[NSP] Barrington
I've put it on my webpage [1]http://members.lycos.co.uk/adrianschofield/ Under Adrian's playing technique.. Barrington Hornpipe Adrian -- References 1. http://members.lycos.co.uk/adrianschofield/ To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[NSP] Cotes hall
Here is proof that Cotes Hall (Staffordshire), one of Pigg's tunes was actually Cote Walls, near Biddlestone. I can't find any reference to a Cotes Hall, as yet. [1]http://homepage.mac.com/philipdavis/English%20sites/2423.html Adrian -- References 1. http://homepage.mac.com/philipdavis/English%20sites/2423.html To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[NSP] President
Anthony, though I've said that I'm in favour of Colin being proposed as President, there are facts that have come to my attention which have not been disclosed on this forum, which have disquaded me from voting. I think you are rollerballing the proposal of President without giving people time to get the facts, which may disuade/not disquade others from voting. By doing this is, It is fast-tracking the proposal and sweeping away underlying problems re: Ann sessoms post and other problems/potential problems that have/will happen. Please take me off the list, I do not want to vote. Adrian To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[NSP] Re: flawed
Julia, I suggest that if the minutes cannot be catalogued, then the meeting should be suspended. Again another failing within the commitee. Adrian To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[NSP] Re: Colin Ross
I would certainly vote for Colin to be president even though I don't agree with some of the things he says or does. I hope he gets on the mend soon too. I certainly don't want some politition to be the President and I will not accept any cups or medals off her. If not Colin then how about Dianna Blackett-Ord, Rowland Lofthouse or Pauline Cato?-some young blood would be nice for a change. Adrian To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[NSP] nps
I seem to remember a certain well known piper who entered an open competition playing a simple chanter and won it. Running notes in is rubbish, choyting is rubbish and I would rather see the pipes die out if certain pipers, who are promoting this and who cannot play, are pulling the wool over listeners ears by showing the world that their playing is the way to go forward. Adrian -- To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[NSP] nps
Dear all, after talking to Tommy Breckons shorltly before his death and chatting to fellow pipers after his funeral, I have come to the conclusion that the Northumbrian Pipers' society has lost its way. I therefore ask: is it time to form some other group or society which bases its playing on a pure, traditional detached fingering technique and get back to playing some of the tunes with divisions,correctly? After all, in 1974, the 3rd addition of the 'Tutor for the Northumbrian Small-Pipes' was re-published by the NPS. Originally published in 1896, this tutor was written by JW Fenwick, a member of the committee. The preface to the 3rd edition states-Fenwick's tutor is as relevant today as it was in 1895 and will provide ample instruction and guidance to all potential playersof the small-pipes. The instruction book states - There is no qualification more important to the learner than that of correct fingering, and as it presents considerable difficulty, the lessons of a skilful master would be a great advantage. As a general direction we may observe that the small-pipes are played upon the method called 'Close Fingering' which allows of only one finger being lifted at a time. Perhaps have a new piping competition, which is based on pure fingering and not a load of choyte. Adrian. (not a Grand Master, nor a member of that other society!) -- To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[NSP] billy pigg
also, I forgot to mention that Tom Clough's method of playing was too hard for me to grasp at that time so I opted for Billy Pigg as I found it easier to learn. Billy Pigg was used as a big stepping stone. So, thanks to Billy Pigg, as I would not be playing in the method that I do today. Adrian To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[NSP] Billy Pigg
Hello all, Billy Pigg did choyt. When I was learning the nsp is the late 1970's / early1980's there were not too many players which I liked the playing of. I plumped for Billy Pigg because he was marketed as being a legend; although Tom Clough was The Prince of Pipers, there was not enough of him to listen to. The other players seemed to have no gusto in their playing. My method of playing has changed. I use to choyte, grace a lot and use vibrato. The first has vanished altogether, I use gracing sparingly as with vibrato. Although Billy was my mainstay to piping, I've moved on to Clough, although his timing was not that accurate, his detatched fingering was the tightest I'd heard early in the beginning. Adrian To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[NSP] Rothbury
Hmmm, is it not time for the NPS to have a meeting with the Rothbury committee? I certainly do not agree with tunes only being played once through, unless it's a variation set. The problem could arise that someone who breaks the rules,wins and the one who hasn't broken the rules goes off to the Rothbury committee to report the Judge. Adrian -- To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[NSP] rules
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[NSP] Re: Yes Adrian,
- Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: what.me [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, May 19, 2006 1:40 PM Subject: Yes Adrian, I am. I have played the pipes since 1980 and have only been told by Colin Ross and Kathryn Tickell whenever I strayed from the narrow path to salvation. There is no proper way. Since we are all musicians, we try to express ourselves through music. Do you really think there should be rules to restrict our expressions? Are there rules for jazz, classical music or any other art form? I'd rather break a few rules than observe them. T.R.Andersen Dear T.R Anderson you are talking about styles of music, I and Mr Fenwick are talking about the method of fingering. We can all express ourselves by playing the small-pipes the correct way. It is a shame that the true way may be lost, due to the ignorance of others. Adrian To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[NSP] Re: staccato
- Original Message - From: Dave Singleton [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: what.me [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2006 7:39 AM Subject: Re: [NSP] staccato Hi Adrian, We will never know, but don't miss the point, when the chanter got closed, BOTH legato and staccato could be played with ease, and to good effect. And as we all know if you have the possibility, and you don't have to, it's a challenge not to. I agree that staccato should come first, otherwise the musculature never gets trained for staccato playing, after you can play staccato, why would one play a lullaby that sounds like machine gun fire ? --- oh yea --- keep the little b*gger awake until midnight then it'll sleep right through --- must tell my brother in law about that one !! I would love to be able to play à les pois qui tombent and at the requisite speed of the melodies, but it ain't gonna happen, I don't have the dedication to practise every day or the capability to memorize tunes, I need the dots. But I agree with the primitive urges, all for them in fact -- but keep off my end -- it is staying firmly on the end of my whatsit, along with all those metally thingies up and down the black doodah, Dave Hello Dave, if you notice, when playing legato, there is an unpleasant sound of wafting air. I dare say that there is a lot of turbulance as one finger is placed on a hole and the next finger is lifted, especially if it is the hole adjacent to it. I can't condone this, as it sounds like a slow punture from an inner tube. Adrian To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[NSP] staccato
Hi all, I dare say they were legato and staccato; who knows whether they had closed end or for some players, open ended chanters in those days? And remember, it was music 'adapted' for the small-pipes. There are tunes that should have c# 's in the book, but c's are played instead 'cause they didn't have c# keys or any other keys. Perhaps the small-pipes were played open fingered and then closed fingered or both. It would seem that, until recently, they were played staccato, exept for those who couldn't do it. But now the trend seems to be, maybe, going backwards. Perhaps the stopped end can be taken off again and the keys too. Lets get back to the primitive urges. Oh dear, we'll just have Scottish small-pipes in the key of E. Adrian -- To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[NSP] nps detached
A question, or two: I take it that most of those on this list are members of the NPS too? And if you are members, then, is not one of the qualifications of being a member to promote the pipes and accept that the NPS have some say as to what are the small-pipes and how the Small-pipes should be played? Then please could I have a definative answer from the NSP as to what method of fingering the chanter is acceptable when playing in the NSP competitions. In other words, does one have to play 'detached' or can one play by 'running in the notes together without a gap? Would one get marked down/disqualified/encouraged to play 'detached'? What about the Judges who may accept non-detached fingering? As Mr Fenwick was a representitive of the NSP then I would guess that what he wrote in the tutor was and is still correct today, as I've not seen any other publication by the NSP as to contradict this. Adrian. -- To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
