Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Charging/Electrical Issue

[Jenya Spektor]

Will look into those  - thanks for the info!

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> On Dec 10, 2019, at 5:25 PM, Darin Hatton  wrote:
> 
> 
> Hi Jenya 
>  Good to hear your charging system is working.  That is a good test to do to 
> see what is going into battery. If its putting too much charge into battery 
> it can be cooked. 
>As far as auto store testing batteries,  they will put a load on it and 
> see how voltage drops. I have used AGM batteries in my bikes and have had 
> good results. They are a gel battery instead of liquid acid type. No vent 
> hose, no spills, sealed and much more cold cranking amps. Got mine at 
> batteries + bulbs . About 100 bucks each here in ohio
> 
>> On Sat, Dec 7, 2019, 7:49 PM Jenya Spektor  wrote:
>> Thanks guys - I did start a bike and when reviving the voltmeter shows 14 v 
>> or more. So I presume the charging system is working - it’s the battery that 
>> loses voltage during longer stop and go rides in the city. I’ll try to stop 
>> by the AAP to check it out. Is there anything specific I should be asking 
>> them for? And how do they test the batteries in the store? Thanks all!
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
 On Dec 1, 2019, at 5:38 PM, Darin Hatton  wrote:
 
>>> 
>>> Hi Jenya,  
>>>   The easiest way for me to see what the charging system is doing is to set 
>>> multi meter to D C volts, put lead on battery with bike running. Should 
>>> show 12 + volts at idle and about 14.5 volts at about 5k rpms.  
>>> Darin
>>> 
 On Sun, Dec 1, 2019, 1:13 PM Jenya Spektor  wrote:
 I have followed the steps in the manual - my regulator reads 1 when I 
 touch the yellow wires on the regulator side. I presume it needs to be 0, 
 correct?
 The stator side test shows 0.4.
 Let me know what i should test next - unless this is a telltale of some 
 trouble.
 Jenya
 
 
> On Fri, Nov 29, 2019 at 7:00 PM Dave duChêne  wrote:
> Check the battery too, an internal issue can cause rapid discharge. 
> Cheaper to replace also.
> Dave
> 
> 
>> On Fri, 29 Nov 2019 at 19:56, Darin Hatton  
>> wrote:
>> Hi jenya, dont forget to check stator. Easily done with meter.  D
>> 
>>> On Fri, Nov 29, 2019, 1:25 PM Kyle Munz  wrote:
>>> There are steps in the shop manual for testing the R/R, it should be 
>>> tested before just being replaced. If it does test bad I think we all 
>>> pretty much agree that Rick's has the best replacement parts.
>>> https://ricksmotorsportelectrics.com/
>>> 
>>> -Kyle
>>> 
>>> 
 On Fri, Nov 29, 2019 at 11:55 AM Jenya Spektor  
 wrote:
 Hey fellow owners!
 I have a question (just to validate my assumption). Recently I went on 
 a few rides that lasted for an hour or so (and I had to stop and turn 
 the bike on and off for quite a few times). Well the battery that was 
 fully charged when leaving the house would drop down to 11V and the 
 bike would not start. 
 The bike starts right up no problem.
 By the way it's acting, it might be the regulator/rectifier not 
 charging the battery. 
 I would like to ask if you guys have any recommendations on a 
 replacement part that is a more modern (maybe two in one)?
 Thank you in advance.
 Jenya
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Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Charging/Electrical Issue

[Darin Hatton]

Here is a pic of the 2 I'm using. The one in photo is in an 83 honda gl650
silverwing , easier to get pic of. Same one is in 700s. 3 seasons so far
from the one in pic, 1 year for the one in 700

On Sat, Dec 7, 2019, 7:49 PM Jenya Spektor  wrote:

> Thanks guys - I did start a bike and when reviving the voltmeter shows 14
> v or more. So I presume the charging system is working - it’s the battery
> that loses voltage during longer stop and go rides in the city. I’ll try to
> stop by the AAP to check it out. Is there anything specific I should be
> asking them for? And how do they test the batteries in the store? Thanks
> all!
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Dec 1, 2019, at 5:38 PM, Darin Hatton  wrote:
>
> 
> Hi Jenya,
>   The easiest way for me to see what the charging system is doing is to
> set multi meter to D C volts, put lead on battery with bike running. Should
> show 12 + volts at idle and about 14.5 volts at about 5k rpms.
> Darin
>
> On Sun, Dec 1, 2019, 1:13 PM Jenya Spektor  wrote:
>
>> I have followed the steps in the manual - my regulator reads 1 when I
>> touch the yellow wires on the regulator side. I presume it needs to be 0,
>> correct?
>> The stator side test shows 0.4.
>> Let me know what i should test next - unless this is a telltale of some
>> trouble.
>> Jenya
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Nov 29, 2019 at 7:00 PM Dave duChêne  wrote:
>>
>>> Check the battery too, an internal issue can cause rapid discharge.
>>> Cheaper to replace also.
>>> Dave
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, 29 Nov 2019 at 19:56, Darin Hatton 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Hi jenya, dont forget to check stator. Easily done with meter.  D

 On Fri, Nov 29, 2019, 1:25 PM Kyle Munz  wrote:

> There are steps in the shop manual for testing the R/R, it should be
> tested before just being replaced. If it does test bad I think we all
> pretty much agree that Rick's has the best replacement parts.
> https://ricksmotorsportelectrics.com/
>
> -Kyle
>
>
> On Fri, Nov 29, 2019 at 11:55 AM Jenya Spektor 
> wrote:
>
>> Hey fellow owners!
>> I have a question (just to validate my assumption). Recently I went
>> on a few rides that lasted for an hour or so (and I had to stop and turn
>> the bike on and off for quite a few times). Well the battery that was 
>> fully
>> charged when leaving the house would drop down to 11V and the bike would
>> not start.
>> The bike starts right up no problem.
>> By the way it's acting, it might be the regulator/rectifier not
>> charging the battery.
>> I would like to ask if you guys have any recommendations on a
>> replacement part that is a more modern (maybe two in one)?
>> Thank you in advance.
>> Jenya
>>
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Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Charging/Electrical Issue

[Darin Hatton]

Hi Jenya
 Good to hear your charging system is working.  That is a good test to do
to see what is going into battery. If its putting too much charge into
battery it can be cooked.
   As far as auto store testing batteries,  they will put a load on it and
see how voltage drops. I have used AGM batteries in my bikes and have had
good results. They are a gel battery instead of liquid acid type. No vent
hose, no spills, sealed and much more cold cranking amps. Got mine at
batteries + bulbs . About 100 bucks each here in ohio

On Sat, Dec 7, 2019, 7:49 PM Jenya Spektor  wrote:

> Thanks guys - I did start a bike and when reviving the voltmeter shows 14
> v or more. So I presume the charging system is working - it’s the battery
> that loses voltage during longer stop and go rides in the city. I’ll try to
> stop by the AAP to check it out. Is there anything specific I should be
> asking them for? And how do they test the batteries in the store? Thanks
> all!
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Dec 1, 2019, at 5:38 PM, Darin Hatton  wrote:
>
> 
> Hi Jenya,
>   The easiest way for me to see what the charging system is doing is to
> set multi meter to D C volts, put lead on battery with bike running. Should
> show 12 + volts at idle and about 14.5 volts at about 5k rpms.
> Darin
>
> On Sun, Dec 1, 2019, 1:13 PM Jenya Spektor  wrote:
>
>> I have followed the steps in the manual - my regulator reads 1 when I
>> touch the yellow wires on the regulator side. I presume it needs to be 0,
>> correct?
>> The stator side test shows 0.4.
>> Let me know what i should test next - unless this is a telltale of some
>> trouble.
>> Jenya
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Nov 29, 2019 at 7:00 PM Dave duChêne  wrote:
>>
>>> Check the battery too, an internal issue can cause rapid discharge.
>>> Cheaper to replace also.
>>> Dave
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, 29 Nov 2019 at 19:56, Darin Hatton 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Hi jenya, dont forget to check stator. Easily done with meter.  D

 On Fri, Nov 29, 2019, 1:25 PM Kyle Munz  wrote:

> There are steps in the shop manual for testing the R/R, it should be
> tested before just being replaced. If it does test bad I think we all
> pretty much agree that Rick's has the best replacement parts.
> https://ricksmotorsportelectrics.com/
>
> -Kyle
>
>
> On Fri, Nov 29, 2019 at 11:55 AM Jenya Spektor 
> wrote:
>
>> Hey fellow owners!
>> I have a question (just to validate my assumption). Recently I went
>> on a few rides that lasted for an hour or so (and I had to stop and turn
>> the bike on and off for quite a few times). Well the battery that was 
>> fully
>> charged when leaving the house would drop down to 11V and the bike would
>> not start.
>> The bike starts right up no problem.
>> By the way it's acting, it might be the regulator/rectifier not
>> charging the battery.
>> I would like to ask if you guys have any recommendations on a
>> replacement part that is a more modern (maybe two in one)?
>> Thank you in advance.
>> Jenya
>>
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Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] New Member / 83' Nighthawk 550 Many Problems

[Robert James]

Thanks Doug!

On Sunday, December 8, 2019 at 7:10:08 PM UTC-7, doug jones wrote:
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> Rob let me try to attach the schematic  for my bike maybe this could be 
> the same for yours.
> Let me know how you make out..
>
> Dougjones
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> On Sat, Dec 7, 2019 at 9:36 PM Robert James  > wrote:
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>> Thanks, yeah I could use a copy. The 550 had the square light according 
>> to everything I'm finding. This one has been through a lot, I imagine the 
>> last guy just threw some lights on that were laying around. I think the 
>> round light looks a little cooler, you're right about that 80's look, the 
>> square light really dates it
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