[No Thirst Software] Re: Transfer Creations

2009-02-09 Thread Christopher Larson

On Feb 9, 2009, at 11:42 AM, Kevin Hoctor wrote:


 On Feb 3, 2009, at 12:54 PM, Christopher Larson wrote:

 I noticed that if you shrink down the account panel so it only  
 shows a
 few, then try to drag from one account to another to create a
 transaction, it scrolls the list -way- too fast.  It's impossible for
 me to drag from my checking account to one of my middle of the list
 accounts (a credit card) without resizing the account section to  
 avoid
 needing to scroll.  If you could slow that down, it'd be very helpful
 for those of us that shrink that view to fit more expense buckets on
 the screen.

 Hi Chris,

 This scroll speed is pretty much an Apple-level control aspect.
 MoneyWell 2.0 will revise the panels on the left a bit to give you
 more collapse/expand control.

Understood, thanks.


 Another minor comment.  If you shrink the account area down far
 enough, the scroll bar vanishes entirely, I assume because there's  
 not
 enough room to display the arrow buttons and all.  When it does so,
 you should probably stretch the width of the account info so the
 balances are again justified fully to the right, otherwise you see
 this off color gap where the scroll bar used to be.  Very minor, just
 happened to notice it and wanted to write it down somewhere before I
 forgot about it :)


 Again, this is standard OS X functionality. That's also incredibly
 small for a list to be of any use. If you size the list so there is no
 need for a scroll bar, it does make more room for the numbers.

No, it does not.  When the scrollbar vanishes, the area of the screen  
formerly occupied by the scrollbar is now blank, empty, the text does  
not grow to fill the gap, nor does the background color match up with  
the numbers area, and the numbers themselves cannot, therefore, grow  
any more without the scrollbar there than with it.  If you'd actually  
tested it, you'd realize this.  If it's an OSX thing, that's fine, but  
claiming it does something it does not helps no one.
-- 
Chris Larson
clarson at kergoth dot com
clarson at mvista dot com
Founder - BitBake, OpenEmbedded, OpenZaurus
Maintainer - Tslib
Software Engineer
MontaVista Software, Inc.


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[No Thirst Software] Re: Transfer Creations

2009-02-09 Thread Mark Hall


I have tried this, and the text does grow if you size it so there is  
no need for a scrollbar (i.e. if you make the list longer). But if you  
make it smaller, the text will not re-grow once the bar valished, and  
it's the same on any other application, when the scroll bar vanishes,  
the text does not grow either. I tried this on Firefox, Adium and Excel.




 Another minor comment.  If you shrink the account area down far
 enough, the scroll bar vanishes entirely, I assume because there's
 not
 enough room to display the arrow buttons and all.  When it does so,
 you should probably stretch the width of the account info so the
 balances are again justified fully to the right, otherwise you see
 this off color gap where the scroll bar used to be.  Very minor,  
 just
 happened to notice it and wanted to write it down somewhere before I
 forgot about it :)


 Again, this is standard OS X functionality. That's also incredibly
 small for a list to be of any use. If you size the list so there is  
 no
 need for a scroll bar, it does make more room for the numbers.

 No, it does not.  When the scrollbar vanishes, the area of the screen
 formerly occupied by the scrollbar is now blank, empty, the text does
 not grow to fill the gap, nor does the background color match up with
 the numbers area, and the numbers themselves cannot, therefore, grow
 any more without the scrollbar there than with it.  If you'd actually
 tested it, you'd realize this.  If it's an OSX thing, that's fine, but
 claiming it does something it does not helps no one.
 -- 
 Chris Larson
 clarson at kergoth dot com
 clarson at mvista dot com
 Founder - BitBake, OpenEmbedded, OpenZaurus
 Maintainer - Tslib
 Software Engineer
 MontaVista Software, Inc.


 

Mark Hall





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[No Thirst Software] Re: Transfer Creations

2009-02-09 Thread Christopher Larson

On Feb 9, 2009, at 1:30 PM, Mark Hall wrote:

 I have tried this, and the text does grow if you size it so there is
 no need for a scrollbar (i.e. if you make the list longer). But if you
 make it smaller, the text will not re-grow once the bar valished, and
 it's the same on any other application, when the scroll bar vanishes,
 the text does not grow either. I tried this on Firefox, Adium and  
 Excel.

Thanks for the clarification, just found it a curious behavior.  Good  
to know that it's standard.
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clarson at kergoth dot com
clarson at mvista dot com
Founder - BitBake, OpenEmbedded, OpenZaurus
Maintainer - Tslib
Software Engineer
MontaVista Software, Inc.


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[No Thirst Software] Re: Transfer Creations

2009-02-09 Thread Kevin Hoctor

On Feb 9, 2009, at 2:12 PM, Christopher Larson wrote:

 Again, this is standard OS X functionality. That's also incredibly
 small for a list to be of any use. If you size the list so there is  
 no
 need for a scroll bar, it does make more room for the numbers.

 No, it does not.  When the scrollbar vanishes, the area of the screen
 formerly occupied by the scrollbar is now blank, empty, the text does
 not grow to fill the gap, nor does the background color match up with
 the numbers area, and the numbers themselves cannot, therefore, grow
 any more without the scrollbar there than with it.  If you'd actually
 tested it, you'd realize this.  If it's an OSX thing, that's fine, but
 claiming it does something it does not helps no one.


Chris,

In the case your stating, the scrollbar is not vanishing, it has  
shrunk so small that OS X can't fit the standard arrow and elevator  
controls. If you make the list box taller so that the scrollbar  
disappears, you'll see that the total column does move to the right to  
fill the empty space that normally would include a scrollbar.

Peace,

Kevin Hoctor
ke...@nothirst.com
No Thirst Software LLC
http://nothirst.com
http://kevinhoctor.blogspot.com


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