Re: [NTG-context] New Debian context package based on context release 061207

2006-12-11 Thread Taco Hoekwater


Norbert Preining wrote:
 Hi Aditya!
 
 On Son, 10 Dez 2006, Aditya Mahajan wrote:
 
This is a simple document that uses URW-Pallatino fonts and some mp 
backgrounds. Sanjoy had some trouble with the fonts due to missing map 
files. If the document compiles correctly, it will verify that the 
URW-Pallatino map files are correct. Simply unzip the files and
 
 
 Nup, doesn't work:
   kpathsea: Running mktextfm texnansi-uplr8a
 Is this a context problem or do I have some fonts missing?

Probably a case of fonts missing. Those fonts are in cont-fnt.zip that
is not in TeXLive (nor will it be added anytime soon). But FWIW, this
means the bits you do have installed, do work as expected.

Best,

Taco
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Re: [NTG-context] ConTeXt update deletes user files?

2006-12-11 Thread Taco Hoekwater

Hi Oliver,

Oliver Buerschaper wrote:
 Hello,
 
 after updating to the latest ConTeXt release (via i-Installer on my  
 Mac) all my custom files are gone! I put them in .../texmf.local/tex/ 
 context/user/ and now there is emptiness :-( The installer shouldn't  
 touch those files, right?
 
 Is there a way to recover them? I'm a newbie to ConTeXt so it took me  
 ages to collect all the info necessary to assemble a little module  
 that provides theorem-like environments ... and I need this so bad!

I am afraid you should ask this question on the Mac Os TeX mailing list
(i know there is one, just don't know the address).

Good luck, Taco

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Re: [NTG-context] ConTeXt update deletes user files?

2006-12-11 Thread Hans Hagen
Oliver Buerschaper wrote:
 Hello,

 after updating to the latest ConTeXt release (via i-Installer on my  
 Mac) all my custom files are gone! I put them in .../texmf.local/tex/ 
 context/user/ and now there is emptiness :-( The installer shouldn't  
 touch those files, right?
   
right, the user patsh should never be touched by installers
 Is there a way to recover them? I'm a newbie to ConTeXt so it took me  
 ages to collect all the info necessary to assemble a little module  
 that provides theorem-like environments ... and I need this so bad!
   
an option is to make a texmf-project tree and put your files there (and 
add that tree to the TEXMF env var)

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Re: [NTG-context] New Debian context package based on context release 061207

2006-12-11 Thread Norbert Preining
Hi Taco!

On Mon, 11 Dez 2006, Taco Hoekwater wrote:
 Nup, doesn't work:
  kpathsea: Running mktextfm texnansi-uplr8a
 Is this a context problem or do I have some fonts missing?
 
 Probably a case of fonts missing. Those fonts are in cont-fnt.zip that
 is not in TeXLive (nor will it be added anytime soon). But FWIW, this
 means the bits you do have installed, do work as expected.

Ok. Would it make sense to pack them together with the cont-tmf.zip in
the Debian context package?

Best wishes

Norbert

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Re: [NTG-context] New Debian context package based on context release 061207

2006-12-11 Thread Norbert Preining
On Mon, 11 Dez 2006, Taco Hoekwater wrote:
 That depends on whether you want your packages to be one-on-one 
 compatible with TeXLive or not, and that is something you should

No, the more the better.

 decide for yourself. From my side this is a no-brainer: the more
 context support, the better.

I didn't include it since I THOUGHT that everything is contained already
in the cont-tmf.zip file.

What else would make sense?
- cont-tmf.zip
- cont-fnt.zip
- cont-img.zip ???
- cont-ext.zip ???
- anything else?

Best wishes

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Re: [NTG-context] New Debian context package based on context release 061207

2006-12-11 Thread Hans Hagen
Norbert Preining wrote:
 On Mon, 11 Dez 2006, Taco Hoekwater wrote:
   
 That depends on whether you want your packages to be one-on-one 
 compatible with TeXLive or not, and that is something you should
 

 No, the more the better.

   
 decide for yourself. From my side this is a no-brainer: the more
 context support, the better.
 

 I didn't include it since I THOUGHT that everything is contained already
 in the cont-tmf.zip file.

 What else would make sense?
 - cont-tmf.zip
 - cont-fnt.zip
   
a bunch of extra tfm files that makes context more happy, also some more 
encodings (texnansi support in tex live is poor while this encoding 
vector suits users best)
 - cont-img.zip ???
   
this file has some graphics that users can use to test things; the tex 
test files are in the main zip; it is handy to have the img file 
installed because on the mailing list we often do things like

\externalfigure[cow.pdf]

and suchimages then need to be present someplace
 - cont-ext.zip ???
   
third party stuff; taco manages the process of making them tds/licence 
compliant so including them should be ok
 - anything else?
   
some day next year there will be an additional zip for luatex support

Thanks,

Hans
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Re: [NTG-context] New Debian context package based on context release 061207

2006-12-11 Thread Norbert Preining
Hi Taco!

(BTW: Sorry for bothering with all this, and thanks for the support!)

On Mon, 11 Dez 2006, Taco Hoekwater wrote:
 What else would make sense?
 - cont-tmf.zip
 - cont-fnt.zip
 - cont-img.zip ???
 - cont-ext.zip ???
 
 The most important ones (besides cont-tmf) are cont-fnt and cont-ext.
 cont-img is nice, but not that important (only a few example images).

Are all of them DFSG free? cont-tmf I know, about the others I don't
know. 

If not, I can create two packages which complement each other.

Best wishes

Norbert

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Re: [NTG-context] New Debian context package based on context release 061207

2006-12-11 Thread Hans Hagen
Norbert Preining wrote:
 Hi Taco!

 (BTW: Sorry for bothering with all this, and thanks for the support!)

 On Mon, 11 Dez 2006, Taco Hoekwater wrote:
   
 What else would make sense?
 - cont-tmf.zip
 - cont-fnt.zip
 - cont-img.zip ???
 - cont-ext.zip ???
   
 The most important ones (besides cont-tmf) are cont-fnt and cont-ext.
 cont-img is nice, but not that important (only a few example images).
 

 Are all of them DFSG free? cont-tmf I know, about the others I don't
 know. 


   
as far as we know, they're all free (at least, before adding something 
to the ext file, taco tests the structure etc etc); the third party 
modules are collected on the context wiki, fetched from there and merged 
into the ext zip (as well as uploaded automatically to ctan)

Hans

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Re: [NTG-context] New Debian context package based on context release 061207

2006-12-11 Thread Taco Hoekwater


Norbert Preining wrote:
 Hi Taco!
 
 On Mon, 11 Dez 2006, Taco Hoekwater wrote:
 
Nup, doesn't work:
 kpathsea: Running mktextfm texnansi-uplr8a
Is this a context problem or do I have some fonts missing?

Probably a case of fonts missing. Those fonts are in cont-fnt.zip that
is not in TeXLive (nor will it be added anytime soon). But FWIW, this
means the bits you do have installed, do work as expected.
 
 Ok. Would it make sense to pack them together with the cont-tmf.zip in
 the Debian context package?

That depends on whether you want your packages to be one-on-one 
compatible with TeXLive or not, and that is something you should
decide for yourself. From my side this is a no-brainer: the more
context support, the better.

Best, Taco

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Re: [NTG-context] New Debian context package based on context release 061207

2006-12-11 Thread Hans Hagen
Norbert Preining wrote:
 Hi Danai!

 On Son, 10 Dez 2006, Danai SAE-HAN wrote:
   
 So here is -0.2, which does the following:
 - install doc files
 - do NOT install any map activation files in /etc/texmf/updmap.d
   
 So if I understand correctly, ConTeXt (which I haven't used yet)
 doesn't use the .map files anymore with pdfTeX?  This might be
 interesting for the CJK packages.  Or is the change only relevant for
 ConTeXt-specific fonts?
 

 No, but the map files are installed into
   /texmf/fonts/map/pdftex/context/...
 so that context/pdftex finds them. But there is no need for activation
 via updmap as *only* pdftex is used. Or at least this is how I
 understand it.

   

the problem with a big map file is that it is potentially problematic 
(it definitely was in the past) because there is some fuzzy logic 
involved when embedded files are handled in pdftex;

so, in context, i don't preload all map files, but use \pdfmapfile{...} 
to explicitly load a map file so that we can be sure we have the right 
one -- keep in mind that we can have files on the system with similar 
internal names (the one between  in the map file) but different metric 
(slant, ext, cap,...) ; so, when you have a problem with a missing file 
(reported by pdftex), you can use \loadmapfile[somename.map] in context

Hans
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Re: [NTG-context] ConTeXt update deletes user files?

2006-12-11 Thread Steffen Wolfrum
Am 11.12.2006 um 10:11 schrieb Taco Hoekwater:

 I am afraid you should ask this question on the Mac Os TeX mailing  
 list
 (i know there is one, just don't know the address).


Subscribe at Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/
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[NTG-context] new debian context, including various new files

2006-12-11 Thread Norbert Preining
Hi all!

Another day, another updated...

context 2006.12.07-0.3 is available from the usual place:
deb(-src) http://www.tug.org/texlive/Debian/ context/

Big news: Now all the files from the following zips are included:
cont-tmf.zipthe main CONTEXT distribution   
cont-ext.zipthird party CONTEXT modules
cont-fnt.zipfont metrics of public fonts
cont-img.zipa few resources for testing functionality


With the new packages I was able to compile all the test documents I got
till now (the assignment and the pdftex-t documentation).

Big thanks to Taco for helping me and all his suggestions.

Now I have to get some decent copyright file for Debian inclusion, if
someone can help ...

Best wishes

Norbert

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Re: [NTG-context] New Debian context package based on context release 061207

2006-12-11 Thread Norbert Preining
Hi Hans!

On Mon, 11 Dez 2006, Hans Hagen wrote:
 Are all of them DFSG free? cont-tmf I know, about the others I don't
 know. 
   
 as far as we know, they're all free (at least, before adding something 
 to the ext file, taco tests the structure etc etc); the third party 
 modules are collected on the context wiki, fetched from there and merged 
 into the ext zip (as well as uploaded automatically to ctan)

Thanks.

On Mon, 11 Dez 2006, Hans Hagen wrote:
 What else would make sense?


I have updated the package included all the four zips. Thanks a lot for
the suggestions.

 some day next year there will be an additional zip for luatex support

No problem, will be included, too.

Best wishes

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Re: [NTG-context] New Debian context package based on context release 061207

2006-12-11 Thread Taco Hoekwater


Norbert Preining wrote:
 On Mon, 11 Dez 2006, Taco Hoekwater wrote:
 
That depends on whether you want your packages to be one-on-one 
compatible with TeXLive or not, and that is something you should
 
 No, the more the better.
 
decide for yourself. From my side this is a no-brainer: the more
context support, the better.
 
 I didn't include it since I THOUGHT that everything is contained already
 in the cont-tmf.zip file.
 
 What else would make sense?
 - cont-tmf.zip
 - cont-fnt.zip
 - cont-img.zip ???
 - cont-ext.zip ???

The most important ones (besides cont-tmf) are cont-fnt and cont-ext.
cont-img is nice, but not that important (only a few example images).

Hans, anything else?

Taco
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Re: [NTG-context] New Debian context package based on context release 061207

2006-12-11 Thread Norbert Preining
On Mon, 11 Dez 2006, Taco Hoekwater wrote:
 Nup, doesn't work:
  kpathsea: Running mktextfm texnansi-uplr8a
 Is this a context problem or do I have some fonts missing?
 
 Probably a case of fonts missing. Those fonts are in cont-fnt.zip that

Thanks, this worked. Nice ...

Best wishes

Norbert

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Re: [NTG-context] \head and pagebreak

2006-12-11 Thread Hans Hagen
Idris Samawi Hamid wrote:
 A folllow-up:

 On Sun, 10 Dec 2006 21:41:54 -0700, Idris Samawi Hamid  
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

   
 Dear gang,

 Is there a way to absolutely forbid a pagebreak between \head and its
 following paragraph? [intro] tries hard but sometimes fails. I tried

 \setupitemize[each] [inmargin,autointro]
 \setuptolerance[vertical,stretch]

 but I still get pagebreaks.
 

 One problem that occurs is the following:

 =
 \head text

 \index{more text}{more text}
 =

 If there is a page break after \head then in the index 'more text' will be  
 listed as ocurring on page n when in fact it occurs on page n+1. This  
 makes the problem that much more urgent:-)

   
head text\index{...}


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Re: [NTG-context] \head and pagebreak

2006-12-11 Thread Idris Samawi Hamid
On Mon, 11 Dec 2006 05:02:03 -0700, Hans Hagen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Is there a way to absolutely forbid a pagebreak between \head and its
 following paragraph? [intro] tries hard but sometimes fails. I tried

 \setupitemize[each] [inmargin,autointro]
 \setuptolerance[vertical,stretch]

 but I still get pagebreaks.


 One problem that occurs is the following:

 =
 \head text

 \index{more text}{more text}
 =

 If there is a page break after \head then in the index 'more text' will  
 be
 listed as ocurring on page n when in fact it occurs on page n+1. This
 makes the problem that much more urgent:-)


 head text\index{...}

But I want the indexed entry to be registered in the second paragraph eg

=
\head Asani, Ali S.

\index{The Bujh Niranjan: An Ismaili Mystical Poem}{\bf The Bujh
Niranjan: An Ismaili Mystical Poem}, Cambridge, Mass: Harvard
University Press, 1991.
=

if I do

=
\head Asani, Ali S.\index{The Bujh Niranjan: An Ismaili Mystical Poem}

{\bf The Bujh Niranjan: An Ismaili Mystical Poem}, Cambridge, Mass: Harvard
University Press, 1991.
=

That just compounds the problem.

EUREKA! I just found something that seems to work:

\leavemode\index

When I do this there no pagebreaks after \head at all. I wonder why this  
affects the pagebreaks...

What is the proper way to define my own \INDEX in terms of index?

\def\INDEX#1#2#3{\leavevmode\index[#1]{#2}{#3}}

does not work properly (maybe because the [] option is not always used).

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[NTG-context] indenting of first paragraph in (sub)section

2006-12-11 Thread Vyatcheslav Yatskovsky
Hello,

I' trying to figure out why

\setupindenting[first,medium,yes]

does not indents the FIRST paragraph of a section or subsection.

An example follows.

Thanks in advance.



\setupbodyfont[lbr,11pt]

\setuppapersize[A4]
\setuplayout[width=17cm,height=28cm, topspace=1cm, header=1cm, footer=1cm, 
location=middle]

\setupitemize[n,joinedup]
\setuppagenumbering[location=]

\setupwhitespace[medium]
\setupindenting[first,medium,yes]

\showframe


\starttext

\section{INTRODUCTION}

\subsection{Rationale}

Anyone who has been around the computer industry for a decade or more is well 
aware of this phenomenon: machines are getting exponentially more powerful per 
unit cost, yet users do not perceive this improvement in the applications that 
they purchase. For example, while word processors are clearly faster today than 
they were 21 years ago, they aren't 16,384 times faster as Moore's Law would 
suggest. Part of the problem, of course, is that some of the additional 
processing power has been employed to support new features (such as a 
bit-mapped display), but a large part of the reason software users aren't 
seeing an increase in speed is because many of today's programmers don't take 
the time to write efficient software, or they simply {\it don't know} how to 
write fast code.

\stoptext

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Re: [NTG-context] indenting of first paragraph in (sub)section

2006-12-11 Thread Aditya Mahajan
On Mon, 11 Dec 2006, Vyatcheslav Yatskovsky wrote:

 Hello,

 I' trying to figure out why

 \setupindenting[first,medium,yes]

 does not indents the FIRST paragraph of a section or subsection.


\setupheads[indentnext=yes]

if you want to indent after all heads

or

\setuphead[section,subsection,subsubsection][indentnext=yes]

if you want to control which heads should be indented


Aditya

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Re: [NTG-context] indenting of first paragraph in (sub)section

2006-12-11 Thread David Rogers
Vyatcheslav Yatskovsky wrote:

Hello,

I' trying to figure out why

\setupindenting[first,medium,yes]

does not indents the FIRST paragraph of a section or subsection.

An example follows.

Thanks in advance.

It is normal to not indent the first paragraph, only second and later 
paragraphs - because indenting is used to separate paragraphs from each other, 
and the first does not need to be separated from anything (because it was 
first).

When I add a second paragraph to your example, it is indented according to your 
instructions.

If you still want to indent the first paragraph, there's probably a way to 
force it; but I don't know how.
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Re: [NTG-context] New Debian context package based on context release 061207

2006-12-11 Thread Sanjoy Mahajan
  Nup, doesn't work:
  kpathsea: Running mktextfm texnansi-uplr8a
  Is this a context problem or do I have some fonts missing?
 
 Probably a case of fonts missing. Those fonts are in cont-fnt.zip that
 is not in TeXLive (nor will it be added anytime soon). But FWIW, this
 means the bits you do have installed, do work as expected.

I had the same error, which remained after installing cont-fnt.zip.
I'll make a small test case soonish.

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Re: [NTG-context] New Debian context package based on context release 061207

2006-12-11 Thread Norbert Preining
Hi Sanjoy!

On Mon, 11 Dez 2006, Sanjoy Mahajan wrote:
   Nup, doesn't work:
 kpathsea: Running mktextfm texnansi-uplr8a
   Is this a context problem or do I have some fonts missing?
  
  Probably a case of fonts missing. Those fonts are in cont-fnt.zip that
  is not in TeXLive (nor will it be added anytime soon). But FWIW, this
  means the bits you do have installed, do work as expected.
 
 I had the same error, which remained after installing cont-fnt.zip.
 I'll make a small test case soonish.

Here it does work after installation of cont-fnt.zip. Or the current
Debian context package.

Best wishes

Norbert

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