[NSP] Re: Where hast though been all the night?
On Thu, Nov 4, 2010 at 6:28 PM, Anthony Robb [1]anth...@robbpipes.com wrote: . would it be even more wonderful if some clever person (I think all three of you have the skills) to put it all done as a living piece of music somewhere for all to hear? Anthony Thanks to Anthony's generosity, recording equipment, and patience I now have an audio of my version of Where Hast Thou Been All The Night. It is housed for the moment on my band's myspace site [2]myspace.com/mattseattleband where it is the last track in the 'music box', you may have to scroll down to find and hear it. Cheers Matt -- References 1. mailto:anth...@robbpipes.com 2. http://myspace.com/mattseattleband To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[NSP] Re: Where hast though been all the night?
Erratum: line 4 in the tune I just sent should end dgf d2 not dGb c2 - sorry! So try again - X:1 T:Where hast thou been all the night? M:6/8 R: Air K:G e|d/c/B/A/B/G/ Bcd|dgB c2e|d/c/B/A/B/G/ Bcd|dgf d2:| e|dgf dgB|dgB c2e|dgf dgB|dgf d2 e|dgf dgB|dgB c2e|d/c/B/A/B/G/ Bcd|dgf d2|| e|dB/c/d/B/ gB/c/d/B/|dB/c/d/B/ c2e|dB/c/d/B/ gB/c/d/B/|dgf d2 e|dB/c/d/B/ gB/c/d/B/|dB/c/d/B/ c2e|d/c/B/A/B/G/ Bcd|dgf d2|| e|d/c/B/c/d/e/ d/c/B/c/d/B/|d/c/B/c/d/B/ c2 e|d/c/B/c/d/e/ d/c/B/c/d/B/|dgf d2 e|d/c/B/c/d/e/ d/c/B/c/d/B/|d/c/B/c/d/B/ c2 e|d/c/B/A/B/G/ Bcd|dgf d2|| e|dcB dcB|dGB c2e|dcB dcB|Ggf d2 e|dcB dcB|dGB c2e|d/c/B/A/B/G/ Bcd|dgf d2|| From: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] On Behalf Of Gibbons, John [j.gibb...@imperial.ac.uk] Sent: 04 November 2010 11:57 To: 'NSP group' Subject: [NSP] Re: Tune hunt: OT but I hope interesting! Dear All, Here's a collage of the Reavely and Crawhall versions of 'Where have you been?', which we were discussing, with 5 strains - using Reavely's first 3 strains and continuing using patterns from Crawhall's 4th and 5th, which were inconsistent with Reavely as they stand. A more experienced editor composer might do better? It doesn't want to go much faster than 'Noble Squire Dacre' - think the words 'Randal my son?' in bar 2 of each strain Strain 5 works if you play the d's short. I would probably play strain 1 over again at the end. The tune certainly needs to be played more widely. John X:1 T:Where hast thou been all the night? M:6/8 R: Air K:G e|d/c/B/A/B/G/ Bcd|dgB c2e|d/c/B/A/B/G/ Bcd|dgf d2:| e|dgf dgB|dgB c2e|dgf dgB|dgf d2 e|dgf dgB|dgB c2e|d/c/B/A/B/G/ Bcd|dgf d2|| e|dB/c/d/B/ gB/c/d/B/|dB/c/d/B/ c2e|dB/c/d/B/ gB/c/d/B/|dgB c2 e|dB/c/d/B/ gB/c/d/B/|dB/c/d/B/ c2e|d/c/B/A/B/G/ Bcd|dgf d2|| e|d/c/B/c/d/e/ d/c/B/c/d/B/|d/c/B/c/d/B/ c2 e|d/c/B/c/d/e/ d/c/B/c/d/B/|dgf d2 e|d/c/B/c/d/e/ d/c/B/c/d/B/|d/c/B/c/d/B/ c2 e|d/c/B/A/B/G/ Bcd|dgf d2|| e|dcB dcB|dGB c2e|dcB dcB|Ggf d2 e|dcB dcB|dGB c2e|d/c/B/A/B/G/ Bcd|dgf d2|| From: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] On Behalf Of Paul Gretton [i...@gretton-willems.com] Sent: 02 November 2010 10:25 To: 'Matt Seattle' Cc: 'NSP group' Subject: [NSP] Re: Tune hunt: OT but I hope interesting! I haven't really been following this discussion but perhaps it's worth pointing out that parody can have the formal musical sense of incorporating music from one genre into another, or basing a piece on another piece. Used in that way, it doesn’t have to imply guying or spoofing the original. The clearest examples are the polyphonic parody masses of the Renaissance that are based on folk songs. The most popular tune was L'homme armé, which generated literally dozens of glorious parody masses in the 15th and 16th centuries by major composers like Dufay, Ockeghem and Josquin. Cheers, Paul Gretton -Original Message- From: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] On Behalf Of Matt Seattle Sent: 02 November 2010 10:58 To: Gibbons, John Cc: Richard York; NSP group Subject: [NSP] Re: Tune hunt: OT but I hope interesting! I see why you prefer the 3-strain Reavely version as more consistent, but the Crawhall strain 4 is worth having - perhaps better if tweaked to fit the others from Reavely. I should have another look in that case, thanks. I have been thinking about this, and Lord Randal, since the discussion started. The tune is obviously a good fit to the metre, but if this is right, then the tune is to be played andante, not as a jig. Yes, I think that thee 6/8 variation sets (in Peacock et al) are not (dance) jigs, though often based on them - e.g. Felton Lonnen, which exists in both forms. The idea of Billy Boy as a parody of Lord Randal had never occurred to me, but the worried mum and the emphasis on the girlfriend's culinary abilities are common to both. I think it was Bronson's (Trad Tunes of the Child Ballads) book which alerted me to this. I had it on loan so I can't check it now, but IIRC he said that the two songs (or versions of them) were of comparable age, and I got more the feeling of 'counterpart' than 'parody' from what he was saying. -- To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[NSP] Re: Where hast though been all the night?
On 4 Nov 2010, Gibbons, John wrote: Erratum: line 4 in the tune I just sent should end dgf d2 and I think in bar 2 of the last line, currently: e|dcB dcB|dGB c2e|d/c/B/A/B/G/ Bcd|dgf d2|| should possibly be: dgB c2e| To me it looks as if strains 3 4 could be reversed (look at bar 4 in each strain) to maintain an AB pattern, and of course there is a missing B strain at the end. Given the superficial similarity to bits of Newmarket Races it would be tempting to make a 6th part: e/f/|g/f/e/f/g/e/ d/c/B/c/d/B/|g/f/e/f/g/e/ c2 e|\ g/f/e/f/g/e/ d/c/B/c/d/B/|dgf d2 e/f/|\ g/f/e/f/g/e/ d/c/B/c/d/B/|g/f/e/f/g/e/ c2 e|\ d/c/B/A/B/G/ Bcd|dgf d2|| although I haven't tried this (yet). In haste Julia To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[NSP] Re: Where hast though been all the night?
Some time ago I had a go at this too, before I saw the Crawhall set. I'll look it up. On Thu, Nov 4, 2010 at 1:29 PM, Julia Say [1]julia@nspipes.co.uk wrote: On 4 Nov 2010, Gibbons, John wrote: Erratum: line 4 in the tune I just sent should end dgf d2 and I think in bar 2 of the last line, currently: e|dcB dcB|dGB c2e|d/c/B/A/B/G/ Bcd|dgf d2|| should possibly be: dgB c2e| To me it looks as if strains 3 4 could be reversed (look at bar 4 in each strain) to maintain an AB pattern, and of course there is a missing B strain at the end. Given the superficial similarity to bits of Newmarket Races it would be tempting to make a 6th part: e/f/|g/f/e/f/g/e/ d/c/B/c/d/B/|g/f/e/f/g/e/ c2 e|\ g/f/e/f/g/e/ d/c/B/c/d/B/|dgf d2 e/f/|\ g/f/e/f/g/e/ d/c/B/c/d/B/|g/f/e/f/g/e/ c2 e|\ d/c/B/A/B/G/ Bcd|dgf d2|| although I haven't tried this (yet). In haste Julia To get on or off this list see list information at [2]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html -- References 1. mailto:julia@nspipes.co.uk 2. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[NSP] Re: Where hast though been all the night?
Before you read on - is anyone besides John Gibbons, Julia Say and myself interested in this? Seriously, please say so, I'd like to know, because if not, we can carry on the discussion privately. If anyone thinks the three of us are crazy, I would like to point out that I have been crazy for longer than them. I have refrained from reading Julia's and John's versions till I made mine public. I was very taken with this tune at the time of the second Bewick edition (1998) and used to play it a lot. I am pleased that (two) others also enjoy it. I note that it received zero attention until Richard York's hurdy-gurdy query, which is a sobering thought regarding the benefits of publication. You may need to add line breaks, I have just pasted my text as is. X:1 T:Where Hast Thou Been All The Night? C:R Reavely ms (strs 1-3) C:M Seattle (strs 5-8) Aug 1998 M:6/8 R:Air K:G e|d/c/B/A/B/G/ Bcd|dgB c2e|d/c/B/A/B/G/ Bcd|dgf d2:|] [|:e|dgf dgB|dgB c2e|dgf dgB|dgf d2e| dgf dgB|dgB c2e|d/c/B/A/B/G/ Bcd|dgf d2:|] [|:e|dB/c/d/B/ gB/c/d/B/|dB/c/d/B/ c3/2d/e/c/|dB/c/d/B/ gB/c/d/B/|dgf d2e| dB/c/d/B/ gB/c/d/B/|dB/c/d/B/ c3/2d/e/c/|d/c/B/A/B/G/ Bcd|dgf d2:|] [|:e|dGe/f/ gGB/c/|dGA/B/ c3/2d/e/c/|dGe/f/ gGB/c/|dgf d2e| dGe/f/ gGB/c/|dGA/B/ c3/2d/e/c/|d/c/B/A/B/G/ Bcd|dgf d2:|] [|:e|d/c/B/A/B/G/ B/A/B/c/d/G/|d/c/B/A/B/G/ c/B/c/d/e/G/|d/c/B/A/B/G/ B/A/B/c/d/G/|dgf d2:|] [|:e|d/G/g/G/f/G/ d/e/d/c/B/c/|d/G/g/f/d/B/ c/B/c/d/e/G/|d/G/g/G/f/G/ d/e/d/c/B/c/|d/G/g/f/d/c/ d2e| d/G/g/G/f/G/ d/e/d/c/B/c/|d/G/g/f/d/B/ c/B/c/d/e/G/|d/c/B/A/B/G/ B/A/B/c/d/G/|dgf d2:|] [|:e|d/B/G/B/d/B/ g/B/G/B/d/B/|d/B/G/B/d/B/ cG/c/e/c/|d/B/G/B/d/B/ g/B/G/B/d/B/|dgf d2e| d/B/G/B/d/B/ g/B/G/B/d/B/|d/B/G/B/d/B/ cG/c/e/c/|d/c/B/A/B/G/ B/A/B/c/d/G/|dgf d2:|] [|:e/|d/G/A/B/c/d/ g/f/d/c/B/c/|d/G/A/B/c/d/ =f/e/c/d/e/c/|d/G/A/B/c/d/ g/f/d/c/B/c/|d/G/g/f/d/c/ d2e| d/G/A/B/c/d/ g/f/d/c/B/c/|d/G/A/B/c/d/ =f/e/c/d/e/c/|d/c/B/A/B/G/ B/A/B/c/d/G/|dgf d2:|] -- To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[NSP] Re: Where hast though been all the night?
I second that! Richard - Original Message - From: Dave S david...@pt.lu To: Dartmouth nsp list N.P.S. site nsp@cs.dartmouth.edu Sent: Thursday, November 04, 2010 1:34 PM Subject: [NSP] Re: Where hast though been all the night? Original Message Subject: Re: [NSP] Re: Where hast though been all the night? Date: Thu, 04 Nov 2010 18:33:22 +0100 From: Dave S [1]david...@pt.lu To: Matt Seattle [2]theborderpi...@googlemail.com Hey Matt, carry on for me -- it's well worth the bandwidth, plus we get to see some new works in progress ciao Dave S On 11/4/2010 5:56 PM, Matt Seattle wrote: Before you read on - is anyone besides John Gibbons, Julia Say and myself interested in this? Seriously, please say so, I'd like to know, because if not, we can carry on the discussion privately. If anyone thinks the three of us are crazy, I would like to point out that I have been crazy for longer than them. I have refrained from reading Julia's and John's versions till I made mine public. I was very taken with this tune at the time of the second Bewick edition (1998) and used to play it a lot. I am pleased that (two) others also enjoy it. I note that it received zero attention until Richard York's hurdy-gurdy query, which is a sobering thought regarding the benefits of publication. You may need to add line breaks, I have just pasted my text as is. X:1 T:Where Hast Thou Been All The Night? C:R Reavely ms (strs 1-3) C:M Seattle (strs 5-8) Aug 1998 M:6/8 R:Air K:G e|d/c/B/A/B/G/ Bcd|dgB c2e|d/c/B/A/B/G/ Bcd|dgf d2:|] [|:e|dgf dgB|dgB c2e|dgf dgB|dgf d2e| dgf dgB|dgB c2e|d/c/B/A/B/G/ Bcd|dgf d2:|] [|:e|dB/c/d/B/ gB/c/d/B/|dB/c/d/B/ c3/2d/e/c/|dB/c/d/B/ gB/c/d/B/|dgf d2e| dB/c/d/B/ gB/c/d/B/|dB/c/d/B/ c3/2d/e/c/|d/c/B/A/B/G/ Bcd|dgf d2:|] [|:e|dGe/f/ gGB/c/|dGA/B/ c3/2d/e/c/|dGe/f/ gGB/c/|dgf d2e| dGe/f/ gGB/c/|dGA/B/ c3/2d/e/c/|d/c/B/A/B/G/ Bcd|dgf d2:|] [|:e|d/c/B/A/B/G/ B/A/B/c/d/G/|d/c/B/A/B/G/ c/B/c/d/e/G/|d/c/B/A/B/G/ B/A/B/c/d/G/|dgf d2:|] [|:e|d/G/g/G/f/G/ d/e/d/c/B/c/|d/G/g/f/d/B/ c/B/c/d/e/G/|d/G/g/G/f/G/ d/e/d/c/B/c/|d/G/g/f/d/c/ d2e| d/G/g/G/f/G/ d/e/d/c/B/c/|d/G/g/f/d/B/ c/B/c/d/e/G/|d/c/B/A/B/G/ B/A/B/c/d/G/|dgf d2:|] [|:e|d/B/G/B/d/B/ g/B/G/B/d/B/|d/B/G/B/d/B/ cG/c/e/c/|d/B/G/B/d/B/ g/B/G/B/d/B/|dgf d2e| d/B/G/B/d/B/ g/B/G/B/d/B/|d/B/G/B/d/B/ cG/c/e/c/|d/c/B/A/B/G/ B/A/B/c/d/G/|dgf d2:|] [|:e/|d/G/A/B/c/d/ g/f/d/c/B/c/|d/G/A/B/c/d/ =f/e/c/d/e/c/|d/G/A/B/c/d/ g/f/d/c/B/c/|d/G/g/f/d/c/ d2e| d/G/A/B/c/d/ g/f/d/c/B/c/|d/G/A/B/c/d/ =f/e/c/d/e/c/|d/c/B/A/B/G/ B/A/B/c/d/G/|dgf d2:|] -- To get on or off this list see list information at [3]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - [4]www.avg.com Version: 9.0.864 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3236 - Release Date: 11/03/10 20:34:0 0 -- References 1. mailto:david...@pt.lu 2. mailto:theborderpi...@googlemail.com 3. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/%7Ewbc/lute-admin/index.html 4. http://www.avg.com/
[NSP] Re: Where hast though been all the night?
Matt, I don't know, but they should be, as it's a grand tune, of noble ancestry... Reavely's set is fine but a bit short for addicts of long variation sets. This may account for the lack of attention so far. Alan Douglass and I tried playing it dotless in the Calthorpe session last night, so at least one other person knows and likes it enough to learn. Your extension is very fine; many thanks for this. I will have to get used to how it feels under the fingers, but it played through very nicely. It will go well when I've learned it better. The Reavely-Crawhall-Julia-me collaboration sounds ok, but Julia's and my strain isn't quite right yet to my ear. There is a bit of a temptation that Alan and I noticed, to turn it into Newmarket Races, which should be resisted I feel. Keeping the tag bars relatively intact should help with this. The Crawhall material helps a lot, but some of the ideas are so inconsistent you wonder which was the main and which the variant reading, and which is a typo. So my attitude using it has been very much pick and mix. More anon, John From: Matt Seattle [theborderpi...@googlemail.com] Sent: 04 November 2010 16:56 To: julia@nspipes.co.uk Cc: nSP group; Gibbons, John Subject: Re: [NSP] Re: Where hast though been all the night? Before you read on - is anyone besides John Gibbons, Julia Say and myself interested in this? Seriously, please say so, I'd like to know, because if not, we can carry on the discussion privately. If anyone thinks the three of us are crazy, I would like to point out that I have been crazy for longer than them. I have refrained from reading Julia's and John's versions till I made mine public. I was very taken with this tune at the time of the second Bewick edition (1998) and used to play it a lot. I am pleased that (two) others also enjoy it. I note that it received zero attention until Richard York's hurdy-gurdy query, which is a sobering thought regarding the benefits of publication. You may need to add line breaks, I have just pasted my text as is. X:1 T:Where Hast Thou Been All The Night? C:R Reavely ms (strs 1-3) C:M Seattle (strs 5-8) Aug 1998 M:6/8 R:Air K:G e|d/c/B/A/B/G/ Bcd|dgB c2e|d/c/B/A/B/G/ Bcd|dgf d2:|] [|:e|dgf dgB|dgB c2e|dgf dgB|dgf d2e| dgf dgB|dgB c2e|d/c/B/A/B/G/ Bcd|dgf d2:|] [|:e|dB/c/d/B/ gB/c/d/B/|dB/c/d/B/ c3/2d/e/c/|dB/c/d/B/ gB/c/d/B/|dgf d2e| dB/c/d/B/ gB/c/d/B/|dB/c/d/B/ c3/2d/e/c/|d/c/B/A/B/G/ Bcd|dgf d2:|] [|:e|dGe/f/ gGB/c/|dGA/B/ c3/2d/e/c/|dGe/f/ gGB/c/|dgf d2e| dGe/f/ gGB/c/|dGA/B/ c3/2d/e/c/|d/c/B/A/B/G/ Bcd|dgf d2:|] [|:e|d/c/B/A/B/G/ B/A/B/c/d/G/|d/c/B/A/B/G/ c/B/c/d/e/G/|d/c/B/A/B/G/ B/A/B/c/d/G/|dgf d2:|] [|:e|d/G/g/G/f/G/ d/e/d/c/B/c/|d/G/g/f/d/B/ c/B/c/d/e/G/|d/G/g/G/f/G/ d/e/d/c/B/c/|d/G/g/f/d/c/ d2e| d/G/g/G/f/G/ d/e/d/c/B/c/|d/G/g/f/d/B/ c/B/c/d/e/G/|d/c/B/A/B/G/ B/A/B/c/d/G/|dgf d2:|] [|:e|d/B/G/B/d/B/ g/B/G/B/d/B/|d/B/G/B/d/B/ cG/c/e/c/|d/B/G/B/d/B/ g/B/G/B/d/B/|dgf d2e| d/B/G/B/d/B/ g/B/G/B/d/B/|d/B/G/B/d/B/ cG/c/e/c/|d/c/B/A/B/G/ B/A/B/c/d/G/|dgf d2:|] [|:e/|d/G/A/B/c/d/ g/f/d/c/B/c/|d/G/A/B/c/d/ =f/e/c/d/e/c/|d/G/A/B/c/d/ g/f/d/c/B/c/|d/G/g/f/d/c/ d2e| d/G/A/B/c/d/ g/f/d/c/B/c/|d/G/A/B/c/d/ =f/e/c/d/e/c/|d/c/B/A/B/G/ B/A/B/c/d/G/|dgf d2:|] To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[NSP] Re: Where hast though been all the night?
Me too! And while between the day job taking up silly hours, and workmen knocking the house about, I haven't had time to more than gloss any of this last part, yes please - go on. I look forward to getting time, and a lack of thunderous hammering, to play this material this w/e - on pipes I promise! - and it's fascinating. And I'm most grateful for the addition to the Gurdy repertoire!! Thank you. Richard. On 04/11/2010 18:01, Richard Shuttleworth wrote: I second that! Richard - Original Message - From: Dave S david...@pt.lu To: Dartmouth nsp list N.P.S. site nsp@cs.dartmouth.edu Sent: Thursday, November 04, 2010 1:34 PM Subject: [NSP] Re: Where hast though been all the night? Original Message Subject: Re: [NSP] Re: Where hast though been all the night? Date: Thu, 04 Nov 2010 18:33:22 +0100 From: Dave S [1]david...@pt.lu To: Matt Seattle [2]theborderpi...@googlemail.com Hey Matt, carry on for me -- it's well worth the bandwidth, plus we get to see some new works in progress ciao Dave S On 11/4/2010 5:56 PM, Matt Seattle wrote: Before you read on - is anyone besides John Gibbons, Julia Say and myself interested in this? Seriously, please say so, I'd like to know, because if not, we can carry on the discussion privately. If anyone thinks the three of us are crazy, I would like to point out that I have been crazy for longer than them. I have refrained from reading Julia's and John's versions till I made mine public. I was very taken with this tune at the time of the second Bewick edition (1998) and used to play it a lot. I am pleased that (two) others also enjoy it. I note that it received zero attention until Richard York's hurdy-gurdy query, which is a sobering thought regarding the benefits of publication. You may need to add line breaks, I have just pasted my text as is. X:1 T:Where Hast Thou Been All The Night? C:R Reavely ms (strs 1-3) C:M Seattle (strs 5-8) Aug 1998 M:6/8 R:Air K:G e|d/c/B/A/B/G/ Bcd|dgB c2e|d/c/B/A/B/G/ Bcd|dgf d2:|] [|:e|dgf dgB|dgB c2e|dgf dgB|dgf d2e| dgf dgB|dgB c2e|d/c/B/A/B/G/ Bcd|dgf d2:|] [|:e|dB/c/d/B/ gB/c/d/B/|dB/c/d/B/ c3/2d/e/c/|dB/c/d/B/ gB/c/d/B/|dgf d2e| dB/c/d/B/ gB/c/d/B/|dB/c/d/B/ c3/2d/e/c/|d/c/B/A/B/G/ Bcd|dgf d2:|] [|:e|dGe/f/ gGB/c/|dGA/B/ c3/2d/e/c/|dGe/f/ gGB/c/|dgf d2e| dGe/f/ gGB/c/|dGA/B/ c3/2d/e/c/|d/c/B/A/B/G/ Bcd|dgf d2:|] [|:e|d/c/B/A/B/G/ B/A/B/c/d/G/|d/c/B/A/B/G/ c/B/c/d/e/G/|d/c/B/A/B/G/ B/A/B/c/d/G/|dgf d2:|] [|:e|d/G/g/G/f/G/ d/e/d/c/B/c/|d/G/g/f/d/B/ c/B/c/d/e/G/|d/G/g/G/f/G/ d/e/d/c/B/c/|d/G/g/f/d/c/ d2e| d/G/g/G/f/G/ d/e/d/c/B/c/|d/G/g/f/d/B/ c/B/c/d/e/G/|d/c/B/A/B/G/ B/A/B/c/d/G/|dgf d2:|] [|:e|d/B/G/B/d/B/ g/B/G/B/d/B/|d/B/G/B/d/B/ cG/c/e/c/|d/B/G/B/d/B/ g/B/G/B/d/B/|dgf d2e| d/B/G/B/d/B/ g/B/G/B/d/B/|d/B/G/B/d/B/ cG/c/e/c/|d/c/B/A/B/G/ B/A/B/c/d/G/|dgf d2:|] [|:e/|d/G/A/B/c/d/ g/f/d/c/B/c/|d/G/A/B/c/d/ =f/e/c/d/e/c/|d/G/A/B/c/d/ g/f/d/c/B/c/|d/G/g/f/d/c/ d2e| d/G/A/B/c/d/ g/f/d/c/B/c/|d/G/A/B/c/d/ =f/e/c/d/e/c/|d/c/B/A/B/G/ B/A/B/c/d/G/|dgf d2:|] -- To get on or off this list see list information at [3]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - [4]www.avg.com Version: 9.0.864 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3236 - Release Date: 11/03/10 20:34:0 0 -- References 1. mailto:david...@pt.lu 2. mailto:theborderpi...@googlemail.com 3. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/%7Ewbc/lute-admin/index.html 4. http://www.avg.com/
[NSP] Re: Where hast though been all the night?
Give it a go on the gurdy too -
It will be interesting to know if this could have been the tune you asked about.
Does it lie as well under the fingers on a hurdy-gurdy as on NSP?
John
From: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] On Behalf Of
Richard York [rich...@lizards.force9.co.uk]
Sent: 04 November 2010 18:42
To: NSP group
Subject: [NSP] Re: Where hast though been all the night?
Me too!
And while between the day job taking up silly hours, and workmen
knocking the house about, I haven't had time to more than gloss any of
this last part, yes please - go on.
I look forward to getting time, and a lack of thunderous hammering, to
play this material this w/e - on pipes I promise! - and it's fascinating.
And I'm most grateful for the addition to the Gurdy repertoire!!
Thank you.
Richard.
On 04/11/2010 18:01, Richard Shuttleworth wrote:
I second that!
Richard
- Original Message - From: Dave S david...@pt.lu
To: Dartmouth nsp list N.P.S. site nsp@cs.dartmouth.edu
Sent: Thursday, November 04, 2010 1:34 PM
Subject: [NSP] Re: Where hast though been all the night?
Original Message
Subject: Re: [NSP] Re: Where hast though been all the night?
Date: Thu, 04 Nov 2010 18:33:22 +0100
From: Dave S [1]david...@pt.lu
To: Matt Seattle [2]theborderpi...@googlemail.com
Hey Matt,
carry on for me -- it's well worth the bandwidth, plus we get to see
some new works in progress
ciao
Dave S
On 11/4/2010 5:56 PM, Matt Seattle wrote:
Before you read on - is anyone besides John Gibbons, Julia Say and
myself interested in this? Seriously, please say so, I'd like to know,
because if not, we can carry on the discussion privately.
If anyone thinks the three of us are crazy, I would like to point out
that I have been crazy for longer than them.
I have refrained from reading Julia's and John's versions till I made
mine public. I was very taken with this tune at the time of the second
Bewick edition (1998) and used to play it a lot. I am pleased that
(two) others also enjoy it. I note that it received zero attention
until Richard York's hurdy-gurdy query, which is a sobering thought
regarding the benefits of publication.
You may need to add line breaks, I have just pasted my text as is.
X:1
T:Where Hast Thou Been All The Night?
C:R Reavely ms (strs 1-3)
C:M Seattle (strs 5-8) Aug 1998
M:6/8
R:Air
K:G
e|d/c/B/A/B/G/ Bcd|dgB c2e|d/c/B/A/B/G/ Bcd|dgf d2:|]
[|:e|dgf dgB|dgB c2e|dgf dgB|dgf d2e|
dgf dgB|dgB c2e|d/c/B/A/B/G/ Bcd|dgf d2:|]
[|:e|dB/c/d/B/ gB/c/d/B/|dB/c/d/B/ c3/2d/e/c/|dB/c/d/B/ gB/c/d/B/|dgf
d2e|
dB/c/d/B/ gB/c/d/B/|dB/c/d/B/ c3/2d/e/c/|d/c/B/A/B/G/ Bcd|dgf d2:|]
[|:e|dGe/f/ gGB/c/|dGA/B/ c3/2d/e/c/|dGe/f/ gGB/c/|dgf d2e|
dGe/f/ gGB/c/|dGA/B/ c3/2d/e/c/|d/c/B/A/B/G/ Bcd|dgf d2:|]
[|:e|d/c/B/A/B/G/ B/A/B/c/d/G/|d/c/B/A/B/G/ c/B/c/d/e/G/|d/c/B/A/B/G/
B/A/B/c/d/G/|dgf d2:|]
[|:e|d/G/g/G/f/G/ d/e/d/c/B/c/|d/G/g/f/d/B/ c/B/c/d/e/G/|d/G/g/G/f/G/
d/e/d/c/B/c/|d/G/g/f/d/c/ d2e|
d/G/g/G/f/G/ d/e/d/c/B/c/|d/G/g/f/d/B/ c/B/c/d/e/G/|d/c/B/A/B/G/
B/A/B/c/d/G/|dgf d2:|]
[|:e|d/B/G/B/d/B/ g/B/G/B/d/B/|d/B/G/B/d/B/ cG/c/e/c/|d/B/G/B/d/B/
g/B/G/B/d/B/|dgf d2e|
d/B/G/B/d/B/ g/B/G/B/d/B/|d/B/G/B/d/B/ cG/c/e/c/|d/c/B/A/B/G/
B/A/B/c/d/G/|dgf d2:|]
[|:e/|d/G/A/B/c/d/ g/f/d/c/B/c/|d/G/A/B/c/d/
=f/e/c/d/e/c/|d/G/A/B/c/d/
g/f/d/c/B/c/|d/G/g/f/d/c/ d2e|
d/G/A/B/c/d/ g/f/d/c/B/c/|d/G/A/B/c/d/ =f/e/c/d/e/c/|d/c/B/A/B/G/
B/A/B/c/d/G/|dgf d2:|]
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[NSP] Re: Where hast though been all the night?
I will, and will let you know.
Not tonight though, sorry - 4.45 a.m. up this morning to drive to work
and a long day ... I'm off to bed next!
Richard.
On 04/11/2010 19:58, Gibbons, John wrote:
Give it a go on the gurdy too -
It will be interesting to know if this could have been the tune you asked about.
Does it lie as well under the fingers on a hurdy-gurdy as on NSP?
John
From: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] On Behalf Of
Richard York [rich...@lizards.force9.co.uk]
Sent: 04 November 2010 18:42
To: NSP group
Subject: [NSP] Re: Where hast though been all the night?
Me too!
And while between the day job taking up silly hours, and workmen
knocking the house about, I haven't had time to more than gloss any of
this last part, yes please - go on.
I look forward to getting time, and a lack of thunderous hammering, to
play this material this w/e - on pipes I promise! - and it's fascinating.
And I'm most grateful for the addition to the Gurdy repertoire!!
Thank you.
Richard.
On 04/11/2010 18:01, Richard Shuttleworth wrote:
I second that!
Richard
- Original Message - From: Dave Sdavid...@pt.lu
To: Dartmouth nsp list N.P.S. sitensp@cs.dartmouth.edu
Sent: Thursday, November 04, 2010 1:34 PM
Subject: [NSP] Re: Where hast though been all the night?
Original Message
Subject: Re: [NSP] Re: Where hast though been all the night?
Date: Thu, 04 Nov 2010 18:33:22 +0100
From: Dave S [1]david...@pt.lu
To: Matt Seattle [2]theborderpi...@googlemail.com
Hey Matt,
carry on for me -- it's well worth the bandwidth, plus we get to see
some new works in progress
ciao
Dave S
On 11/4/2010 5:56 PM, Matt Seattle wrote:
Before you read on - is anyone besides John Gibbons, Julia Say and
myself interested in this? Seriously, please say so, I'd like to know,
because if not, we can carry on the discussion privately.
If anyone thinks the three of us are crazy, I would like to point out
that I have been crazy for longer than them.
I have refrained from reading Julia's and John's versions till I made
mine public. I was very taken with this tune at the time of the second
Bewick edition (1998) and used to play it a lot. I am pleased that
(two) others also enjoy it. I note that it received zero attention
until Richard York's hurdy-gurdy query, which is a sobering thought
regarding the benefits of publication.
You may need to add line breaks, I have just pasted my text as is.
X:1
T:Where Hast Thou Been All The Night?
C:R Reavely ms (strs 1-3)
C:M Seattle (strs 5-8) Aug 1998
M:6/8
R:Air
K:G
e|d/c/B/A/B/G/ Bcd|dgB c2e|d/c/B/A/B/G/ Bcd|dgf d2:|]
[|:e|dgf dgB|dgB c2e|dgf dgB|dgf d2e|
dgf dgB|dgB c2e|d/c/B/A/B/G/ Bcd|dgf d2:|]
[|:e|dB/c/d/B/ gB/c/d/B/|dB/c/d/B/ c3/2d/e/c/|dB/c/d/B/ gB/c/d/B/|dgf
d2e|
dB/c/d/B/ gB/c/d/B/|dB/c/d/B/ c3/2d/e/c/|d/c/B/A/B/G/ Bcd|dgf d2:|]
[|:e|dGe/f/ gGB/c/|dGA/B/ c3/2d/e/c/|dGe/f/ gGB/c/|dgf d2e|
dGe/f/ gGB/c/|dGA/B/ c3/2d/e/c/|d/c/B/A/B/G/ Bcd|dgf d2:|]
[|:e|d/c/B/A/B/G/ B/A/B/c/d/G/|d/c/B/A/B/G/ c/B/c/d/e/G/|d/c/B/A/B/G/
B/A/B/c/d/G/|dgf d2:|]
[|:e|d/G/g/G/f/G/ d/e/d/c/B/c/|d/G/g/f/d/B/ c/B/c/d/e/G/|d/G/g/G/f/G/
d/e/d/c/B/c/|d/G/g/f/d/c/ d2e|
d/G/g/G/f/G/ d/e/d/c/B/c/|d/G/g/f/d/B/ c/B/c/d/e/G/|d/c/B/A/B/G/
B/A/B/c/d/G/|dgf d2:|]
[|:e|d/B/G/B/d/B/ g/B/G/B/d/B/|d/B/G/B/d/B/ cG/c/e/c/|d/B/G/B/d/B/
g/B/G/B/d/B/|dgf d2e|
d/B/G/B/d/B/ g/B/G/B/d/B/|d/B/G/B/d/B/ cG/c/e/c/|d/c/B/A/B/G/
B/A/B/c/d/G/|dgf d2:|]
[|:e/|d/G/A/B/c/d/ g/f/d/c/B/c/|d/G/A/B/c/d/
=f/e/c/d/e/c/|d/G/A/B/c/d/
g/f/d/c/B/c/|d/G/g/f/d/c/ d2e|
d/G/A/B/c/d/ g/f/d/c/B/c/|d/G/A/B/c/d/ =f/e/c/d/e/c/|d/c/B/A/B/G/
B/A/B/c/d/G/|dgf d2:|]
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[NSP] Re: Where hast though been all the night?
On 4 Nov 2010, Matt Seattle wrote: If anyone thinks the three of us are crazy, I would like to point out that I have been crazy for longer than them. 1994, I think in my case, but I came to that point with a pre-disposition, I suspect. I note that it received zero attention until Richard York's hurdy-gurdy query, which is a sobering thought regarding the benefits of publication. But all a tune needs is one person to take up its cause and interest will spread. If we help to put the tunes out there, someone may, just may, get adopted by them. Julia (with crazy head on) To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[NSP] Re: Where hast though been all the night?
With me, the addiction only in the severe writing form since I got some NSP in 97 - but I'd been a Peacock addict since Cut and Dry Dolly came out in the 70's, and I bought the facsimile edition which I treasure to this day. Writing set in once I realised Peacock, Bewick and Clough had slowed down of late. Once FARNE let me do comparative playthroughs of different versions, I started collaging to assemble versions with all the good bits in, and before too long I'd got hooked. John -- To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[NSP] Re: Where hast though been all the night?
My vote is that such conversations continue in front of the whole group. If anyone is uninterested, it takes only a moment to click next. And there are a lot of lurkers out here who are silent but interested, and are grateful for being allowed to eavesdrop on informed discussions. Thx, Alec In a message dated 11/4/2010 9:58:25 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, theborderpi...@googlemail.com writes: Before you read on - is anyone besides John Gibbons, Julia Say and myself interested in this? Seriously, please say so, I'd like to know, because if not, we can carry on the discussion privately. If anyone thinks the three of us are crazy, I would like to point out that I have been crazy for longer than them. I have refrained from reading Julia's and John's versions till I made mine public. I was very taken with this tune at the time of the second Bewick edition (1998) and used to play it a lot. I am pleased that (two) others also enjoy it. I note that it received zero attention until Richard York's hurdy-gurdy query, which is a sobering thought regarding the benefits of publication. You may need to add line breaks, I have just pasted my text as is. X:1 T:Where Hast Thou Been All The Night? C:R Reavely ms (strs 1-3) C:M Seattle (strs 5-8) Aug 1998 M:6/8 R:Air K:G e|d/c/B/A/B/G/ Bcd|dgB c2e|d/c/B/A/B/G/ Bcd|dgf d2:|] [|:e|dgf dgB|dgB c2e|dgf dgB|dgf d2e| dgf dgB|dgB c2e|d/c/B/A/B/G/ Bcd|dgf d2:|] [|:e|dB/c/d/B/ gB/c/d/B/|dB/c/d/B/ c3/2d/e/c/|dB/c/d/B/ gB/c/d/B/|dgf d2e| dB/c/d/B/ gB/c/d/B/|dB/c/d/B/ c3/2d/e/c/|d/c/B/A/B/G/ Bcd|dgf d2:|] [|:e|dGe/f/ gGB/c/|dGA/B/ c3/2d/e/c/|dGe/f/ gGB/c/|dgf d2e| dGe/f/ gGB/c/|dGA/B/ c3/2d/e/c/|d/c/B/A/B/G/ Bcd|dgf d2:|] [|:e|d/c/B/A/B/G/ B/A/B/c/d/G/|d/c/B/A/B/G/ c/B/c/d/e/G/|d/c/B/A/B/G/ B/A/B/c/d/G/|dgf d2:|] [|:e|d/G/g/G/f/G/ d/e/d/c/B/c/|d/G/g/f/d/B/ c/B/c/d/e/G/|d/G/g/G/f/G/ d/e/d/c/B/c/|d/G/g/f/d/c/ d2e| d/G/g/G/f/G/ d/e/d/c/B/c/|d/G/g/f/d/B/ c/B/c/d/e/G/|d/c/B/A/B/G/ B/A/B/c/d/G/|dgf d2:|] [|:e|d/B/G/B/d/B/ g/B/G/B/d/B/|d/B/G/B/d/B/ cG/c/e/c/|d/B/G/B/d/B/ g/B/G/B/d/B/|dgf d2e| d/B/G/B/d/B/ g/B/G/B/d/B/|d/B/G/B/d/B/ cG/c/e/c/|d/c/B/A/B/G/ B/A/B/c/d/G/|dgf d2:|] [|:e/|d/G/A/B/c/d/ g/f/d/c/B/c/|d/G/A/B/c/d/ =f/e/c/d/e/c/|d/G/A/B/c/d/ g/f/d/c/B/c/|d/G/g/f/d/c/ d2e| d/G/A/B/c/d/ g/f/d/c/B/c/|d/G/A/B/c/d/ =f/e/c/d/e/c/|d/c/B/A/B/G/ B/A/B/c/d/G/|dgf d2:|] -- To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html --
[NSP] Re: Where hast though been all the night?
Totally agree. Information is great to have even if we don't act on it (yet). Please continue. Colin Hill - Original Message - From: cal...@aol.com To: theborderpi...@googlemail.com; nsp@cs.dartmouth.edu Sent: Thursday, November 04, 2010 11:43 PM Subject: [NSP] Re: Where hast though been all the night? My vote is that such conversations continue in front of the whole group. If anyone is uninterested, it takes only a moment to click next. And there are a lot of lurkers out here who are silent but interested, and are grateful for being allowed to eavesdrop on informed discussions. Thx, Alec In a message dated 11/4/2010 9:58:25 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, theborderpi...@googlemail.com writes: Before you read on - is anyone besides John Gibbons, Julia Say and myself interested in this? Seriously, please say so, I'd like to know, because if not, we can carry on the discussion privately. If anyone thinks the three of us are crazy, I would like to point out that I have been crazy for longer than them. I have refrained from reading Julia's and John's versions till I made mine public. I was very taken with this tune at the time of the second Bewick edition (1998) and used to play it a lot. I am pleased that (two) others also enjoy it. I note that it received zero attention until Richard York's hurdy-gurdy query, which is a sobering thought regarding the benefits of publication. You may need to add line breaks, I have just pasted my text as is. X:1 T:Where Hast Thou Been All The Night? C:R Reavely ms (strs 1-3) C:M Seattle (strs 5-8) Aug 1998 M:6/8 R:Air K:G e|d/c/B/A/B/G/ Bcd|dgB c2e|d/c/B/A/B/G/ Bcd|dgf d2:|] [|:e|dgf dgB|dgB c2e|dgf dgB|dgf d2e| dgf dgB|dgB c2e|d/c/B/A/B/G/ Bcd|dgf d2:|] [|:e|dB/c/d/B/ gB/c/d/B/|dB/c/d/B/ c3/2d/e/c/|dB/c/d/B/ gB/c/d/B/|dgf d2e| dB/c/d/B/ gB/c/d/B/|dB/c/d/B/ c3/2d/e/c/|d/c/B/A/B/G/ Bcd|dgf d2:|] [|:e|dGe/f/ gGB/c/|dGA/B/ c3/2d/e/c/|dGe/f/ gGB/c/|dgf d2e| dGe/f/ gGB/c/|dGA/B/ c3/2d/e/c/|d/c/B/A/B/G/ Bcd|dgf d2:|] [|:e|d/c/B/A/B/G/ B/A/B/c/d/G/|d/c/B/A/B/G/ c/B/c/d/e/G/|d/c/B/A/B/G/ B/A/B/c/d/G/|dgf d2:|] [|:e|d/G/g/G/f/G/ d/e/d/c/B/c/|d/G/g/f/d/B/ c/B/c/d/e/G/|d/G/g/G/f/G/ d/e/d/c/B/c/|d/G/g/f/d/c/ d2e| d/G/g/G/f/G/ d/e/d/c/B/c/|d/G/g/f/d/B/ c/B/c/d/e/G/|d/c/B/A/B/G/ B/A/B/c/d/G/|dgf d2:|] [|:e|d/B/G/B/d/B/ g/B/G/B/d/B/|d/B/G/B/d/B/ cG/c/e/c/|d/B/G/B/d/B/ g/B/G/B/d/B/|dgf d2e| d/B/G/B/d/B/ g/B/G/B/d/B/|d/B/G/B/d/B/ cG/c/e/c/|d/c/B/A/B/G/ B/A/B/c/d/G/|dgf d2:|] [|:e/|d/G/A/B/c/d/ g/f/d/c/B/c/|d/G/A/B/c/d/ =f/e/c/d/e/c/|d/G/A/B/c/d/ g/f/d/c/B/c/|d/G/g/f/d/c/ d2e| d/G/A/B/c/d/ g/f/d/c/B/c/|d/G/A/B/c/d/ =f/e/c/d/e/c/|d/c/B/A/B/G/ B/A/B/c/d/G/|dgf d2:|] -- To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html --
