Re: Stormy weather?
To reply to the Stormy Weather, both as a forecast and as allegory ... Brian wrote: "Today, under the pressure of climate change, broader fronts are emerging, which include not only peasant and indigenous struggles, but also metropolitan minorities and, crucially I think, elements of the middle classes who see the looming dead-end of industrial modernism - something that has not been very perceptible to the old working classes. These emergent alliances from below are threatened, not only by the police, but even more, by the paralyzing power of psychic distress ... this reminds me of the 2023 book "Deluge" [1] by Stephen Markley [2] (available @ libgen .rs) Highly recommended! I am still reading it, so no spoilers if you've finished it already! It's a child of "The Road" & "Ministry of the future"... thicker than both, dark & dystopian & full of love stories... And here are a few select quotes: > “We are not at a crossroads,” Pietrus writes in his introduction. “We long ago took the wrong fork. Now we must do everything in our power, including sacrificing our comfort, our livelihoods, our economy, and partial, carefully excised pieces of our democracy, to save our species and all species.” > “the biosphere doesn’t give a shit about the craven vicissitudes of the American political system” > We are committed to taking capital, and therefore political power, out of the hands of a fossil-fuel oligarchy. That is the global recipe to attack a primary source of misogyny, racism, and endemic inequality. Distributed systems of energy will redistribute political and economic power faster and more decisively than any other action, period. ... (including Ecofeminism)... > The history of capital accumulation has also been a history of women’s subordination and environmental degradation. Those three things are so intimately connected that you can’t unwind them. We are a colonized gender. we are in the process of achieving the dream of all oppressed peoples: we’re moving into the Master’s house, when really what we should be doing is burning the house down. Instead, we’re clamoring to be a part of the patriarchal, phallocentric political, economic, and social ecology: (...) capitalist patriarchy. But there has to be an “other” for that system to maintain because it sees a world of scarcity and the only solution is an inequitable hoarding of resources. Part of that “other” will always be women, and bitches are kidding ourselves if we think otherwise. If a system views everything in the biosphere as a resource, whether it’s buffalo, maize, fresh water, a gas deposit, or our internet data, it’s going to view women as extractive resources as well” On 16/02/2023 11:50, mp wrote: Always. Things come and go, civilizations come and go. As one falls the next is already in the making. One can throw oneself in there where one thinks it will matter in the next world, in the next meantime. ... another (un)civilization quote, therefore cross-posting: > "I could name all the events that have destroyed families and lives and homes over the past ten or twenty years, but what’s the point? All of this is only the beginning. That’s what breaks my heart so much. We’re not here to prevent that future anymore—because we can’t. All we have left to fight is our own oblivion. Our civilization devouring itself as we run from storms and fires, as we die starving and thirsty and fearful and alone." I also recommend his previous book, "Ohio" -> specially in light of the recent poison cloud... Sharing our pains, sharing our joys, Vesna [1] https://www.salon.com/2023/01/31/the-deluge-is-a-climate-nightmare--and-its-based-on-reality_partner/ [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stephen_Markley OpenPGP_0x65F115E1320B54A5.asc Description: OpenPGP public key OpenPGP_signature Description: OpenPGP digital signature # distributed via : no commercial use without permission #is a moderated mailing list for net criticism, # collaborative text filtering and cultural politics of the nets # more info: http://mx.kein.org/mailman/listinfo/nettime-l # archive: http://www.nettime.org contact: nett...@kein.org # @nettime_bot tweets mail w/ sender unless #ANON is in Subject:
Re: Extinction Internet
Dear Geert, all, On 24/11/2022 17:39, Geert Lovink wrote: > We need tools that decolonize, redistribute value, conspire and organize. I admire your work on this, and will study it later, for in-detail response. Right now, quick contributions, that I think resonate with the "Extinction Internet" : * my "paper" submitted for the upcoming workshop by Internet Architecture Board on “Environmental Impact of Internet Applications and Systems": https://www.iab.org/activities/workshops/e-impact/ , calling for implementing Solidarity, Limitations, Reparations as 3 principles for (technical) Internet Governance: https://wiki.techinc.nl/File:BECHA_Internet_Infrastructure_and_Climate_Justice_IAB.pdf * my article "Towards Climate Justice in Tech", practically a report from four events related to "Sustainable Web", "green tech" and "social responsibility" , and at the same time a call for moving away from endless growth, fossil fuels, extractivism and techno-solutions : https://labs.ripe.net/author/becha/towards-climate-justice-in-tech/ (& an image: https://wiki.techinc.nl/File:Three-principles-expanded.png ) * a video recording of my talk at Bits & Bäume: https://media.ccc.de/v/bitsundbaeume-19907-greening-ripe-though-activism-and-empathy-en- Let's work on this together! Vesna # distributed via : no commercial use without permission #is a moderated mailing list for net criticism, # collaborative text filtering and cultural politics of the nets # more info: http://mx.kein.org/mailman/listinfo/nettime-l # archive: http://www.nettime.org contact: nett...@kein.org # @nettime_bot tweets mail w/ sender unless #ANON is in Subject:
Re: made for TV, made for social media (hall of shame)
Lisa, On Sat, 9 Jan 2021, McLaughlin, Lisa wrote: That would be Aaron Mostofsky, son of Brooklyn Supreme Court judge Shlomo Mostofsky. He stole Pelosi's lectern (if you've seen that pic) while looting. His family claims that he did "nothing illegal." I surmise that he had more involvement than stealing Pelosi's lectern.? He is a QAnon supporter who likes?to be called "the Q Shaman." He's actually a nut-job Trump supporter who shares the usual QAnon deranged perspective. those are 3 different guys https://gothamist.com/news/trump-fur-ever-costumed-capitol-rioter-son-brooklyn-supreme-court-judge?utm_campaign=shared_twitter_medium=social_source=twitter https://www.tmz.com/2021/01/09/florida-man-adam-johnson-carrying-pelosis-lectern-podium-arrested/ https://eu.azcentral.com/story/news/local/arizona-breaking/2021/01/09/jake-angeli-fur-hat-and-horns-arrested-raid-u-s-capitol/6604898002/ plus 3 more https://www.wowt.com/app/2021/01/09/des-moines-man-arrested-in-us-capitol-building-riot/ https://www.cbsnews.com/news/us-capitol-riot-man-shown-nancy-pelosi-desk-arrested-richard-barnett/?ftag=CNM-00-10aab7e=108742301 https://baltimore.cbslocal.com/2021/01/08/maryland-company-navistar-fires-employee-who-went-to-u-s-capitol-riot-wearing-work-badge/ See:?https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2021/jan/07/facebook-posts/face-painted-man-horned-fur-cap-capitol-riot-suppo/ Lisa McLaughlin, Ph.D. (she, her, hers) Associate Professor, Department of Media, Journalism & Film?(Media and Culture Program)?and Department of Global and Intercultural Studies (Women's, Gender, & Sexuality Studies Program) Miami University-Ohio USA On Fri, Jan 8, 2021 at 11:53 PM wrote: ? Yes, there were people like the guy in the fur hat who apparently is the son of a judge, but I'm following up on that claim. Vesna -- community, cooperation, commons, squirrels // http://becha.home.xs4all.nl nature, anarchy, utopia, un-anthropocene // https://www.unciv.nl // @Ms_Multicolor # distributed via : no commercial use without permission #is a moderated mailing list for net criticism, # collaborative text filtering and cultural politics of the nets # more info: http://mx.kein.org/mailman/listinfo/nettime-l # archive: http://www.nettime.org contact: nett...@kein.org # @nettime_bot tweets mail w/ sender unless #ANON is in Subject:
Re: made for TV, made for social media
Brian, all, On Thu, 7 Jan 2021, Brian Holmes wrote: In my view, far from being a harbinger of possibly worse threats to come, yesterday's events were the most positive thing that could have happened. As someone from an (ex) country who went through "this", let me tell you: it can be both/and. Here are some takes from twitter that say the same as Brian, thou: Solitaire Townsend: https://twitter.com/GreenSolitaire/status/1347115498924871680 & the whole thread: https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1347115498924871680.html " 'death flowering': it happens when an old tree is diseased and rotting from the inside. Trump, Cruz and the GOP in the US and other 'strongmen' attempts around the world - they are death flowers White supremacists - death flowers INCEL misogynists - death flowers The chaotic growth, bursting energy with no direction, the urgency against losing entitlements, they are dying and know it, deep down. This isn't their world anymore. Epicormic growth isn't sustainable. It's desperation. But, here's the kicker. You can't wait for a death flowering tree to just fall. Foresters will get their axe when they spot them, because these trees can infect and damage the forest itself. They are dangerous and their rot might pass to other trees. You gotta chop them down. Those death flowers are destructive and need felling." & Bill McKibben "I can't quite figure out how to say this, but 24 hours later it feels like there's something potentially healthy about what happened yesterday. The festering wound is out in the open now. The pus reeks, but at least it's open to the air. It's harder to gaslight people in daytime." https://twitter.com/billmckibben/status/1347273450872832003 Your tweeting correspondent, Vesna -- community, cooperation, commons, squirrels // http://becha.home.xs4all.nl nature, anarchy, utopia, un-anthropocene // https://www.unciv.nl // @Ms_Multicolor # distributed via : no commercial use without permission #is a moderated mailing list for net criticism, # collaborative text filtering and cultural politics of the nets # more info: http://mx.kein.org/mailman/listinfo/nettime-l # archive: http://www.nettime.org contact: nett...@kein.org # @nettime_bot tweets mail w/ sender unless #ANON is in Subject:
Re: Rebecca Solnit: Call it what it was: a coup attempt (The Guardian)
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Log Out! The Platform Economy and Worker Resistance, by Alessandro Delfanti, Sarah Sharma
Log Out! The Platform Economy and Worker Resistance, by Alessandro Delfanti, Sarah Sharma https://notesfrombelow.org/article/log-out-platform-economy-and-worker-resistance & more at "inquiry :: Platform Capitalism" https://notesfrombelow.org/tag/platform-capitalism From the computer to the streets by Julian Posada / June 8, 2019 On the conditions of possibility for worker organizing in platform-based gig economies by Niels van Doorn / June 8, 2019 The end of the beginning by Callum Cant, Jamie Woodcock / June 8, 2019 -- community, cooperation, commons, squirrels // http://becha.home.xs4all.nl nature, anarchy, utopia, un-anthropocene // https://www.unciv.nl // @Ms_Multicolor # distributed via : no commercial use without permission #is a moderated mailing list for net criticism, # collaborative text filtering and cultural politics of the nets # more info: http://mx.kein.org/mailman/listinfo/nettime-l # archive: http://www.nettime.org contact: nett...@kein.org # @nettime_bot tweets mail w/ sender unless #ANON is in Subject:
Re: less (net time) is more
Hi, I too have a desire for more "real life" contact & more "down to earth" activities - and, paradoxically, I express that in an email ;-) On Tue, 11 Jun 2019, panayotis antoniadis wrote: So, for me a possible future for mailing lists would be to simply make face-to-face contact an integral part of their main "communication protocol". as a follow-up to my first nettime-live meetup, that happened at HIP97 (hacking in progress, 1997, dutch hackers camping festival / conference), I suggest we take a dip in the lakes at CCC Camp 2019: https://events.ccc.de/2019/05/22/call-for-participation-chaos-communication-camp-2019/ I'll be there, in a quiet "village" dedicated to community-care, radical honesty, empathic resolution of conflicts & companionship: https://wiki.techinc.nl/CCC_Camp2019#interesting_for_Becha If you are willing to connect, contact me off list... Vesna hm i seem to post to nettime every two years ;-) https://nettime.org/Lists-Archives/nettime-l-1504/msg00046.html https://nettime.org/Lists-Archives/nettime-l-1711/msg00054.html -- community, cooperation, commons, squirrels // http://becha.home.xs4all.nl nature, anarchy, utopia, un-anthropocene // https://www.unciv.nl // @Ms_Multicolor # distributed via : no commercial use without permission #is a moderated mailing list for net criticism, # collaborative text filtering and cultural politics of the nets # more info: http://mx.kein.org/mailman/listinfo/nettime-l # archive: http://www.nettime.org contact: nett...@kein.org # @nettime_bot tweets mail w/ sender unless #ANON is in Subject:
{gaia} Call for Papers - Internet Consolidation (fwd)
FYI -- Forwarded message -- Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2019 15:52:13 + From: Jane Coffin To: gaia Hi All ? Please see this call for papers put out by Chatham House and the Internet Society on Internet Consolidation. https://think.taylorandfrancis.com/journal-cyber-policy-internet-consolidation/ Best, Jane Internet Society | www.internetsociety.org # distributed via : no commercial use without permission #is a moderated mailing list for net criticism, # collaborative text filtering and cultural politics of the nets # more info: http://mx.kein.org/mailman/listinfo/nettime-l # archive: http://www.nettime.org contact: nett...@kein.org # @nettime_bot tweets mail w/ sender unless #ANON is in Subject:
Long Read: Internet Economics by Geoff Huston, on RIPE Labs
Dear nettimers, I'd like to bring to your attention to one of the articles on the platform called "RIPE Labs" - mainly used for the publications of interest to the network operators, developers, researchers... This specific article is about the Internet Economics, consolidations, measurements, content providers, security, regulators, markets... by Geoff Huston, the Chief Scientist at APNIC, where he undertakes research on topics associated with Internet infrastructure: https://labs.ripe.net/Members/gih/internet-economics-is-a-thing-and-we-need-to-take-note The article is very long, and I would love to hear your comments & opinions - so here are some quotes to "wet your appetites": "the dominant issue at present is all about the roles of the unabashed titans in our midst (Facebook, Amazon, Apple, Microsoft and Alphabet). Are they now so big that they are essentially answerable to no nation-state at all? Or can we create a regulatory framework that places the interests of these technology behemoths into a more even balance with various national public policy objectives?" "When is an enterprise so big that failure is untenable in terms of social stability?" "Like DoH, QUIC drags the end-to-end protocol into a darkened state within the browser. Both of these are examples of a deeper and perhaps more insidious form of consolidation in the Internet than we?ve seen to date with various corporate mergers and acquisitions. Here it?s not the individual actors that are consolidating and exercising larger market power, but the components within the environment that are consolidating. Much of this is well out of normal regulatory oversight, but the results are not dissimilar to the outcomes of corporate consolidation. The result in these two cases of application consolidation is that the browser provider attains significant gains in market power." "Measuring consolidation is a difficult problem. As an example, Staples, an office supplies retailer in the US, attempted to merge with Office Depot in their efforts to counter their collective revenue loss to Amazon. Such horizontal mergers have a difficult time with the Department of Justice in the US, and the merger proposal was not cleared. The result is, of course, inevitable, as neither enterprise has the volume to effectively compete with Amazon and both are now in challenging circumstances because of Amazon?s overarching presence. On the other hand, it could be argued that the acquisition of WhatsApp by Facebook should not have been approved, as the combination of social media and messaging further consolidates Facebook?s position with its user base and makes it a must-use platform for digital advertisers. The arguments for regulatory decisions to allow or block mergers depends on forecasted outcomes, and to conduct usable forecasts we need accurate data." "But to have an informed, relevant and effective public policy process we need to understand this changing world. It seems to me that open measurement platforms and open data sets are more important than ever before. We need public measurements that are impartial, accurate, comprehensive and of course unbiased as an essential precondition for the fair and effective operation of markets." Have a good weekend, Vesna # distributed via : no commercial use without permission #is a moderated mailing list for net criticism, # collaborative text filtering and cultural politics of the nets # more info: http://mx.kein.org/mailman/listinfo/nettime-l # archive: http://www.nettime.org contact: nett...@kein.org # @nettime_bot tweets mail w/ sender unless #ANON is in Subject:
"Challenging the Tech Companies from Within" via LibrarianShipwreck
Interesting article, about ethics in technology: https://librarianshipwreck.wordpress.com/2018/06/28/challenging-the-tech-companies-from-within/ Some quotes: "who bears responsibility for creating the technologies that carry clear dystopian potential?" "A wave of recent activism from tech company workers has demonstrated that some of the individuals working for these companies are wary about what they are being asked to create" "the message that these activists broadcast loud and clear is: we care. This is a message which is hard for tech CEOs to make these days, because they've spent years demonstrating by their *actions* that they really don't care." "we are in the present situation because these companies have repeatedly demonstrated that they aren't particularly concerned with ethics or the negative implications of their actions." "the risk posed by these well publicized campaigns is that they distract from just how bad and problematic these companies truly are by holding up a handful of employee reformers as the solution" "these companies can easily take this moment to bow to the pressure from concerned employees in order to gain some positive progressive PR. ... but what they're really trying to head off is the mounting public frustration that could culminate in a genuine push for these companies to be broken up." "These stories make these companies seem rebellious and cool again, and they make it seem like these companies can hold themselves accountable. But ... it is horridly obvious that these companies are not particularly interested in being held to account by themselves or anyone else." "just because it looks like there are a few employees at these companies who could be our friends, it still doesn't mean these companies are our friends." "too many still act as if they do not know that this is where we are going. This is what happens when complex technologies, and those who create them, are untethered from a concern with 'collective ends' and allowed to see themselves as the end that matters. " "... a larger point that prompts us to consider which people benefit and which people [and squirrels!] lose out." *that just isn't good enough* "if tech workers are serious, they need to refuse to build these things altogether. They need to begin the slow and careful work of dismantling these systems" some things simply should not be built. "In the present moment those who work to design and create new technologies need to be seriously considering the repressive potential of the things they are making." ps I am happy to have discovered Ellul though this article! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jacques_Ellul pps it reminds me of that other paper: "Do Artifacts Have Politics", by Langdon Winner, cited in my "ethics in tech" presentations: http://www.jstor.org/stable/20024652 # distributed via : no commercial use without permission #is a moderated mailing list for net criticism, # collaborative text filtering and cultural politics of the nets # more info: http://mx.kein.org/mailman/listinfo/nettime-l # archive: http://www.nettime.org contact: nett...@kein.org # @nettime_bot tweets mail w/ sender unless #ANON is in Subject:
Re: Critical literature on big tech corps?
Hi Kasper, 0. "I Hate the Internet" = a novel by Jarett Kobek http://www.ihatetheinternet.net https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2016/may/16/i-hate-the-internet-jarett-kobek-san-francisco http://weheardyoulikebooks.com/releases/i-hate-the-internet/ 1. Who Owns the Internet by Elizabeth Kolbert http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2017/08/28/who-owns-the-internet 2. Geoff Huston: "The Internet's Gilded Age" (March 2017) http://www.potaroo.net/ispcol/2017-03/gilding.html 3. Heather Marsh: "IT industry is a dictatorship" : https://georgiebc.wordpress.com/2014/10/03/world-war-iii-stateless-ponzi-schemes-of-power/ 4. Tim Wu, The Master Switch http://www.nytimes.com/2010/12/12/books/review/Leonhardt-t.html 5. Laura De Nardis : Opening Standards: The Global Politics of Interoperability (MIT Press 2011) 6. Sebastian Olma a) https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/546263/in-defence-of-serendipity-by-sebastian-olma/9781910924341/ b) BEYOND THE IDEOLOGICAL TRINITY OF INNOVATION http://amsterdamalternative.nl/articles/1890 7. Francesca Musing: Network architecture as internet governance, MINES ParisTech 2013 http://policyreview.info/articles/analysis/network-architecture-internet-governance 8. "Robber barons and silicon sultans" http://www.economist.com/news/briefing/21637338-todays-tech-billionaires-have-lot-common-previous-generation-capitalist?fsrc=scn/tw_ec/robber_barons_and_silicon_sultans 9. Primavera De Filippi (2015). Wireless Community Networks: Towards a Public Policy for the Network Commons, http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=2725434 10. Fuck Off Google -- The Invisible Committee https://events.ccc.de/congress/2014/Fahrplan/events/6459.html & more: https://wiki.techinc.nl/index.php/Hackers_tribes#Internet_and_Capitalism https://wiki.techinc.nl/index.php/Female_experts#on_alternative_networks_and_commons https://wiki.techinc.nl/index.php/MeshNet -- community, cooperation, commons, squirrels // http://becha.home.xs4all.nl nature, anarchy, utopia, un-anthropocene // https://www.unciv.nl // @Ms_Multicolor # distributed via : no commercial use without permission #is a moderated mailing list for net criticism, # collaborative text filtering and cultural politics of the nets # more info: http://mx.kein.org/mailman/listinfo/nettime-l # archive: http://www.nettime.org contact: nett...@kein.org # @nettime_bot tweets mail w/ sender unless #ANON is in Subject:
Re: Skynet or rebranded Janissaries?
Thanks for the connection with "Janissaries" - in Yugoslavia we still have cultural & visceral memory of those times... I find the Daily Beast article itself too much American-centric thou... I wanted to point out to earlier writings: Monthly Review 2011 › Volume 62, Issue 10 (March) › The Internet’s Unholy Marriage to Capitalism, by John Bellamy Foster and Robert W. McChesney http://monthlyreview.org/2011/03/01/the-internets-unholy-marriage-to-capitalism/ & (Economist) Jan 3rd 2015 - Robber barons and silicon sultans Today’s tech billionaires have a lot in common with a previous generation of capitalist titans—perhaps too much for their own good http://www.economist.com/news/briefing/21637338-todays-tech-billionaires-have-lot-common-previous-generation-capitalist?fsrc=scn/tw_ec/robber_barons_and_silicon_sultans & more https://wiki.techinc.nl/index.php/Hackers_tribes#Internet_and_Capitalism -- community, cooperation, commons, squirrels // http://becha.home.xs4all.nl nature, anarchy, utopia, anthropocene, collapse // https://lists.puscii.nl/wws/arc/uncivilization # distributed via : no commercial use without permission #is a moderated mailing list for net criticism, # collaborative text filtering and cultural politics of the nets # more info: http://mx.kein.org/mailman/listinfo/nettime-l # archive: http://www.nettime.org contact: nett...@kein.org # @nettime_bot tweets mail w/ sender unless #ANON is in Subject:
Re: The 'Jake' Appelbaum case, or the rise and fall of
Dear Frank, thank you for speaking out. I choose to consider your words both as a personal opinion, and as of a representative of CCC as a whole, althou I know that there is no such thing as a "collective opinion", specially within such an anti-authoritatian (& "chaotic" by design) organisation. I will respond only to one of the points you raise: On Fri, 10 Jun 2016, Frank Rieger wrote: [the question] is rather how we can develop an shared equivalent of what is known as "due process" for conflicts and violations of our values that are (by nature or choice) not subject to the realm of normal law enforcement. I don?t have concrete ideas, but I see the need to research and develop this field. There is a wealth of resources about non-violent conflict resolution, from anarchist to feminist movements and groups; mediation, ombudsmans, ethics, social responsibility, and also on how to deal with harassment. For example: The Moral Character of Cryptographic Work?, Phillip Rogaway December 2015 http://web.cs.ucdavis.edu/~rogaway/papers/moral.pdf (cryptography ethics mass surveillance privacy Snowden social responsibility) http://www.ietf.org//iesg/statement/ietf-anti-harassment-policy.html https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-farrresnickel-harassment/ & https://www.palantir.net/blog/beyond-being-excellent-care-and-feeding-code-conduct There is no lack of information, but there seem to be lack of awareness among "technical experts" that there exist social and communication problems that require different kind of skills and expertese, those coming from "soft" sciences and even from looking into emotions of people involved in our communities. These issues do NOT require technical solutions. Since you mention concrete ideas, here are a few of mine: - encourage talks about ethics and social responsibility at the 33c3 - invite teachers of Non-Violent Communication to give workshops (https://wiki.techinc.nl/index.php/Hackers_tribes#NVC.2B.2B) - invite workshops & talks about consent - introduce trained abuse-mediators into CERT teams - create an "ombudsman" team to enable anonymous reporting of incidents - be serious about "we do not tolerate verbal or physical harrassment" (https://www.ccc.de/de/updates/2016/a-reminder-to-be-excellent-to-each-other) Regards, Vesna -- community, cooperation, commons, squirrels // http://becha.home.xs4all.nl nature, anarchy, utopia, anthropocene, collapse // https://lists.puscii.nl/wws/arc/uncivilization # distributed via : no commercial use without permission #is a moderated mailing list for net criticism, # collaborative text filtering and cultural politics of the nets # more info: http://mx.kein.org/mailman/listinfo/nettime-l # archive: http://www.nettime.org contact: nett...@kein.org # @nettime_bot tweets mail w/ sender unless #ANON is in Subject:
nettime nottime: skinny dipping again at long hot summer of the net
to bare all, symbolically and literally, is what the nettime means to me. at hip97 (hacking in progress) in almere buiten, holland there was a nudist nettime meeting in the canal, where i met some of the people from the nettime-l for the first time irl, after virtually-knowing them already... this year there is a chaos comuper club camp, near the lake, near berlin! https://events.ccc.de/2015/02/10/chaos-communication-camp-2015-save-the-date/ so let's meet there, instead of bucharest... 13-17. august. nettime-l: connecting hippies hackers old young theorists hands-on/diy americans the rest of us on-line of-the-grid to the next 20 years! B -- community, cooperation, commons, squirrels // http://becha.home.xs4all.nl nature, anarchy, utopia, anthropocene, collapse // https://lists.puscii.nl/wws/arc/uncivilization # distributed via nettime: no commercial use without permission # nettime is a moderated mailing list for net criticism, # collaborative text filtering and cultural politics of the nets # more info: http://mx.kein.org/mailman/listinfo/nettime-l # archive: http://www.nettime.org contact: nett...@kein.org
Re: nettime Hackers can't solve Surveillance
Reply to Hackers can't solve Surveillance Original at: https://lists.puscii.nl/wws/arc/uncivilization/2015-01/msg7.html Dmitry Kleiner wrote that hackers *alone* can not solve surveillance: http://www.dmytri.info/hackers-cant-solve-surveillance/ I would go further, and say that hackers *alone* can not solve other IT-industry problems either: - inequality / digital divide - extraction of natural resources used to build the gadgets - pollution caused by waste of discarded gadgets - enormous energy consumption used to run IT infrastructure - constantly pursuing unlimited growth In order to solve any of those, I agree with the end of that text: we need more hackers and hackerspaces to embrace the broader political challenges of building a more equal society. Recently there were quite a few writings that, for me, resonate with the same message: we are in this together ??? let???s join forces and combine our strengths For example: beyond whistleblowers, beyond sysadmins, beyond programmers - beyond hackers: http://www.crimethinc.com/blog/2014/12/24/beyond-whistleblowing/ sysadmins cannot create a solution by themselves. The rapidly increasing numbers of the marginalized, unemployed, and oppressed must figure at the center of any strategy for change alongside defectors from the programming caste. If programmers conceptualize their interests as distinct from the rest of humanity, and organize to defend those interests rather than to participate in a struggle much greater than themselves, they will be doomed, along with the rest of the species. Programmers should not organize themselves as a class ??? they should switch sides in the class war. Or, as the guy from Tarnac9 at #31c3 points out: The time has come for taking sides. http://events.ccc.de/congress/2014/Fahrplan/events/6459.html Already at #30c3 Elenore Saita Quinn Norton said The world is on fire, and there is nowhere to hide and no way to stay neutral. https://events.ccc.de/congress/2013/Fahrplan/events/5491.html To some external observers, it looks like most of the IT industry has taken a _wrong_ side: * Heather Marsh calls the whole IT industry a dictatorship a ponzy scheme: https://georgiebc.wordpress.com/2014/10/03/world-war-iii-stateless-ponzi-schemes-of-power/ (excerpts at https://lists.puscii.nl/wws/arc/uncivilization/2014-12/msg9.html ) * From the (USA) socialist point of view: http://monthlyreview.org/2014/07/01/surveillance-capitalism/ http://monthlyreview.org/2011/03/01/the-internets-unholy-marriage-to-capitalism/ * The ICT for development dark side failure models: http://lanyrd.com/2014/odc14/sddyrz/ http://unwin.wordpress.com/2014/09/01/prolegomena-on-human-rights-and-responsibilities/ Fellow hackers keep pointing to the ethical considerations: From the front lines: by Eleanor Saitta (Dymaxion) at OHM2013: https://noisysquare.com/ethics-and-power-in-the-long-war-eleanor-saitta-dymaxion/ Walter van Holst about ethics in hacker communities: https://medium.com/@whvholst/infocalypse-now-p0wning-is-not-enough-e310cd0e4b40 However, some hackers still don???t want to be aligned with one or the other political side. As if that would be possible! What it boils down to: technical *is* political, technical *is* ethical -- no technology is neutral, not morally neutral, not politically neutral. We all are taking sides every day, with every decision we make. We might not like it when other point this out to us, and we might not agree, and we might say that it was not a conscious choice -- but it is a choice nevertheless, and it has consequences - for ourselves, for out community/society, and for the planet. Again, quoting form the text that accompanied the talk about Cybernetics at #31c3: http://events.ccc.de/congress/2014/Fahrplan/events/6459.html Being free and having ties was one and the same thing. I am free because I have ties, because I am linked to a reality greater than me. Which goes to show how ridiculous and what a scam the individual freedom of I do what I feel like doing is. If they truly want to fight the government, the hackers have to give up this fetish. The cause of individual freedom is what prevents them from forming strong groups capable of laying down a real strategy, beyond a series of attacks; it???s also what explains their inability to form ties beyond themselves, their incapacity for becoming a historical force. If we as hackers don't want to be a historical force, fine. Other historical forces will determine our future. If we want to take part in determining our own future, we will be aligned with - or used by - one of the sides in the class war. Going even further, beyond techno-fix and techno-utopism (while not falling into technophobia) : how can hackers ethics contribute to for the world after planetary collapse: http://guymcpherson.com/2013/12/hackers-ethic-for-the-world-after-collapse/ For all of us to learn from each other, we need more
Re: nettime algorithmic regulation
a tong-in-cheek response: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kl5cv4c4P4Q Human Resistance by PWP Assembly Summer 2011 Oldskool demo competition entry, 2nd place. Platform: PC/DOS (386+, VGA, SB/GUS) ... imagination! intuition! wisdom! common sense! with these weapons we will raise above the algorhitms tha enslave us, and create a new future! as seen at http://interference.io tonight in Amsterdam -- The greatest shortcoming of the human race is our inability to understand the exponential function. http://becha.home.xs4all.nl # distributed via nettime: no commercial use without permission # nettime is a moderated mailing list for net criticism, # collaborative text filtering and cultural politics of the nets # more info: http://mx.kein.org/mailman/listinfo/nettime-l # archive: http://www.nettime.org contact: nett...@kein.org
nettime Net-neutrality public consultation
(fwd) BEREC net neutrality working group is focusing on quality monitoring of Internet access services - in the context of net neutrality. The public consultation of the latest report is launched: and please feel free to read and comment: http://berec.europa.eu/eng/news_consultations/ongoing_public_consultations/ # distributed via nettime: no commercial use without permission # nettime is a moderated mailing list for net criticism, # collaborative text filtering and cultural politics of the nets # more info: http://mx.kein.org/mailman/listinfo/nettime-l # archive: http://www.nettime.org contact: nett...@kein.org
nettime WO#D: WorldOpenHashDesign
WorldOpenHashDesign: WO#D https://medium.com/p/6438d463bcc2 ... . Our biosphere is an open thermodynamic system and any energy transformation is a non-reversible process that affects the whole system. . Rational man is part of the complex, interrelated, dynamic eco-system, hence any force he will impose on the system will eventually be reacted on himself. . Human society has to stop growing indiscriminately and consciously integrate with the Earth???s life-system and reach a new open equilibrium. Human people have to transcend the old-world regional ethnic and cultural inertia that interfere with the now critical, global decision-making processes?and raise together as one to safeguard the future of life on the common planet. We could call it a Neo-Ethic Revolution, because we need to evolve a new Cultural Ethic Paradigm designed on whole planetary participation instead of domination, and we need it to be Open-source both on the global and local scale. Those of us who have the ability to take action, have the responsibility to take action. Everybody should contribute if only spreading the message. Let???s use our courage and our technology and make our common dream come true: A global, decentralized, integrated, sustainable Open Society of freely self-organizing people. It???s humanity???s only hope, and that???s why it???s going to happen. ... WO#D?WorldOpenHashDesign is a World Wide Hashtag Campaign for the crowdsourcing of a WorldOpen #MeshNetwork via Hashtag-Design partecipation process starting on existing Social Media to unify the efforts of the Human People and Organizations dedicated to the WO #Transition. To focus and direct a global collective #Transition Agenda. To share human connections, knowledge and resources freely and safely and start a New Life supported by the WorldOpen #Transition Community. To unite us, to empower us. ... https://medium.com/p/6438d463bcc2 -- The greatest shortcoming of the human race is our inability to understand the exponential function. http://becha.home.xs4all.nl # distributed via nettime: no commercial use without permission # nettime is a moderated mailing list for net criticism, # collaborative text filtering and cultural politics of the nets # more info: http://mx.kein.org/mailman/listinfo/nettime-l # archive: http://www.nettime.org contact: nett...@kein.org
Re: nettime The Californian Reality (from: New Geography)
Hi, On Wed, 22 Jan 2014, allan siegel wrote: Thanks Brian for the snapshot history lesson; +1 Precisely,and exactly what kind of planning/organizing/conceptualizing is necessary (or possible) I'd like to pint to two sources of possibility and/or hope: http://georgiebc.wordpress.com/2013/05/24/binding-chaos/ http://guymcpherson.com/2013/12/hackers-ethic-for-the-world-after-collapse/ Vesna -- The greatest shortcoming of the human race is our inability to understand the exponential function. http://becha.home.xs4all.nl # distributed via nettime: no commercial use without permission # nettime is a moderated mailing list for net criticism, # collaborative text filtering and cultural politics of the nets # more info: http://mx.kein.org/mailman/listinfo/nettime-l # archive: http://www.nettime.org contact: nett...@kein.org
nettime Hackers ethics for the world after collapse, essay
Hi, I would like to share with you the essay I published on Nature Bats Last blog Hackers ethics for the world after collapse http://guymcpherson.com/2013/12/hackers-ethic-for-the-world-after-collapse/ Or here, the original: http://becha.home.xs4all.nl/hackers-ethics-for-the-world-after-collapse-december-2013.html At #30c3, I had related comments on the talk about history and culture: http://wiki.techinc.nl/index.php/Reply_to_no_neutral_ground_in_the_burning_world .. and if you liked that, there is much much more here: http://wiki.techinc.nl/index.php/Hackers_tribes I would like to start a project with like-minded people, to come up with something to showtell on the #31c3. If you are interested, get in touch. Vesna -- The greatest shortcoming of the human race is our inability to understand the exponential function. http://becha.home.xs4all.nl # distributed via nettime: no commercial use without permission # nettime is a moderated mailing list for net criticism, # collaborative text filtering and cultural politics of the nets # more info: http://mx.kein.org/mailman/listinfo/nettime-l # archive: http://www.nettime.org contact: nett...@kein.org
