[NSP] Re: [BULK] Re: [nsp] file - William Darling
Yes, the William Darling is Grace Darling's father. It's a lovely little manuscript, currently on loan to the RNLI Museum at Bamburgh. William Dobson's manuscript also contains a list of tunes he could play, neatly divided up according to key signature; he obviously didn't feel the need to write down tunes he could play without dots! Best wishes Margaret -- Gibbons, John wrote : And the place! John -Original Message- From: lute-...@cs.d... [mailto:lute-...@cs.d...] On Behalf Of Paul Gretton Sent: 02 November 2009 17:10 To: n...@cs.d... Subject: [NSP] Re: [BULK] Re: [nsp] file This is fascinating stuff. Thanks, Margaret. BTW, could the William Darling whom you mention possibly be Grace Darling's dad? The date you give could fit. Cheers, Paul Gretton -- This message was sent on behalf of marga...@wyngarth7.fsnet.co.uk at openSubscriber.com http://www.opensubscriber.com/message/nsp@cs.dartmouth.edu/12990303.html To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[NSP] Re: schei greiss
Hi Anthony, This gives a perfect example, the letters you know but not in the order that I set them. You attempted a joke that some may find amusing, probably because your imagination could not crack the code. Perhaps this will soften your hardline stance on written things, you would have to be in Luxembourg for a couple of years to get to grips with its' language, but if you had a set of written crib cards it would be possible for you to start on the language from the comfort of your home. Now, to address your standpoint on dots, we need audio clues to help us try to imitate the sounds and eventually they stick in the audio soundbank. I do so agree, but not to the extent that you propose. Modern (new research) concert instrumentalists, starting as children now learn their instrument by ear for the first few years, when they have learnt the instrument and some of its' possibilities, they are introduced to the dots and in so doing create a happy medium and a happy player. In recent mails Tom Clough was reported to have said that Thomas Todd forbade him playing the melodyof the Barrington, he had first to learn the exercises (Julia; are there any random exercises kicking about?) -- some of us need the dots to see the exercises as we can't get to learn from an expert, there are not enough to go round. You know from your experience that it takes a lot of time to imprint a melody into the audiobank(brain). The older you get the longer it can take, some are lucky in that they already have enough to go on and merely refresh old memories, I envy their good fortune. We need the dots as memory helpers, us mortals wot don't concert or barn dance etc. We know we are mortals, so don't knock what you don't have the background to comprehend, you had it all around you all your life, us out here ain't got it and probably won't get it. I will try to be like the Philharmonic, they know their instrument, they have practiced, and they use their music for clues and memory assists, but they all play the conductors interpretation of the piece, emotion, speed, warts and all. I am still trying to learn about my pipes but for me it is a slow, fascinating process I hope will never end. I love them --- and without NSP dots I would be playing Boismortier, Corrette, Lullay, Rameau, Zweitackters, alouette, Himmelsmaerch, Mozart, etc etc Tra 4 now ( confirmed dots supporter) Dave S ( Anthony Robb wrote: Dave I did have one but the wheels fell off. Anthony --- On *Mon, 2/11/09, Dave S /david...@pt.lu/* wrote: From: Dave S david...@pt.lu Subject: [NSP] schei greiss To: nsp@cs.dartmouth.edu Date: Monday, 2 November, 2009, 7:23 PM Wunnerbar eppes vun déi schéi sprooch vun hei ze léiesen kriit's d'och schéi greiss vun Useldéng Dave S To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/%7Ewbc/lute-admin/index.html No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.424 / Virus Database: 270.14.45/2476 - Release Date: 11/02/09 07:51:00
[NSP] Re: Overlooked
Considering the Irish musicians I have played with - predominantly ear-players, some necessarily so, none of them played *from* the dots, but many of the versions in the sessions we played in were very close to literate sources such as O'Neill and Breathnach. Some of these versions were widely current before they were printed of course. But if a set of tunes played together corresponds to a page of Breathnach, it is safe to conclude that the playing was largely informed by this printed source, even if everyone played by ear. John -Original Message- From: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] On Behalf Of Dave S Sent: 03 November 2009 14:36 To: nsp@cs.dartmouth.edu Subject: [NSP] Overlooked Hi Anthony, I think John encapsulated it very well --- and further, we are all overlooking/forgetting the vocal score all the dance band musicians, not forgetting yourself, use; the vocal score being an ear roasting by one of the guys saying we don't play THAT.. we play it like this . or am I mistaken in thinking that all the top musicians play(ed) with like minded/musicked people never corrected vocally a tune that did not run to their ideas. mFG Dave S To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[NSP] An enquiry - Pallister family of Cambo - 3 xi 2009
I was at a family party last weekend, where I played. As soon as he saw my pipes, cousin of mine said he'd seen and heard pipes before. Somewhere around 1949, his father was working away from home on the construction of a dam and he went up to stay there. He told me that he stayed at Cambo with a family called Pallister and that the head of the family was a piper. He played a large number of instruments, regularly, probably more than one evening a week. He told my cousin that he could pick up most instruments fairly quickly, sometimes in a matter of minutes. I agreed with him that I'd see if I could find out a bit more for him. So, I know this is 60 years ago, but does anyone know anything about a piper and player of other instruments from Cambo called Pallister? Did anyone out here meet him personally, remember him or know anything more about his life? As a matter of interest also, does anyone know what dam was being built around 1949? To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[NSP] NSP maker Ian Ketchin
A friend of mine has noticed a set of Northumbrian small pipes for sale on e-bay and has asked me what I think of them. I have never heard of the maker, Ian Ketchin, but he has a very impressive web page. Is there a reason why he is not listed as a maker on any of the usual web sites? Any information would be appreciated. Richard -- To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[NSP] Re: An enquiry - Pallister family of Cambo - 3 xi 2009
marga...@wyngarth7.fsnet.co.uk wrote: My guess is that it may have been Jimmy Pallister There are recordings of him playing three or four tracks on 'Morpeth Rant' - Sounds like it was him from the Morpeth Rant notes A retired blacksmith, living in Cambo, Jimmy Pallister started to learn the fiddle at the age of 21. He says he just bred music and played by ear almost everything I had touched. Ian www.bagpipediscs.com To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
