Re: User feedback requested (esp. RISC OS)
Any attempt to load this page :- http://rickman.orpheusweb.co.uk/temp/songaf.html using netsurf-2012-10-03_19-43-06 pops up a message from NetSurf saying: NetSurf is running out of memory. Please free some memory and try again. Tasks shows NS is using 6800K, Free 422772, Dynamic areas NS 5056K The page loads successfully using NetSurf 2.9 -- John Rickman - http://mug.riscos.org/
Re: User feedback requested (esp. RISC OS)
On 02/10/2012 18:49, Vincent Sanders wrote: * The Continuous Integration (CI) builds are produced for the NetSurf Developers. In which case to avoid the confusion which has enviably arisen, please can information and discussion on the CI builds be posted to netsurf-developers mailing list, and netsurf-users be kept for discussion of release and beta builds. With all due respect, there are a large number of users on netsurf-users who will not be able to produce bug reports of sufficient detail from the CI build to be useful to developers, and are best sticking to the beta builds to avoid undue distribution to both themselves and developers. This list can then get back to its original mandate of feedback on the browser from a user perspective, without being swamped by crash reports and questions on how to build things. Cheers -- David J. Ruck email: dr...@druck.org.uk phone: +44(0)7974 108301
Re: User feedback requested (esp. RISC OS)
On Wed, Oct 03, 2012 at 08:04:29AM +0100, Alan Leighton wrote: Could not put it better David for many of us it is wait for the next, for the beta builds, Thanks, Alan What beta builds? Do you mean the old test builds? These are essentially the same, except using off-the-shelf better infrastructure rather than something we rolled ourselves. (In part needed because of our move from Subversion to git.) B.
Re: User feedback requested (esp. RISC OS)
In message d746bed852.a...@ntlworld.com Alan Leighton alan.leight...@ntlworld.com wrote: In message 506be1e3.1010...@druck.org.uk David J. Ruck dr...@druck.org.uk wrote: On 02/10/2012 18:49, Vincent Sanders wrote: * The Continuous Integration (CI) builds are produced for the NetSurf Developers. In which case to avoid the confusion which has enviably arisen, please can information and discussion on the CI builds be posted to netsurf-developers mailing list, and netsurf-users be kept for discussion of release and beta builds. With all due respect, there are a large number of users on netsurf-users who will not be able to produce bug reports of sufficient detail from the CI build to be useful to developers, and are best sticking to the beta builds to avoid undue distribution to both themselves and developers. Could not put it better David for many of us it is wait for the next, for the beta builds, Thanks, Alan [snip] If you want stability, use 2.9. If you want to help development of 3.0 and can tolerate the occasional crash/freeze*, use the latest builds. Simples. George (*as it clearly states on the Netsurf site, use of the development builds is at the user's risk. As for quality of bug reports, it is alwasy open to the developers to ask for more/better info on any particular report. FWIW, I have found the 28-9_19-54-37 build to be both much faster and stable on my RPCEmu 0.8.9/4.02 Win7 installation) -- george greenfield
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The following bytes were arranged on 2 Oct 2012 by Michael Drake : In article 52d877edfdcvj...@waitrose.com, Chris Newman cvj...@waitrose.com wrote: In the info window obtained from the iconbar icon, Version just gives 3.0 (development). Is there a way of checking which version/build you are using except noting at the time of downloading? There is just the name of the zip file you downloaded to identify it at the moment. This is just one reason we aren't yet ready to announce development builds being available for general testing use; there's currently no good way to identify them. We need to come up with a new identification scheme, since Subversion revision numbers are no longer available. May I suggest using whatever it is you currently name the zip files with? I mean, you could use the git commit ID, but five-figure SVN revisions were hard enough to keep track of. -- __^__ / _ _ \ I don't have a problem with God; it's his fan club I can't stand. ( ( |_| ) ) \_ _/ === Martin Bazley ==
Re: User feedback requested (esp. RISC OS)
The following bytes were arranged on 29 Sep 2012 by Martin Bazley : http://www.andyfanton.com Serious error. Every time, without fail. With the 2012-10-02_20-23-02 archive, this site has stopped crashing (again). I haven't had a lockup yet, and I'm hopeful from other people's reports that I won't. Good work! Now, how's that Javascript coming along...? ;-) -- __^__ / _ _ \ It is written that Geeks shall inherit the Earth. ( ( |_| ) ) \_ _/ === Martin Bazley ==
Re: User feedback requested (esp. RISC OS)
In article 52d7fa45b1t...@netsurf-browser.org, Michael Drake t...@netsurf-browser.org wrote: In article 52d7f97c49dhw...@talktalk.net, David H Wild dhw...@talktalk.net wrote: The readme file needs replacing, as it applies to the older system and tells you how to install the boot and system files which are not supplied with the new version. The !Boot and !System directories will be added at some point. I still think that the readme file should reflect what is in the ip file. It wouldn't be much work to change it when needed. -- David Wild using RISC OS on broadband www.davidhwild.me.uk
Re: User feedback requested (esp. RISC OS)
On Tue, 2012-10-02 at 09:53 +0100, David H Wild wrote: In article 52d7fa45b1t...@netsurf-browser.org, Michael Drake t...@netsurf-browser.org wrote: In article 52d7f97c49dhw...@talktalk.net, David H Wild dhw...@talktalk.net wrote: The readme file needs replacing, as it applies to the older system and tells you how to install the boot and system files which are not supplied with the new version. The !Boot and !System directories will be added at some point. I still think that the readme file should reflect what is in the ip file. It wouldn't be much work to change it when needed. Firstly, development builds come with a very large health warning as they represent the current state of development which, in all likelihood, is broken. Please don't confuse them with stable, numbered, release versions. Secondly, we have not yet announced the return of development builds for general use. Michael requested early feedback about the stability of the software only so we could see how widespread a problem the machine freezing behaviour was. There will be an announcement when development builds are available for general use; right now, they should be considered harmful. J.
Re: User feedback requested (esp. RISC OS)
On Tue, Oct 02, 2012 at 09:53:37AM +0100, David H Wild wrote: In article 52d7fa45b1t...@netsurf-browser.org, Michael Drake t...@netsurf-browser.org wrote: In article 52d7f97c49dhw...@talktalk.net, David H Wild dhw...@talktalk.net wrote: The readme file needs replacing, as it applies to the older system and tells you how to install the boot and system files which are not supplied with the new version. The !Boot and !System directories will be added at some point. I still think that the readme file should reflect what is in the ip file. It wouldn't be much work to change it when needed. Note what it says in big scary letters before you download test releases. I think we're in the best position to judge how much work it is and when we should spend our copious free time on doing it. B.
Re: User feedback requested (esp. RISC OS)
On Sat, 2012-09-29 at 21:54 +0100, Martin Bazley wrote: I've never had problems of this scale with any other site. Whatever andyfanton.com does, NetSurf really doesn't like it! In the interests of preventing this regression occurring a fifth time, perhaps 'Jenkins' could be amended to make sure NetSurf can cope with a fetch and display of that specific page? Stopping regressions what automated testing is for, right? A Jenkins job just runs a command. There is currently no infrastructure for this kind of testing. Patches to improve the situation are always welcome. J.
Re: User feedback requested (esp. RISC OS)
In article 52d6e2c396t...@netsurf-browser.org, Michael Drake t...@netsurf-browser.org wrote: CAUTION: SAVE ALL WORK BEFORE RUNNING THESE BUILDS We have at least one case of NetSurf freezing a RISC OS Iyonix such that it needs to be reset. We think this problem may gave been fixed by updating the autobuilder to use the GCCSDK 4.1.2 v2 release. Please could people who had the RISC OS 5 freeze problem test the latest build from http://ci.netsurf-browser.org/builds/riscos/ ? Best regards, -- Michael Drake (tlsa) http://www.netsurf-browser.org/
Re: User feedback requested (esp. RISC OS)
In article 1349168843.17266.11.camel@duiker, John-Mark Bell j...@netsurf-browser.org wrote: On Tue, 2012-10-02 at 09:53 +0100, David H Wild wrote: I still think that the readme file should reflect what is in the ip file. It wouldn't be much work to change it when needed. Once development builds are linked from the main NetSurf web site again we should have most of the is and ts dotted and crossed. :) Secondly, we have not yet announced the return of development builds for general use. Michael requested early feedback about the stability of the software only so we could see how widespread a problem the machine freezing behaviour was. There will be an announcement when development builds are available for general use; right now, they should be considered harmful. Indeed, sorry if that was unclear. -- Michael Drake (tlsa) http://www.netsurf-browser.org/
Re: User feedback requested (esp. RISC OS)
In message 52d84f6370st...@joyces.demon.co.uk Steve Joyce st...@joyces.demon.co.uk wrote: RISC OS 4.39 RPC Strongarm Using Netsurf-2012-09-30_10-23-17/zip Tried just a few websites. Looks ok on Demon and Amazon. Amazon site appears to work ok. However, streetmap.co.uk produced all the furniture but no map. None of the controls appear to do anything. Accepts postcode entry but does not produce map. No crash/lock-up so far. Steve Streetmap displays OK here. Iyonix 5.19 (26 Sept) Netsurf 2012-10-02_09-33-37 Dave Barrass
Re: User feedback requested (esp. RISC OS)
In article e34c53d852.dbarr...@davebarrass.sky.com, DB d.barr...@tesco.net wrote: In message 52d84f6370st...@joyces.demon.co.uk Steve Joyce st...@joyces.demon.co.uk wrote: RISC OS 4.39 RPC Strongarm Using Netsurf-2012-09-30_10-23-17/zip Tried just a few websites. Looks ok on Demon and Amazon. Amazon site appears to work ok. However, streetmap.co.uk produced all the furniture but no map. None of the controls appear to do anything. Accepts postcode entry but does not produce map. No crash/lock-up so far. Steve Streetmap displays OK here. Iyonix 5.19 (26 Sept) Netsurf 2012-10-02_09-33-37 And here. So does everything else I've tried so far. RiscPC 700 Adjust 4.39 with Unipod -- Chris
Re: User feedback requested (esp. RISC OS)
On 2 Oct 2012 Steve Joyce wrote: Tried just a few websites. Looks ok on Demon and Amazon. Amazon site appears to work ok. However, streetmap.co.uk produced all the furniture but no map. None of the controls appear to do anything. Accepts postcode entry but does not produce map. I always use oldmap.srf which works fine with NetSurf. However I normally use Fresco because it's much easier to save the page as a drawfile and delete all the clutter leaving just the grouped map sections (ungroup four times, deselect the map and delete the rest). Also it prints on the Calligraph. -- Richard Porterhttp://www.minijem.plus.com/ mailto:r...@minijem.plus.com I don't want a user experience - I just want stuff that works.
Re: User feedback requested (esp. RISC OS)
In article 1a4c5dd852.r...@user.minijem.plus.com, Richard Porter r...@minijem.plus.com wrote: On 2 Oct 2012 Steve Joyce wrote: Tried just a few websites. Looks ok on Demon and Amazon. Amazon site appears to work ok. However, streetmap.co.uk produced all the furniture but no map. None of the controls appear to do anything. Accepts postcode entry but does not produce map. I always use oldmap.srf Is that part of a URL? Can you clarify please. I tried www.oldmap.srf got a Could not resolve host message. -- Chris
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Platform: RISC OS
using netsurf-2012-10-02_09-33-37/zip
RO 5.18 on Iyonix
Fault: NetSurf has to quit after rendering http://www.independent.co.uk/
I have an error log file. Tried sending it but complaints about
size of attachment. Last few lines:
(30.89) render/html.c html_convert_css_callback 1425: stylesheet
file:///Choices:WWW/NetSurf/User failed: UnacceptableType
(30.89) render/html.c html_convert_css_callback 1429: 0 fetches active
...
Fatal signal received: Segmentation fault
Stack backtrace:
Running thread 0x6a32c8
( 6abee4) pc: 528d64 lr:8a6d0 sp: 6abee8 __write_backtrace()
( 6abf10) pc:8a634 lr: 5295ac sp: 6abf14 ^ro_gui_signal()
( 6abf38) pc: 52959c lr: 5293d0 sp: 6abf3c __unixlib_exec_sig()
( 6abfa0) pc: 528e88 lr: 529bb0 sp: 6abfa4 __unixlib_raise_signal()
( 6abfb0) pc: 529ab4 lr:1d648 sp: 6aabc8 __h_cback()
Register dump at 006abfb4:
a1: 74786574 a2:5 a3:0 a4:0
v1:0 v2: 61bd4888 v3:0 v4: 6aacf4
v5:1 v6: 61bd4888 sl: 6aa208 fp: 6aabd4
ip: 6aabd8 sp: 6aabc8 lr:1d648 pc:11908
cpsr: 2010
000118f4 : ..» : bb149919 : BLLT00537D60
000118f8 : ..Pã : e350 : CMP R0,#0
000118fc : : 0a03 : BEQ 00011910
00011900 : ..å : e590 : LDR R0,[R0,#0]
00011904 : ..Pã : e350 : CMP R0,#0
00011908 : ... : 1590 : LDRNE R0,[R0,#0]
0001190c : .¨.é : e91ba800 : LDMDB R11,{R11,R13,PC}
00011910 : Q? ã : e3a03f51 : MOV R3,#0144 ; =324
00011914 : .0â : e2833001 : ADD R3,R3,#1
( 6aabd4) pc:118f0 lr:1d648 sp: 6aabd8
hlcache_handle_get_content()
( 6aabe4) pc:1d63c lr:590a0 sp: 6aabe8 nscss_get_stylesheet()
( 6aac54) pc:5900c lr:594a0 sp: 6aac58 html_finish_conversion()
( 6aac98) pc:593d0 lr:11ff8 sp: 6aac9c
^html_convert_css_callback()
( 6aad6c) pc:11f80 lr:12548 sp: 6aad70 ^hlcache_migrate_ctx()
( 6aade8) pc:12374 lr:134d4 sp: 6aadec ^hlcache_llcache_callback()
( 6aae1c) pc:13358 lr:13da0 sp: 6aae20
^llcache_object_notify_users()
( 6aae34) pc:13d78 lr:125f4 sp: 6aae38 llcache_poll()
( 6aae44) pc:125e8 lr:344b8 sp: 6aae48 hlcache_poll()
( 6aae5c) pc:34490 lr:8b284 sp: 6aae60 netsurf_main_loop()
( 6aafe8) pc:8ab9c lr: 5379c0 sp: 6aafec main()
I have no file called User in Choices:WWW/NetSurf. Could that be the problem?
So I made a copy of Choices:WWW/NetSurf/Choices and called it User. Still no go
but log file now
ends with
(117.13) render/html.c html_convert_css_callback 1419: 1 fetches active
(117.13) riscos/filetype.c fetch_filetype 84: unix_path =
'Choices:WWW.NetSurf.User'
(117.13) riscos/filetype.c fetch_filetype 93: riscos path
'Choices:WWW.NetSurf.User'
(117.14) render/html.c html_convert_css_callback 1425: stylesheet
file:///Choices:WWW/NetSurf/User failed: UnacceptableType
(117.14) render/html.c html_convert_css_callback 1429: 0 fetches active
So should Choices:WWW/NetSurf/User be a directory? I tried setting some
preferences but
no such directory got created. At this point I think I need some advice before
experimenting
further.
--
Gavin Wraith (ga...@wra1th.plus.com)
Home page: http://www.wra1th.plus.com/
Re: User feedback requested (esp. RISC OS)
On 2 Oct 2012 Chris Newman wrote: In article 1a4c5dd852.r...@user.minijem.plus.com, Richard Porter r...@minijem.plus.com wrote: On 2 Oct 2012 Steve Joyce wrote: Tried just a few websites. Looks ok on Demon and Amazon. Amazon site appears to work ok. However, streetmap.co.uk produced all the furniture but no map. None of the controls appear to do anything. Accepts postcode entry but does not produce map. I always use oldmap.srf Is that part of a URL? Can you clarify please. I tried www.oldmap.srf got a Could not resolve host message. No, I'm talking about streetmap.co.uk. You can still use the old format page layout. I have a form on my local home page like this (I've taken out the formatting): form action=http://www.streetmap.co.uk/oldsearch.srf?; name=f method=post input type=hidden value=oldmap name=mapp input type=hidden value=oldsearch name=searchp input type=text size=36 name=name input id=Submit1 type=submit value=Streetmap NAME=Submit1 input id=Radio2 type=radio CHECKED value=PostCode name=typePost Code input id=Radio3 type=radio value=PlaceName name=typeGB Place input id=Radio1 type=radio value=UKStreet name=typeUK Street input id=Radio8 type=radio value=LondonStreet name=typeLondon Street input id=Radio4 type=radio value=OSGrid name=typeOS grid (x,y) input id=Radio5 type=radio value=LRGrid name=typeLandranger input id=Radio6 type=radio value=LatLong name=typeLat/Long input id=Radio7 type=radio value=Telephone name=typeTel Code /form Clearly the search goes to oldsearch.srf but the map comes back as oldmap.srf with a few arguments. Sorry if this is getting off-topic. -- Richard Porterhttp://www.minijem.plus.com/ mailto:r...@minijem.plus.com I don't want a user experience - I just want stuff that works.
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On 2 Oct 2012 Gavin Wraith ga...@wra1th.plus.com wrote: Platform: RISC OS using netsurf-2012-10-02_09-33-37/zip RO 5.18 on Iyonix Fault: NetSurf has to quit after rendering http://www.independent.co.uk/ Same here, ARMini, RISC OS 5.19 (16 May 2012). With best wishes, Peter. -- Peter \ / zfc Ta \ Prestbury, Cheltenham, Glos. GL52 and \/ ____ \ England. family / / \ | | |\ | / _ \ http://pnyoung.orpheusweb.co.uk / \__/ \_/ | \| \__/ \__ pnyo...@ormail.co.uk
Re: User feedback requested (esp. RISC OS)
In article 20121002090730.gd4...@pepperfish.net, Rob Kendrick r...@netsurf-browser.org wrote: I think we're in the best position to judge how much work it is and when we should spend our copious free time on doing it. I'm talking about altering the readme file to reflect what is in the zip file and not complaining about faults in the program. -- David Wild using RISC OS on broadband www.davidhwild.me.uk
Re: User feedback requested (esp. RISC OS)
On 2 Oct 2012 David H Wild wrote: In article 20121002090730.gd4...@pepperfish.net, Rob Kendrick r...@netsurf-browser.org wrote: I think we're in the best position to judge how much work it is and when we should spend our copious free time on doing it. I'm talking about altering the readme file to reflect what is in the zip file and not complaining about faults in the program. I'm grateful to have the latest test versions. I'm not worried about the ReadMe file or the System and Boot files unless they change. In fact the additional resources could usefully be a separate download. -- Richard Porterhttp://www.minijem.plus.com/ mailto:r...@minijem.plus.com I don't want a user experience - I just want stuff that works.
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On 2 Oct 2012 Peter Young wrote: On 2 Oct 2012 Gavin Wraith ga...@wra1th.plus.com wrote: Platform: RISC OS using netsurf-2012-10-02_09-33-37/zip RO 5.18 on Iyonix Fault: NetSurf has to quit after rendering http://www.independent.co.uk/ Same here, ARMini, RISC OS 5.19 (16 May 2012). Same with RiscPC Kinetic 300, OS 6.16 (Segfault at 200118b0) I've saved the log file but I assume one of you will have submitted a bug report. -- Richard Porterhttp://www.minijem.plus.com/ mailto:r...@minijem.plus.com I don't want a user experience - I just want stuff that works.
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I fixed one double free bug that was showing up when this page was run on gtk frontend but it may be unrelated, can you try the latest build to be see? -- Regards Vincent http://www.kyllikki.org/
Re: User feedback requested (esp. RISC OS)
On Mon, Oct 01, 2012 at 08:15:00PM +0100, David H Wild wrote: In article nsc41be8d752.b...@yo.rk, Bryn Evans nets...@bryork.freeuk.com wrote: Tried the second Sept 30th release and seems ok - RiscPC, StrongArm, RO4·02, 130Mb memory. In my case using RO 6.20. I have had no crashes but there is a silly with Flickr which doesn't produce the individual images - although it does show the images on the index page. With the March version I could see the pictures but there was a message telling me to use Javascript for the best results. This message has now disappeared, but I'd rather have the pictures. The readme file needs replacing, as it applies to the older system and tells you how to install the boot and system files which are not supplied with the new version. Although this message is a reply to Mr Wild *everyone* should read it and understand what I am saying. I will endeavour to be as clear as I can be. If that comes across as overly abrupt I apologise but before any additional misunderstanding occurs I wish to make these points clear. * The Continuous Integration (CI) builds are produced for the NetSurf Developers. * We have chosen to make them publicly available *only* as a courtesy to our users. * The prominent and clear warning in the big orange box [1] is there for a reason, please read what it says. If you disagree its not open for discussion, simply do not use the builds! * The CI builds are *NOT* in any way, whatsoever, at all (can I make this more emphatic?) to be considered a usable release or something stable. If a build happens to work and not explode you are fortunate. * We are happy to accept reports of issues on these builds as long as full and concise information is provided in the report. A patch to fix the problem is more than welcome (do discuss it with the developers first - we may have already fixed it). * Opinion on what steps we should or ought to take to resolve an issue is best kept to yourself, especially if you have not understood the above points. * If these simple guidelines are ignored or argued over we will have to reconsider the open access policy FOR CI BUILDS (before anyone misquotes me). In summary: These builds are a debugging tool for the NetSurf developers which you can choose to use if you wish, as long as you understand they are in no way a release. If you find a bug reporting it clearly and concisely is fine patches very welcome and opinion is not useful. In this case: A report that the additional resources mentioned in the readme were missing (which is now fixed BTW) would have been fine. The exact version used and other information would have been nice to have. That was where it should have been left and now I have clarified the purpose of these builds I assume that in future the issue will not arise again. [1] http://ci.netsurf-browser.org/builds/ -- Regards Vincent
Re: User feedback requested (esp. RISC OS)
In article 64f368d852.r...@user.minijem.plus.com, Richard Porter r...@minijem.plus.com wrote: On 2 Oct 2012 Chris Newman wrote: In article 1a4c5dd852.r...@user.minijem.plus.com, Richard Porter r...@minijem.plus.com wrote: On 2 Oct 2012 Steve Joyce wrote: Tried just a few websites. Looks ok on Demon and Amazon. Amazon site appears to work ok. However, streetmap.co.uk produced all the furniture but no map. None of the controls appear to do anything. Accepts postcode entry but does not produce map. I always use oldmap.srf Is that part of a URL? Can you clarify please. I tried www.oldmap.srf got a Could not resolve host message. No, I'm talking about streetmap.co.uk. You can still use the old format page layout. I have a form on my local home page like this (I've taken out the formatting): form action=http://www.streetmap.co.uk/oldsearch.srf?; That link worked fine for me (RiscPC 700 Adjust 4.39 with Unipod). I get to the old Streetmap.com page via... http://www.streetmap.co.uk/newdefaulte2.htm Cheers, -- Chris
Re: User feedback requested
In article 20121002174956.gb11...@kyllikki.org, Vincent Sanders vi...@netsurf-browser.org wrote: Although this message is a reply to Mr Wild *everyone* should read it and understand what I am saying. I will endeavour to be as clear as I can be. If that comes across as overly abrupt I apologise but before any additional misunderstanding occurs I wish to make these points clear. * The Continuous Integration (CI) builds are produced for the NetSurf Developers. big snip A report that the additional resources mentioned in the readme were missing (which is now fixed BTW) would have been fine. The exact version used and other information would have been nice to have. In the info window obtained from the iconbar icon, Version just gives 3.0 (development). Is there a way of checking which version/build you are using except noting at the time of downloading? Thanks for all your hard work. Regards, -- Chris
Re: User feedback requested (esp. RISC OS)
On 2 Oct 2012 Michael Drake t...@netsurf-browser.org wrote: In article 52d6e2c396t...@netsurf-browser.org, Michael Drake t...@netsurf-browser.org wrote: CAUTION: SAVE ALL WORK BEFORE RUNNING THESE BUILDS We have at least one case of NetSurf freezing a RISC OS Iyonix such that it needs to be reset. We think this problem may gave been fixed by updating the autobuilder to use the GCCSDK 4.1.2 v2 release. Please could people who had the RISC OS 5 freeze problem test the latest build from http://ci.netsurf-browser.org/builds/riscos/ ? Having fully understood Vincent's warning, which has just arrived here, I can report this: I've been running the version in netsurf-2012-10-02_13-35-15/zip for several hours now, and have used pretty much the full range of apps that I usually use, and haven't had a freeze yet. ARMini, RISC OS 5.19 (16 May 2012). I've kept a copy of the latest (I think) 2.9, but the new one looks good so far; many thanks for the work. With best wishes, Peter. -- Peter \ / zfc Ta \ Prestbury, Cheltenham, Glos. GL52 and \/ ____ \ England. family / / \ | | |\ | / _ \ http://pnyoung.orpheusweb.co.uk / \__/ \_/ | \| \__/ \__ pnyo...@ormail.co.uk
Re: User feedback requested
On 2 Oct 2012 Chris Newman cvj...@waitrose.com wrote: In article 20121002174956.gb11...@kyllikki.org, Vincent Sanders vi...@netsurf-browser.org wrote: Although this message is a reply to Mr Wild *everyone* should read it and understand what I am saying. I will endeavour to be as clear as I can be. If that comes across as overly abrupt I apologise but before any additional misunderstanding occurs I wish to make these points clear. * The Continuous Integration (CI) builds are produced for the NetSurf Developers. big snip A report that the additional resources mentioned in the readme were missing (which is now fixed BTW) would have been fine. The exact version used and other information would have been nice to have. In the info window obtained from the iconbar icon, Version just gives 3.0 (development). Is there a way of checking which version/build you are using except noting at the time of downloading? It's in the name of the zip file, I think. Thanks for all your hard work. Seconded. With best wishes, Peter. -- Peter \ / zfc Ta \ Prestbury, Cheltenham, Glos. GL52 and \/ ____ \ England. family / / \ | | |\ | / _ \ http://pnyoung.orpheusweb.co.uk / \__/ \_/ | \| \__/ \__ pnyo...@ormail.co.uk
Re: User feedback requested
In article 52d877edfdcvj...@waitrose.com, Chris Newman cvj...@waitrose.com wrote: In the info window obtained from the iconbar icon, Version just gives 3.0 (development). Is there a way of checking which version/build you are using except noting at the time of downloading? There is just the name of the zip file you downloaded to identify it at the moment. This is just one reason we aren't yet ready to announce development builds being available for general testing use; there's currently no good way to identify them. We need to come up with a new identification scheme, since Subversion revision numbers are no longer available. -- Michael Drake (tlsa) http://www.netsurf-browser.org/
Re: User feedback requested (esp. RISC OS)
In article 016d78d852.pnyo...@pnyoung.ormail.co.uk, Peter Young pnyo...@ormail.co.uk wrote: On 2 Oct 2012 Michael Drake t...@netsurf-browser.org wrote: Please could people who had the RISC OS 5 freeze problem test the latest build from http://ci.netsurf-browser.org/builds/riscos/ ? I've been running the version in netsurf-2012-10-02_13-35-15/zip for several hours now, and have used pretty much the full range of apps that I usually use, and haven't had a freeze yet. ARMini, RISC OS 5.19 (16 May 2012). That's great, thanks for the feedback. -- Michael Drake (tlsa) http://www.netsurf-browser.org/
Re: User feedback requested (esp. RISC OS)
In message 52d845e915t...@netsurf-browser.org Michael Drake t...@netsurf-browser.org wrote: In article 52d6e2c396t...@netsurf-browser.org, Michael Drake t...@netsurf-browser.org wrote: CAUTION: SAVE ALL WORK BEFORE RUNNING THESE BUILDS We have at least one case of NetSurf freezing a RISC OS Iyonix such that it needs to be reset. We think this problem may gave been fixed by updating the autobuilder to use the GCCSDK 4.1.2 v2 release. Please could people who had the RISC OS 5 freeze problem test the latest build from http://ci.netsurf-browser.org/builds/riscos/ ? I gave 2012-10-02_17-27-57 a good thrashing this evening. No freeze occurred. I'm going to stick with it for now. I welcome the CI builds. Iyonix, RO 5.18, 512 MiB. This is a good point at which to offer my thanks again to the whole NetSurf team! Dave Send any screenshot to your friends in seconds... Works in all emails, instant messengers, blogs, forums and social networks. TRY IM TOOLPACK at http://www.imtoolpack.com/default.aspx?rc=if2 for FREE
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In message 52d84f6370st...@joyces.demon.co.uk Steve Joyce st...@joyces.demon.co.uk wrote: RISC OS 4.39 RPC Strongarm Using Netsurf-2012-09-30_10-23-17/zip Tried just a few websites. Looks ok on Demon and Amazon. Amazon site appears to work ok. However, streetmap.co.uk produced all the furniture but no map. None of the controls appear to do anything. Accepts postcode entry but does not produce map. I've got apparently full functionality from http://www.streetmap.co.uk/newdefaulte2.htm Dave Share photos screenshots in seconds... TRY FREE IM TOOLPACK at http://www.imtoolpack.com/default.aspx?rc=if1 Works in all emails, instant messengers, blogs, forums and social networks.
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netsurf-2012-10-02_20-23-02/zip now working OK with http://www.independent.co.uk/ . -- Gavin Wraith (ga...@wra1th.plus.com) Home page: http://www.wra1th.plus.com/
Re: User feedback requested (esp. RISC OS)
On 1 Oct 2012 Michael Drake wrote: In article 8806ded752.r...@user.minijem.plus.com, Richard Porter r...@minijem.plus.com wrote: We seem to have got the old Netsurf is running out of memory bug back again. I have 71MB of free memory. This is occurring in cPanel when I select a folder to password-protect. The problem is repeatable. The 23rd March build is fine. Can you reproduce it with a saved copy of the page? Yes. It fails with or without all the images and css. I've sent you the html source from a full save. -- Richard Porterhttp://www.minijem.plus.com/ mailto:r...@minijem.plus.com I don't want a user experience - I just want stuff that works.
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In a mad moment - Richard Porter mumbled : Yes. It fails with or without all the images and css. I've sent you the html source from a full save. Tried the second Sept 30th release and seems ok - RiscPC, StrongArm, RO4·02, 130Mb memory. Subjective observation says very fast, especially with Images. Thanks!! -- |)[ |)ryn [vansmail to - brynev...@bryork.freeuk.com
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On 1 Oct 2012 Bryn Evans wrote: In a mad moment - Richard Porter mumbled : Yes. It fails with or without all the images and css. I've sent you the html source from a full save. Tried the second Sept 30th release and seems ok - RiscPC, StrongArm, RO4·02, 130Mb memory. Subjective observation says very fast, especially with Images. Thanks!! I have a problem. I added the index of development releases to the hotlist, but now when I click on the entry it does nothing. It seems that NetSurf can't bookmark a directory index. I'll find the link as the original post won't have expired yet. -- Richard Porterhttp://www.minijem.plus.com/ mailto:r...@minijem.plus.com I don't want a user experience - I just want stuff that works.
Re: User feedback requested (esp. RISC OS)
On 1 Oct 2012 David H Wild wrote: I have had no crashes but there is a silly with Flickr which doesn't produce the individual images - although it does show the images on the index page. With the March version I could see the pictures but there was a message telling me to use Javascript for the best results. This message has now disappeared, but I'd rather have the pictures. Yes, I've noticed the same thing. Another curious thing happened. I have some forms on my local home page for Google, Wikipedia, eBay, etc. They all have text input fields which are the same length. I'd left out the type=text on one form but previously it made no difference so I hadn't noticed the error. With the new version that particular field came out half the width of the others. I've now corrected the page. -- Richard Porterhttp://www.minijem.plus.com/ mailto:r...@minijem.plus.com I don't want a user experience - I just want stuff that works.
Re: User feedback requested (esp. RISC OS)
In article 52d6e2c396t...@netsurf-browser.org, Michael Drake t...@netsurf-browser.org wrote: Hi, We have done quite a bit of development since we last issued test builds and we have also changed our autobuilding infrastructure completely. With these changes we are now building NetSurf builds with far more up-to-date versions of 3rd party libraries, and it is now quite trivial to keep them up-to-date. It would help us if people could test the new builds and let us know how you get on. CAUTION: SAVE ALL WORK BEFORE RUNNING THESE BUILDS We have at least one case of NetSurf freezing a RISC OS Iyonix such that it needs to be reset. On a Pandaboard with RISC OS 5.19 using http://ci.netsurf-browser.org/builds/riscos/netsurf-2012-09-30_10-23-17.zip it's possible to trigger a freeze every time by loading any web page and pressing return several times in a !Nettle (http://www.riscos.info/packages/NetworkDetails.html#Nettle) window. I've been using the latest version of netsurf built with the autobulder (revision 5854 and gcc 4.6.4) locally for some time. I haven't had any lockups at all with this. Chris. --
Re: User feedback requested (esp. RISC OS)
In article 52d74d441achr...@care4free.net, Chris Gransden chr...@care4free.net wrote: I've been using the latest version of netsurf built with the autobulder (revision 5854 and gcc 4.6.4) locally for some time. I haven't had any lockups at all with this. Interesting. What do you mean by the latest version? The latest NetSurf from our Git repo? -- Michael Drake (tlsa) http://www.netsurf-browser.org/
Re: User feedback requested (esp. RISC OS)
front end: RISC OS OS version:5.18 problem: freeze while scrolling through http://www.independent.co.uk/ download file: netsurf-2012-09-28_19-54-37/zip Note that POPstar was not running - so no clash with other fetchers. So far freezes seem to happen after just the slightest scrolling down the page; sometimes after quite lengthy and varied browsing, sometimes, as in this case, on the first page opened (so doubtful if any gc can have taken place). This apparent randomness gives me the hunch that it has something to do with buffers being allocated where they should not be, but maybe such a comment is unhelpful without any evidence. Sometimes pressing the reset button works - sometimes I have to toggle the on/off switch at the back. -- Gavin Wraith (ga...@wra1th.plus.com) Home page: http://www.wra1th.plus.com/
Re: User feedback requested (esp. RISC OS)
In article 52d74e4138t...@netsurf-browser.org, Michael Drake t...@netsurf-browser.org wrote: Interesting. What do you mean by the latest version? The latest NetSurf from our Git repo? I'm using the latest version of NetSurf and libraries from the Git repo. Chris.
Re: User feedback requested (esp. RISC OS)
In message 52d74d441achr...@care4free.net Chris Gransden chr...@care4free.net wrote: On a Pandaboard with RISC OS 5.19 using http://ci.netsurf-browser.org/builds/riscos/netsurf-2012-09-30_10-23-17.zip it's possible to trigger a freeze every time by loading any web page and pressing return several times in a !Nettle (http://www.riscos.info/packages/NetworkDetails.html#Nettle) window. I've been using the latest version of netsurf built with the autobulder (revision 5854 and gcc 4.6.4) locally for some time. I haven't had any lockups at all with this. FYI, gcc 4.6.4 is a development snapshot so might contain problems producing wrong binaries. John. -- John Tytgat j...@netsurf-browser.org
Re: User feedback requested (esp. RISC OS)
In article 52d74f974dchr...@care4free.net, Chris Gransden chr...@care4free.net wrote: In article 52d74e4138t...@netsurf-browser.org, Michael Drake t...@netsurf-browser.org wrote: Interesting. What do you mean by the latest version? The latest NetSurf from our Git repo? I'm using the latest version of NetSurf and libraries from the Git repo. Sounds promising. What versions of 3rd party libraries are you using? Please could you follow these steps: 1. Run your version of NetSurf. 2. Visit URL: about:testament 3. Save the page. 4. Quit NetSurf. 5. Double click !NetSurf.OpenScrap 6. Open the Log file in the directory that opens. 7. Copy the line that says something like: (0.3) content/fetchers/curl.c fetch_curl_register 167: curl_version libcurl/7.20.1 OpenSSL/0.9.8n zlib/1.2.3.3 c-ares/1.6.0 It should be near the top, line 5. 8. Copy the saved testament and line from the Log file into an e-mail. Cheers, -- Michael Drake (tlsa) http://www.netsurf-browser.org/
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In message 406ffdd652.davem...@my.inbox.com Dave Higton d...@davehigton.me.uk wrote: In message 989ef9d652.davem...@my.inbox.com Dave Higton d...@davehigton.me.uk wrote: In message 52d6e2c396t...@netsurf-browser.org Michael Drake t...@netsurf-browser.org wrote: Hi, We have done quite a bit of development since we last issued test builds and we have also changed our autobuilding infrastructure completely. With these changes we are now building NetSurf builds with far more up-to-date versions of 3rd party libraries, and it is now quite trivial to keep them up-to-date. It would help us if people could test the new builds and let us know how you get on. CAUTION: SAVE ALL WORK BEFORE RUNNING THESE BUILDS We have at least one case of NetSurf freezing a RISC OS Iyonix such that it needs to be reset. Sadly, I've also seen it once with the earliest new build that I can see, 2012-09-11_14-52-47, as well as 3 times with 2012-09-28_19-54-37. At least it hasn't eaten the hard drive :-) There doesn't seem to be any special thing that causes it to stiff the Iyonix. In response to another question: no fetching of news or mail was going on at the time. The only network activity unrelated to Netsurf would probably be ShareFS's normal broadcasting. NewsHound and AntiSpam were on the icon bar but merely quiescent. Checked a few minutes ago with 2012-09-30_10-23-17 and again got a freeze. This time the only app also on the icon bar was Zap. The freeze occurred a few seconds after rendering a page from the BBC News web site. Iyonix, 5.18, 512 MiB. Dave FREE 3D EARTH SCREENSAVER - Watch the Earth right on your desktop! Check it out at http://www.inbox.com/earth
User feedback requested (esp. RISC OS)
Hi, We have done quite a bit of development since we last issued test builds and we have also changed our autobuilding infrastructure completely. With these changes we are now building NetSurf builds with far more up-to-date versions of 3rd party libraries, and it is now quite trivial to keep them up-to-date. It would help us if people could test the new builds and let us know how you get on. CAUTION: SAVE ALL WORK BEFORE RUNNING THESE BUILDS We have at least one case of NetSurf freezing a RISC OS Iyonix such that it needs to be reset. New builds are available from: http://ci.netsurf-browser.org/ (Use the latest one available) If you try one of the new builds, please let us know: + which front end (e.g. RISC OS, Amiga, etc) + which version of the OS + whether there was a problem what was happening when it went wrong + what the download file name of the NetSurf version you tried was Cheers, -- Michael Drake (tlsa) http://www.netsurf-browser.org/
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Hi all, Version 3.0 (development) seems to work fine (and fast) on my RISC OS 5.18 computer. Keep up the good work (just add java script). Kind regards, Paul Sprangers
Re: User feedback requested (esp. RISC OS)
On 29 Sep 2012 Paul Sprangers p...@sprie.nl wrote: Hi all, Version 3.0 (development) seems to work fine (and fast) on my RISC OS 5.18 computer. Keep up the good work (just add java script). Also here, ARMini, RISC OS 5.19. Glad to see that test builds are available again, many thanks. With best wishes, Peter. -- Peter \ / zfc Ta \ Prestbury, Cheltenham, Glos. GL52 and \/ ____ \ England. family / / \ | | |\ | / _ \ http://pnyoung.orpheusweb.co.uk / \__/ \_/ | \| \__/ \__ pnyo...@ormail.co.uk
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[snip] It would help us if people could test the new builds and let us know how you get on. I have just downloaded and briefly used Netsurf from archive netsurf-2012-09-28_19-54-37/zip. So far it has been in use for about 35 minutes, visiting several sites without problem. -- Brian Jordan Virtual RPC-AdjustSA RISC OS 6.20
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front end: RISC OS OS version:5.18 problem: freeze while scrolling through https://www.riscosopen.org/forum/forums/1/topics/1321 download file: netsurf-2012-09-28_19-54-37/zip It certainly feels faster than 2.9. -- Gavin Wraith (ga...@wra1th.plus.com) Home page: http://www.wra1th.plus.com/
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In article 2999e6d652.wra...@wra1th.plus.com, Gavin Wraith ga...@wra1th.plus.com wrote: front end: RISC OS OS version:5.18 problem: freeze while scrolling through Is there any chance this happened at the same time as other network activity? For example while fetching mail? If so, please can you say what other software and what versions? Cheers, -- Michael Drake (tlsa) http://www.netsurf-browser.org/
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In article 46b9e6d652.pnyo...@pnyoung.ormail.co.uk, Peter Young pnyo...@ormail.co.uk wrote: Might have spoken too soon. I sent this message using Hermes, and when NewsHound kicked in, the machine froze. Thanks, can you say what versions of Hermes and NewsHound you have? Cheers, -- Michael Drake (tlsa) http://www.netsurf-browser.org/
Re: User feedback requested (esp. RISC OS)
In message 52d6e2c396t...@netsurf-browser.org Michael Drake t...@netsurf-browser.org wrote: Hi, We have done quite a bit of development since we last issued test builds and we have also changed our autobuilding infrastructure completely. With these changes we are now building NetSurf builds with far more up-to-date versions of 3rd party libraries, and it is now quite trivial to keep them up-to-date. It would help us if people could test the new builds and let us know how you get on. CAUTION: SAVE ALL WORK BEFORE RUNNING THESE BUILDS We have at least one case of NetSurf freezing a RISC OS Iyonix such that it needs to be reset. Yes, ditto here - twice. Both times with Messenger Pro 6.06 and !NetFetch 3.65. Iyonix, RO5.18. -- Allan Bennett
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On 29 Sep 2012 Michael Drake t...@netsurf-browser.org wrote: In article 46b9e6d652.pnyo...@pnyoung.ormail.co.uk, Peter Young pnyo...@ormail.co.uk wrote: Might have spoken too soon. I sent this message using Hermes, and when NewsHound kicked in, the machine froze. Thanks, can you say what versions of Hermes and NewsHound you have? Sorry, should have said. Hermes 2.65 (11 April, 2012) NewsHound 1.42 ( Can't find the date, as it removes itself from the icon bar too quickly!) Both in NetFetch 3.65 (26 April, 2012) With best wishes, Peter. -- Peter \ / zfc Ta \ Prestbury, Cheltenham, Glos. GL52 and \/ ____ \ England. family / / \ | | |\ | / _ \ http://pnyoung.orpheusweb.co.uk / \__/ \_/ | \| \__/ \__ pnyo...@ormail.co.uk
Re: User feedback requested (esp. RISC OS)
In message 52d6e2c396t...@netsurf-browser.org Michael Drake t...@netsurf-browser.org wrote: Hi, We have done quite a bit of development since we last issued test builds and we have also changed our autobuilding infrastructure completely. With these changes we are now building NetSurf builds with far more up-to-date versions of 3rd party libraries, and it is now quite trivial to keep them up-to-date. It would help us if people could test the new builds and let us know how you get on. CAUTION: SAVE ALL WORK BEFORE RUNNING THESE BUILDS We have at least one case of NetSurf freezing a RISC OS Iyonix such that it needs to be reset. New builds are available from: http://ci.netsurf-browser.org/ (Use the latest one available) If you try one of the new builds, please let us know: + which front end (e.g. RISC OS, Amiga, etc) + which version of the OS + whether there was a problem what was happening when it went wrong + what the download file name of the NetSurf version you tried was Cheers, I'm using the 3.0 development build 2012-09-28_19-54-37 on RPCEmu 0.8.9/RISC OS 4.02 on a Windows 7 (64-bit) PC. Got a run of 'Base stylesheet failed to load' errors, but quitting and reloading Netsurf 3.0 restored normal service. Seems fine so far, and nippier than 2.9. Good work! George -- george greenfield
Re: User feedback requested (esp. RISC OS)
Peter Young, on 29 Sep, wrote: On 29 Sep 2012 Peter Young pnyo...@ormail.co.uk wrote: On 29 Sep 2012 Paul Sprangers p...@sprie.nl wrote: Hi all, Version 3.0 (development) seems to work fine (and fast) on my RISC OS 5.18 computer. Keep up the good work (just add java script). Also here, ARMini, RISC OS 5.19. Glad to see that test builds are available again, many thanks. Might have spoken too soon. I sent this message using Hermes, and when NewsHound kicked in, the machine froze. The message evidently went, but is still in Messenger Pro's queue. Going back to NetSurf 2.9 for the time being, I regret. NetSurf 3.0 (Development) has stiffed my ARMini twice now trying to get onto ROOL's site, https://www.riscosopen.org/content/ and that had nothing to do with mail or usenet fetching. Sometimes that site has been reachable, just guessing is https perhaps an issue, other sites seem OK. I cannot browse the web at all on VRPC on my Mac with 3.0, resolving times out after 3ms, 2.9 is fine. I will see if I can drum up more info later but right now it is time for Dr Who. -- David Pitt
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In article 021eead652.supe...@albenito.eclipse2k.freeserve.co.uk, Yes, ditto here - twice. Both times with Messenger Pro 6.06 and !NetFetch 3.65. Iyonix, RO5.18. This freeze has been reported on RISC OS 5.18 and 5.19. Can anyone reproduce it with RISC OS 4 or RISC OS 6? Cheers, -- Michael Drake (tlsa) http://www.netsurf-browser.org/
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The following bytes were arranged on 29 Sep 2012 by Michael Drake : It would help us if people could test the new builds and let us know how you get on. I've tried everything suggested in this thread to make this RO5.19 ARMini crash, including fetching email (though with AntiSpam 1.63, not Hermes) and logging into the ROOL site. It stubbornly refused to crash for about two hours, until suddenly the mouse pointer froze after clicking on a Google Groups link (from a list of Google search results). Given that I've also had problems with the previous development version (from the old autobuilder) freezing the ARMini (not so much the Iyonix or RiscPC), I don't think you can read too much into this. + which front end (e.g. RISC OS, Amiga, etc) RISC OS. + which version of the OS 5.19 (16-May-12) + whether there was a problem Infinite loop with interrupts disabled. what was happening when it went wrong Nothing in particular, especially not reported triggers like NewsHound. + what the download file name of the NetSurf version you tried was 2012-09-28_19-54-37 -- __^__ Your pet, our passion. - Purina / _ _ \ Your potential, our passion. - Microsoft, a few months later ( ( |_| ) ) \_ _/ === Martin Bazley ==
Re: User feedback requested (esp. RISC OS)
In message 52d6e2c396t...@netsurf-browser.org Michael Drake t...@netsurf-browser.org wrote: Hi, We have done quite a bit of development since we last issued test builds and we have also changed our autobuilding infrastructure completely. With these changes we are now building NetSurf builds with far more up-to-date versions of 3rd party libraries, and it is now quite trivial to keep them up-to-date. It would help us if people could test the new builds and let us know how you get on. CAUTION: SAVE ALL WORK BEFORE RUNNING THESE BUILDS We have at least one case of NetSurf freezing a RISC OS Iyonix such that it needs to be reset. I've seen the same three times now with 2012-09-28_19-54-37. First occurrence was during loading of this version for the first time; other occurrences have been during browsing. This Iyonix does not normally freeze like that at all (mouse cursor froze, no response to NumLock). Iyonix, RO 5.18 (16-Jan-12), 512 MiB. Dave FREE 3D MARINE AQUARIUM SCREENSAVER - Watch dolphins, sharks orcas on your desktop! Check it out at http://www.inbox.com/marineaquarium
Re: User feedback requested (esp. RISC OS)
In message 52d6e2c396t...@netsurf-browser.org Michael Drake t...@netsurf-browser.org wrote: Hi, We have done quite a bit of development since we last issued test builds and we have also changed our autobuilding infrastructure completely. With these changes we are now building NetSurf builds with far more up-to-date versions of 3rd party libraries, and it is now quite trivial to keep them up-to-date. It would help us if people could test the new builds and let us know how you get on. CAUTION: SAVE ALL WORK BEFORE RUNNING THESE BUILDS We have at least one case of NetSurf freezing a RISC OS Iyonix such that it needs to be reset. Sadly, I've also seen it once with the earliest new build that I can see, 2012-09-11_14-52-47, as well as 3 times with 2012-09-28_19-54-37. At least it hasn't eaten the hard drive :-) There doesn't seem to be any special thing that causes it to stiff the Iyonix. I've reverted to r1571. Iyonix, RO 5.18, 512 MiB. Dave FREE ONLINE PHOTOSHARING - Share your photos online with your friends and family! Visit http://www.inbox.com/photosharing to find out more!
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The following bytes were arranged on 29 Sep 2012 by Michael Drake : It would help us if people could test the new builds and let us know how you get on. ...And now for a more mundane, and tiresomely repetitive regression... http://www.andyfanton.com Serious error. Every time, without fail. Same computer and archive as in my last report. The log (same every time) says: render/html.c, line 1269: html_object_callback: Assertion failed: 0 2.9 works. Instant crashes with this particular website have been reported on three separate previous occasions: http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detailaid=3182729group_id=51719atid=464312 http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detailaid=3238323group_id=51719atid=464312 http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detailaid=3376796group_id=51719atid=464312 Each time, the bug was fixed, only for another version a few months down the line to introduce a different bug which also caused NetSurf to crash on sight of that site. It appears this cycle has now gone round for a fourth time. I've never had problems of this scale with any other site. Whatever andyfanton.com does, NetSurf really doesn't like it! In the interests of preventing this regression occurring a fifth time, perhaps 'Jenkins' could be amended to make sure NetSurf can cope with a fetch and display of that specific page? Stopping regressions what automated testing is for, right? -- __^__ / _ _ \ You always find something in the last place you look. ( ( |_| ) ) \_ _/ === Martin Bazley ==
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In message 989ef9d652.davem...@my.inbox.com Dave Higton d...@davehigton.me.uk wrote: In message 52d6e2c396t...@netsurf-browser.org Michael Drake t...@netsurf-browser.org wrote: Hi, We have done quite a bit of development since we last issued test builds and we have also changed our autobuilding infrastructure completely. With these changes we are now building NetSurf builds with far more up-to-date versions of 3rd party libraries, and it is now quite trivial to keep them up-to-date. It would help us if people could test the new builds and let us know how you get on. CAUTION: SAVE ALL WORK BEFORE RUNNING THESE BUILDS We have at least one case of NetSurf freezing a RISC OS Iyonix such that it needs to be reset. Sadly, I've also seen it once with the earliest new build that I can see, 2012-09-11_14-52-47, as well as 3 times with 2012-09-28_19-54-37. At least it hasn't eaten the hard drive :-) There doesn't seem to be any special thing that causes it to stiff the Iyonix. In response to another question: no fetching of news or mail was going on at the time. The only network activity unrelated to Netsurf would probably be ShareFS's normal broadcasting. NewsHound and AntiSpam were on the icon bar but merely quiescent. Dave FREE 3D EARTH SCREENSAVER - Watch the Earth right on your desktop! Check it out at http://www.inbox.com/earth
Re: User feedback requested (esp. RISC OS)
In article 52d6f5c6cdt...@netsurf-browser.org, Michael Drake t...@netsurf-browser.org wrote: Yes, ditto here - twice. Both times with Messenger Pro 6.06 and !NetFetch 3.65. Iyonix, RO5.18. This freeze has been reported on RISC OS 5.18 and 5.19. Can anyone reproduce it with RISC OS 4 or RISC OS 6? Well, I've been out all evening and only just got back in but I'll give it a try and see out it goes - RO4.39 -- Stuart Winsor Only plain text for emails http://www.asciiribbon.org
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On 29 Sep 2012 Michael Drake wrote: It would help us if people could test the new builds and let us know how you get on. A heading with font size=6 comes out massively smaller than it did in earlier versions. I haven't had any lockups yet. RO6.14 -- Richard Porterhttp://www.minijem.plus.com/ mailto:r...@minijem.plus.com I don't want a user experience - I just want stuff that works.
