[NSP] Re: pipe cases

2010-02-18 Thread Philip Gruar
Thanks to all who have responded to my question, on- and off-list. The 
suggestions, and the pipes-carrying solutions actually used by people here 
range from Kingham, whose website is worth a look just for the gallery of 
exotic instruments, but whose prices may be a little steep even for the most 
up-market set of pipes (£200 just for a basic bow case) - to a plastic bag 
from Sainsbury's.
I'm exploring a few ideas, but haven't found the solution yet, so any more 
info and ideas for suppliers of lightweight, weather-proof, and preferably 
rigid cases of the right size and at the right price will still be welcome.
Philip 




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[NSP] Re: pipe cases

2010-02-18 Thread Francis Wood
The best and most ingenious pipes-carrying solution I ever saw was devised and 
made by Jon Swayne. This consisted of a neat shoulder bag which unfolded to 
become the pipes bag. As I remember, the drones and chanter were removed safely 
and easily so they could be contained in the bag when on the move. Such a neat 
idea!

Thanks, Philip for those interesting links. I particularly enjoyed the serpent 
case!

Your specification: 'lightweight, weather-proof, and preferably rigid cases' 
might be best met by a maker of cases for scientific equipment to be taken on 
expeditions where the weight/ protective aspects are paramount. Such a source 
might provide a rather costly solution though perhaps someone may will have 
further ideas on this.


Francis




On 18 Feb 2010, at 13:08, Philip Gruar wrote:

 Thanks to all who have responded to my question, on- and off-list. The 
 suggestions, and the pipes-carrying solutions actually used by people here 
 range from Kingham, whose website is worth a look just for the gallery of 
 exotic instruments, but whose prices may be a little steep even for the most 
 up-market set of pipes (£200 just for a basic bow case) - to a plastic bag 
 from Sainsbury's.
 I'm exploring a few ideas, but haven't found the solution yet, so any more 
 info and ideas for suppliers of lightweight, weather-proof, and preferably 
 rigid cases of the right size and at the right price will still be welcome.
 Philip 
 
 
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[NSP] Re: pipe cases

2010-02-18 Thread DEREK LOFTHOUSE
I use a Pelican 1550 case that holds my NSP, Border Pipes, Flute,
   assorted whistles and even a few tune books. It is pretty big and bulky
   but Pelican cases are literally indestructable.

I used last fall flying from Canada to England and back, had no
   hesitation giving it to the baggage handlers. I dont' think it even got
   scratched. The 1550 is a touch too big for Air Canada carry-on, and I
   was carrying a hurdy gurdy anyway.

There is a Belgian on the HurdyGurdy list, who is in the military, who
   has tried to blow up his Pelican case (empty) with grenades but it
   survived intact.

Granted the case is large, but if you travel and or fly it could save
   your instruments.



   Derek

   - Original Message -
   From: Philip Gruar phi...@gruar.clara.net
   Date: Thursday, February 18, 2010 6:19 am
   Subject: [NSP] Re: pipe cases
   To: Dartmouth NPS nsp@cs.dartmouth.edu
Thanks to all who have responded to my question, on- and off-
list. The
suggestions, and the pipes-carrying solutions actually used by
people here
range from Kingham, whose website is worth a look just for the
gallery of
exotic instruments, but whose prices may be a little steep even
for the most
up-market set of pipes (-L-200 just for a basic bow case) - to a
plastic bag
from Sainsbury's.
I'm exploring a few ideas, but haven't found the solution yet,
so any more
info and ideas for suppliers of lightweight, weather-proof, and
preferably
rigid cases of the right size and at the right price will still
be welcome.
Philip
   
   
   
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[NSP] Re: pipe cases

2010-02-18 Thread Matt Seattle
   On Thu, Feb 18, 2010 at 2:30 PM, DEREK LOFTHOUSE
   [1]dloftho...@shaw.ca wrote:

There is a Belgian on the HurdyGurdy list, who is in the
 military, who
   has tried to blow up his Pelican case (empty) with grenades but it
   survived intact.

   DON'T TRY THIS AT HOME !

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[NSP] Re: pipe cases

2010-02-18 Thread Richard Shuttleworth
I also use a Pelican 1550 case for my NSP when I am traveling between Canada 
and the UK.  As Derek says, it is too big to use as carry-on for Air Canada 
but it meets British Airways carry-on dimensions.


- Original Message - 
From: DEREK LOFTHOUSE dloftho...@shaw.ca

To: Philip Gruar phi...@gruar.clara.net
Cc: Dartmouth NPS nsp@cs.dartmouth.edu
Sent: Thursday, February 18, 2010 9:30 AM
Subject: [NSP] Re: pipe cases



   I use a Pelican 1550 case that holds my NSP, Border Pipes, Flute,
  assorted whistles and even a few tune books. It is pretty big and bulky
  but Pelican cases are literally indestructable.

   I used last fall flying from Canada to England and back, had no
  hesitation giving it to the baggage handlers. I dont' think it even got
  scratched. The 1550 is a touch too big for Air Canada carry-on, and I
  was carrying a hurdy gurdy anyway.

   There is a Belgian on the HurdyGurdy list, who is in the military, who
  has tried to blow up his Pelican case (empty) with grenades but it
  survived intact.

   Granted the case is large, but if you travel and or fly it could save
  your instruments.








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[NSP] Re: pipe cases

2010-02-18 Thread Richard York



There are just too many obvious openings for unkind remarks about why 
one would bother to take the Gurdy out before trying the test but as 
a gurdy player I'm far too kind to make them. :-)


Richard.


There is a Belgian on the HurdyGurdy list, who is in the military, who
   has tried to blow up his Pelican case (empty) with grenades but it
   survived intact.

 
  




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[NSP] Re: pipe cases

2010-02-18 Thread Paul Gretton

I do recall, on another piping list, someone mentioning using a length of 
(wide) plastic drainpipe with a strap riveted on for carrying purposes (the 
ends being made from drainpipe end bits they use to seal off a pipe - the 
unused end being stuck with the solvent..
Of course, quite waterproof but one would have to ensure the bellows fitted 
in as well..

Colin Hill.


That recommendation came from me and referred to cases for GHB practice
chanters. I have made numerous cases for wind instruments out of drainpipe
and have always found them extremely strong and convenient, not to mention
very cheap. (I've even made them for cornetti - you can bend the drainpipe
with boiling water.) They also have the advantage of not advertising the
fact that they contain a valuable nickable instrument. I don't know if you
can easily find a size that would accommodate bellows. The trouble is that
the bigger the diameter, the greater the length you have to buy. At that
diameter, you might need to buy thirty feet!

Cheers,

Paul Gretton



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[NSP] Re: pipe cases

2010-02-18 Thread Gibbons, John
 GHB will of course need a much bigger pipe, 
and *both* ends should be stuck on.

John

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Paul Gretton
Sent: 18 February 2010 16:52
To: 'colin'; 'Dartmouth NPS'
Subject: [NSP] Re: pipe cases


I do recall, on another piping list, someone mentioning using a length of 
(wide) plastic drainpipe with a strap riveted on for carrying purposes (the 
ends being made from drainpipe end bits they use to seal off a pipe - the 
unused end being stuck with the solvent..
Of course, quite waterproof but one would have to ensure the bellows fitted 
in as well..

Colin Hill.



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[NSP] Re: pipe cases

2010-02-18 Thread Victor Eskenazi
   Richard,
   If you modify your end plugs so that the outer parts are square, it
   will not roll around in the back of your car.  Also, if you have any
   kind of a carrying strap affixed to it, that to will stop the rolling
   effect.
   Of course, depending on the slope of the river bank, anything will
   roll/fall into the river :-)
   Victor

   On Thu, Feb 18, 2010 at 12:30, Richard York
   [1]rich...@lizards.force9.co.uk wrote:

 I have a really useful lightweight case made from the ribbed black
 duct/pipe/tube whatever you may call it, about 6 or 7 inch internal
 diameter, which I rescued from surplus when they were laying new
 electric cables near us some 12 years ago. The nice man said that
 that pile was surplus offcuts, so I rescued some, and passed the
 other bits on to other pipers. (It no longer says East Midlands
 Electricity so clearly on it any more.)
 My dad kindly turned some wood into end plugs, one removable for the
 lid, fitting into a junction bit that was lying around.
 I wouldn't trust it with grenades, nor even squaddies jumping up 
 down on it (does this guy really hate his case so much?) but in
 normal robust use it's great, light, and waterproof.
 And you can tie a carrying strap firmly into the corrugations of the
 outside layer without having to make any holes in it.
 The only down side is that it's prone to roll, in the back of the
 car, or if placed on a slope, so no putting it down on riverbanks,
 for example!
 Keep your eyes open when driving past roadworks. They come in
 various sizes. Mine carries a set of Jon Swayne mouthblown G pipes
 very happily.
 I also use a drainpipe sawn in half longways and hinged, which came
 with a very second hand bass curtal I bought ages ago. It's even
 been tastefully covered with Fablon (remember it?!) wood effect
 sticky vinyl to make it look more like a proper case! Lined with
 foam, it works a treat.
 Best wishes,
 Richard.
 colin wrote:

 I do recall, on another piping list, someone mentioning using a
 length of (wide) plastic drainpipe with a strap riveted on for
 carrying purposes (the ends being made from drainpipe end bits
 they use to seal off a pipe - the unused end being stuck with the
 solvent..
 Of course, quite waterproof but one would have to ensure the bellows
 fitted in as well..
 Colin Hill.
 PS Yeah, I remember the Dutch guy and his Pelican case. I think he
 also has his squad jumping up and down on it as well. All survived.

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[NSP] Re: pipe cases

2010-02-18 Thread neihutch-oz

   On the subject of pelican type cases, i am waiting to see what the
   following case is like. I've seen some of the companies other cases and
   they're very similar to pelican (100% waterproof, bombproof etc), but
   lighter. It seems like it would be the perfect fit for NSP and would
   fit all of your requirements. No idea on cost yet as apparently they
   won't be rolling of the production line for another couple of
   months. When i get to see one though i will report back.

   [1]http://www.plaber.com/2580.htm

   - Neil

   --- On Thu, 18/2/10, Philip Gruar phi...@gruar.clara.net wrote:

 From: Philip Gruar phi...@gruar.clara.net
 Subject: [NSP] Re: pipe cases
 To: Dartmouth NPS nsp@cs.dartmouth.edu
 Date: Thursday, 18 February, 2010, 13:08

   Thanks to all who have responded to my question, on- and off-list. The
   suggestions, and the pipes-carrying solutions actually used by people
   here range from Kingham, whose website is worth a look just for the
   gallery of exotic instruments, but whose prices may be a little steep
   even for the most up-market set of pipes (-L-200 just for a basic bow
   case) - to a plastic bag from Sainsbury's.
   I'm exploring a few ideas, but haven't found the solution yet, so any
   more info and ideas for suppliers of lightweight, weather-proof, and
   preferably rigid cases of the right size and at the right price will
   still be welcome.
   Philip
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