[NTG-context] \startvariables failed after the current update
Hi there, I haven't updated my ConTeXt distribution for a very long time (for the internet connection problem here) and somehow my network worked, so I use ctxtools --update to make an update. During the updating, I got some error message like I can't find mult-def.tex and some other files more. Weird, because I do have those files and kpsewhich can locate them. I just input the needed files WITH the path and seemed OK. To make sure, I made another ctxtools --update and this time no error messages. Anyway, I compiled a used-to-be-working file and failed because some Undefined control sequence and I found the undefined macros are the \c!xxx and \v!yyy macros which I defined them in \startvariables all yyy: yyy \stopvariables \startconstants all xxx: xxx \stopconstants any explanations? -- Best Regards Chen Zhi-chu Chen | Shanghai Synchrotron Radiation Facility No. 2019 | Jialuo Rd. | Jiading | Shanghai | P.R. China tel: 086 21 5955 3405 | zhichu.chen.googlepages.com | www.sinap.ac.cn ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Load context format at runtime (from luatex)
Mildred Ki'Lya wrote: I want to be able to tun a TeX document which uses macros that are specific to the document I create. And I would like to separate the macros from the actual document. you can define your own commands on top of context (as long as you don't overload essential low level macros) - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] \startvariables failed after the current update
Zhichu Chen wrote:
Hi there,
I haven't updated my ConTeXt distribution for a very long time (for
the internet connection problem here) and somehow my network
worked, so I use ctxtools --update to make an update. During the
updating, I got some error message like I can't find mult-def.tex
and some other files more. Weird, because I do have those files
and kpsewhich can locate them. I just input the needed files WITH
the path and seemed OK. To make sure, I made another ctxtools --update
and this time no error messages.
Anyway, I compiled a used-to-be-working file and failed because
some Undefined control sequence and I found the undefined
macros are the \c!xxx and \v!yyy macros which I defined them
in
\startvariables all
yyy: yyy
\stopvariables
\startconstants all
xxx: xxx
\stopconstants
any explanations?
sure, that interface has gone
\setinterfacevariable{yyy}{yyy}
\setinterfaceconstant{xxx}{xxx}
-
Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE
Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands
tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com
| www.pragma-pod.nl
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Re: [NTG-context] \startvariables failed after the current update
Oops. Thanks. Although I think it would be much simpler if we can do this
by using comma lists.
On Tue, Oct 28, 2008 at 8:30 AM, Hans Hagen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Zhichu Chen wrote:
Hi there,
I haven't updated my ConTeXt distribution for a very long time (for
the internet connection problem here) and somehow my network
worked, so I use ctxtools --update to make an update. During the
updating, I got some error message like I can't find mult-def.tex
and some other files more. Weird, because I do have those files
and kpsewhich can locate them. I just input the needed files WITH
the path and seemed OK. To make sure, I made another ctxtools --update
and this time no error messages.
Anyway, I compiled a used-to-be-working file and failed because
some Undefined control sequence and I found the undefined
macros are the \c!xxx and \v!yyy macros which I defined them
in
\startvariables all
yyy: yyy
\stopvariables
\startconstants all
xxx: xxx
\stopconstants
any explanations?
sure, that interface has gone
\setinterfacevariable{yyy}{yyy}
\setinterfaceconstant{xxx}{xxx}
-
Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE
Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands
tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com
| www.pragma-pod.nl
-
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Best Regards
Chen
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Re: [NTG-context] tikz and metapost
On Sun, Oct 26, 2008 at 4:24 PM, Alan BRASLAU wrote: Following some exchange off-list (trying to figure out how tikz under context got broken), the subject of understanding pgf/tikz with respect to metapost came up. I am posting a follow-up here as it may be of interest to others on the mailing list, those who know metapost very well as well as those, like myself, who are still learning how to use different graphics tools. On Sunday 26 October 2008 11:46:22 Mojca Miklavec wrote: I am just starting to learn about metapost, and I can't judge yet what pgf/tikz has as advantages and disadvantages. Advantages of TikZ: 1.) many many many many libraries that are ready-to-use. Just take a glimpse through the manual and it will be evident to you in the first glimpse. If you want to draw a graph, you can do it with a few commands. (one command draws you axis, one for function, ...) You can achieve the same with metapost, but you need to do everything from scratch. However, it's really easy to write your own libraries. 2.) some special effects like smooth shading works in metapost only conditionally (does not work with XeTeX at the moment), and you have a wider range with TikZ Advantages of metapost: 1.) rich mathematical machinery (you can write a set of equations and metapost will calculate your coordinates) 2.) easy to write your own macros I thought that a major interest of pgf/tikz was the production of portable graphics (using many different motors). Right. That's also true, but portability is more about the source code of TikZ only had to be written once and you only need to learn it once when you write with both LaTeX and ConTeXt. Usually you don't need to exchange the same figures between LaTeX and ConTeXt documents anyway. But if you do need to convert, portable code indeed helps a lot. As an experiment, I did try comparing making a graph using pgfplot and metagraph, and I did *not* like the result of the second. metagraph is old as earth. graph.mp,v 1.2 2004/09/19 Current estimates place the age of the earth at around 4.6 billion years... Compared to 4.6 billion years it would not matter, but I guess that mpgraph has been written by Hobby, and the most recent reference that he's quoting is from 1994. The date you see might be as trivial thing as Karl Berry adding the svn id on top of file (though I would not know it). And in computers 14 years with (almost) no modification ... speaks for itself. If I draw graphs is meapost, I do that manually. Or I use gnuplot module to draw graphs for me, but graph drawing is much easier more flexible with TikZ if you have datapoints ready. I myself find gnuplot to be fatally flawed and have never liked using it. Flawed with/like? (I started using it since I didn't need to bother about anything. It just worked out of the box. I don't like most terminals, but with the right terminal it's quite ok.) (I still sometimes produce graphics using an old program written in KR C that generates HPGL for pen plotters, with a filter that then creates postscript. Now THAT is almost stone age! But this program can also handle an arbitrary number of points VERY efficiently, only limited by the size of your storage device.) And by the memory your printer has when you try to print that file ... :) :) :) (I need to draw some scatter plots now and need to figure a way to forget about all the tools that I know for creating nice vector plots ... Back to the nice old bitmaps!) If you need some complex curve, TikZ is improving in that area, but in metapost it's out-of-the-box to draw it. Why did Till Tantau write pgf/tikz? Clearly he knew metapost, so another route could have been to develop a standard library of metapost macros. Before mplib came to existance metapost meant that TeX had to: - write mp code into file - run metapost to convert your file into PostScript - run other TeX jobs in background in order to get labels on MP figures And that is *awfuly* slow when you have to process multiple graphics with some text labels. Apart from that, you need to have some switch enabled (write18) that means a security issue when other people submit code to your server. The way TikZ is implemented runs faster than metapost with old-fashioned labels in mkii. Metapost in mkiv is comparable - you don't need any external program to generate graphics. What Till Tantau did whas bringing portability and efficiency of drawing into all formats and all engines of TeX. With a standard library for metapost he wouldn't gain on portability/efficiency, though he could clearly implement a library of the same strength much easier. TikZ is now *the* choice for drawing anything in (La)TeX. I'm asking these questions here as there seems to be a preference (or prejudice) towards metapost amongst the context community. - TikZ is rather new - Hans has a large collection of own macros already (everything that he ever needed), so there's no point of
Re: [NTG-context] \startvariables failed after the current update
Zhichu Chen wrote: Oops. Thanks. Although I think it would be much simpler if we can do this by using comma lists. (1) slow (2) when another interface is added, we need to extend all commalists (say that you want a chinese user interface) (3) we now generate definitions from lua tables Hans - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Colored labels with MetaPost in MkII
On Mon, 27 Oct 2008, Wolfgang Schuster wrote:
On Fri, Oct 24, 2008 at 2:15 PM, Aditya Mahajan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Fri, 24 Oct 2008, Wolfgang Schuster wrote:
Hi all,
what is the best method to format MetaPost labels in MkII with
\doattributes.
\startMPenvironment[global]
\setupcolors[state=start]
\def\labelstyle{bold}
\def\labelcolor{red}
\stopMPenvironment
This gives you only bold label.
\starttext
\startMPcode
label(textext(\doattributes{label}{style}{color}{Label}),origin) ;
\stopMPcode
\stoptext
Tex colors do not work inside textext. Try
label(textext(\startcolor[red] red \stopcolor), origin) ;
One way to get around this is to use \sometxt.
label(\sometxt{\doattributes{label}{style}{color}{Label}},(5cm,0)) ;
But then you have to be careful about the differences between \sometxt in
MKII and MKIV (which I need to summarize on the wiki).
Here is a new example where I can't even use \sometxt.
Sometxt does not work appear to work with \startMPdrawing (there is
no output at all). I think that the reason is that MPdrawing simply writes
stuff to the MPfile without doing the extra work needed for sometxt.
I will call this is a bug, but I do not know if Hans wants to work on
TeX-MP interaction in MKII now.
\setupcolors[state=start]
\def\labelstyle{bold}
\def\labelcolor{red}
\starttext
\resetMPdrawing
\startMPdrawing
label(textext(\doattributes{label}{style}{color}{Label}),origin) ;
label(\sometxt{\doattributes{label}{style}{color}{Label}},origin) ;
\stopMPdrawing
\MPdrawingdonetrue
\getMPdrawing
\stoptext
It may be possible to write your macros without \start-stop-MPdrawing.
Everything inside \start-stop MP(code|graphic) is first parsed by TeX, so
you can do things like
\newif\ifcircle \circletrue
\startMPcode
draw \ifcircle fullcircle \else fullsquare \fi xyscaled (5cm,5cm) ;
\stopMPcode
So, instead of writing stuff to MP using start-stop MPdrawing, you can
simply set some flags in conditionals and chardefs, and then write one
MP(graphic|code) to write one MP file. This strategy will not work for all
cases, but can be useful for some.
Aditya
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Re: [NTG-context] PhD Thesis in ConTeXt
On Tue, 28 Oct 2008, Mohamed Bana wrote: Hi Aditya, I've tried compiling your thesis. It failed with; There were a few modules which were missings from the zip file. I have created a new zip file with these files. I hope that everything should compile now. http://www.eecs.umich.edu/~adityam/publications/thesis/thesis.tar.gz texmfstart texexec thesis.tex system : module abr-aditya not found I have added this system : module ctags not found This is harmless. A module that I wrote to write tag files for vim, but it does not work with MKIV. system : module mathsets not found I have added this. You can also download it from modules.contextgarden.net/mathsets. Aditya Aditya Mahajan wrote: On Tue, 21 Oct 2008, Piotr wrote: Hello, I have spent some time with google in order to find an answer to the following questions. Unfortunatly, I was not satisfied with the answers, which I now hope to find here. It is my plan not to use the MS Office suite for the production of my PhD thesis (in chemistry). I have used Miktex some years ago during my studies for some project reports, and I remember beeing quite satisfied with the results. My Master thesis, on the other hand, I wrote in word.. and although I remember not having too many difficulties, there were some nasty obstacles to be overcome. Obstacles which I simply do not want to risk having repeated a second time on a much bigger scale. I this mailing list I read several reports of people who either had written their thesis in Latex or ConTeXt. There was a mention of Latex beeing designed for mathematic purposes, while ConTeXt was said to be better suited for the intergration of graphics or larger/more complex layout changes. 1) Finding the right context For now I had quite some difficulties to find that proper Latex distribution - a problem that actually led me to the existence of ConTeXt. I am wondering which latex distribution I should choose in order to work with ConTeXt? I am running Windows Vista (64-bit). Or is there a ConTeXt stand alone package that will absolutely satisfy my me in my needs? In principle, all I need is 2) The right editor What is the preferred editor for ConTeXt? for such a project? Is there any loss in functionality when using Texniccenter with ConTeXt than with MikTex instead? Depends on what functions you need. There are a few editors which have basic support for ConTeXt (compile document, view pdf, jump to error, etc.). Hans uses Scite and includes a context enabled scite in the windows distribution available on prama-ade.com. Irdis has written support for Notepad++. Vim and emacs have some basic support. I do not know what features texniccenter and winedit provide for context. 3) I have seen some thesis templates/examples in this mailinglist. Can anyone point me to additional sources regarding the creation of a PhD Thesis with ConTeXt? Each institute has different requirements for phd thesis, so one template is not going to fit the bill. I did my thesis in context, and you can have a look at the sources and the output: http://www.eecs.umich.edu/~adityam/publications/thesis/thesis.pdf http://www.eecs.umich.edu/~adityam/publications/thesis/thesis.tar.gz The easier way to go about this will be to look at the formatting specifications of the thesis, and try to understand how to implement them in context one by one. What is the advantage over Latex, what are the disadvantages? Is there a win-win distribution somewhere on the table? Advantage: In most cases, others have written a style for what you want, so you don't have to create a style on your own. Disadvantage: When you do have to create a style on your own, it can be difficult, even in packages which are supposed to be easy to configure 4) Has anyone used a typesetting suite like ContTeXt with CVS? As others have said, the source files are simply text files. So you can use any version control that you want. 5) Is the ConTeXt reference system compatible with Endnote? I have no experience with endnote. I have seen endnote to bibtex converters. If you can convert to bibtex, then using the references with context is relatively easy. Is there any point to have latex installed, when context can do the trick? As Mojca said, you may want to submit something to a journal which accepts latex files. Or lets ask the devils advocate the other way around: What is the point of installing context, when latex could do the trick? Again I agree with what Mojca said. If latex can do the job, use it. If you are happy with one of the defaul latex styles, do not use too many figures in your document, do not want text wrapping around figures, use latex. Apart that I have to re-learn latex anyway.. what is better with Context? Context has a more consistent interface to all the commands. This makes it easier to remember how to configure things. Aditya
