[NSP] Re: pipe cases
Thanks to all who have responded to my question, on- and off-list. The suggestions, and the pipes-carrying solutions actually used by people here range from Kingham, whose website is worth a look just for the gallery of exotic instruments, but whose prices may be a little steep even for the most up-market set of pipes (£200 just for a basic bow case) - to a plastic bag from Sainsbury's. I'm exploring a few ideas, but haven't found the solution yet, so any more info and ideas for suppliers of lightweight, weather-proof, and preferably rigid cases of the right size and at the right price will still be welcome. Philip To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[NSP] Re: pipe cases
The best and most ingenious pipes-carrying solution I ever saw was devised and made by Jon Swayne. This consisted of a neat shoulder bag which unfolded to become the pipes bag. As I remember, the drones and chanter were removed safely and easily so they could be contained in the bag when on the move. Such a neat idea! Thanks, Philip for those interesting links. I particularly enjoyed the serpent case! Your specification: 'lightweight, weather-proof, and preferably rigid cases' might be best met by a maker of cases for scientific equipment to be taken on expeditions where the weight/ protective aspects are paramount. Such a source might provide a rather costly solution though perhaps someone may will have further ideas on this. Francis On 18 Feb 2010, at 13:08, Philip Gruar wrote: Thanks to all who have responded to my question, on- and off-list. The suggestions, and the pipes-carrying solutions actually used by people here range from Kingham, whose website is worth a look just for the gallery of exotic instruments, but whose prices may be a little steep even for the most up-market set of pipes (£200 just for a basic bow case) - to a plastic bag from Sainsbury's. I'm exploring a few ideas, but haven't found the solution yet, so any more info and ideas for suppliers of lightweight, weather-proof, and preferably rigid cases of the right size and at the right price will still be welcome. Philip To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[NSP] Re: pipe cases
I use a Pelican 1550 case that holds my NSP, Border Pipes, Flute, assorted whistles and even a few tune books. It is pretty big and bulky but Pelican cases are literally indestructable. I used last fall flying from Canada to England and back, had no hesitation giving it to the baggage handlers. I dont' think it even got scratched. The 1550 is a touch too big for Air Canada carry-on, and I was carrying a hurdy gurdy anyway. There is a Belgian on the HurdyGurdy list, who is in the military, who has tried to blow up his Pelican case (empty) with grenades but it survived intact. Granted the case is large, but if you travel and or fly it could save your instruments. Derek - Original Message - From: Philip Gruar phi...@gruar.clara.net Date: Thursday, February 18, 2010 6:19 am Subject: [NSP] Re: pipe cases To: Dartmouth NPS nsp@cs.dartmouth.edu Thanks to all who have responded to my question, on- and off- list. The suggestions, and the pipes-carrying solutions actually used by people here range from Kingham, whose website is worth a look just for the gallery of exotic instruments, but whose prices may be a little steep even for the most up-market set of pipes (-L-200 just for a basic bow case) - to a plastic bag from Sainsbury's. I'm exploring a few ideas, but haven't found the solution yet, so any more info and ideas for suppliers of lightweight, weather-proof, and preferably rigid cases of the right size and at the right price will still be welcome. Philip To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html --
[NSP] Re: pipe cases
On Thu, Feb 18, 2010 at 2:30 PM, DEREK LOFTHOUSE [1]dloftho...@shaw.ca wrote: There is a Belgian on the HurdyGurdy list, who is in the military, who has tried to blow up his Pelican case (empty) with grenades but it survived intact. DON'T TRY THIS AT HOME ! -- References 1. mailto:dloftho...@shaw.ca To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[NSP] Re: pipe cases
I also use a Pelican 1550 case for my NSP when I am traveling between Canada and the UK. As Derek says, it is too big to use as carry-on for Air Canada but it meets British Airways carry-on dimensions. - Original Message - From: DEREK LOFTHOUSE dloftho...@shaw.ca To: Philip Gruar phi...@gruar.clara.net Cc: Dartmouth NPS nsp@cs.dartmouth.edu Sent: Thursday, February 18, 2010 9:30 AM Subject: [NSP] Re: pipe cases I use a Pelican 1550 case that holds my NSP, Border Pipes, Flute, assorted whistles and even a few tune books. It is pretty big and bulky but Pelican cases are literally indestructable. I used last fall flying from Canada to England and back, had no hesitation giving it to the baggage handlers. I dont' think it even got scratched. The 1550 is a touch too big for Air Canada carry-on, and I was carrying a hurdy gurdy anyway. There is a Belgian on the HurdyGurdy list, who is in the military, who has tried to blow up his Pelican case (empty) with grenades but it survived intact. Granted the case is large, but if you travel and or fly it could save your instruments. To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[NSP] Re: pipe cases
There are just too many obvious openings for unkind remarks about why one would bother to take the Gurdy out before trying the test but as a gurdy player I'm far too kind to make them. :-) Richard. There is a Belgian on the HurdyGurdy list, who is in the military, who has tried to blow up his Pelican case (empty) with grenades but it survived intact. To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[NSP] Re: pipe cases
I do recall, on another piping list, someone mentioning using a length of (wide) plastic drainpipe with a strap riveted on for carrying purposes (the ends being made from drainpipe end bits they use to seal off a pipe - the unused end being stuck with the solvent.. Of course, quite waterproof but one would have to ensure the bellows fitted in as well.. Colin Hill. That recommendation came from me and referred to cases for GHB practice chanters. I have made numerous cases for wind instruments out of drainpipe and have always found them extremely strong and convenient, not to mention very cheap. (I've even made them for cornetti - you can bend the drainpipe with boiling water.) They also have the advantage of not advertising the fact that they contain a valuable nickable instrument. I don't know if you can easily find a size that would accommodate bellows. The trouble is that the bigger the diameter, the greater the length you have to buy. At that diameter, you might need to buy thirty feet! Cheers, Paul Gretton To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[NSP] Re: pipe cases
GHB will of course need a much bigger pipe, and *both* ends should be stuck on. John -Original Message- From: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] On Behalf Of Paul Gretton Sent: 18 February 2010 16:52 To: 'colin'; 'Dartmouth NPS' Subject: [NSP] Re: pipe cases I do recall, on another piping list, someone mentioning using a length of (wide) plastic drainpipe with a strap riveted on for carrying purposes (the ends being made from drainpipe end bits they use to seal off a pipe - the unused end being stuck with the solvent.. Of course, quite waterproof but one would have to ensure the bellows fitted in as well.. Colin Hill. To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[NSP] Re: pipe cases
Richard, If you modify your end plugs so that the outer parts are square, it will not roll around in the back of your car. Also, if you have any kind of a carrying strap affixed to it, that to will stop the rolling effect. Of course, depending on the slope of the river bank, anything will roll/fall into the river :-) Victor On Thu, Feb 18, 2010 at 12:30, Richard York [1]rich...@lizards.force9.co.uk wrote: I have a really useful lightweight case made from the ribbed black duct/pipe/tube whatever you may call it, about 6 or 7 inch internal diameter, which I rescued from surplus when they were laying new electric cables near us some 12 years ago. The nice man said that that pile was surplus offcuts, so I rescued some, and passed the other bits on to other pipers. (It no longer says East Midlands Electricity so clearly on it any more.) My dad kindly turned some wood into end plugs, one removable for the lid, fitting into a junction bit that was lying around. I wouldn't trust it with grenades, nor even squaddies jumping up down on it (does this guy really hate his case so much?) but in normal robust use it's great, light, and waterproof. And you can tie a carrying strap firmly into the corrugations of the outside layer without having to make any holes in it. The only down side is that it's prone to roll, in the back of the car, or if placed on a slope, so no putting it down on riverbanks, for example! Keep your eyes open when driving past roadworks. They come in various sizes. Mine carries a set of Jon Swayne mouthblown G pipes very happily. I also use a drainpipe sawn in half longways and hinged, which came with a very second hand bass curtal I bought ages ago. It's even been tastefully covered with Fablon (remember it?!) wood effect sticky vinyl to make it look more like a proper case! Lined with foam, it works a treat. Best wishes, Richard. colin wrote: I do recall, on another piping list, someone mentioning using a length of (wide) plastic drainpipe with a strap riveted on for carrying purposes (the ends being made from drainpipe end bits they use to seal off a pipe - the unused end being stuck with the solvent.. Of course, quite waterproof but one would have to ensure the bellows fitted in as well.. Colin Hill. PS Yeah, I remember the Dutch guy and his Pelican case. I think he also has his squad jumping up and down on it as well. All survived. To get on or off this list see list information at [2]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html -- References 1. mailto:rich...@lizards.force9.co.uk 2. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/%7Ewbc/lute-admin/index.html
[NSP] Re: pipe cases
On the subject of pelican type cases, i am waiting to see what the following case is like. I've seen some of the companies other cases and they're very similar to pelican (100% waterproof, bombproof etc), but lighter. It seems like it would be the perfect fit for NSP and would fit all of your requirements. No idea on cost yet as apparently they won't be rolling of the production line for another couple of months. When i get to see one though i will report back. [1]http://www.plaber.com/2580.htm - Neil --- On Thu, 18/2/10, Philip Gruar phi...@gruar.clara.net wrote: From: Philip Gruar phi...@gruar.clara.net Subject: [NSP] Re: pipe cases To: Dartmouth NPS nsp@cs.dartmouth.edu Date: Thursday, 18 February, 2010, 13:08 Thanks to all who have responded to my question, on- and off-list. The suggestions, and the pipes-carrying solutions actually used by people here range from Kingham, whose website is worth a look just for the gallery of exotic instruments, but whose prices may be a little steep even for the most up-market set of pipes (-L-200 just for a basic bow case) - to a plastic bag from Sainsbury's. I'm exploring a few ideas, but haven't found the solution yet, so any more info and ideas for suppliers of lightweight, weather-proof, and preferably rigid cases of the right size and at the right price will still be welcome. Philip To get on or off this list see list information at [2]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html -- References 1. http://www.plaber.com/2580.htm 2. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html