[nsbasic-ce] Re: e-PocketSetup alternatives

2008-12-24 Thread Tim Markoski 
I recently found this tool for handling Palm and Windows Mobile
installations.

http://www.beiks.com/installexpert/InstallExpert.asp





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Re: Re(2): [nsbasic-ce] Re: e-PocketSetup alternatives

2008-12-02 Thread Harold Wood 
ok will do!  thanks

--- On Tue, 12/2/08, George Henne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

From: George Henne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re(2): [nsbasic-ce] Re: e-PocketSetup alternatives
To: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Tuesday, December 2, 2008, 4:47 PM






I did a quick update to Tech Note 30, removing some of the bad links and
updating the sample scripts.
<http://www.nsbasic. com/ce/info/ technotes/ TN30.htm>

The hardest part is getting the .inf file right. A place to start might
be with the one we use for creating Runtime.ppc. exe, which is pretty
much a minimal installer, then having your program modify that:
<http://www.nsbasic. com/ce/info/ technotes/ TN30d.htm>

You can actually make it smaller by cleaning out all the unneeded
[CEDevice.*] paragraphs. For Windows Mobile, the only one you will need is

[CEDevice.PocketPC4 _ARM]
ProcessorType = 2577; StrongArm processors
VersionMin = 4.2
VersionMax = 100.0
BuildMax = 0xe000

You can then remove similar unneeded entries in the [SourceDisksNames] ,
[DefaultInstall] and [AddRegistry] sections.

Good luck, and don't hesitate to ask questions!

>Subject:   Re: [nsbasic-ce] Re: e-PocketSetup alternatives
>Date Sent: Today, 2:17 PM
>From:      Harold Wood 
>To:        [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com <[EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com>
>thanks!
>
>--- On Tue, 12/2/08, styskul <[EMAIL PROTECTED] net> wrote:
>From: styskul <[EMAIL PROTECTED] net>
>Subject: [nsbasic-ce] Re: e-PocketSetup alternatives
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com
>Date: Tuesday, December 2, 2008, 2:05 PM
>
>Here's a good place to start: http://msdn. microsoft. com/en-
>us/library/ aa458981 .aspx
>
>--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com, Harold Wood  
>wrote:
>>
>> george
>> can you send me any documentation you have on the .inf file 
>format?  i would be interested in writing a front end editor.
>>  
>> thanks
>>  
>> woody
>> 
>> --- On Thu, 11/27/08, Tim Markoski <[EMAIL PROTECTED] ..> wrote:
>> 
>> From: Tim Markoski <[EMAIL PROTECTED] ..>
>> Subject: [nsbasic-ce] Re: e-PocketSetup alternatives
>> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com
>> Date: Thursday, November 27, 2008, 10:28 PM
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> George,
>> 
>> You may wish to contact these people for a possible arrangement.
>> 
>> http://www.ocpsoftw are.com/products .php?nm=cecabmgr
>> 
>> --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com, "George Henne"  wrote:
>> >
>> > Now that e-PocketSetup is gone, some sort of alternative is 
>needed.
>> > 
>> > We have always used Microsoft's tools for this ourselves, as 
>described
>> > in this Tech Note:
>> > <http://www.nsbasic. com/ce/info/ technotes/ TN30.htm>
>> > 
>> > You create a .inf file that contains all the information about 
>your
>> > project. Microsoft's CabWiz.exe program processes that to make 
>one or
>> > more CAB files. EZSetup is then used to wrap the CAB files into a
>> > compressed exe.
>> > 
>> > Once you get it set up, it an easy to use and powerful method. 
>However,
>> > editing the .inf file isn't the easiest thing: there are many 
>options,
>> > and the documentation isn't great. Also, CabWiz.exe is only 
>available as
>> > part of Microsoft's Windows Mobile SDK, which is a big download. 
>> > 
>> > Side Note: e-PocketSetup installs CabWiz.exe. I wonder if 
>Microsoft has
>> > given permission for this?
>> > 
>> > I think it would not be too hard to create a front end to edit 
>the .inf
>> > files, especially if you wanted to make something for just NS 
>Basic
>> > users. We don't have time right now ourselves to devote to this, 
>but I
>> > will be happy to share all I know about how .inf files work with 
>anyone
>> > who is interested. It might make a nice collaborative project for
>> the group.
>> > 
>> > 
>> > George Henne 
>> > NS BASIC Corporation
>> > http://www.nsbasic. com
>> >
>>
>
>

 












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Re(2): [nsbasic-ce] Re: e-PocketSetup alternatives

2008-12-02 Thread George Henne 
I did a quick update to Tech Note 30, removing some of the bad links and
updating the sample scripts.
<http://www.nsbasic.com/ce/info/technotes/TN30.htm>

The hardest part is getting the .inf file right. A place to start might
be with the one we use for creating Runtime.ppc.exe, which is pretty
much a minimal installer, then having your program modify that:
<http://www.nsbasic.com/ce/info/technotes/TN30d.htm>

You can actually make it smaller by cleaning out all the unneeded
[CEDevice.*] paragraphs. For Windows Mobile, the only one you will need is

[CEDevice.PocketPC4_ARM]
ProcessorType = 2577; StrongArm processors
VersionMin = 4.2
VersionMax = 100.0
BuildMax = 0xe000

You can then remove similar unneeded entries in the [SourceDisksNames],
[DefaultInstall] and [AddRegistry] sections.

Good luck, and don't hesitate to ask questions!

>Subject:   Re: [nsbasic-ce] Re: e-PocketSetup alternatives
>Date Sent: Today, 2:17 PM
>From:      Harold Wood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To:        [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>thanks!
>
>--- On Tue, 12/2/08, styskul <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>From: styskul <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: [nsbasic-ce] Re: e-PocketSetup alternatives
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Date: Tuesday, December 2, 2008, 2:05 PM
>
>Here's a good place to start: http://msdn. microsoft. com/en-
>us/library/aa458981 .aspx
>
>--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com, Harold Wood  
>wrote:
>>
>> george
>> can you send me any documentation you have on the .inf file 
>format?  i would be interested in writing a front end editor.
>>  
>> thanks
>>  
>> woody
>> 
>> --- On Thu, 11/27/08, Tim Markoski <[EMAIL PROTECTED] ..> wrote:
>> 
>> From: Tim Markoski <[EMAIL PROTECTED] ..>
>> Subject: [nsbasic-ce] Re: e-PocketSetup alternatives
>> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com
>> Date: Thursday, November 27, 2008, 10:28 PM
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> George,
>> 
>> You may wish to contact these people for a possible arrangement.
>> 
>> http://www.ocpsoftw are.com/products .php?nm=cecabmgr
>> 
>> --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com, "George Henne"  wrote:
>> >
>> > Now that e-PocketSetup is gone, some sort of alternative is 
>needed.
>> > 
>> > We have always used Microsoft's tools for this ourselves, as 
>described
>> > in this Tech Note:
>> > <http://www.nsbasic. com/ce/info/ technotes/ TN30.htm>
>> > 
>> > You create a .inf file that contains all the information about 
>your
>> > project. Microsoft's CabWiz.exe program processes that to make 
>one or
>> > more CAB files. EZSetup is then used to wrap the CAB files into a
>> > compressed exe.
>> > 
>> > Once you get it set up, it an easy to use and powerful method. 
>However,
>> > editing the .inf file isn't the easiest thing: there are many 
>options,
>> > and the documentation isn't great. Also, CabWiz.exe is only 
>available as
>> > part of Microsoft's Windows Mobile SDK, which is a big download. 
>> > 
>> > Side Note: e-PocketSetup installs CabWiz.exe. I wonder if 
>Microsoft has
>> > given permission for this?
>> > 
>> > I think it would not be too hard to create a front end to edit 
>the .inf
>> > files, especially if you wanted to make something for just NS 
>Basic
>> > users. We don't have time right now ourselves to devote to this, 
>but I
>> > will be happy to share all I know about how .inf files work with 
>anyone
>> > who is interested. It might make a nice collaborative project for
>> the group.
>> > 
>> > 
>> > George Henne 
>> > NS BASIC Corporation
>> > http://www.nsbasic. com
>> >
>>
>
>


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[nsbasic-ce] Re: e-PocketSetup alternatives

2008-12-02 Thread styskul 
Here's a good place to start: http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-
us/library/aa458981.aspx

--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Harold Wood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>
> george
> can you send me any documentation you have on the .inf file 
format?  i would be interested in writing a front end editor.
>  
> thanks
>  
> woody
> 
> --- On Thu, 11/27/08, Tim Markoski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> From: Tim Markoski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: [nsbasic-ce] Re: e-PocketSetup alternatives
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Date: Thursday, November 27, 2008, 10:28 PM
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> George,
> 
> You may wish to contact these people for a possible arrangement.
> 
> http://www.ocpsoftw are.com/products .php?nm=cecabmgr
> 
> --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com, "George Henne"  wrote:
> >
> > Now that e-PocketSetup is gone, some sort of alternative is 
needed.
> > 
> > We have always used Microsoft's tools for this ourselves, as 
described
> > in this Tech Note:
> > <http://www.nsbasic. com/ce/info/ technotes/ TN30.htm>
> > 
> > You create a .inf file that contains all the information about 
your
> > project. Microsoft's CabWiz.exe program processes that to make 
one or
> > more CAB files. EZSetup is then used to wrap the CAB files into a
> > compressed exe.
> > 
> > Once you get it set up, it an easy to use and powerful method. 
However,
> > editing the .inf file isn't the easiest thing: there are many 
options,
> > and the documentation isn't great. Also, CabWiz.exe is only 
available as
> > part of Microsoft's Windows Mobile SDK, which is a big download. 
> > 
> > Side Note: e-PocketSetup installs CabWiz.exe. I wonder if 
Microsoft has
> > given permission for this?
> > 
> > I think it would not be too hard to create a front end to edit 
the .inf
> > files, especially if you wanted to make something for just NS 
Basic
> > users. We don't have time right now ourselves to devote to this, 
but I
> > will be happy to share all I know about how .inf files work with 
anyone
> > who is interested. It might make a nice collaborative project for
> the group.
> > 
> > 
> > George Henne 
> > NS BASIC Corporation
> > http://www.nsbasic. com
> >
>



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Re: [nsbasic-ce] Re: e-PocketSetup alternatives

2008-12-02 Thread Harold Wood 
thanks!

--- On Tue, 12/2/08, styskul <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

From: styskul <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [nsbasic-ce] Re: e-PocketSetup alternatives
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Tuesday, December 2, 2008, 2:05 PM






Here's a good place to start: http://msdn. microsoft. com/en-
us/library/aa458981 .aspx

--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com, Harold Wood  
wrote:
>
> george
> can you send me any documentation you have on the .inf file 
format?  i would be interested in writing a front end editor.
>  
> thanks
>  
> woody
> 
> --- On Thu, 11/27/08, Tim Markoski <[EMAIL PROTECTED] ..> wrote:
> 
> From: Tim Markoski <[EMAIL PROTECTED] ..>
> Subject: [nsbasic-ce] Re: e-PocketSetup alternatives
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com
> Date: Thursday, November 27, 2008, 10:28 PM
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> George,
> 
> You may wish to contact these people for a possible arrangement.
> 
> http://www.ocpsoftw are.com/products .php?nm=cecabmgr
> 
> --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com, "George Henne"  wrote:
> >
> > Now that e-PocketSetup is gone, some sort of alternative is 
needed.
> > 
> > We have always used Microsoft's tools for this ourselves, as 
described
> > in this Tech Note:
> > <http://www.nsbasic. com/ce/info/ technotes/ TN30.htm>
> > 
> > You create a .inf file that contains all the information about 
your
> > project. Microsoft's CabWiz.exe program processes that to make 
one or
> > more CAB files. EZSetup is then used to wrap the CAB files into a
> > compressed exe.
> > 
> > Once you get it set up, it an easy to use and powerful method. 
However,
> > editing the .inf file isn't the easiest thing: there are many 
options,
> > and the documentation isn't great. Also, CabWiz.exe is only 
available as
> > part of Microsoft's Windows Mobile SDK, which is a big download. 
> > 
> > Side Note: e-PocketSetup installs CabWiz.exe. I wonder if 
Microsoft has
> > given permission for this?
> > 
> > I think it would not be too hard to create a front end to edit 
the .inf
> > files, especially if you wanted to make something for just NS 
Basic
> > users. We don't have time right now ourselves to devote to this, 
but I
> > will be happy to share all I know about how .inf files work with 
anyone
> > who is interested. It might make a nice collaborative project for
> the group.
> > 
> > 
> > George Henne 
> > NS BASIC Corporation
> > http://www.nsbasic. com
> >
>

 












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Re: [nsbasic-ce] Re: e-PocketSetup alternatives

2008-12-02 Thread Harold Wood 
george
can you send me any documentation you have on the .inf file format?  i would be 
interested in writing a front end editor.
 
thanks
 
woody

--- On Thu, 11/27/08, Tim Markoski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

From: Tim Markoski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [nsbasic-ce] Re: e-PocketSetup alternatives
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George,

You may wish to contact these people for a possible arrangement.

http://www.ocpsoftw are.com/products .php?nm=cecabmgr

--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com, "George Henne" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Now that e-PocketSetup is gone, some sort of alternative is needed.
> 
> We have always used Microsoft's tools for this ourselves, as described
> in this Tech Note:
> <http://www.nsbasic. com/ce/info/ technotes/ TN30.htm>
> 
> You create a .inf file that contains all the information about your
> project. Microsoft's CabWiz.exe program processes that to make one or
> more CAB files. EZSetup is then used to wrap the CAB files into a
> compressed exe.
> 
> Once you get it set up, it an easy to use and powerful method. However,
> editing the .inf file isn't the easiest thing: there are many options,
> and the documentation isn't great. Also, CabWiz.exe is only available as
> part of Microsoft's Windows Mobile SDK, which is a big download. 
> 
> Side Note: e-PocketSetup installs CabWiz.exe. I wonder if Microsoft has
> given permission for this?
> 
> I think it would not be too hard to create a front end to edit the .inf
> files, especially if you wanted to make something for just NS Basic
> users. We don't have time right now ourselves to devote to this, but I
> will be happy to share all I know about how .inf files work with anyone
> who is interested. It might make a nice collaborative project for
the group.
> 
> 
> George Henne 
> NS BASIC Corporation
> http://www.nsbasic. com
>

 












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[nsbasic-ce] Re: e-PocketSetup alternatives

2008-11-27 Thread Tim Markoski 
George,

You may wish to contact these people for a possible arrangement.

http://www.ocpsoftware.com/products.php?nm=cecabmgr

--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], "George Henne" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Now that e-PocketSetup is gone, some sort of alternative is needed.
> 
> We have always used Microsoft's tools for this ourselves, as described
> in this Tech Note:
> 
> 
> You create a .inf file that contains all the information about your
> project. Microsoft's CabWiz.exe program processes that to make one or
> more CAB files. EZSetup is then used to wrap the CAB files into a
> compressed exe.
> 
> Once you get it set up, it an easy to use and powerful method. However,
> editing the .inf file isn't the easiest thing: there are many options,
> and the documentation isn't great. Also, CabWiz.exe is only available as
> part of Microsoft's Windows Mobile SDK, which is a big download. 
> 
> Side Note: e-PocketSetup installs CabWiz.exe. I wonder if Microsoft has
> given permission for this?
> 
> I think it would not be too hard to create a front end to edit the .inf
> files, especially if you wanted to make something for just NS Basic
> users. We don't have time right now ourselves to devote to this, but I
> will be happy to share all I know about how .inf files work with anyone
> who is interested. It might make a nice collaborative project for
the group.
> 
> 
> George Henne 
> NS BASIC Corporation
> http://www.nsbasic.com
>



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