[NTG-context] Copy Paste chinese in PDF files
hi, I'm thinking now whether change from latex to context. As I know, both latex and context support the chinese language, but like in Latex, there is a problem with generated PDF, that is, the chinese words can not be copied and pasted correctly as the english words, how about this function in context? Anyway, this does not work in the provided manuals and examples! appreciate for any tips! Yu Yi ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Copy Paste chinese in PDF files
Nihao Yi, 2008/12/10 Yu Yi [EMAIL PROTECTED] hi, I'm thinking now whether change from latex to context. As I know, both latex and context support the chinese language, but like in Latex, there is a problem with generated PDF, that is, the chinese words can not be copied and pasted correctly as the english words, how about this function in context? Anyway, this does not work in the provided manuals and examples! appreciate for any tips! Using luatex there should be no problem. My file: % engine=luatex \font\kaiti=name:kaiti at 140pt\kaiti \starttext 人之初，\par 性本善。\par 性相近，\par 习相远。 \stoptext After running luatex i can copy and paste all characters into for instance Babelpad. Greetings Lutz Yu Yi ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___ ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] mptopdf
David Arnold wrote:
All, I sent this to OS X TeX list, but perhaps I can get some guidance
here?
All,
After installing MacTeX (textlve2008), mptopdf fails:
pstricks $ mptopdf bruce
This is pdfTeXk, Version 3.1415926-1.40.9 (Web2C 7.5.7)
%-line parsing enabled.
[MP to PDF]
(./bruce.0{/Users/darnold/Library/texmf/fonts/map/pdftex/updmap/pdf
tex.map}) [1]
kpathsea: Running mktexpk --mfmode / --bdpi 600 --mag 1+0/600 --dpi 600
rm-lmr12
mktexpk: don't know how to create bitmap font for rm-lmr12.
Looks like you should install or update the Latin Modern font package.
Best wishes,
Taco
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[NTG-context] startconstants broken
Upgrading seems to have broken \startconstants (and probably also
\startvariables). The code below worked in cont-tmf version 2008-08-05
but no longer in 2008-10-31:
\startconstants all
spine:spine
% etcetera
\stopconstants
\startvariables all
% etcetera
\stopvariables
The error is:
! Undefined control sequence.
argument \c!spine
=\v!none
\xprocesscommaitem #1,#2-\if ,#1
,[EMAIL PROTECTED] \xprocesscommaitem \else
\if [EMAIL PROTECTED]
argument ...=\v!cd ,\c!spine =\v!none ,\c!state
=\v!draft ,\c!
output =\v!p...
\xdogetparameters #1]-\xprocesscommaitem #1
,],[EMAIL PROTECTED]@
l.162 ]
Addition of \def\c!spine{} makes the error go away.
So definitely something is broken in the latter release for the start-
macro(s).
Could there be given a quick fix sothat I can avoid reverting back to
the earlier version or adding changes all ver the place?
Hans van der Meer
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Re: [NTG-context] startconstants broken
Hans van der Meer wrote: Upgrading seems to have broken \startconstants (and probably also \startvariables). The code below worked in cont-tmf version 2008-08-05 but no longer in 2008-10-31: See http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Release_Notes#Context_2008.10.31 Have a look at the included t-bib.tex for the new format. Best wishes, Taco ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] trick
The next trick is dedicated to Aditya ...
% engine=luatex
\unprotect
\def\Hack#1#2%
{\pdfliteral{/Span /ActualText
\ctxlua{pdf.hexify(\!!bs\detokenize{#1}\!!es)} BDC}#2\pdfliteral{EMC}}
\protect
\def\Formula#1{\Hack{#1}{$#1$}}
\startTEXpage[offset=3pt]
test \Formula{e + a = mc^2 + \alpha} test
\blank[2*big]
\Formula{e + a = mc^2 + \alpha}
\blank[2*big]
$e + a = mc^2 + \alpha$
\stopTEXpage
\stoptext
try to cut and paste the math ... (only acrobat and actually acrobat is
a bit bugged in this respect but the idea is there)
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[NTG-context] inconsistent TABLE and figure top-placement
Hi, I just go mad with a grid based document that contains several naturalTABLEs and figures. When I want to place those at the top of the page, their top edge is sometimes higher, sometimes lower than expected. Experimenting with different figure height (and different heights of the first row of the tables) showed that these values move the float up or down!! The result looks very bad (jumping up, jumping down) ... Thus, two urgent questions: 1) How can I force that the top edge is always exactly (!) at the same vertical position, same for ALL tables and figures? 2) If 1) is impossible: How can I manually move a textwidth table/figure the should be placed top a little bit vertically (like +/- 2pt)? Thanks, Steffen ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Copy Paste chinese in PDF files
2008/12/10 Yu Yi [EMAIL PROTECTED]: hi, I'm thinking now whether change from latex to context. As I know, both latex and context support the chinese language, but like in Latex, there is a problem with generated PDF, that is, the chinese words can not be copied and pasted correctly as the english words, how about this function in context? Anyway, this does not work in the provided manuals and examples! I have written a simple note of ConTeXt MkIV in Chinese, which maybe is helpful for you . You can download it from http://code.google.com/p/way2ctx/downloads/list I would plan to write new one and try my best to make it as a tutorial of MkIV. I hope I can finishe it in spring of next year. -- Best wishes, Li Yanrui ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Copy Paste chinese in PDF files
Am Wed, 10 Dec 2008 13:28:51 +0100 schrieb Yu Yi: hi, I'm thinking now whether change from latex to context. As I know, both latex and context support the chinese language, but like in Latex, there is a problem with generated PDF, that is, the chinese words can not be copied and pasted correctly as the english words, how about this function in context? This is not so much a question of the format (LaTeX or context) but of the underlying engines and the fonts. E.g. dvidpfmx seems to do it fine, but pdftex needs special map files: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/msg00221.html The unicode orientated engines xetex (with latex or context) or luatex (for which adequate support exists currently only in context) will probably work out of the box. -- Ulrike Fischer ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] ! Extra \else error
Hi Bart
On Thu, Dec 11, 2008 at 9:50 PM, Bart C. Wise
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
When I run the code below (via minimals), I get the following error, why?
enter loop
! Extra \else.
\@@plniterate ...\expandafter \@@plniterate \else
\fi
\myloop ...by 1 \ifnum \tempcnta #1\else \repeat
I think the loop structure should be:
\loop ... \if... ... \repeat
\fi \message {exit}
l.16 \myloop{2008}
Code:
\newcount\startcnt
\newcount\tempcnta
\def\myloop#1{%
\message{enter}
\tempcnta=\the\startcnt%
\loop
\message{loop}
\advance \tempcnta by 1
\ifnum\tempcnta#1\else \repeat\fi
\message{exit}
}
\starttext
\startcnt=1800
\myloop{2008}
\stoptext
Thanks,
Bart
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[NTG-context] ! Extra \else error
When I run the code below (via minimals), I get the following error, why?
enter loop
! Extra \else.
\@@plniterate ...\expandafter \@@plniterate \else
\fi
\myloop ...by 1 \ifnum \tempcnta #1\else \repeat
\fi \message {exit}
l.16 \myloop{2008}
Code:
\newcount\startcnt
\newcount\tempcnta
\def\myloop#1{%
\message{enter}
\tempcnta=\the\startcnt%
\loop
\message{loop}
\advance \tempcnta by 1
\ifnum\tempcnta#1\else \repeat\fi
\message{exit}
}
\starttext
\startcnt=1800
\myloop{2008}
\stoptext
Thanks,
Bart
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Re: [NTG-context] ! Extra \else error
Zhichu Chen wrote:
Hi Bart
On Thu, Dec 11, 2008 at 9:50 PM, Bart C. Wise
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
When I run the code below (via minimals), I get the following error, why?
enter loop
! Extra \else.
\@@plniterate ...\expandafter \@@plniterate \else
\fi
\myloop ...by 1 \ifnum \tempcnta #1\else \repeat
I think the loop structure should be:
\loop ... \if... ... \repeat
just use:
\doloop {
\ifwhateveryoulike
\exitloop
\fi
}
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Re: [NTG-context] ! Extra \else error
On Thursday 11 December 2008 07:17:51 am Hans Hagen wrote:
Zhichu Chen wrote:
Hi Bart
On Thu, Dec 11, 2008 at 9:50 PM, Bart C. Wise
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
When I run the code below (via minimals), I get the following error,
why?
enter loop
! Extra \else.
\@@plniterate ...\expandafter \@@plniterate \else
\fi
\myloop ...by 1 \ifnum \tempcnta #1\else \repeat
I think the loop structure should be:
\loop ... \if... ... \repeat
just use:
\doloop {
\ifwhateveryoulike
\exitloop
\fi
Hans,
Thanks, that works. But shouldn't the other one work as well? Is there
something wrong with the syntax?
Bart
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Re: [NTG-context] ! Extra \else error
Bart C. Wise wrote:
On Thursday 11 December 2008 07:17:51 am Hans Hagen wrote:
Zhichu Chen wrote:
Hi Bart
On Thu, Dec 11, 2008 at 9:50 PM, Bart C. Wise
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
When I run the code below (via minimals), I get the following error,
why?
enter loop
! Extra \else.
\@@plniterate ...\expandafter \@@plniterate \else
\fi
\myloop ...by 1 \ifnum \tempcnta #1\else \repeat
I think the loop structure should be:
\loop ... \if... ... \repeat
just use:
\doloop {
\ifwhateveryoulike
\exitloop
\fi
Hans,
Thanks, that works. But shouldn't the other one work as well? Is there
something wrong with the syntax?
you cannot use else in plain's loop macro; nor can you use it nested;
it's just the way the plain loop macro is defined
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Re: [NTG-context] ! Extra \else error
On Thursday 11 December 2008 07:29:15 am Zhichu Chen wrote:
Hi Bart,
On Thu, Dec 11, 2008 at 10:21 PM, Bart C. Wise
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
If I change the loop to be the following, I still get the same error:
\def\myloop#1{%
\tempcnta=\the\startcnt%
\loop
\advance \tempcnta by 1
\if\tempcnta=#1\else \repeat\fi
}
Bart
No, you should define like:
\def\myloop#1{%
\tempcnta=\the\startcnt%
\loop
\advance \tempcnta by 1
\if\tempcnta#1\repeat
}
No \else before \repeat in this case and no \fi outside the loop.
Taking a look at the definition, you could find the following
code (something like that, I can't remember clearly):
\def\loop#1\repeat{\def\body{#1}\iterate}
\def\iterate{something to do with \body}
You can see there should not be an extra \else in the \body, and
you don't need the \fi to enclose it.
I don't know whether I've made my point clear.
Chen,
Thanks. That makes sense now. However, when I take your code and run it, it
only goes through 1 iteration of the loop and exits. I'm puzzled.
Bart
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Re: [NTG-context] ! Extra \else error
On Thu, 11 Dec 2008, Aditya Mahajan wrote:
On Thu, 11 Dec 2008, Bart C. Wise wrote:
When I run the code below (via minimals), I get the following error, why?
\newcount\startcnt
\newcount\tempcnta
\def\myloop#1{%
\message{enter}
\tempcnta=\the\startcnt%
\loop
\message{loop}
\advance \tempcnta by 1
\ifnum\tempcnta#1\else \repeat\fi
\message{exit}
}
\starttext
\startcnt=1800
\myloop{2008}
\stoptext
Do you know of \dostepwiserecurse{from}{to}{step}{body}. For example,
\starttext
\dostepwiserecurse{1800}{2008}{1}{We are at \recurselevel \endgraf}
\stoptext
There is also doloop. Documentations from syst-ext.tex
%D \macros
%D {doloop,exitloop}
%D
%D Sometimes loops are not determined by counters, but by
%D (a combinations of) conditions. We therefore implement a
%D straightforward loop, which can only be left when we
%D explictly exit it. Nesting is supported. First we present
%D a more extensive alternative.
%D
%D \starttyping
%D \doloop
%D {Some kind of typesetting punishment \par
%D\ifnum\pageno100 \exitloop \fi}
%D \stoptyping
%D
%D When needed, one can call for \type{\looplevel} and
%D \type{\loopdepth}.
[...]
%D We don't have to declare new counters for \type{\looplevel}
%D and \type{\loopdepth} because we can use \type{\recurselevel}
%D and \type{\recursedepth}.
(although I could not get recurselevel or looplevel to work)
[...]
%D The loop is executed at least once, so beware of situations
%D like:
%D
%D \starttyping
%D \doloop {\exitloop some commands}
%D \stoptyping
%D
%D It's just a matter of putting the text into the \type{\if}
%D statement that should be there anyway, like in:
%D
%D \starttyping
%D \doloop {\ifwhatever \exitloop \else some commands\fi}
%D \stoptyping
%D
%D You can also quit a loop immediately, by using \type
%D {\exitloopnow} instead. Beware, this is more sensitive
%D for conditional errors.
So, you can write your example as (changed the stopping condition to add
\else, just to illustrate that it works)
\newcount\startcnt
\newcount\tempcnta
\def\myloop#1{%
\message{enter}
\tempcnta=\the\startcnt%
\doloop{
\message{loop \the\tempcnta}
\advance \tempcnta by 1
\ifnum\tempcnta#1 \else \exitloop \fi}
\message{exit} }
\starttext
\startcnt=1800
\myloop{2009}
\stoptext
Aditya
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Re: [NTG-context] ! Extra \else error
On Thursday 11 December 2008 08:28:40 am Zhichu Chen wrote:
Hi Bart,
On Thu, Dec 11, 2008 at 11:05 PM, Bart C. Wise
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Chen,
Thanks. That makes sense now. However, when I take your code and run
it, it only goes through 1 iteration of the loop and exits. I'm puzzled.
Bart
Really? 'cause when I run the following code
===
\newcount\startcnt
\newcount\tempcnta
\def\myloop#1{%
\message{enter}
\tempcnta=\the\startcnt%
\loop
\message{loop}
\advance \tempcnta by 1
\ifnum\tempcnta#1 \repeat
\message{exit}}
\starttext
\startcnt=1800
\myloop{2008}
\stoptext
===
I got
===
systems: begin file test2 at line 14
enter loop loop loop loop loop loop loop loop loop loop loop loop loop
loop loop loop loop loop loop loop loop loop loop loop loop loop loop
loop loop loop loop loop loop loop loop loop loop loop loop loop loop
loop loop loop loop loop loop loop loop loop loop loop loop loop loop
loop loop loop loop loop loop loop loop loop loop loop loop loop loop
loop loop loop loop loop loop loop loop loop loop loop loop loop loop
loop loop loop loop loop loop loop loop loop loop loop loop loop loop
loop loop loop loop loop loop loop loop loop loop loop loop loop loop
loop loop loop loop loop loop loop loop loop loop loop loop loop loop
loop loop loop loop loop loop loop loop loop loop loop loop loop loop
loop loop loop loop loop loop loop loop loop loop loop loop loop loop
loop loop loop loop loop loop loop loop loop loop loop loop loop loop
loop loop loop loop loop loop loop loop loop loop loop loop loop loop
loop loop loop loop loop loop loop loop loop loop loop loop loop loop
loop loop loop loop loop loop loop loop loop loop loop loop loop exit
systems: end file test2 at line 20
)
===
which infers it works for me.
Anyway, I recommand you take the advanced interface as Hans has suggested.
It's easier to use, makes more sense and is more ConTeXt-like.
Chen,
Just to make sure I wasn't going too insane, I took your code and ran it. It
worked. The difference is that in the previous email you sent, you had the
code like this:
\if\tempcnta#1\repeat
instead of this newer one:
\ifnum\tempcnta#1\repeat
That's why it didn't work.
Thanks to all!
Bart
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Re: [NTG-context] ! Extra \else error
On Thu, 11 Dec 2008, Bart C. Wise wrote:
When I run the code below (via minimals), I get the following error, why?
\newcount\startcnt
\newcount\tempcnta
\def\myloop#1{%
\message{enter}
\tempcnta=\the\startcnt%
\loop
\message{loop}
\advance \tempcnta by 1
\ifnum\tempcnta#1\else \repeat\fi
\message{exit}
}
\starttext
\startcnt=1800
\myloop{2008}
\stoptext
Do you know of \dostepwiserecurse{from}{to}{step}{body}. For example,
\starttext
\dostepwiserecurse{1800}{2008}{1}{We are at \recurselevel \endgraf}
\stoptext
Aditya
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Re: [NTG-context] ! Extra \else error
Am Thu, 11 Dec 2008 07:21:56 -0700 schrieb Bart C. Wise:
If I change the loop to be the following, I still get the same error:
\def\myloop#1{%
\tempcnta=\the\startcnt%
\loop
\advance \tempcnta by 1
\if\tempcnta=#1\else \repeat\fi
}
No, the \repeat take the place of the \fi. Also you should always end
numbers with a space or a \relax to avoid trouble due to tex trying to
expand the following commands in search for more numbers.
\newcount\startcnt
\newcount\tempcnta
\def\myloop#1{%
\tempcnta=\the\startcnt\relax%
\loop
\the\tempcnta,
\advance \tempcnta by 1
\ifnum\tempcnta#1
\repeat
}
\myloop{10}
--
Ulrike Fischer
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Re: [NTG-context] ! Extra \else error
On Thursday 11 December 2008 08:10:38 am Ulrike Fischer wrote:
Am Thu, 11 Dec 2008 07:21:56 -0700 schrieb Bart C. Wise:
If I change the loop to be the following, I still get the same error:
\def\myloop#1{%
\tempcnta=\the\startcnt%
\loop
\advance \tempcnta by 1
\if\tempcnta=#1\else \repeat\fi
}
No, the \repeat take the place of the \fi. Also you should always end
numbers with a space or a \relax to avoid trouble due to tex trying to
expand the following commands in search for more numbers.
\newcount\startcnt
\newcount\tempcnta
\def\myloop#1{%
\tempcnta=\the\startcnt\relax%
\loop
\the\tempcnta,
\advance \tempcnta by 1
\ifnum\tempcnta#1
\repeat
}
\myloop{10}
Excellent. Thanks Ulrike. This fixes the original problem!
Bart
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Re: [NTG-context] ! Extra \else error
Hi Bart,
On Thu, Dec 11, 2008 at 11:05 PM, Bart C. Wise
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Chen,
Thanks. That makes sense now. However, when I take your code and run it, it
only goes through 1 iteration of the loop and exits. I'm puzzled.
Bart
Really? 'cause when I run the following code
===
\newcount\startcnt
\newcount\tempcnta
\def\myloop#1{%
\message{enter}
\tempcnta=\the\startcnt%
\loop
\message{loop}
\advance \tempcnta by 1
\ifnum\tempcnta#1 \repeat
\message{exit}}
\starttext
\startcnt=1800
\myloop{2008}
\stoptext
===
I got
===
systems: begin file test2 at line 14
enter loop loop loop loop loop loop loop loop loop loop loop loop loop
loop loop loop loop loop loop loop loop loop loop loop loop loop loop
loop loop loop loop loop loop loop loop loop loop loop loop loop loop
loop loop loop loop loop loop loop loop loop loop loop loop loop loop
loop loop loop loop loop loop loop loop loop loop loop loop loop loop
loop loop loop loop loop loop loop loop loop loop loop loop loop loop
loop loop loop loop loop loop loop loop loop loop loop loop loop loop
loop loop loop loop loop loop loop loop loop loop loop loop loop loop
loop loop loop loop loop loop loop loop loop loop loop loop loop loop
loop loop loop loop loop loop loop loop loop loop loop loop loop loop
loop loop loop loop loop loop loop loop loop loop loop loop loop loop
loop loop loop loop loop loop loop loop loop loop loop loop loop loop
loop loop loop loop loop loop loop loop loop loop loop loop loop loop
loop loop loop loop loop loop loop loop loop loop loop loop loop loop
loop loop loop loop loop loop loop loop loop loop loop loop loop exit
systems: end file test2 at line 20
)
===
which infers it works for me.
Anyway, I recommand you take the advanced interface as Hans has suggested.
It's easier to use, makes more sense and is more ConTeXt-like.
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Re: [NTG-context] how to get thick and thin borders working in tables (ConTeXt)
On 12/10/2008 4:05 AM, Wolfgang Schuster wrote:
On Wed, Dec 10, 2008 at 7:07 AM, Lars Huttar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
...
However, when I try to mix double frames with single frames, I'm having
trouble. Here is what I tried, in order to get a cell with double frame
on the left, and single frame everywhere else:
\startuseMPgraphic{table:frame:Lrtb} % left border is double
draw leftboundary OverlayBox enlarged \the\dimexpr\linewidth*1\relax ; %
outer frame
draw leftboundary OverlayBox enlarged -\the\dimexpr\linewidth*2\relax ;
% inner frame
draw rightboundary OverlayBox enlarged -\the\dimexpr\linewidth/2\relax ;
draw topboundary OverlayBox enlarged -\the\dimexpr\linewidth/2\relax ;
draw bottomboundary OverlayBox enlarged -\the\dimexpr\linewidth/2\relax ;
setbounds currentpicture to OverlayBox ;
\stopuseMPgraphic
Now the graphic has double line on the left and a single line elsewhere.
However, the lines are thicker than in the previous one... about twice
as thick, too heavy for our requirements. And I can't tell why. This is
true on all four sides.
See http://www.huttar.net/lars-kathy/tmp/test-mp-tableframe.pdf, second
table.
Also, on the side that has double lines, the double lines don't go all
the way to the top and bottom (see same pdf, second table), so that the
double line is not continuous across multiple rows.
Any suggestions?
The above graphic is used as follows...
\start
\setupTABLE[c][first][background={table:frame:Lrtb}]
\getbuffer
\stop
\startuseMPgraphic{table:frame:all}
draw OverlayBox enlarged -0.2 ;
setbounds currentpicture to OverlayBox ;
\stopuseMPgraphic
\startuseMPgraphic{table:frame:leftdouble}
draw OverlayBox leftenlarged 2 topenlarged -0.2 bottomenlarged -0.2
rightenlarged -0.2 ;
setbounds currentpicture to OverlayBox ;
\stopuseMPgraphic
\defineoverlay[table:frame:all][\useMPgraphic{table:frame:all}]
\defineoverlay[table:frame:leftdouble][\useMPgraphic{table:frame:leftdouble}]
\starttext
\startbuffer
\bTABLE[frame=off,offset=2ex]
\bTR
\bTD One \eTD
\bTD Two \eTD
\bTD Three \eTD
\eTR
\bTR
\bTD Four \eTD
\bTD Five \eTD
\bTD Six \eTD
\eTR
\bTR
\bTD Seven \eTD
\bTD Eight \eTD
\bTD Nine \eTD
\eTR
\eTABLE
\stopbuffer
\start
\setupTABLE[background={table:frame:all}]
\setupTABLE[c][first][background={table:frame:all,table:frame:leftdouble}]
\getbuffer
\stop
\stoptext
Wolfgang
This fixes the problems I mentioned in my previous email. Thanks again
for that!
Unfortunately, when I generalize it, it takes us back to producing
triple borders between adjacent cells. I think this is inevitable when
overlaying a double frame (for certain sides) on top of a single frame
for all sides, because a double side overlaid on a single side cannot be
centered (or else the single line shows through separately from the
double line).
So my fix... which I'm posting here in hopes that someone may refine it,
and for the benefit of others who may attempt similar things... is to
center the double frames between the cells and avoid overlaying a double
frame side over a single frame side.
We center borders between the cells by using enlarged values -0.2 +/-
k, i.e. center around -0.2. I'm not sure why -0.2 works better than
zero, but it does... Doing this makes coincident border lines from
adjacent cells look like ordinary single lines instead of being extra
thick. We settled on k = 0.6 to get the desired distance between our
double lines. Incidentally, I wish I knew how to put -0.2, 0.2-k, and
-0.2+k into variables or something so that they could all be changed in
one place, instead of hard-coded in many places. Maybe somebody can help
me there.
A cost of this single-overlay-per-cell approach is that we have to
specify individually the 16 possible overlays (combinations of single
and double edges) for any possible cell. But that's not too bad, as we
only have to define them once. (In practice, we also had to define a
couple of special cases where we needed some cells with open edges for a
faked rowspan. We haven't completely got those working yet.)
An unexpected and potentially large benefit of this approach is that for
each cell, we only generate one MPgraphic (apparently because we only
use one overlay per cell), which should make the TeX run much faster,
and avoid running over the maxnumMPgraphics limit. With the
multiple-overlay-per-cell approach, we ended up using about 13,000
MPgraphics for our document, far beyond the default limit of 4000, and
taking 15 minutes to run compared to 37 seconds for a similar document
without the tables.
Here is our working system... hope it's helpful to somebody:
define MPgraphics for double-ruled tables
% Lars Huttar, 2008-12-09
% Thanks to Wolfgang Schuster on NTG-list
% Each MPgraph (and overlay) is named lrtb, with capitalized letters
indicating which sides are double-ruled.
% Adjacent
Re: [NTG-context] how to get thick and thin borders working in tables (ConTeXt)
On 12/11/2008 3:24 PM, Wolfgang Schuster wrote:
Am 11.12.2008 um 18:05 schrieb Lars Huttar:
We center borders between the cells by using enlarged values -0.2 +/-
k, i.e. center around -0.2. I'm not sure why -0.2 works better than
zero, but it does... Doing this makes coincident border lines from
adjacent cells look like ordinary single lines instead of being extra
thick. We settled on k = 0.6 to get the desired distance between our
double lines. Incidentally, I wish I knew how to put -0.2, 0.2-k, and
-0.2+k into variables or something so that they could all be changed in
one place, instead of hard-coded in many places. Maybe somebody can help
me there.
\startMPinitializations
numeric InnerFrame, MiddleFrame, OuterFrame ;
InnerFrame := 0.2 ;
MiddleFrame := 0.4 ;
OuterFrame := 0.8 ;
\stopMPinitializations
Makes sense.
Thanks... this will make the code clearer and more maintainable.
% 1 double side
\startuseMPgraphic{table:frame:Lrtb} % left double
draw OverlayBox leftenlarged MiddleFrame topenlarged -InnerFrame
bottomenlarged -InnerFrame rightenlarged -InnerFrame ;
draw OverlayBox leftenlarged -OuterFrame topenlarged -InnerFrame
bottomenlarged -InnerFrame rightenlarged -InnerFrame ;
setbounds currentpicture to OverlayBox ;
\stopuseMPgraphic
An unexpected and potentially large benefit of this approach is that for
each cell, we only generate one MPgraphic (apparently because we only
use one overlay per cell), which should make the TeX run much faster,
and avoid running over the maxnumMPgraphics limit. With the
multiple-overlay-per-cell approach, we ended up using about 13,000
MPgraphics for our document, far beyond the default limit of 4000, and
taking 15 minutes to run compared to 37 seconds for a similar document
without the tables.
Use the 'nomprun' switch for texexec
texexec --nomprun --xtx file
ConTeXt collects now all graphics and process them after the TeX run.
Hmm... we tried this, but it doesn't seem to make any obvious difference.
Is this supposed to give a speed improvement? or get around the
maxnumMPgraphics limit?
Thanks again for your help.
Lars
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Re: [NTG-context] [OT] context mascot
Am 12.12.2008 um 00:29 schrieb Aditya Mahajan: On Fri, 12 Dec 2008, luigi scarso wrote: Have we a mascot ? http://chl.be/mascots/ Yes we do. Its the dutch cow :-) http://archive.contextgarden.net/message/20080331.202358.73e0f8dc.en.html Wolfgang ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] [OT] context mascot
On Fri, Dec 12, 2008 at 12:29 AM, Aditya Mahajan adit...@umich.edu wrote: On Fri, 12 Dec 2008, luigi scarso wrote: Have we a mascot ? http://chl.be/mascots/ Yes we do. Its the dutch cow :-) right, damn, I'm getting old BTW I think we should put on the wiki something like this http://melusine.eu.org/syracuse/metapost/animations/poulain/?swf=2 under the logo -- luigi ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] Typography
Dear helpful list, for the first time my work goes at typography and I'm a little worried. There is something I should know/make? Regards -- Diego Depaoli ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Typography
On Fri, Dec 12, 2008 at 8:53 AM, Diego Depaoli trebes...@gmail.com wrote: Dear helpful list, for the first time my work goes at typography and I'm a little worried. There is something I should know/make? Read R.B.'s The Elements of Typography Style. Though it did not touch color issue:) Regards -- Diego Depaoli ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___ ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Copy Paste chinese in PDF files
Hi, Yanrui, Are you sure we should proceed the bibtex manually? (page38 of your version 2) since I run pdfTeX and bibtex, the process can be done automatically using texexec (after the 2006 release, of course). Yue Wang On Thu, Dec 11, 2008 at 8:51 PM, Yanrui Li liyanrui...@gmail.com wrote: 2008/12/10 Yu Yi y...@mathematik.uni-marburg.de: hi, I'm thinking now whether change from latex to context. As I know, both latex and context support the chinese language, but like in Latex, there is a problem with generated PDF, that is, the chinese words can not be copied and pasted correctly as the english words, how about this function in context? Anyway, this does not work in the provided manuals and examples! I have written a simple note of ConTeXt MkIV in Chinese, which maybe is helpful for you . You can download it from http://code.google.com/p/way2ctx/downloads/list I would plan to write new one and try my best to make it as a tutorial of MkIV. I hope I can finishe it in spring of next year. -- Best wishes, Li Yanrui ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___ ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Copy Paste chinese in PDF files
This is not so much a question of the format (LaTeX or context) but of the underlying engines and the fonts. E.g. dvidpfmx seems to do it fine, but pdftex needs special map files: http://www.mail-archive.com/c...@ffii.org/msg00221.html The unicode orientated engines xetex (with latex or context) or luatex (for which adequate support exists currently only in context) will probably work out of the box. also needs to be supported by macros. For example, hyperlink in chinese will broke in XeLaTeX/pdfLaTeX/dvipdfmx with hyperref(even we choose the proper driver). but works fine in XeConTeXt and LuaTeX MKIV. -- Ulrike Fischer ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___ ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Copy Paste chinese in PDF files
2008/12/12 Yue Wang yuleo...@gmail.com: Hi, Yanrui, Are you sure we should proceed the bibtex manually? (page38 of your version 2) since I run pdfTeX and bibtex, the process can be done automatically using texexec (after the 2006 release, of course). Yes, If we use 'context' as compiling command, I'm sure that. -- Best wishes, Li Yanrui ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Copy Paste chinese in PDF files
On Fri, 12 Dec 2008, Yanrui Li wrote: 2008/12/12 Yue Wang yuleo...@gmail.com: Hi, Yanrui, Are you sure we should proceed the bibtex manually? (page38 of your version 2) since I run pdfTeX and bibtex, the process can be done automatically using texexec (after the 2006 release, of course). Yes, If we use 'context' as compiling command, I'm sure that. The new version of t-bib (2008.12.01) runs bibtex automatically even with 'context' command. Aditya ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] help with a latex - context conversion
On Wed, 10 Dec 2008, Zoho Vignochi wrote:
Hello:
I am intending to write my masters thesis using context. My university
publishes a style guide in addition to a latex cls file. I am trying to
reproduce the titlepage. I have been using the wiki (specifically
http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Document_Titles#In_ConTeXt:_A_more_
advanced_solution). But I have not been able to add addition fields
beyond the present title, author, date.
Here is the relevant portion on the latex file.
[latex code snipped]
Any hints?
Thank you for your time,
Here is how I would do it. Most of it is literal translation of latex
commands, using a contextish style.
% Put this in your environment file.
\unprotect
\def\setupthesis
{\dosingleargument\dosetupthesis}
\def\dosetupthesis[#1]%
{\setvariables[thesis][#1]}
\def\setupthesistext
{\dosingleargument\dosetupthesistext}
\def\dosetupthesistext[#1]%
{\setvariables[thesis:text][#1]}
\definefont[ThesisTitleFont][SerifBold sa 1.4]
\setupthesistext
[ submitted={A THESIS SUBMITTED IN PARTIAL FULFILLMENT%
OF THE REQUIREMENTS FOR THE DEGREE OF},
note={by},
academicunit={In the Graduate Academic Unit of},
accepted={This thesis is accepted},
dean={Dean of Graduate Studies},
school={THE UNIVERSITY OF NEW BRUNSWICK},
copyright={Copyright},
]
\setupthesis
[ title=,
author=,
prevdegree=,
academicunit=,
degree=,
supervisor=,
board=,
external=,
year=,
]
\def\placethesistitle
{\startstandardmakeup[top=,bottom=]
\startalignment[middle,broad]
{\ThesisTitleFont\setupinterlinespace
\getvariable{thesis}{title}\endgraf}
\blank[1em]
\getvariable{thesis:text}{note}
\blank[1em]
\getvariable{thesis}{author}
\blank[1em]
\bold{\getvariable{thesis}{prevdegree}}
\blank[2em]
\bold{\getvariable{thesis:text}{submitted}}
\blank[2em]
\bold{\getvariable{thesis}{degree}}
\blank[1em]
\getvariable{thesis}{text:academicunit}\space
\getvariable{thesis}{academicunit}
\blank[1em]
\stopalignment
\starttabulate[|l|l|]
\NC Supervisor(s): \NC \getvariable{thesis}{supervisor} \NC \NR
\NC Examining Board: \NC \getvariable{thesis}{board} \NC \NR
\NC External Examiner: \NC \getvariable{thesis}{external} \NC \NR
\stoptabulate
\startalignment[middle,broad]
\getvariable{thesis:text}{accepted}
\blank[2em]
\getvariable{thesis:text}{dean}
\blank[1em]
\bold{\getvariable{thesis:text}{school}}
\blank[0.5em]
\bold{\getvariable{thesis}{date}}
\blank[0.5em]
\getvariable{thesis}{copyright}\space
\getvariable{thesis}{author},\space\getvariable{thesis}{year}
\stopalignment
\stopstandardmakeup}
\protect
% The main file
\starttext
\setupthesis
[ title={Thesis Title},
author={Joe Doe},
prevdegree={Previous degree},
academicunit={Academic Unit},
degree={Full name of degree},
supervisor={Name of supervisor},
board={Board},
external={External},
year={year},
]
\placethesistitle
\dorecurse{10}{\input knuth \endgraf}
\stoptext
Aditya
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