Re: [NTG-context] Directly checking out http://context.aanhet.net/svn?

2008-07-15 Thread Taco Hoekwater
Oliver Buerschaper wrote:
 Dear Hans and Taco,
 
 is it possible to checkout things from the http://context.aanhet.net/svn/ 
   repository directly with svn? 

No. These are local checkouts only, of:

contexttest: http://scm.foundry.supelec.fr/svn/contexttest
luatex:  http://scm.foundry.supelec.fr/svn/luatex
manuals: svn://83.247.100.17:33690/manuals

Best wishes,
Taco
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Re: [NTG-context] Directly checking out http://context.aanhet.net/svn?

2008-07-15 Thread Taco Hoekwater
Mojca Miklavec wrote:
 
 http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextman/

That site only has the context beginners manual (and translations).
The 'manuals' on http://context.aanhet.net/svn is a check out of
pragma-ade's public svn repository containing many more manuals

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Re: [NTG-context] Directly checking out http://context.aanhet.net/svn?

2008-07-15 Thread Oliver Buerschaper
 No. These are local checkouts only, of:

 contexttest: http://scm.foundry.supelec.fr/svn/contexttest
 luatex:  http://scm.foundry.supelec.fr/svn/luatex
 manuals: svn://83.247.100.17:33690/manuals

That makes sense … I've already had the first two items but didn't  
know the last one.

Many thanks,
Oliver
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Re: [NTG-context] fonts (in luatex) (again)

2008-07-15 Thread Andrea Valle

Still, can't have this font stuff working...


(which I do not understand: but that's another story)
I have saved the file under the same folder of tex file I'm  
working at

3. then I have called: context --generate


3.1. Generate name entries for the font database

To access fonts with the name you have to create the database
with the entries:

mtxrun --script font --reload


where should I be in order to run it? I have not set the env  
variables, I'm using this kind of approach:


cd /Applications/ConTeXtMinimals/
. /Applications/ConTeXtMinimals/tex/setuptex /Applications/ 
ConTeXtMinimals/tex







4. In my tex file I have added:
\usetypefile [delicious]
\usetypescript[delicious]
\setupbodyfont[delicious]
5. while compiling I'm having a problem with  delicious.
Log attached


Make a test with the fonts and the files in the same directory.


This does not work. It aborts because of delicious not found.
But if I put the type-delicious.tex file in
/Applications/ConTeXtMinimals/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/
then run
mtxrun --script font --reload
I have not errors, but the used font is not delicious (I guess it's LM)


When this did not work access the fonts by filename and not by
fontname, to do thos you have to replace name: by file:,
this is unproblematic for the delicious fonts because fontname
and filename are equal.



Does not change anything

Thanks

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Re: [NTG-context] Bibliography inside .tex file

2008-07-15 Thread Maurí­cio
Aditya Mahajan a écrit :
 On Mon, 14 Jul 2008, Maur�cio wrote:
 
 Hi,

 I've read about \usemodule[bib], and I learned
 how to create .bbl file. However, I would like
 to insert my bibliographic references inside my
 .tex file, not in an external file. Is it
 possible to do that?
 
 Usually, just copying the contents of your bbl file into the main file 
 works.
 
 Aditya
 

Can I ask some details? Before or after \starttext?
Should I enclose it in \start / \stop something?

Thanks,
Maurício

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Re: [NTG-context] fonts (in luatex) (again)

2008-07-15 Thread Mojca Miklavec
On Tue, Jul 15, 2008 at 3:14 PM, Andrea Valle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Still, can't have this font stuff working...

 (which I do not understand: but that's another story)
 I have saved the file under the same folder of tex file I'm working at
 3. then I have called: context --generate

 3.1. Generate name entries for the font database
 To access fonts with the name you have to create the database
 with the entries:
 mtxrun --script font --reload

 where should I be in order to run it? I have not set the env variables, I'm
 using this kind of approach:
 cd /Applications/ConTeXtMinimals/
 . /Applications/ConTeXtMinimals/tex/setuptex
 /Applications/ConTeXtMinimals/tex

You only need the second command. cd is not needed. Once you issue
. /Applications/CM/tex/setuptex /Applications/CM/tex
you should be able to run both
mtxrun --script font --reload
mtxrun --script font --list
Maybe try to run
luatools --selfupdate
luatools --generate
before that.

 4. In my tex file I have added:
 \usetypefile [delicious]
 \usetypescript[delicious]
 \setupbodyfont[delicious]
 5. while compiling I'm having a problem with delicious.
 Log attached

 Make a test with the fonts and the files in the same directory.

 This does not work. It aborts because of delicious not found.
 But if I put the type-delicious.tex file in
 /Applications/ConTeXtMinimals/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/
 then run
 mtxrun --script font --reload
 I have not errors, but the used font is not delicious (I guess it's LM)

Looks as if something is wrong with filename database. Does luatools
--generate solve anything?

Mojca
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Re: [NTG-context] fonts (in luatex) (again)

2008-07-15 Thread Andrea Valle




You only need the second command. cd is not needed. Once you issue
. /Applications/CM/tex/setuptex /Applications/CM/tex
you should be able to run both
mtxrun --script font --reload
mtxrun --script font --list
Maybe try to run
luatools --selfupdate
luatools --generate
before that.



Ah, ok, it sets up the path for the session.
Done. The list does not include delicious as far as I can say, and  
the total is the same as before (161)



 not delicious (I guess it's LM)


Looks as if something is wrong with filename database. Does luatools
--generate solve anything?



Worse :)
Now, in both circumstances (with type-delicious in /base or in the  
same folder of my test.tex file) compilation aborts.

l.3 \setupbodyfont[delicious]

!  == Fatal error occurred, no output PDF file produced!
MtxRun | loading configuration for /Applications/ConTeXtMinimals/tex/ 
texmf/web2c from /Applications/ConTeXtMinimals/tex/texmf-cache/luatex- 
cache/context/aac20ce207a097b4b480d7b5eb76554a/trees/ 
d9ef00871d7b11751a275cffd8a85753
MtxRun | run 1: luatex --fmt=/Applications/ConTeXtMinimals/tex/texmf- 
cache/luatex-cache/context/aac20ce207a097b4b480d7b5eb76554a/formats/ 
cont-en --lua=/Applications/ConTeXtMinimals/tex/texmf-cache/luatex- 
cache/context/aac20ce207a097b4b480d7b5eb76554a/formats/cont-en.lua / 
test/test.tex

MtxRun | fatal error, code: 1

Best

-a-





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Re: [NTG-context] fonts (in luatex) (again)

2008-07-15 Thread Mojca Miklavec
On Tue, Jul 15, 2008 at 4:16 PM, Mojca Miklavec wrote:
 Hello Andrea,

 before proceeding any further ... where on earth did you find exactly
 that font? :) :) :)

 It's a resource-based Type1 font or whatever they call it. I don't
 believe that LuaTeX supports such fonts at all, but maybe Taco can
 correct me. XeTeX only supports those fonts when using xdv2pdf engine
 (xdvipdfmx doesn't honor them). And I would say if you really wanted
 to use those fonts in ConTeXt, there is a way, but hardcoded deep down
 in ConTeXt core.

Btw: with the fonts that you have sent me, the definitions should be

\starttypescript [sans] [delicious]
\definefontsynonym [Delicious-Regular][file:DelicRom][features=default]
\definefontsynonym [Delicious-Italic] [file:DelicIta][features=default]
\definefontsynonym [Delicious-Bold]   [file:DelicBol][features=default]
\definefontsynonym [Delicious-BoldItalic] [file:DelicBolIta] [features=default]
% it should be features=smallcaps for normal fonts
\definefontsynonym [Delicious-Caps]   [file:DelicSmaCap] [features=default]
\stoptypescript

But the font doesn't work with LuaTeX anyway (it could work in XeTeX),
so do not even try. The name after file: needs to match the
filename.

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Re: [NTG-context] Bibliography inside .tex file

2008-07-15 Thread Aditya Mahajan

On Tue, 15 Jul 2008, Maurí­cio wrote:


Aditya Mahajan a écrit :

On Mon, 14 Jul 2008, Maur???cio wrote:


Hi,

I've read about \usemodule[bib], and I learned
how to create .bbl file. However, I would like
to insert my bibliographic references inside my
.tex file, not in an external file. Is it
possible to do that?


Usually, just copying the contents of your bbl file into the main file
works.

Aditya



Can I ask some details? Before or after \starttext?
Should I enclose it in \start / \stop something?


You need to put them before \starttext. For example,

\usemodule[bib]

\setuppublicationlist[samplesize={ABFG{\etalchar{+}}93},totalnumber=220]
\startpublication[k=test,t=article,
a={{Ahlswede},{}},y=2000,
n=1,s=ACLY00]
\artauthor[]{R.}[R.]{}{Ahlswede}
\artauthor[]{Ning}[N.]{}{Cai}
\artauthor[]{S.~Y.~R.}[S.~Y.~R.]{}{Li}
\artauthor[]{R.~W.}[R.~W.]{}{Yeung}
\pubyear{2000}
\arttitle{Network information flow}
\journal{{IEEE} Trans. Inf. Theory}
\issn{0018-9448}
\volume{46}
\issue{4}
\pages{1204--1216}
\month{7}
\stoppublication


\starttext
Checking publication~\cite[test]

\placepublications
\stoptext

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Re: [NTG-context] fonts (in luatex) (again)

2008-07-15 Thread Andrea Valle

Ciao Mojca,



before proceeding any further ... where on earth did you find exactly
that font? :) :) :)


On the ConTeXt mailing list, I was just following a previous thread  
on fonts :)



You
need to download PC (OpenType) font, not Mac (Type1).


Ok, done, now I see that the original file names by Wolfgang matches


Apart from that, it works for me,


Yes! for me too!


but
   kpsewhich type-delicious.tex
needs to return you the file if you want to be able to use it. And


nothing, neither with luatools


kpsewhich Delicious-Roman.otf needs to return you something as well.
(replace kpsewhich by luatools in the previous sentence)


the only thing which works is:
polifilo:~ andreavalle$ luatools Delicious-Roman.otf
/Users/andreavalle/Library/Fonts/Delicious-Roman.otf

Is there a place where to put the the type- .tex files, so that they  
are available without having them to include in the working folder?


Thanks

Best

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Re: [NTG-context] bib module and interaction

2008-07-15 Thread Aditya Mahajan
Hi Taco,


On Mon, 14 Jul 2008, Taco Hoekwater wrote:

 Aditya Mahajan wrote:
 On Mon, 14 Jul 2008, Wolfgang Schuster wrote:

 Am 14.07.2008 um 05:56 schrieb Aditya Mahajan:

 Hi,

 I cannot find an option to enable interaction with the bib module. I
 want
 \cite[ref] to create a forward link to the bibliography where the
 reference appears. Is this supported by t-bib?
 \setupcite[interaction=start]

 Does not work. Looking at t-bib, it seems that this makes the url and doi
 insite the references interactive, but not the output of \cite command.

 You have to turn off the compress feature:

   \setupcite[interaction=start, compress=no]

How about redefining \docite as follows

\def\docite[#1][#2]%
   {\begingroup
\setupinteraction[\c!style=\bibalternative\c!style,
  \c!color=\bibalternative\c!color]%
% Rest of the defn}%

This way, it will be possible to change the color and style of references 
when interaction is on using

\setupcite[color=darkgreen,style=normal]

What do you think?

Aditya

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Re: [NTG-context] fonts (in luatex) (again)

2008-07-15 Thread Mojca Miklavec
Hello Andrea,

before proceeding any further ... where on earth did you find exactly
that font? :) :) :)

It's a resource-based Type1 font or whatever they call it. I don't
believe that LuaTeX supports such fonts at all, but maybe Taco can
correct me. XeTeX only supports those fonts when using xdv2pdf engine
(xdvipdfmx doesn't honor them). And I would say if you really wanted
to use those fonts in ConTeXt, there is a way, but hardcoded deep down
in ConTeXt core.

I took a look at http://www.josbuivenga.demon.nl/delicious.html. You
need to download PC (OpenType) font, not Mac (Type1).

Apart from that, it works for me, but
   kpsewhich type-delicious.tex
needs to return you the file if you want to be able to use it. And
kpsewhich Delicious-Roman.otf needs to return you something as well.
(replace kpsewhich by luatools in the previous sentence)

On Tue, Jul 15, 2008 at 3:34 PM, Andrea Valle wrote:

 You only need the second command. cd is not needed. Once you issue
 . /Applications/CM/tex/setuptex /Applications/CM/tex
 you should be able to run both
 mtxrun --script font --reload
 mtxrun --script font --list
 Maybe try to run
 luatools --selfupdate
 luatools --generate
 before that.

 Ah, ok, it sets up the path for the session.
 Done. The list does not include delicious as far as I can say, and the total
 is the same as before (161)

  not delicious (I guess it's LM)

 Looks as if something is wrong with filename database. Does luatools
 --generate solve anything?

It should.

 Worse :)
 Now, in both circumstances (with type-delicious in /base or in the same
 folder of my test.tex file) compilation aborts.
 l.3 \setupbodyfont[delicious]

 !  == Fatal error occurred, no output PDF file produced!

No idea. Something completely unrelated must be wrong then.

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Re: [NTG-context] fonts (in luatex) (again)

2008-07-15 Thread Andrea Valle

Hi

now I'm trying to use Optima.

So I assembled a type-optima.tex with this:

\starttypescript [sans] [optima]

\definefontsynonym [OptimaRegular]   [name:Optima Regular]
[features=default]
\definefontsynonym [OptimaBold]   [name:Optima Bold]
[features=default]
\definefontsynonym [OptimaBoldItalic]   [name:Optima Bold  
Italic]   [features=default]
\definefontsynonym [OptimaExtraBlack]   [name:Optima  
ExtraBlack]   [features=default]
\definefontsynonym [OptimaItalic]   [name:Optima Italic]
[features=default]


\stoptypescript

\starttypescript [sans] [optima]

\definefontsynonym [Sans][OptimaRegular]  
[features=default]
\definefontsynonym [SansItalic]  [OptimaItalic]   
[features=default]
\definefontsynonym [SansBold][OptimaBold]  
[features=default]
\definefontsynonym [SansBoldItalic]  [OptimaBoldItalic]   
[features=default]
\definefontsynonym [SansExtra]  [OptimaExtraBlack]   
[features=default]


\stoptypescript

\starttypescript
\definetypeface[optima][rm][sans][optima][default]
\definetypeface[optima][ss][sans][optima][default]
\definetypeface[optima][tt][mono][modern]  [default][rscale=1.12]
\definetypeface[optima][mm][math][iwona]   [default][rscale=1.02]
\stoptypescript




Then, did the usual stuff.
But the pdf  from

\usetypefile [optima]
\usetypescript[optima]
\setupbodyfont[optima]

\starttext
Oh yes, I'm a test, baby

{\bf there's a little} {\em black} {\sc spot}

in the sun today
\stoptext   

uses LM.
The console says:


specials   : fdf loaded
) (type-optima.tex)

...

the font file is Optima.dfont


Best

-a-

On 15 Jul 2008, at 16:18, Mojca Miklavec wrote:


On Tue, Jul 15, 2008 at 4:16 PM, Mojca Miklavec wrote:

Hello Andrea,

before proceeding any further ... where on earth did you find exactly
that font? :) :) :)

It's a resource-based Type1 font or whatever they call it. I don't
believe that LuaTeX supports such fonts at all, but maybe Taco can
correct me. XeTeX only supports those fonts when using xdv2pdf engine
(xdvipdfmx doesn't honor them). And I would say if you really wanted
to use those fonts in ConTeXt, there is a way, but hardcoded deep  
down

in ConTeXt core.


Btw: with the fonts that you have sent me, the definitions should be

\starttypescript [sans] [delicious]
\definefontsynonym [Delicious-Regular][file:DelicRom] 
[features=default]
\definefontsynonym [Delicious-Italic] [file:DelicIta] 
[features=default]
\definefontsynonym [Delicious-Bold]   [file:DelicBol] 
[features=default]
\definefontsynonym [Delicious-BoldItalic] [file:DelicBolIta]  
[features=default]

% it should be features=smallcaps for normal fonts
\definefontsynonym [Delicious-Caps]   [file:DelicSmaCap]  
[features=default]

\stoptypescript

But the font doesn't work with LuaTeX anyway (it could work in XeTeX),
so do not even try. The name after file: needs to match the
filename.

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Re: [NTG-context] ConTeXt modules on CTAN (authors, please check)

2008-07-15 Thread Aditya Mahajan
On Mon, 14 Jul 2008, Mojca Miklavec wrote:

 Hello,

 The ConTeXt modules are now mirrored on CTAN, but they might be
 lacking better descriptions in the catalogue. Authors of modules -
 please check.

They are still not included in the current texlive beta.

Aditya

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Re: [NTG-context] ConTeXt modules on CTAN (authors, please check)

2008-07-15 Thread Mojca Miklavec
On Tue, Jul 15, 2008 at 5:14 PM, Aditya Mahajan wrote:
 On Mon, 14 Jul 2008, Mojca Miklavec wrote:

 Hello,

 The ConTeXt modules are now mirrored on CTAN, but they might be
 lacking better descriptions in the catalogue. Authors of modules -
 please check.

 They are still not included in the current texlive beta.

They are under
http://www.ctan.org/tex-archive/macros/context/contrib/
but not imported into TeX Live yet.

Karl asked us to rename tex/context/third/vim into
tex/context/third/context-vim (or some similar approach), so that
folder names would match package name. Renaming the package into vim
is out of question since there is already vim package in TL (this is
what Karl says, but even if there are no collisions - it's nice if
it's clear that something is a ConTeXt package).

TeX Live has some automated scripts that check the whole TeX Live tree
and match package name with contents. If all packages obey that rule,
then one doesn't need to care about list of files that belong to a
certain package.

But I don't like that solution just for the sake of TeX Live. All
other distributions can live without that double naming happily. It
would be much better if some ConTeXt-specific package management would
be implemented (scripts should be told that they need to deal with
ConTeXt package, not LaTeX package, and search fof files accordingly)
- ConTeXt packages have enough strict rules of where files may reside.
Or whatever.

Another solution would be to write rules about which files to fetch
for each package. But then Karl doesn't like that solution since he
doesn't like having to create new rules every time a new package
appears. I'm willing to write those if that would solve the problem.

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Re: [NTG-context] fonts (in luatex) (again)

2008-07-15 Thread Mojca Miklavec
On Tue, Jul 15, 2008 at 5:10 PM, Andrea Valle wrote:
 Hi
 now I'm trying to use Optima.
...
 the font file is Optima.dfont

I'm not sure if LuaTeX can (already) handle thole .dfont fonts.
Neither Hans nor Taco use Mac for their everyday work. Taco?

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Re: [NTG-context] fonts (in luatex) (again)

2008-07-15 Thread Aditya Mahajan
On Tue, 15 Jul 2008, Andrea Valle wrote:

 Is there a place where to put the the type- .tex files, so that they are 
 available without having them to include in the working folder?

I usually include my presonal files at $TEXMFHOME/tex/context/aditya/

Aditya
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Re: [NTG-context] fonts (in luatex) (again)

2008-07-15 Thread Mojca Miklavec
On Tue, Jul 15, 2008 at 4:50 PM, Aditya Mahajan wrote:
 On Tue, 15 Jul 2008, Andrea Valle wrote:

 Is there a place where to put the the type- .tex files, so that they are
 available without having them to include in the working folder?

 I usually include my presonal files at $TEXMFHOME/tex/context/aditya/

TEXMFHOME is undefined in minimals for some reason (inherited from the
old file). Maybe we should add it again?

An alternative is to put files to texmf-local (that would be
/Applications/ConTeXtMinimals/tex/texmf-local/tex/context/whatever-you-please/
on your computer), but $TEXMFHOME might make more sense.

Just make sure that you don't loose those files after accidental upgrade.

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Re: [NTG-context] fonts (in luatex) (again)

2008-07-15 Thread Andrea Valle
Just make sure that you don't loose those files after accidental  
upgrade.


Yeah, that's the point

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Re: [NTG-context] fonts (in luatex) (again)

2008-07-15 Thread Andrea Valle
Ah, because I was thinking that LuaTeX was like XeTeX, where I can  
use all the system fonts

So, which kind of font files should I consider?
What about font files without extension?

Thanks

-a-

On 15 Jul 2008, at 17:35, Mojca Miklavec wrote:


On Tue, Jul 15, 2008 at 5:10 PM, Andrea Valle wrote:

Hi
now I'm trying to use Optima.

...

the font file is Optima.dfont


I'm not sure if LuaTeX can (already) handle thole .dfont fonts.
Neither Hans nor Taco use Mac for their everyday work. Taco?

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Re: [NTG-context] fonts (in luatex) (again)

2008-07-15 Thread Taco Hoekwater
Mojca Miklavec wrote:
 On Tue, Jul 15, 2008 at 5:10 PM, Andrea Valle wrote:
 Hi
 now I'm trying to use Optima.
 ...
 the font file is Optima.dfont
 
 I'm not sure if LuaTeX can (already) handle thole .dfont fonts.

 Neither Hans nor Taco use Mac for their everyday work. Taco?

I don't even know what a .dfont is :-/

Best wishes,
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Re: [NTG-context] fonts (in luatex) (again)

2008-07-15 Thread Arthur Reutenauer
 I don't even know what a .dfont is :-/

  It's a file that packs several font files (usually the four basic
ones) into one.  I don't know the details of the format, but I expect
that it really only contains the font file, with a few headers.
Fontforge has known how to handle it for years, so it should be
manageable in Mark IV.

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Re: [NTG-context] fonts (in luatex) (again)

2008-07-15 Thread Mojca Miklavec
On Tue, Jul 15, 2008 at 5:59 PM, Andrea Valle wrote:
 Ah, because I was thinking that LuaTeX was like XeTeX, where I can use all
 the system fonts
 So, which kind of font files should I consider?

Any font.

... except for those that come with your Mac :) :) :)

Well, you can use otf, ttf, pfb, tfm (TeX), ...

 What about font files without extension?

I doubt. LuaTeX uses fontforge library to read fonts, so there is no
reason why one would not be able to use them, but you would need to
lend a Mac to Taco for a few days :)

I'm not sure, but .dfont looks like AAT format and no extension like
Mac-specific way of storing Type 1. Both doable, but someone needs to
do that.

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[NTG-context] Highlight changes

2008-07-15 Thread John Devereux

Hi,

Is there a way to automatically highlight changes to a document,
such that the resulting PDF has markers showing changed areas? Bars in
the margin or some such. Or more generally some other way to easily
communicate what has been changed (other than a diff on the source).

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Re: [NTG-context] fonts (in luatex) (again)

2008-07-15 Thread Thomas A. Schmitz

On Jul 15, 2008, at 6:27 PM, Mojca Miklavec wrote:

 I'm not sure, but .dfont looks like AAT format and no extension like
 Mac-specific way of storing Type 1. Both doable, but someone needs to
 do that.

You can run fondu on .dfont files and then use the resulting files  
(ttf or pfb, I guess) for use with whatever flavor of TeX you want.

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Re: [NTG-context] Highlight changes

2008-07-15 Thread Peter Münster
On Tue, Jul 15 2008, John Devereux wrote:
 
 Is there a way to automatically highlight changes to a document,
 such that the resulting PDF has markers showing changed areas? Bars in
 the margin or some such. Or more generally some other way to easily
 communicate what has been changed (other than a diff on the source).

I'm sorry, this _is_ a diff on the source:

http://archive.contextgarden.net/message/20060806.143457.47021821.en.html

But the result can be quite nice.


I've also a module, that makes a table to communicate some changes to the
reader. It's attached. Typeset it with texexec --mode=demo t-changes.

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\ifx \iere  \undefined \def\iere  {\highordinalstr{re}}  \fi
\def\In[#1,#2]{\doifsomething{#1}{\in[#1]}\if\relax#2\else, \In[#2]\fi}
\enableregime[utf]

\unprotect
\newcount\RevC
\def\Changes[#1]{%
  [EMAIL PROTECTED], labels=, #1]% modif, labels, date
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]@modif{%
	  \translate[fr=1\iere\ version,en=First version,de=Erste Version]}}%
  \global\advance\RevC by 1 \bTR
  \expanded{\bTD \the\RevC \eTD}%
  \expanded{\bTD [EMAIL PROTECTED] \eTD}\expanded{\bTD [EMAIL PROTECTED] \eTD}%
  \expandafter\bTD [EMAIL PROTECTED],\relax]\eTD
  \eTR}

\def\startChanges{%
  \bTABLE[option=stretch, textwidth=\textwidth]
  \bTR[background=screen]
  \bTD \translate[fr=Rév, en=Rev, de=Rev].\eTD
  \bTD \translate[fr=Date, en=Date, de=Datum]\eTD
  \bTD \translate[fr=Origine de la mise à jour, en=Reason for update,
de=Grund der Änderung]\eTD
  \bTD \translate[fr=§ modifié, en=modified §, de=mod. §en]\eTD\eTR}
\def\stopChanges{\eTABLE}

\protect

\doifnotmode{demo}{\endinput}

%%

%D Usage example:

\usemodule[changes]
\setupcolors[state=start]
\starttext
\title{The big title}

\startChanges
\Changes[date=1.1.2001]
\Changes[date=2.2.2002, labels=sec:a, modif=Added text from Tufte]
\Changes[date=3.3.2003, labels=sec:b, modif=Added text from Knuth]
\Changes[date=4.4.2004, labels={sec:a,sec:b}, modif=Added even more text]
\stopChanges

\subject{Contents}
\placecontent

\section[sec:a]{First section}
\input tufte
more text

\section[sec:b]{Second section}
\input knuth
more text
\stoptext
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[NTG-context] Latest beta + LuaTeX

2008-07-15 Thread Otared Kavian
Dear magicians,

I just updated to the latest betas (ConTeXt and LuaTeX taken on
svn://scm.foundry.supelec.fr/svn/luatex
and I tried to build luatex on my machine (MacBook Pro under Mac OS X  
10.5.4): everything goes fine, the binary is there, that is in
trunk/build/texk/web2c/luatex
but trying to make the formats (as I did usually thanks to the  
directives given by Thomas Schmitz), I get an error message saying this:

! Emergency stop.
\lastexpanded -\endtemplate
  \global \everyloadluacode {}
\ctxluabyteload ...#2 } \stopruntimectxluacode }
   \ctxlua  
{ lua.bytedata[\th...
\registerctxluafile ...se \ctxluabyteload {#1}{#2}
   \fi \global  
\everyloadluac...
l.165 \registerctxluafile{luat-env}{1.001}

mkiv lua stats : used config path - /usr/local/texlive/2007/texmf/ 
web2c/texmf.cnf

mkiv lua stats : used cache path  - /tmp

mkiv lua stats : input load time  - 0.067 seconds

mkiv lua stats : current memory usage - 6144468 bytes

mkiv lua stats : node memory usage- 18 glue_spec, 1 if_stack, 1 dir

However ConTeXt mkii works fine.
Since I don't use yet extensively mkiv, I am just reporting the issue  
to inform the community.

With my best regards: OK
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Re: [NTG-context] Latest beta + LuaTeX

2008-07-15 Thread Taco Hoekwater
Otared Kavian wrote:
 Dear magicians,
 
 I just updated to the latest betas (ConTeXt and LuaTeX taken on
 svn://scm.foundry.supelec.fr/svn/luatex
 and I tried to build luatex on my machine (MacBook Pro under Mac OS X  
 10.5.4): everything goes fine, the binary is there, that is in
 trunk/build/texk/web2c/luatex
 but trying to make the formats (as I did usually thanks to the  
 directives given by Thomas Schmitz), I get an error message saying this:
 
 ! Emergency stop.

 Since I don't use yet extensively mkiv, I am just reporting the issue  
 to inform the community.

Thanks, for the heads up. The luatex trunk is a bit in flux at the
moment. We are trying to squeeze the previous half year of pdftex and
texlive development into it, and it takes some effort.

Best wishes,
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Re: [NTG-context] ConTeXt modules on CTAN (authors, please check)

2008-07-15 Thread Hans Hagen
Aditya Mahajan wrote:
 On Mon, 14 Jul 2008, Mojca Miklavec wrote:
 
 Hello,

 The ConTeXt modules are now mirrored on CTAN, but they might be
 lacking better descriptions in the catalogue. Authors of modules -
 please check.
 
 They are still not included in the current texlive beta.

maybe taco can check in cont-ext.zip


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Re: [NTG-context] ConTeXt modules on CTAN (authors, please check)

2008-07-15 Thread Hans Hagen
Mojca Miklavec wrote:
 On Tue, Jul 15, 2008 at 5:14 PM, Aditya Mahajan wrote:
 On Mon, 14 Jul 2008, Mojca Miklavec wrote:

 Hello,

 The ConTeXt modules are now mirrored on CTAN, but they might be
 lacking better descriptions in the catalogue. Authors of modules -
 please check.
 They are still not included in the current texlive beta.
 
 They are under
 http://www.ctan.org/tex-archive/macros/context/contrib/
 but not imported into TeX Live yet.
 
 Karl asked us to rename tex/context/third/vim into
 tex/context/third/context-vim (or some similar approach), so that
 folder names would match package name. Renaming the package into vim
 is out of question since there is already vim package in TL (this is
 what Karl says, but even if there are no collisions - it's nice if
 it's clear that something is a ConTeXt package).

hm, kind of weird to have context in the path and then in the name

 TeX Live has some automated scripts that check the whole TeX Live tree
 and match package name with contents. If all packages obey that rule,
 then one doesn't need to care about list of files that belong to a
 certain package.

thats the same for any macro package so maybe the packages should have 
names like macropackage-name where the instaleer strips the macro 
package prefix and uses that for installing

 But I don't like that solution just for the sake of TeX Live. All
 other distributions can live without that double naming happily. It
 would be much better if some ConTeXt-specific package management would
 be implemented (scripts should be told that they need to deal with
 ConTeXt package, not LaTeX package, and search fof files accordingly)
 - ConTeXt packages have enough strict rules of where files may reside.
 Or whatever.

we can add that feature to mtx-update (or i can write something dedicated)

 Another solution would be to write rules about which files to fetch
 for each package. But then Karl doesn't like that solution since he
 doesn't like having to create new rules every time a new package
 appears. I'm willing to write those if that would solve the problem.

easiest would be just to pack all third party stuff in one big zip 
(after all it's not that huge) and just unzip it in the tree

Hans

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Re: [NTG-context] fonts (in luatex) (again)

2008-07-15 Thread Hans Hagen
Andrea Valle wrote:
 Hi
 
 now I'm trying to use Optima.

see type-ghz.tex and type-hgz.tex


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Re: [NTG-context] fonts (in luatex) (again)

2008-07-15 Thread Charles P. Schaum
That's right; use fondu. Fontforge can read a .dfont (data fork
resource) but it cannot specify something within that to load without
user input.

The only files that use .dfont are from Apple for Apple. The Mac knows
what is basically coded into these files and works with them
accordingly. That presents the design decision of whether to support an
alien font scheme that only exists in Steve Jobs' universe, not in the
rest of the 95% of computers out there.

Then there is the whole issue of encoding because especially the
Apple .dfont files tend to have a number of named glyphs that Fontforge
thinks are misplaced.

Fontforge also will not open a font in a ~/.fonts dir, at least on
Ubuntu Hardy. It does not appear to handle special cases of pathnames
very well.

You can, however, use Fontforge and fondu to get at the fonts in the
resource fork; fondu looks like it is better for the task 

Charles

On Tue, 2008-07-15 at 21:19 +0200, Thomas A. Schmitz wrote:
 On Jul 15, 2008, at 6:27 PM, Mojca Miklavec wrote:
 
  I'm not sure, but .dfont looks like AAT format and no extension like
  Mac-specific way of storing Type 1. Both doable, but someone needs to
  do that.
 
 You can run fondu on .dfont files and then use the resulting files  
 (ttf or pfb, I guess) for use with whatever flavor of TeX you want.
 
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Re: [NTG-context] fonts (in luatex) (again)

2008-07-15 Thread Andrea Valle

Thanks Hans,
Optima is among my favourite fonts, but the idea was to understand  
how to use system fonts


Best

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On 15 Jul 2008, at 22:54, Hans Hagen wrote:


Andrea Valle wrote:

Hi

now I'm trying to use Optima.


see type-ghz.tex and type-hgz.tex


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Re: [NTG-context] fonts (in luatex) (again)

2008-07-15 Thread Hans Hagen
Mojca Miklavec wrote:
 On Tue, Jul 15, 2008 at 5:10 PM, Andrea Valle wrote:
 Hi
 now I'm trying to use Optima.
 
 the font file is Optima.dfont
 
 I'm not sure if LuaTeX can (already) handle thole .dfont fonts.
 Neither Hans nor Taco use Mac for their everyday work. Taco?

i have no clue what and font is and i'm not even sure if i want to know 
it; non portable so ...


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[NTG-context] inter-word spacing (initials)

2008-07-15 Thread Alan Bowen
I have the latest ConTeXt and  am using mkii.

One used to be able to reduce the spacing after an initial by by  
typing “.\space”, but this no longer seems to work. Compare the  
inter-word spacing in

\starttext
A. E. Samuel\crlf
A.\ E.\ Samuel

\stoptext

If the is a difference here, I am having trouble seeing it; and on a  
typeset page, the gaps after the initials just seem too big.

In general, I find that the spacing after certain characters ---e.g.,  
“)”---has been increased of late. Is this in fact the case? Or should  
I go back to my old glasses?

Cheers, Alan


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[NTG-context] inter-word spacing (initials)

2008-07-15 Thread Alan Bowen
I have the latest ConTeXt and  am using mkii.

One used to be able to reduce the spacing after an initial by by  
typing “.\space”, but this no longer seems to work. Compare the  
inter-word spacing in

\starttext
A. E. Samuel\crlf
A.\ E.\ Samuel

\stoptext

If the is a difference here, I am having trouble seeing it; and on a  
typeset page, the gaps after the initials just seem too big.

In general, I find that the spacing after certain characters ---e.g.,  
“)”---has been increased of late. Is this in fact the case? Or should  
I go back to my old glasses?

Cheers, Alan


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Re: [NTG-context] fonts (in luatex) (again)

2008-07-15 Thread Andrea Valle

Sorry, I know I'm boring...

Now I discovered I have substantially only one latin ttf font on my  
machine among the huge amount of fonts...

Doulos SIL which file is DoulosSILR

So, I'm testing with the type-doulos.tex file containg this
\starttypescript [serif] [doulos]
\setups[font:fallback:roman]
\definefontsynonym [Serif] [Doulos SIL]
\stoptypescript

\starttypescript [serif] [doulos]
\definefontsynonym [Doulos SIL] [file:DoulosSILR][features=default]
\stoptypescript

\starttypescript [doulos]
\definetypeface [doulos] [rm] [roman] [doulos] [default]
\stoptypescript

But does not work.
The fact is probably that I'm not really understanding what's going  
on here.

I was reading some of the resources here:
http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Fonts
e.g. Thomas' article.
http://tug.org/pracjourn/2005-2/schmitz/schmitz.pdf

The problem is that I would probably need this (as suggested once by  
Aditya):

http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Understanding_how_fonts_work_in_ConTeXt
but it's pretty incomplete.

I've also looked at
http://www.pragma-ade.com/general/manuals/mfonts.pdf
but cannot really follow it.

Could anyone comment this famous piece of code?
http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Mark_IV#A_.28Complete. 
29_Typescript_Example

I'd like to add infos to the wiki


Thanks

Best

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Re: [NTG-context] fonts (in luatex) (again)

2008-07-15 Thread Taco Hoekwater

Hi,

Quickly:

Charles P. Schaum wrote:
 That's right; use fondu. Fontforge can read a .dfont (data fork
 resource) but it cannot specify something within that to load without
 user input.

That's ok. It sounds very similar to the .ttc format, and we already
have an interface for that. It will be pretty straightforward to
import the wrapper reader for .dfont disk files into luatex, so you
can expect the wrapper format to be supported within the next month,
not a big deal.

 Then there is the whole issue of encoding because especially the
 Apple .dfont files tend to have a number of named glyphs that Fontforge
 thinks are misplaced.

This can be a problem, but we'll find that out soon enough. I'll
work out some basics with Arthur and get back to you and Andrea
after that.

Best wishes,
Taco
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Re: [NTG-context] fonts (in luatex) (again)

2008-07-15 Thread Diego Depaoli
2008/7/15 Andrea Valle [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 So, I'm testing with the type-doulos.tex file containg this
 \starttypescript [serif] [doulos]
 \setups[font:fallback:roman]
 \definefontsynonym [Serif] [Doulos SIL]
 \stoptypescript
 \starttypescript [serif] [doulos]
 \definefontsynonym [Doulos SIL] [file:DoulosSILR][features=default]
 \stoptypescript
 \starttypescript [doulos]
 \definetypeface [doulos] [rm] [roman] [doulos] [default]
 \stoptypescript
Changing 'roman' with 'serif' it worked for me (do not ask me why).

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