Re: [NTG-context] [tex-live] Announcing TLContrib
One comment, two questions Taco : C1: Great idea; this project has my wholehearted support. Q1: When you write In short, anything that cannot be on TeX Live but can still legally be distributed over the Internet can have a place on TLContrib., does this not open a hole rather wider than you intended. Should there not be a limitation to anything that can ... and which is relevant to TeX ? Q2: When you write Quick start: to use this site as a TeX Live repository, point the TeX Live package manager to http://tlcontrib.metatex.org/2010. If you want to know more details about using TLContrib, see the using TLContrib page., does this mean that I (and others) can use /solely/ TLContrib henceforth, or will it be necessary to re-point the TeX Live package manager at a normal TL node for some purposes ? ** Phil. ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] [tex-live] Announcing TLContrib
On 8 Oct, 2010, at 13:36, Taco Hoekwater wrote: Hello everybody, Please allow me to introduce a new project: TLContrib. TLContrib is a website + repository that hosts contributed packages for TeX Live 2010. The packages on TLContrib are packages that are not distributed inside TeX Live proper for one or another of following reasons: * because it is not free software according to the Debian guidelines; * because it is a binary update; [...] Quick start: to use TLContrib as a TeX Live repository, point the TeX Live package manager to http://tlcontrib.metatex.org/2010/ Great! I just tried (on a Mac) tlmgr --repository http://tlcontrib.metatex.org/2010/ update --all --list and it gave me a list of binaries to update (ConTeXt, LuaTeX, Metapost); then I checked my LuaTeX version: ``This is LuaTeX, Version beta-0.60.2-2010071217 (TeX Live 2010) (rev 3736)'', and then sudo tlmgr --repository http://tlcontrib.metatex.org/2010/ update luatex tlmgr: package repository http://tlcontrib.metatex.org/2010/ tlmgr: saving backups to /usr/local/texlive/2010/tlpkg/backups [1/3, ??:??/??:??] update: luatex.universal-darwin [2545k] (19430 - 19431) ... done [2/3, 00:27/00:51] update: luatex.x86_64-darwin [1478k] (19430 - 19431) ... done [3/3, 00:43/00:51] update: luatex [809k] (19324 - 19328) ... done tlmgr: package log updated at /usr/local/texlive/2010/texmf-var/web2c/tlmgr.log running mktexlsr ... done running mktexlsr. regenerating fmtutil.cnf in /usr/local/texlive/2010/texmf-var running fmtutil-sys --no-error-if-no-format --byengine luatex ... done running fmtutil-sys --no-error-if-no-format --byengine luatex. And now I have ``LuaTeX, Version beta-0.63.0-2010091123''. Very nice! Thank you and Mojca (the darwin LuaTeX maintainer)! Axel ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] [tex-live] Announcing TLContrib
Hi Taco, This is a great effort, thanks! On Sat, Oct 9, 2010 at 02:36, Taco Hoekwater t...@elvenkind.com wrote: TLContrib is a website + repository that hosts contributed packages for TeX Live 2010. The packages on TLContrib are packages that are not distributed inside TeX Live proper for one or another of following reasons: * because it is an intermediate release for testing. Will it be possible to filter out the testing releases? Many people would only want to update to those package and binary versions that are declared (reasonably) stable. Best, Dee ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] [tex-live] Announcing TLContrib
On 10/09/2010 12:51 AM, Philip Taylor (Webmaster, Ret'd) wrote: One comment, two questions Taco : C1: Great idea; this project has my wholehearted support. Q1: When you write In short, anything that cannot be on TeX Live but can still legally be distributed over the Internet can have a place on TLContrib., does this not open a hole rather wider than you intended. Sure, that is the intention. I do not think of the front page or the announcement as a contract, but I have added a 'related to TeX' to this phrase. Q2: When you write Quick start: to use this site as a TeX Live repository, point the TeX Live package manager to http://tlcontrib.metatex.org/2010. If you want to know more details about using TLContrib, see the using TLContrib page., does this mean that I (and others) can use /solely/ TLContrib henceforth, or No. To make this a little clearer, I've added 'temporarily' to the 'point the TLmgr' sentence. Still not the clearest possible phrasing, but better. The current multi-repository support in tlmgr is rudimentary, and it needs extensions to make extra sites like tlcontrib work in a natural way. We are already discussing such extensions off list, but there is no time frame for implementation yet. Best wishes, Taco ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] [tex-live] Announcing TLContrib
On 10/09/2010 03:11 AM, Diederick C. Niehorster wrote: Hi Taco, This is a great effort, thanks! On Sat, Oct 9, 2010 at 02:36, Taco Hoekwatert...@elvenkind.com wrote: TLContrib is a website + repository that hosts contributed packages for TeX Live 2010. The packages on TLContrib are packages that are not distributed inside TeX Live proper for one or another of following reasons: * because it is an intermediate release for testing. Will it be possible to filter out the testing releases? Many people would only want to update to those package and binary versions that are declared (reasonably) stable. I think you will have to look at the version information. There is no clean way to handle this server-side except to create a secondary TLContrib repository, and I am not eager to do that just yet. Best wishes, Taco ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] [tex-live] Announcing TLContrib
On 10/09/2010 10:03 AM, Joseph Wright wrote: What's the upload procedure for package authors? Do I just send to the server my .tds.zip, or is there more to it than that. At the moment things are a bit sparse on the site :-) Did you miss the help page? http://tlcontrib.metatex.org/help.html Best wishes, Taco ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] [tex-live] Announcing TLContrib
On 10/09/2010 10:42 AM, Joseph Wright wrote: On 09/10/2010 09:38, Taco Hoekwater wrote: On 10/09/2010 10:03 AM, Joseph Wright wrote: What's the upload procedure for package authors? Do I just send to the server my .tds.zip, or is there more to it than that. At the moment things are a bit sparse on the site :-) Did you miss the help page? http://tlcontrib.metatex.org/help.html Best wishes, Taco Um, yes. I was expecting the help to be on the upload page, a la the CTAN approach :-) Too much text to place it there. In-line help is planned for the future but not available yet. Best wishes, Taco PS From now on, I will be redirecting responses to explicit TLContrib questions to tlcont...@ntg.nl. I see no need to keep all of tex-live and ntg-context in the CC all the time. If you want to keep informed, add yourself to the tlcontrib mailing list: http://www.ntg.nl/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tlcontrib ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] [tex-live] Announcing TLContrib
On 10/09/2010 11:14 AM, Axel E. Retif wrote: OK both. But... [...] luatex [777k]: local: 19328, source: 20014 (update) What should we do in these cases? Waiting for tlcontrib to have an update is the best approach. In fact, right now there already is 20015 on tlcontrib. Best wishes, Taco ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] Inline enumerations
Hi, is there an easy way to adapt ConTeXt's enumerations not to start another paragraph? Something like (a) this (b) is (c) a short enumeration. In fact, I'd like to be able to something even more tricky: I would like to be able to prepare a teacher's version and a student's version of a problem set. Something like this: Teacher's version: 1. Problem. Hint: hint - if present. Solution: solution - if present. Answer: answer - if present. 2. Another problem. Hint: hint - if present. Solution: solution - if present. Answer: answer - if present. ... Student's version: 1. Problem. (Hint: hint - if present) 2. Problem. ... Asnwers === 1. Answer. 2. Answer. ... Can blocks and enumerations do this? Regards -- Marcin Borkowski (http://mbork.pl) ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Announcing TLContrib
Dne petek 8. oktobra 2010 ob 20:36:35 je Taco Hoekwater napisal(a): * because it is not free software according to the Debian guidelines; * because it is a binary update; At a first (and second) glance, I don't feel exactly comfortable with these two. Would you care to explain them a bit more? Does not free according to Debian mean that it *is* free according to FSF and/or OSI? Binary updates as in closed source or as in e.g. pictures? Cheers, Matija -- gsm:+386 41 849 552 www:http://matija.suklje.name xmpp: matija.suk...@gabbler.org signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Announcing TLContrib
On Sat, Oct 9, 2010 at 15:36, Matija Šuklje wrote: Dne petek 8. oktobra 2010 ob 20:36:35 je Taco Hoekwater napisal(a): * because it is not free software according to the Debian guidelines; * because it is a binary update; At a first (and second) glance, I don't feel exactly comfortable with these two. Would you care to explain them a bit more? Does not free according to Debian mean that it *is* free according to FSF and/or OSI? I'm not sure about these, but examples are: - metric files of commercial fonts - cow fonts (the font is free to use, but one may not modify it) - documentation of ConTeXt (because the sources are missing, PDFs are not considered free enough) - etc. Binary updates as in closed source or as in e.g. pictures? Usually that would be metapost and luatex (so it's neither closed source not pictures). TeX Live's policy is to update the binaries only once per year and Taco wants them to be tested faster than that. Mojca ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Inline enumerations
Am 09.10.2010 um 11:52 schrieb Marcin Borkowski: Hi, is there an easy way to adapt ConTeXt's enumerations not to start another paragraph? Something like (a) this (b) is (c) a short enumeration. \starttext text \startitemize[n,text][textdistance=medium,stopper=]% \item one \item two \item three \stopitemize text \stoptext Wolfgang ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Question for wiki authors
2010/10/8 Taco Hoekwater t...@elvenkind.com: In doing so, it is not always immediately obvious who is doing what because the 'recent changes' list quite often does not contain a useful summary message. This is understandable, but it would really help if everybody would at least put something in the Summary field. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Uw-editsummary ? Best Martin PS: http://shirky.com/writings/group_enemy.html ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Inline enumerations
Dnia Sat, Oct 09, 2010 at 04:51:17PM +0200, Wolfgang Schuster napisa#322;(a): Am 09.10.2010 um 11:52 schrieb Marcin Borkowski: Hi, is there an easy way to adapt ConTeXt's enumerations not to start another paragraph? Something like (a) this (b) is (c) a short enumeration. \starttext text \startitemize[n,text][textdistance=medium,stopper=]% \item one \item two \item three \stopitemize text \stoptext Wolfgang Thanks! And what if (theoretically) I wanted [a] text [b] text [c] etc.? And can I have textdistance shorter? Regards -- Marcin Borkowski (http://mbork.pl) We don't stop playing because we grow old; we grow old because we stop playing. G. B. Shaw ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Inline enumerations
On Sun, 10 Oct 2010, Marcin Borkowski wrote:
Dnia Sat, Oct 09, 2010 at 04:51:17PM +0200, Wolfgang Schuster napisa#322;(a):
Am 09.10.2010 um 11:52 schrieb Marcin Borkowski:
Hi,
is there an easy way to adapt ConTeXt's enumerations not to start
another paragraph? Something like (a) this (b) is (c) a short
enumeration.
\starttext
text
\startitemize[n,text][textdistance=medium,stopper=]%
\item one
\item two
\item three
\stopitemize
text
\stoptext
Wolfgang
Thanks!
And what if (theoretically) I wanted [a] text [b] text [c] etc.?
lefttext={[}, righttext={]},
And can I have textdistance shorter?
textdistance=small (or just use any dimension)
Aditya
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