[NSP] Have you the GUTS?

2009-08-03 Thread Robert Greef
Well here we are in another twirl of the merrygoround on music styles. So to 
get to the guts of the debate I have to reiterate for the third time in 
recent memory Chris Ormston's dictum on the subject, enunciated in his mail 
of 1/10/2008:




As for choyting etc, it's the gold standard to learn to play without it,

then choose to include it later if you wish to. I'm not aware of anyone

who's succeeded the other way round.



Chris called this the gold standard, which is a good name for a concise and 
accurate summary of the styles debate. It says it all, and everything else 
is just noise. The fact that people do not seem to respect and pay attention 
to this rule means to me that it needs a snappier name. So I hereby dub this 
rule the Grand Unified Theory of Smallpiping. It has the advantage of a 
striking acronym.




I would recommend that all correspondents print it out in big letters, stick 
it onto cardboard and place it in full view so that they cannot ignore it 
when they feel the urge to contribute again to the styles scrap. No, I haven't 
done this myself, but that's because here in Southampton UK we speak of 
little else.




Robert




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[NSP] Re: NPS President Francis Wood's post

2009-05-23 Thread Robert Greef
This posting from Francis Wood summarises my feelings on the new president 
affair very eloquently and comprehensively, and moreover soothingly - as is 
his way. I would imagine that Colin Ross in particular could take comfort 
with the understanding shown of his awkward position in all of this. I would 
add my own good wishes to Colin, as I, among the legion, have from personal 
contact with him benefitted  from his expertise in pipe-fettling and 
reed-making, and he has my total respect in all things to do with pipes and 
piping and pipe music.


I find the campaign to subvert the completely legitimate and praiseworthy 
presidential selection process to be ill-conceived. It does no service to 
the society or more importantly to Colin Ross. Who could fail to be moved by 
Colin's account on the 19th of this month of the reasons behind his decision 
to step away from the selection process?


The campaign totally ignores what the effect on Colin could be of the 
additional stress of facing an election process when there would obviously 
be strong opposition. I hope that the organisers will reconsider their 
position, preferably sooner rather than later.

Robert

- Original Message - 
From: Francis Wood oatenp...@googlemail.com

To: annsess...@yahoo.co.uk; nsp@cs.dartmouth.edu
Sent: Saturday, May 23, 2009 2:56 PM
Subject: [NSP] NPS President




  Thank you, Ann, for providing further information about the
  President-elect and her piping interests and abilities,  which is much
  needed. Some brief Web-based research has provided further information
  indicating that Joyce Quin  has been very active in the House of Lords
  in supporting causes which, personally, I find admirable. Nobody will
  be surprised that they do not include issues intimately connected with
  smallpipes but they are worthy of respect. Other members will make
  their own minds up about this if they make similar enquiries.

  As to the election of the ex-Chairman as President, this really is a
  redundant issue. It seems that the Committee made their decision in
  accordance with the rules of the Society and giving due consideration
  to eligible and potentially willing candidates, neither of which
  categories included the Chairman at the time the decision was taken. I
  see no reason to distrust the processes by which this decision was
  reached and no doubt the Committee will wish to clarify the details if
  controversy continues.

  I understand that there is presently a campaign, so far conducted in
  private, to subvert the  Committees efforts and decision, and to
  persuade the former Chairman to become President. Members have already
  been informed by the Secretary via this list,that the Chairman decided
  to resign from the chair and the Committee as a result of medical
  advice. I am sure we would all wish him well and I am dismayed to hear
  of any ill-conceived interventions which might well compromise his
  health. No doubt he would wish to dissociate himself from these
  misguided efforts.

  I understand Anns misgivings and I share them. The distribution of
  skills in any gifted individual is frequently very uneven and (forgive
  my frankness) this is the issue at stake here.  Our Chairman has made
  an colossal contribution to the traditional music of this country  both
  as an advocate and performer. His position in the development of our
  pipes, one of the very few traditional instruments native to England,
  is inestimable and of importance in the wider field of innovative
  woodwind development. What more could one ask? These are not
  necessarily the qualities enabling the effective chairing of a
  committee or diplomatically and inclusively presiding over an
  organisation. Others can do those things perfectly well and possibly
  better, and should be permitted to do so.

  I would like to express my confidence in the NPS Committee, in their
  observance of fair practice, and in their decision on this matter.

  Francis Wood
  --


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[NSP] Re: I must be daft

2009-04-15 Thread Robert Greef

Hi Anita,
Thanks for this tension breaker! The crescendo of vituperation has to end 
somewhere, preferably before things start to get broken. Thank goodness for 
me pipes.

Bob

- Original Message - 
From: Anita Evans an...@evansweb.co.uk

To: Dartmouth nsp list N.P.S. site nsp@cs.dartmouth.edu
Sent: Wednesday, April 15, 2009 10:08 AM
Subject: [NSP] Re: I must be daft




Paul Gretton wrote:


'ere, 'ere! You lads stop messing around or I've give you a clip round 
the

ear! (says Dixon of Dock Green).

I used to like that programme - life seemed much simpler then, easier to 
differentiate between good and bad ;)


I wonder if he was related to William Dixon..?

--
Anita Evans



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[NSP] Re: I must be NICE

2009-04-15 Thread Robert Greef

OK Helen,
Anita is right - I can almost hear your dulcet tones in admonishment from 
here! Well done!

Bob

- Original Message - 
From: Anita Evans an...@evansweb.co.uk

To: Dartmouth nsp list N.P.S. site nsp@cs.dartmouth.edu
Sent: Wednesday, April 15, 2009 5:39 PM
Subject: [NSP] Re: I must be daft




Robert Greef wrote:

Hi Anita,
Thanks for this tension breaker! The crescendo of vituperation has to end 
somewhere, preferably before things start to get broken. Thank goodness 
for me pipes.

Bob


I think Helen should take the credit for that.

--
Anita Evans



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[NSP] Re: The Lost Music of Newsham

2009-03-15 Thread Robert Greef

Hear Hear to that!

Interesting query, too. Trade secrets?
Robert

- Original Message - 
From: Paul Rhodes oxpi...@hotmail.com

To: Dartmouth NSP nsp@cs.dartmouth.edu
Sent: Sunday, March 15, 2009 2:36 PM
Subject: [NSP] Re: The Lost Music of Newsham




  Thank you so much for these super recordings Chris.

  It's easy, with all the antagonism that turns up on this forum, to
  forget that most folks who play the Northumbrian Pipes are
  friendly, and generous with their expertise and talents. Good website
  too.

  Out of interest, how did you make the recordings, and what mikes do you
  use?

  all the best,

  Paul

   Date: Sun, 15 Mar 2009 12:28:27 +
   To: nsp@cs.dartmouth.edu
   From: ch...@chrisormston.com
   Subject: [NSP] The Lost Music of Newsham
  
   Hi All,
  
   In the new-found spirit of altruism on this list, and for those of
  you
   who've not already had a bootleg copy, I've uploaded some tracks of
   tunes from the Clough MS here:
  
  
   [1]http://chrisormston.com/clough.aspx
  
  
  
   Chris Ormston






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[NSP] Re: Keep on Ranting!

2009-03-14 Thread Robert Greef

Hi Tim,
When I tried this I got errors, but they were all to do with white space.
Delete the new line characters so that all the text is closed up without
blank lines - worked for me. This is a useful site, and its worth
persevering with if it doesn't work first time, because you get the dots as
well as the midi, which you can download to
mess around with if you want to put the agogics in etc, though it sounds
good as is. Nice tune!
Bob

- Original Message - 
From: tim rolls BT tim.ro...@btconnect.com
To: 'NSP List' nsp@cs.dartmouth.edu; Chris Ormston 
ch...@chrisormston.com

Sent: Saturday, March 14, 2009 9:40 AM
Subject: [NSP] Re: Keep on Ranting!




Thanks Chris,

Looks fascinating, but as I'm not familiar with abc, I tried pasting it on 
the site, on the abc converter, but got an error message, tried ticking a 
few boxes, but no improvement. Anyone more computer savvy who can tell me 
what I'm doing wrong?


Tim
- Original Message - 
From: Chris Ormston ch...@chrisormston.com

To: 'NSP List' nsp@cs.dartmouth.edu
Sent: Friday, March 13, 2009 9:24 PM
Subject: [NSP] Keep on Ranting!



  Here's a new one  - enjoy!


  X:1

  T:Keelman Brown of Newburn

  C:Chris Ormston

  M:4/4

  K:D

  de|fdfa d2dc|BGBd A2de|fdfa gfed|f2e2e2 de|fdfad2dc|BGBd A2 AG|FAGB
  Aage|f2d2d2:||

  ef|gBgf eAde|fAfe d2de|fdfa gfed|f2e2e2 ef|gBgf eAde|fAfe d2AG|FAGB
  Aage|f2d2d2:||


  For those who prefer dots, copy and paste the above here:

  [1]http://www.folkinfo.org/songs/abcconvert.php



  Chris Ormston

  chrisormston.com

  borderdirectors.com




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References

  1. http://www.folkinfo.org/songs/abcconvert.php


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[NSP] Re: More code?

2008-10-07 Thread Robert Greef


- Original Message - 
From: Robert Greef [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: Philip Gruar [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, October 07, 2008 11:24 AM
Subject: Re: [NSP] Re: More code?



Now that we know, we do have two (at least slightly) amusing responses!
All the best,
Robert

- Original Message - 
From: Philip Gruar [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: nsp@cs.dartmouth.edu
Sent: Tuesday, October 07, 2008 10:54 AM
Subject: [NSP] Re: More code?




In order to avoid in-crowd allusions, and in order to make everything 
clearly explained, I think that John should have explained that his 
reference here was to the Bible (the sacred book of the Christian 
religion - which believes that . Oh I guess you can find that 
elsewhere on the net)


The context is Saint Paul, First Letter to the Corinthians Now we see as 
through a glass, darkly, then we shall see face to face, 
meaning(look it up somewhere)


(incidentally, I am in tongue-in-cheek mode again here - apologies. No 
offence meant!)


Philip


Original Message - 
From: Gibbons, John [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Cc: nsp@cs.dartmouth.edu
Sent: Tuesday, October 07, 2008 10:13 AM
Subject: [NSP] Re: More code?


So neither content-free nor context-free

Now we see through a glass, (of Guinness) darkly...

John



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[NSP] Re: Heads and Tails

2008-10-07 Thread Robert Greef

Now that IS amusing!
I just hope that no-one has the cheek to tell us which part I am. Even in 
coded form!

Cheers, and welcome to the list, Helen.
Robert
- Original Message - 
From: Helen Fish [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: Dartmouth NSP nsp@cs.dartmouth.edu
Sent: Tuesday, October 07, 2008 5:06 PM
Subject: [NSP] Re: Heads and Tails




I'm a right boob then!

Helen

On 7 Oct 2008, at 16:57, Paul Rhodes wrote:


  Is anybody else out there trying to work out where they are on this
  amazing beast?

  I've decided that I'm the left testicle.

  Paul
__

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References

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