Re: Moving Nettime to the Fediverse
gt; > > So, we hope this is the beginning of change in every sense, hopefully > including > > > some of the imbalances that have plagued the mailing list for many > years. > > > There's no clear path or process ahead, so this is a free-form, open > invitation > > > to get involved. As they say: be the change you want to see on nettime. > > > > > > See you on the other side > > > > > > Doma, Felix & Ted > > > > > > > > # distributed via : no commercial use without permission > > > #is a moderated mailing list for net criticism, > > > # collaborative text filtering and cultural politics of the nets > > > # more info: http://mx.kein.org/mailman/listinfo/nettime-l > > > # archive: http://www.nettime.org contact: nett...@kein.org > > > # @nettime_bot tweets mail w/ sender unless #ANON is in Subject: > > > > # distributed via : no commercial use without permission > > #is a moderated mailing list for net criticism, > > # collaborative text filtering and cultural politics of the nets > > # more info: http://mx.kein.org/mailman/listinfo/nettime-l > > # archive: http://www.nettime.org contact: nett...@kein.org > > # @nettime_bot tweets mail w/ sender unless #ANON is in Subject: > > # distributed via : no commercial use without permission > #is a moderated mailing list for net criticism, > # collaborative text filtering and cultural politics of the nets > # more info: http://mx.kein.org/mailman/listinfo/nettime-l > # archive: http://www.nettime.org contact: nett...@kein.org > # @nettime_bot tweets mail w/ sender unless #ANON is in Subject: > -- Jon Lebkowsky (@jonl) Cofounder and Cohost, Plutopia News Network <https://plutopia.io> Website <https://weblogsky.com> | Twitter <http://twitter.com/jonl> | LinkedIn <http://www.linkedin.com/in/jonlebkowsky> | Facebook <http://www.facebook.com/jonlebkowsky> | Tumblr <http://weblogsky.tumblr.com/> | Wikipedia <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jon_Lebkowsky> # distributed via : no commercial use without permission #is a moderated mailing list for net criticism, # collaborative text filtering and cultural politics of the nets # more info: http://mx.kein.org/mailman/listinfo/nettime-l # archive: http://www.nettime.org contact: nett...@kein.org # @nettime_bot tweets mail w/ sender unless #ANON is in Subject:
Re: Well, so long, "California Ideology"
I did a lot of web consulting and project management for years, and that definitely became boring work. But I suppose when things become truly useful they also become boring - Bruce once gave a talk where he said that we'd know solar tech had arrived when it became really boring to consider. On Thu, Jan 6, 2022 at 12:30 PM carl guderian wrote: > And speaking of flashbacks, doesn’t Mark Zuckerberg’s Meta, a catalog of > online activities imagined long ago by others but now to be mediated by > not-Facebook, sound awfully like Bill Gates’ vision of the Internet as a > collection of 1970s- and 1980s-era electronic services channeled through > Microsoft, in “The Road Ahead”? > > But I can live with boring. I’ve had a 25-year run (probably wrapping up) > in “the cyber” working as the equivalant of an industrial plumber. The pay > was very good, the hours agreeable, and the hype minimal. In good times and > bad, toilets gotta flush. > > Carl > > > On 6 jan. 2022, at 18:46, Jon Lebkowsky wrote: > > What does it say about me that I find that boring? > > On Thu, Jan 6, 2022 at 10:45 AM Bruce Sterling wrote: > >> *It's a recent screed from the current editor of WIRED magazine. >> >> *If you're enough of a greybeard nettime OG to remember nettime's vague >> feud with WIRED and its techno-libertarian principles, this is likely to be >> one of the funniest things you've read in quite a while. >> >> *If you've never heard of the "California Ideology," that prescient work >> of distant 1995, well, I happened to archive it, because, as the guy who >> was on the cover of the first issue of WIRED, why wouldn't I. >> >> >> https://bruces.medium.com/the-californian-ideology-by-richard-barbrook-and-andy-cameron-1995-c50014fcdbce >> >> Bruce S >> >> >> >> >> In the next few decades, virtually every financial, social, and >> governmental institution in the world is going to be radically upended by >> one small but enormously powerful invention: the blockchain. >> >> Do you believe that? Or are you one of those people who think the >> blockchain and crypto boom is just a massive, decade-long fraud—the bastard >> child of the Dutch tulip bubble, Bernie Madoff’s Ponzi scheme, and the >> wackier reaches of the libertarian internet? More likely, you—like me—are >> at neither of these extremes. Rather, you’re longing for someone to just >> show you how to think about the issue intelligently and with nuance instead >> of always falling into the binary trap. >> >> Binaries have been on my mind a lot since I took over the editor’s chair >> at WIRED last March. That’s because we’re at what feels like an inflection >> point in the recent history of technology, when various binaries that have >> long been taken for granted are being called into question. >> >> When WIRED was founded in 1993, it was the bible of techno-utopianism. We >> chronicled and championed inventions that we thought would remake the >> world; all they needed was to be unleashed. Our covers featured the >> brilliant, renegade, visionary—and mostly wealthy, white, and male—geeks >> who were shaping the future, reshaping human nature, and making everyone’s >> life more efficient and fun. They were more daring, more creative, richer >> and cooler than you; in fact, they already lived in the future. By reading >> WIRED, we hinted, you could join them there! >> >> If that optimism was binary 0, since then the mood has switched to binary >> 1. Today, a great deal of media coverage focuses on the damage wrought by a >> tech industry run amok. It’s given us Tahrir Square, but also Xinjiang; the >> blogosphere, but also the manosphere; the boundless opportunities of the >> Long Tail, but also the unremitting precariousness of the gig economy; mRNA >> vaccines, but also Crispr babies. WIRED hasn’t shied away from covering >> these problems. But they’ve forced us—and me in particular, as an incoming >> editor—to ponder the question: What does it mean to be WIRED, a publication >> born to celebrate technology, in an age when tech is often demonized? >> >> To me, the answer begins with rejecting the binary. Both the optimist and >> pessimist views of tech miss the point. The lesson of the last 30-odd years >> is not that we were wrong to think tech could make the world a better >> place. Rather, it’s that we were wrong to think tech itself was the >> solution—and that we’d now be equally wrong to treat tech as the problem. >> It’s not only possible, but normal, for a technology to do both good and >> harm at the same time. A hype cycle that mak
Re: Well, so long, "California Ideology"
ons, though they’ll share many > stories. Our US and UK newsrooms are already working as one, and you’ll see > all their journalism here on this site. With more writers making up a > single team, we’ll be able to go deeper into some of these key areas. > > Above all, we’ll continue to do what WIRED is best at—bringing you > delightful, fascinating, weird, brilliantly told stories from all around > the world of people taking on extraordinary problems. Our founder Louis > Rossetto wrote that WIRED was where you would discover “the soul of our new > society in wild metamorphosis.” The wild metamorphosis continues, and while > its mechanisms may be technological, the soul behind them is deeply and > unavoidably human. Where the human and the technological meet: That’s where > WIRED lives, and it’s where we aim to take you, every day. > > Gideon Lichfield | Global Director, WIRED > > Note: I owe a big debt of gratitude to Tom Coates, who was pivotal in > helping me think about the history of WIRED and see the opportunity for the > role it can play today. > > # distributed via : no commercial use without permission > #is a moderated mailing list for net criticism, > # collaborative text filtering and cultural politics of the nets > # more info: http://mx.kein.org/mailman/listinfo/nettime-l > # archive: http://www.nettime.org contact: nett...@kein.org > # @nettime_bot tweets mail w/ sender unless #ANON is in Subject: -- Jon Lebkowsky (@jonl) Cofounder and Cohost, Plutopia News Network <https://plutopia.io> Website <https://weblogsky.com> | Twitter <http://twitter.com/jonl> | LinkedIn <http://www.linkedin.com/in/jonlebkowsky> | Facebook <http://www.facebook.com/jonlebkowsky> | Tumblr <http://weblogsky.tumblr.com/> | Wikipedia <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jon_Lebkowsky> # distributed via : no commercial use without permission #is a moderated mailing list for net criticism, # collaborative text filtering and cultural politics of the nets # more info: http://mx.kein.org/mailman/listinfo/nettime-l # archive: http://www.nettime.org contact: nett...@kein.org # @nettime_bot tweets mail w/ sender unless #ANON is in Subject:
Re: “Meta”
My interpretation of this change is that the company wants to transcend the FB application. This is probably partly from a concern that the FB app will be regulated out of existence or will otherwise lose users and traction. It's also an acknowledgement that the company has accumulated so much wealth and attention that it doesn't have to lean on the app, it can branch out and do many other things. This could be a jump-the-shark moment, but I've avoided saying so because, in the early days of Facebook's evolution, I predicted its demise several times. Usually because it had done something stupid, but Zuckerberg kept finding his way back. On Tue, Nov 2, 2021 at 5:54 AM mp wrote: > > On 02/11/2021 02:26, Brian Holmes wrote: > > Alphabet was realistic. Meta looks desperate. I have the same impression > as > > you, Michael. It will come to nothing. > > > Could this be more of a necessary share-holder reference/pointer, > opening new doors and preparing a pathway to shed FB if it becomes too > much of a liability? From an organisational PoV is makes sense, right? > > From another perspective: In a sense it already came to something. > > Facebook as a medium of social relations has already grabbed much space > and intentions. > > In many places and for what concerns many topics, struggles and > mobilisations, what is called 'activism' and which used to be organised > in groups meeting in dark cellars with the phone batteries removed, is > now often exclusively done on Facefuck. Not on, you're out of the loop. > > Once the "resistance" lives deep inside the beally of the matrix beast, > then, ha, it must be time for Resistance 2.0 > > But what the Facefuck do I know, I've never been on it. > > "...So I decided to take my work back underground, To stop it falling > into the wrong hands..." > # distributed via : no commercial use without permission > #is a moderated mailing list for net criticism, > # collaborative text filtering and cultural politics of the nets > # more info: http://mx.kein.org/mailman/listinfo/nettime-l > # archive: http://www.nettime.org contact: nett...@kein.org > # @nettime_bot tweets mail w/ sender unless #ANON is in Subject: > -- Jon Lebkowsky (@jonl) Cofounder and Cohost, Plutopia News Network <https://plutopia.io> Website <https://weblogsky.com> | Twitter <http://twitter.com/jonl> | LinkedIn <http://www.linkedin.com/in/jonlebkowsky> | Facebook <http://www.facebook.com/jonlebkowsky> | Tumblr <http://weblogsky.tumblr.com/> | Wikipedia <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jon_Lebkowsky> # distributed via : no commercial use without permission #is a moderated mailing list for net criticism, # collaborative text filtering and cultural politics of the nets # more info: http://mx.kein.org/mailman/listinfo/nettime-l # archive: http://www.nettime.org contact: nett...@kein.org # @nettime_bot tweets mail w/ sender unless #ANON is in Subject:
Re: what exactly is breaking?
As an Austin resident, I'm sure your analysis is generally spot-on. However I'm not clear how it explains why there was looting and burning here in Austin. You didn't quite make the connection. On Tue, Jun 2, 2020 at 1:39 AM EduAustin Alliance wrote: > > Sorry to be overly Marxist about it, but here's my .02 > > -- > > The case in Minneapolis, the killing of George Floyd, was the result of a > bad apple - a story of one officer who took things too far, and the spoiled > bushel around him that enabled his crime. <> # distributed via : no commercial use without permission #is a moderated mailing list for net criticism, # collaborative text filtering and cultural politics of the nets # more info: http://mx.kein.org/mailman/listinfo/nettime-l # archive: http://www.nettime.org contact: nett...@kein.org # @nettime_bot tweets mail w/ sender unless #ANON is in Subject:
Re: Cyberpunks who were right about everything, but so what
I've been here for a long time, too, and oddly silent because my attention span fell to ~0, infected by Internet worms. FringeWare is less than a shadow of a memory for those who were ever aware of it, and the new kids on the blockchain don't know it existed. boing boing is no longer the most popular blog on the Internet; the whole concept of blog was colonized by big media/big publishing as the Internet mainstreamed over the years. The Internet Revolution had no Zapata, no consistent ideology, no real idealism. It wasn't a revolution at all, just a bunch of over-privileged white guys with idealistic streaks that were quick to evaporate when there was Real Money to be made. On Mon, Mar 4, 2019 at 10:51 AM Bruce Sterling wrote: > > > Keith Hart > Re: Facebook’s “toxic” global lobbying > > (…) > > Since 1914-18, there has only been one political question. Which form will > rule the world. By analogy, do you think the Roman empire would allow a > civil war in Italy? Americans are so parochial. It suits their rulers for > them to be so. > > It is pointless to predict the forms of violence, but the prize is to rule > the world with minimal opposition. It is true that the cyberpunk writers > were right long ago. But timing is everything in life and where are they > now? > > *** > > *As a cyberpunk ideologue, I’m touched that this subject would come up on > nettime. As it happens, I know where all the cyberpunks are. At the > moment, they’re in London, San Francisco, Vancouver, Providence, Austin, > Raleigh, Los Gatos, Seattle, and the village of Nottingham, New Hampshire. > > *Now, I don’t want to boast about the revolutionary political insights of > us subgeneric science fiction writers. Far be that from me. However, I > would point out that not a single one of us cyberpunks is dead. “Gone,” > sort of, yes, but dead, not even. Not one single homicide, suicide, drug > overdose, extralegal police execution — and you’ll have to admit that, for > a group of creative writers, that’s pretty amazing. > > *Compare that to other gangs of writers that we cyberpunks are so > frequently compared to: Beatniks and Situationists. The body count among > them? Unbelievable. Us cyberpunk futurists? Still here! All of us! In > the future! The worst we suffer is guys on nettime imagining that we > disappeared culturally, just because we’re old. > > *Because we ARE old. It’s 2019 and us cyberpunks are white-haired people > in our sixties and seventies. It’s entirely proper that we should be > petting fireside cats and tending garden roses instead of pitching bricks > in the tear gas. If you want to read some with-it contemporary science > fiction writer with a cyber tinge, you might try to read, say, Annalee > Newitz. Good luck with that. > > *Or read some CHINESE science fiction writers, who are of severe > tactical-media interest because they’ve got blockbuster Chinese sci-fi > novels and blockbuster Chinese FX movie spectacles, not to mention Huawei, > Baidu, Alibaba and Tencent. I’m waiting for the day when nettime catches > on that computation is happening outside the aged, wrinkled > California-ideology. I’m sure that will happen one of these days. I have > faith, because I was the VERY FIRST AMERICAN GUY EVER ON NETTIME, that’s > how long I’ve been around here. If you don’t know where I am on 2019, it’s > because I don’t WANT you to know. > > BruceS > > > > # distributed via : no commercial use without permission > #is a moderated mailing list for net criticism, > # collaborative text filtering and cultural politics of the nets > # more info: http://mx.kein.org/mailman/listinfo/nettime-l > # archive: http://www.nettime.org contact: nett...@kein.org > # @nettime_bot tweets mail w/ sender unless #ANON is in Subject: -- Jon Lebkowsky (@jonl) CEO, Polycot Associates <http://polycotassociates.com> CoFounder, EFF-Austin <http://effaustin.org> | Twitter <http://twitter.com/jonl> | LinkedIn <http://www.linkedin.com/in/jonlebkowsky> | Facebook <http://www.facebook.com/jonlebkowsky> | Google+ <https://plus.google.com/107989370857115020482/posts> | Tumblr <http://weblogsky.tumblr.com/> | # distributed via : no commercial use without permission #is a moderated mailing list for net criticism, # collaborative text filtering and cultural politics of the nets # more info: http://mx.kein.org/mailman/listinfo/nettime-l # archive: http://www.nettime.org contact: nett...@kein.org # @nettime_bot tweets mail w/ sender unless #ANON is in Subject:
Re: nettime G8 vs INTERNET--call for creative action
Doug Rushkoff et al. are holding an event based on a CNN article Doug wrotehttp://articles.cnn.com/2011-02-05/opinion/rushkoff.egypt.internet_1_internet-wikileaks-networks?_s=PM:OPINIONsimilar to Geert's comments below, and giving $10,000 seed money to each of three or four of the most promising and need worthy projects that show up. The event is called Contact Summit, http://contactcon.com, to be held Oct 20 in NYC. I've working with Doug and Venessa Miemis to encourage and support worldwide meetups sync'd to the conference. ~ Jon On Fri, May 20, 2011 at 7:58 AM, Geert Lovink ge...@xs4all.nl wrote: http://g8internet.com/ G8 vs INTERNET Our imaginations help us protect our rights and a free Internet ... -- Jon Lebkowsky (@jonl) Polycot Associates http://polycotassociates.com Twitter http://twitter.com/jonl | LinkedInhttp://www.linkedin.com/in/jonlebkowsky|Facebookhttp://www.facebook.com/jonlebkowsky|Wikipediahttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jon_Lebkowsky| Blog http://weblogsky.com | EFF-Austin http://effaustin.org # distributed via nettime: no commercial use without permission # nettime is a moderated mailing list for net criticism, # collaborative text filtering and cultural politics of the nets # more info: http://mx.kein.org/mailman/listinfo/nettime-l # archive: http://www.nettime.org contact: nett...@kein.org
