Re: correct way to search for only PDF attachments
On Tue, Sep 29, 2015 at 9:48 AM, David Bremner wrote: > Suvayu Ali writes: > >> On Tue, Sep 29, 2015 at 08:00:18AM -0300, David Bremner wrote: >>> >>> Of course it is getting pretty big, I don't know what to do about >>> that. >> >> How about an overview in notmuch-search-terms with more detailed docs in >> an info page? coreutils does this. I don't think this will add any new >> build dependencies either, as sphinx supports info pages. I see >> texinfo_documents is already defined in doc/conf.py. Maybe that is an >> option? >> > > I'm not really in favour of requiring anyone who is not already using > emacs to use info. Of course we could provide the same long form docs > in other formats (most likely html). I don't know if splitting into > shorter man pages plus a longer manual would really help, but it's > likely we could take better advantage of sphinx. I know that Patrick > Totzke started a rework of the docs > >https://github.com/pazz/notmuch/tree/docs > > I don't think that's really in a state to contemplate merging (for one > thing it hasn't kept up with doc changes in master); but maybe somebody > wants to pick up where Patrick left off. > > d > ___ > notmuch mailing list > notmuch@notmuchmail.org > http://notmuchmail.org/mailman/listinfo/notmuch Thank you everyone for all of the information and for walking me in through the example! I will study more in depth and look at the detailed documentation. Kind regards, Xu ___ notmuch mailing list notmuch@notmuchmail.org http://notmuchmail.org/mailman/listinfo/notmuch
Re: correct way to search for only PDF attachments
Suvayu Ali writes: > On Tue, Sep 29, 2015 at 08:00:18AM -0300, David Bremner wrote: >> >> Of course it is getting pretty big, I don't know what to do about >> that. > > How about an overview in notmuch-search-terms with more detailed docs in > an info page? coreutils does this. I don't think this will add any new > build dependencies either, as sphinx supports info pages. I see > texinfo_documents is already defined in doc/conf.py. Maybe that is an > option? > I'm not really in favour of requiring anyone who is not already using emacs to use info. Of course we could provide the same long form docs in other formats (most likely html). I don't know if splitting into shorter man pages plus a longer manual would really help, but it's likely we could take better advantage of sphinx. I know that Patrick Totzke started a rework of the docs https://github.com/pazz/notmuch/tree/docs I don't think that's really in a state to contemplate merging (for one thing it hasn't kept up with doc changes in master); but maybe somebody wants to pick up where Patrick left off. d ___ notmuch mailing list notmuch@notmuchmail.org http://notmuchmail.org/mailman/listinfo/notmuch
Re: correct way to search for only PDF attachments
On Tue, Sep 29, 2015 at 08:00:18AM -0300, David Bremner wrote: > > Of course it is getting pretty big, I don't know what to do about > that. How about an overview in notmuch-search-terms with more detailed docs in an info page? coreutils does this. I don't think this will add any new build dependencies either, as sphinx supports info pages. I see texinfo_documents is already defined in doc/conf.py. Maybe that is an option? -- Suvayu Open source is the future. It sets us free. ___ notmuch mailing list notmuch@notmuchmail.org http://notmuchmail.org/mailman/listinfo/notmuch
Re: correct way to search for only PDF attachments
Carl Worth writes: > On Mon, Sep 28 2015, Xu Wang wrote: >> I would look to look for all emails from a colleague jongho. I tried: >> >> from:jongho attachment:pdf >> >> which seems to do as I wanted. > > Good. That should work. Another option is to use mimetype:pdf man notmuch-search-terms is probably worth a look when facing these kinds of puzzles. It contains both Carl's reply about term based search and mine about the mimetype: prefix. Of course it is getting pretty big, I don't know what to do about that. d ___ notmuch mailing list notmuch@notmuchmail.org http://notmuchmail.org/mailman/listinfo/notmuch
Re: correct way to search for only PDF attachments
On Mon, Sep 28, 2015 at 07:00:13PM -0700, Carl Worth wrote: > On Mon, Sep 28 2015, Xu Wang wrote: > > > To understand more, what does the following search for? > > > > from:jongho attachment:.*pdf > > Uhm, probably only strange things. There are some mechanisms for getting > notmuch to emit some debugging information on what the final search > terms end up being, (but I don't recall if they still require > recompilation or not). This should work: $ export NOTMUCH_DEBUG_QUERY=1 $ notmuch count -- from:suvayu attachment:*.pdf Query string is: from:suvayu attachment:*.pdf Exclude query is: Xapian::Query() Final query is: Xapian::Query((Tmail AND ZXFROMsuvayu:(pos=1) AND Zattach:(pos=2) AND Zpdf:(pos=3))) 217 $ notmuch count -- from:suvayu attachment:pdf Query string is: from:suvayu attachment:pdf Exclude query is: Xapian::Query() Final query is: Xapian::Query((Tmail AND ZXFROMsuvayu:(pos=1) AND ZXATTACHMENTpdf:(pos=2))) 151 I guess to answer the OP's question, the globbed form simply does a text search of attach and pdf. The keyword is not recognised at all. Cheers, -- Suvayu Open source is the future. It sets us free. ___ notmuch mailing list notmuch@notmuchmail.org http://notmuchmail.org/mailman/listinfo/notmuch
Re: correct way to search for only PDF attachments
On Mon, Sep 28, 2015 at 10:00 PM, Carl Worth wrote: > On Mon, Sep 28 2015, Xu Wang wrote: >> I would look to look for all emails from a colleague jongho. I tried: >> >> from:jongho attachment:pdf >> >> which seems to do as I wanted. > > Good. That should work. > >> To understand more, what does the following search for? >> >> from:jongho attachment:.*pdf > > Uhm, probably only strange things. There are some mechanisms for getting > notmuch to emit some debugging information on what the final search > terms end up being, (but I don't recall if they still require > recompilation or not). > > I'm not testing now, but I wouldn't be surprised if that ended up doing > something like searching for a phrase like "attachment pdf" anywhere > within a message. (The Xapian parser can be somewhat unpredictable when > you give it unexpected input.) > >> Also, how does the first one above know that I want only PDF >> attachments and not an attachment called "pdformula.txt" ? > > It doesn't know that you want only PDF attachments. The key part is that > the indexing is performed by breaking text up into individual terms, (at > punctuation boundaries usually). So a search specification like > "attachment:pdf" is searching for things that were indexed with the > "pdf" term within the attachment prefix. So that won't match a filename > like pdformula.txt, (which would be indexed as two terms, "pdformula" > and "txt"), but it would match pdf.ormula.txt, (which would be indexed > as three terms, "pdf", "ormula" and "txt"). > > The Xapian documentation can be examined if you want more details. This is highly useful. Thank for such an explanation!! Thank you, Carl. Kind regards, Xu ___ notmuch mailing list notmuch@notmuchmail.org http://notmuchmail.org/mailman/listinfo/notmuch
Re: correct way to search for only PDF attachments
On Mon, Sep 28 2015, Xu Wang wrote: > I would look to look for all emails from a colleague jongho. I tried: > > from:jongho attachment:pdf > > which seems to do as I wanted. Good. That should work. > To understand more, what does the following search for? > > from:jongho attachment:.*pdf Uhm, probably only strange things. There are some mechanisms for getting notmuch to emit some debugging information on what the final search terms end up being, (but I don't recall if they still require recompilation or not). I'm not testing now, but I wouldn't be surprised if that ended up doing something like searching for a phrase like "attachment pdf" anywhere within a message. (The Xapian parser can be somewhat unpredictable when you give it unexpected input.) > Also, how does the first one above know that I want only PDF > attachments and not an attachment called "pdformula.txt" ? It doesn't know that you want only PDF attachments. The key part is that the indexing is performed by breaking text up into individual terms, (at punctuation boundaries usually). So a search specification like "attachment:pdf" is searching for things that were indexed with the "pdf" term within the attachment prefix. So that won't match a filename like pdformula.txt, (which would be indexed as two terms, "pdformula" and "txt"), but it would match pdf.ormula.txt, (which would be indexed as three terms, "pdf", "ormula" and "txt"). The Xapian documentation can be examined if you want more details. -Carl signature.asc Description: PGP signature ___ notmuch mailing list notmuch@notmuchmail.org http://notmuchmail.org/mailman/listinfo/notmuch
correct way to search for only PDF attachments
Hi, I would look to look for all emails from a colleague jongho. I tried: from:jongho attachment:pdf which seems to do as I wanted. To understand more, what does the following search for? from:jongho attachment:.*pdf I know it is incorrect as the results tell me, but what exactly does it do? Also, how does the first one above know that I want only PDF attachments and not an attachment called "pdformula.txt" ? Kind regards, Xu ___ notmuch mailing list notmuch@notmuchmail.org http://notmuchmail.org/mailman/listinfo/notmuch
