Re: [nlug] question about which Linux OS to put on old computer

2009-11-20 Thread Michael Chaney
Apparently Chris is wanting this for his daughter to play flash games
on the internet.  I'm not sure if this was stated outright, but I've
pieced this together from the various comments here.

If so, the entire conversation is moot.  Steven mentions this above,
but it bears repeating as the thread continues: a 466MHz anything with
any amount of memory is not fast enough to run modern flash games.
Platform is not relevant.  I have some faster CPUs here that cannot
keep up with the latest flash games.

Finding much faster hardware for free shouldn't be too much of a hassle.

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Re: [nlug] question about which Linux OS to put on old computer

2009-11-20 Thread Chris Faulkner
Michael,

   Apparently you didn't read my request thoroughly.  Anyways, my
child hood friend's computer, the 400mHz 256MB ram, is actually fast
enough to run Farmtown on Facebook, because I am actually looking at
it right now.  Runs ok and it may run ok for her as well.  She could
be used to the jerky motions, However i am used to seeing it on my
dual core 3.2gHz 16 gigs of memory.  We can bust each others ass til
we're blue in the face again Mike, but I would rather not.
Something 600mHz and up with about 256MB ram-512MB ram should be a tad
bit better than what she's running now.

Someone has already contacted me about a computer they have laying
around and are willing to part with it so it looks like it's gonna be
ok.  My child hood friend doesn't have a whole lot of money to mess
with and I'm just trying to help.  If she was happy with the jerky
movements with this current computer, i'm sure she will be thrilled
when it plays just a bit faster wouldn't you think?

Peace,

Chris Faulkner

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Re: [nlug] question about which Linux OS to put on old computer

2009-11-20 Thread Chris McQuistion
I've got a really old P4 Williamette system around here with 1.5 GHz P4 and
~384 MB PC100 SDRAM (not sure about the exact amount, it might be 512 MB.)

If you're interested, let me know and I'll wipe the drive.

Chris

On Fri, Nov 20, 2009 at 12:35 PM, Chris Faulkner cfaulkne...@gmail.comwrote:

 Michael,

   Apparently you didn't read my request thoroughly.  Anyways, my
 child hood friend's computer, the 400mHz 256MB ram, is actually fast
 enough to run Farmtown on Facebook, because I am actually looking at
 it right now.  Runs ok and it may run ok for her as well.  She could
 be used to the jerky motions, However i am used to seeing it on my
 dual core 3.2gHz 16 gigs of memory.  We can bust each others ass til
 we're blue in the face again Mike, but I would rather not.
 Something 600mHz and up with about 256MB ram-512MB ram should be a tad
 bit better than what she's running now.

 Someone has already contacted me about a computer they have laying
 around and are willing to part with it so it looks like it's gonna be
 ok.  My child hood friend doesn't have a whole lot of money to mess
 with and I'm just trying to help.  If she was happy with the jerky
 movements with this current computer, i'm sure she will be thrilled
 when it plays just a bit faster wouldn't you think?

 Peace,

 Chris Faulkner

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Re: [nlug] question about which Linux OS to put on old computer

2009-11-20 Thread Chris Faulkner
I may be interested in that as well.  I usually run into people that
can't afford computers or are still running the old type of computers.
 I try to keep their computers running as best as they can but it
sorta gets into a time is money issue with me and i'd rather just
replace their setup with something a bit more modern, but when I start
flashing around $150 for a better computer they start wincing.  Some
of these people I deal with don't make money off of it so they can't
justify spending $150 for something like this.  Just trying to help
and spreading the love you know christmas season :)  I'll be
the Nerd sliding down the chimney...every year.

On Fri, Nov 20, 2009 at 12:43 PM, Chris McQuistion
cmcquist...@watkins.edu wrote:
 I've got a really old P4 Williamette system around here with 1.5 GHz P4 and
 ~384 MB PC100 SDRAM (not sure about the exact amount, it might be 512 MB.)
 If you're interested, let me know and I'll wipe the drive.
 Chris

 On Fri, Nov 20, 2009 at 12:35 PM, Chris Faulkner cfaulkne...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 Michael,

   Apparently you didn't read my request thoroughly.  Anyways, my
 child hood friend's computer, the 400mHz 256MB ram, is actually fast
 enough to run Farmtown on Facebook, because I am actually looking at
 it right now.  Runs ok and it may run ok for her as well.  She could
 be used to the jerky motions, However i am used to seeing it on my
 dual core 3.2gHz 16 gigs of memory.  We can bust each others ass til
 we're blue in the face again Mike, but I would rather not.
 Something 600mHz and up with about 256MB ram-512MB ram should be a tad
 bit better than what she's running now.

 Someone has already contacted me about a computer they have laying
 around and are willing to part with it so it looks like it's gonna be
 ok.  My child hood friend doesn't have a whole lot of money to mess
 with and I'm just trying to help.  If she was happy with the jerky
 movements with this current computer, i'm sure she will be thrilled
 when it plays just a bit faster wouldn't you think?

 Peace,

 Chris Faulkner

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Re: [nlug] question about which Linux OS to put on old computer

2009-11-20 Thread Chris Faulkner
Actually, nevermind on this request... I was going to build a backup
firewall for my home office with this other PC I have, but i think
i'll just use this and give it to her  so everyone stand down... I
appreciate the offers on all these but I think this one will help out
a bunch more...  and I don't need another Wattage hog burning at the
moment... :)

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Re: [nlug] question about which Linux OS to put on old computer

2009-11-20 Thread Michael Chaney
On Fri, Nov 20, 2009 at 12:35 PM, Chris Faulkner cfaulkne...@gmail.com wrote:
 Michael,

   Apparently you didn't read my request thoroughly.  Anyways, my
 child hood friend's computer, the 400mHz 256MB ram, is actually fast
 enough to run Farmtown on Facebook, because I am actually looking at
 it right now.  Runs ok and it may run ok for her as well.  She could
 be used to the jerky motions, However i am used to seeing it on my
 dual core 3.2gHz 16 gigs of memory.  We can bust each others ass til
 we're blue in the face again Mike, but I would rather not.
 Something 600mHz and up with about 256MB ram-512MB ram should be a tad
 bit better than what she's running now.

 Someone has already contacted me about a computer they have laying
 around and are willing to part with it so it looks like it's gonna be
 ok.  My child hood friend doesn't have a whole lot of money to mess
 with and I'm just trying to help.  If she was happy with the jerky
 movements with this current computer, i'm sure she will be thrilled
 when it plays just a bit faster wouldn't you think?

Ah, I somehow missed the whole explanation.  Anyway, good enough, but
I see you have a much better machine being offered now.  From my
experience, 1GHz up should run most flash games with no problems.

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Re: [nlug] question about which Linux OS to put on old computer

2009-11-19 Thread Brian H. Ward
A number of distros have an option for XFCE; Ubuntu offers the Xubuntu
distro.

On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 12:25 PM, Jon Moore supermegat...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 11:22 AM, Chris Faulkner cfaulkne...@gmail.com
 wrote:
  I know Ubuntu 9.10 would probably work but let me ask the group here
  what Linux OS should I put on this computer for basic X Window
  operation, firefox, java, flash and run pretty decent.
 
  Pentium 2 400mHz (I know, ugh)
  256MB ram
  not sure on the video i think it's Onboard so at least 32MB ram
 probably..
  6GB hdd
 
  Any OS's out there that will work, even if I have to go back a few
  versions?  What luck has anyone had with a config similar to this?

 I'd probably stay away from running a full desktop enviroment (like
 gnome, kde)  and go
 with something like XFCE.  That alone, I've seen take a computer from
 barely useable to
 almost perfect.

 -jonathan

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Re: [nlug] question about which Linux OS to put on old computer

2009-11-19 Thread Chris Faulkner
ah, Nice, i'll look into that...

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Re: [nlug] question about which Linux OS to put on old computer

2009-11-19 Thread Chris Faulkner
Ooo Arch is very nice... forgot about that.

On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 11:27 AM, Evan Brown nog...@gmail.com wrote:
 I would suggest arch as its install is lightweight and you can build you
 desktop environment from the ground up

 On Nov 19, 2009 9:25 AM, Jon Moore supermegat...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 11:22 AM, Chris Faulkner cfaulkne...@gmail.com
 wrote:  I know Ubuntu 9.10...

 I'd probably stay away from running a full desktop enviroment (like
 gnome, kde)  and go
 with something like XFCE.  That alone, I've seen take a computer from
 barely useable to
 almost perfect.

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Re: [nlug] question about which Linux OS to put on old computer

2009-11-19 Thread andrew mcelroy
On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 11:28 AM, Chris Faulkner cfaulkne...@gmail.com wrote:
 ah, Nice, i'll look into that...

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If you have better things to do than build a system from the ground up
( including hal).
Try Puppy Linux
http://puppylinux.org/main/index.php?file=Overview%20and%20Getting%20Started.htm

Also, debian 5 wouldn't be a bad choice either

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Re: [nlug] question about which Linux OS to put on old computer

2009-11-19 Thread Steven S. Critchfield
I'd like to point out that flash on linux sucks undesirable body parts.

If she wants to play the flash games on facebook, she really wants a better
computer than the specs you listed if it is linux. This is a adobe problem
not a linux problem.

At $299 you can get dual core Pentium D 2.8ghz, 1gig ram, 750gb drive, 
dvd writer, new case with new PSU, NVidia card with 512megs ram. 
Link to tiger direct. http://tinyurl.com/yhthf2r

That goes a long way to making someone's experience happy and good even
with suck software from Adobe.

Price point on hardware has dropped such that it is difficult to justify
the use of such old hardware.

- Chris Faulkner cfaulkne...@gmail.com wrote:

 did a little reading, and Arch might not work  PuppyLinux looks
 to
 be the best one so far... i'll post my findings here in a bit for
 future reference.  This is a friend of mine's computer and she's
 never
 used linux before ever and she's been having problems with Facebook
 hijacks lately  (Koobface) so she just wants to play her farmtown in
 peace... lol  I know lame, but this is her 5 min of enjoyment every
 day... :)
 
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Re: [nlug] question about which Linux OS to put on old computer

2009-11-19 Thread Chris Faulkner
she's playng with it sorta ok with Windows XP, but viruses hit here
and she doesn't want that

On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 12:57 PM, Steven S. Critchfield
cri...@basesys.com wrote:
 I'd like to point out that flash on linux sucks undesirable body parts.

 If she wants to play the flash games on facebook, she really wants a better
 computer than the specs you listed if it is linux. This is a adobe problem
 not a linux problem.

 At $299 you can get dual core Pentium D 2.8ghz, 1gig ram, 750gb drive,
 dvd writer, new case with new PSU, NVidia card with 512megs ram.
 Link to tiger direct. http://tinyurl.com/yhthf2r

 That goes a long way to making someone's experience happy and good even
 with suck software from Adobe.

 Price point on hardware has dropped such that it is difficult to justify
 the use of such old hardware.

 - Chris Faulkner cfaulkne...@gmail.com wrote:

 did a little reading, and Arch might not work  PuppyLinux looks
 to
 be the best one so far... i'll post my findings here in a bit for
 future reference.  This is a friend of mine's computer and she's
 never
 used linux before ever and she's been having problems with Facebook
 hijacks lately  (Koobface) so she just wants to play her farmtown in
 peace... lol  I know lame, but this is her 5 min of enjoyment every
 day... :)

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Re: [nlug] question about which Linux OS to put on old computer

2009-11-19 Thread Bucky 'Igneous' Wolfe
On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 11:31:50AM -0600, Jon Moore wrote:
 On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 11:29 AM, Chris Faulkner cfaulkne...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
  Ooo Arch is very nice... forgot about that.
 
 Will arch run on this?  I've never really paid much attention, but I
 know it's only for i686
 and up.  Does that include this processor?

I ran arch on a P2 Deschutes a couple years ago. I'm not sure if it'll work or 
not on a Klamath or Tonga, but it's worth a shot.. I think all you need to run 
arch is the MMX instruction set.. maybe SSE. Technically the way it's 
classified seems all you need is a P6 (or higher) based intel processor, or on 
the amd side... an  Athlon or above.

It's at least worth a shot.. If the install cd boots, then you're good.. if it 
doesn't, well.. not so much then ;)

-Igneous

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Re: [nlug] question about which Linux OS to put on old computer

2009-11-19 Thread Chris Faulkner
Well, Puppy Linux is working pretty well on it, but flash stuff is
real jerky... s  i'm asking out to the community if anyone has a
PC out there that they wanna get rid of that's better than the 400mHz,
256MB ram they would like to part with for free, lemme know.  I'm not
selling it or making any money off this cause she's a child hood
friend of mine.. even if it's missing a hard drive or even memory
sticks... lemme know.  I live in south nashville..  thanks!

Chris

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Re: [nlug] question about which Linux OS to put on old computer

2009-11-19 Thread Dave Manginelli
Are you running the XORG or the XVESA drivers?  (For the uninitiated,
Puppy offers a choice during install).  It's worth tweaking the XORG
drivers to make them work if you have to because they are much quicker
than the XVESA drivers in my experience.

BTW -- I love Puppy.

On Thu, 2009-11-19 at 17:15 -0600, Chris Faulkner wrote:
 Well, Puppy Linux is working pretty well on it, but flash stuff is
 real jerky... s  i'm asking out to the community if anyone has a
 PC out there that they wanna get rid of that's better than the 400mHz,
 256MB ram they would like to part with for free, lemme know.  I'm not
 selling it or making any money off this cause she's a child hood
 friend of mine.. even if it's missing a hard drive or even memory
 sticks... lemme know.  I live in south nashville..  thanks!
 
 Chris
 
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