant.

Michael

-- 

Michael Drake (tlsa)  http://www.netsurf-browser.org/




posts appearing? test

2009-04-17 Thread Jim Nagel
sorry; ignore this.  it's just that a post i sent a few hours ago has 
not yet appeared, nor its repeat.

-- 
 no need to reply my entire message back to me ;=]
Jim Nagelwww.archivemag.co.uk
   Abbey Press   32 Norbins Rd(01458) 83 3603
   Glastonbury   BA6 9JG pocket 0797 415 3861



Re: posts appearing? test

2009-04-17 Thread Rob Kendrick
On Thu, 16 Apr 2009 16:15:53 +0100
Jim Nagel nets...@abbeypress.co.uk wrote:

 sorry; ignore this.  it's just that a post i sent a few hours ago has 
 not yet appeared, nor its repeat.

Slight issue caused by the recent server upgrade; apologies.  No mails
were lost, but some might be duplicated.

B.