Re: [NTG-context] Differences for \Vert in mkii and mkiv

2011-02-02 Thread Otared Kavian
Dear Aditya,

I am sorry I overlooked you answer… I just saw that you have answered my 
message regarding the \Vert symbol.
Thank you and please pardon me.

I tried to modify the mapping of  0x2016 to 0xFF605, but since I don't 
understand the way or where 0xFF605 is constructed, I didn't get any result.
0x2016 is described in char-def.lua, and in font-agl.lua.
FF605 is referred to only in math-vfu.lua.

Maybe if Hans has a little time, he can explain where the double vertical bar 
is constructed: the problem is that these bars are scaled swelled (or English) 
rules rather than bars as in Latin Modern.
Since more and more people are going to use only mkiv, this issue can be 
annoying for mathematical typesetting.

Best regards: OK

On 19 janv. 2011, at 17:44, Aditya Mahajan wrote:

 On Tue, 18 Jan 2011, Otared Kavian wrote:
 
 Dear Aditya, dear Hans,
 
 I noticed a serious difference between what one gets for \left\Vert in mkii 
 and in mkiv.
 Probably this is due to the fact that in mkiv the glyph for \Vert is 
 constructed in a different manner, but as far as I know from what I see in 
 the mathematical printed materials, the correct one, or the expected one, is 
 the output from mkii.
 
 I don't know why the glyphs are different. In MkIV, the virtual font is 
 mapping 0x2016 to 0xFF605, but I don't know how FF605 is created.
 
 Is there a way to redefine locally \Vert (or \|) so that in mkiv one gets 
 the same output as with mkii?
 
 Not locally. You could change math-vfu.lua to change the mapping, but I don't 
 completely understand how those work (with the virtual glyphs like FF605)
 
 Aditya
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Re: [NTG-context] error updating beta WAS: beta

2011-02-02 Thread Hans van der Meer
Just uploaded latest beta and on context --make en got the error:

! I can't find file `catc-ini.mkiv'.
to be read again 
   \relax 
l.76 \loadmarkfile{catc-ini}

Are there still missing files?

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Re: [NTG-context] beta/problem with layers

2011-02-02 Thread Wolfgang Schuster

Am 01.02.2011 um 13:33 schrieb Andreas Harder:

 Am 01.02.2011 um 12:11 schrieb Wolfgang Schuster:
 
 Am 01.02.2011 um 11:43 schrieb Andreas Harder:
 
 Hi,
 
 it seems there go something wrong with layers.
 
 With the last beta context postpones font loading till \starttext.
 
 As there is no font loaded the layer content is not visible,
 move \starttext at the begin of the file and you can see the
 layer text.
 
 Thanks Wolfgang, I forgot about that.

Even though it’s not so obvious because other commands like \setupheadertexts
don’t have this problem, for all the curious people here is a small example
where you can see the problem in another context.

\starttext
\tt\setbox0=\hbox{boxed text}\ss unboxed text \box0
\stoptext

You would now expect both texts are printed sans serif but the first
was saved in a box and use not the font which was active when you
stored it in the box, the same happens with \setlayer because
the commands stores the content too in a \hbox and since there was
no font available when you put it in the box nothing is shown.

Besides moving \setlayer after \starttext you can just load a font
before the \setlayer settings, e.g.

\setupbodyfont[modern]
\definelayer[…]
\setlayer[…]{…}
\starttext
…
\stoptext

or you use \startproduct which is normally always written as first line
and acts \starttext which preloads then the Latin Modern fonts, e.g.

\startproduct

\definelayer[…]
\setlayer[…]{…}

\startbodymatter
…
\stopbodymatter

\stopproduct

The bodymatter enviroment isn’t necessary here because it’s always enabled
when you other sectionblockenvironment is used but it’s useful to have
something which separates the preamble from the text.

Wolfgang

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Re: [NTG-context] error updating beta WAS: beta

2011-02-02 Thread luigi scarso
On Wed, Feb 2, 2011 at 11:18 AM, Hans van der Meer h.vanderm...@uva.nl wrote:
 Just uploaded latest beta and on context --make en got the error:

 ! I can't find file `catc-ini.mkiv'.
 to be read again
                   \relax
 l.76 \loadmarkfile{catc-ini}

 Are there still missing files?

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Re: [NTG-context] error updating beta WAS: beta

2011-02-02 Thread Jörg Hagmann
Confirmed - I got the same error yesterday evening on my linux system 
(after a successful installation in the afternoon on OS X).

Jörg

On 2/2/11 11:25 AM, luigi scarso wrote:

On Wed, Feb 2, 2011 at 11:18 AM, Hans van der Meerh.vanderm...@uva.nl  wrote:

Just uploaded latest beta and on context --make en got the error:

! I can't find file `catc-ini.mkiv'.
to be read again
   \relax
l.76 \loadmarkfile{catc-ini}

Are there still missing files?

Hans van der Meer

not here from  minimals

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[NTG-context] \useURL broken in mkiv

2011-02-02 Thread Otared Kavian
Dear Hans,

It seems that with ConTeXt beta 2011-01-31, the command \useURL is broken in 
mkiv, while it works fine in mkii (it worked fine until 2011-01-26 in mkiv).
Here is a minimal example
 begin bug-useURL.tex
\starttext 

See Prgma's site \useURL{http://www.pragma-ade.nl/}

\stoptext
 end bug-useURL.tex

and here is the error message:

\nextoptionalcommandnop -\doquadrupleemptyNOPone 
\douseurl 
to be read again 

I hope these are useful to fix the issue.

Best regards: OK
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Re: [NTG-context] error updating beta WAS: beta

2011-02-02 Thread Hans van der Meer
Could it be because it is named catc-ini.lua instead of catc-ini.mkiv? Or has 
it to be loaded as an explicit lua-file?

Hans van der Meer

On 2 feb 2011, at 11:34, Jörg Hagmann wrote:

 Confirmed - I got the same error yesterday evening on my linux system (after 
 a successful installation in the afternoon on OS X).
 Jörg
 
 On 2/2/11 11:25 AM, luigi scarso wrote:
 On Wed, Feb 2, 2011 at 11:18 AM, Hans van der Meerh.vanderm...@uva.nl  
 wrote:
 Just uploaded latest beta and on context --make en got the error:
 
 ! I can't find file `catc-ini.mkiv'.
 to be read again
   \relax
 l.76 \loadmarkfile{catc-ini}
 
 Are there still missing files?
 
 Hans van der Meer
 not here from  minimals
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Re: [NTG-context] error updating beta WAS: beta

2011-02-02 Thread luigi scarso
On Wed, Feb 2, 2011 at 11:43 AM, Hans van der Meer h.vanderm...@uva.nl wrote:
 Could it be because it is named catc-ini.lua instead of catc-ini.mkiv? Or has 
 it to be loaded as an explicit lua-file?
no. What about

$ mktexlsr
$ kpsewhich catc-ini.mkiv
?

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Re: [NTG-context] including pdf

2011-02-02 Thread Andrea Valle

Sorry to chime in do anyone know if there's a solution?

Thanks a lot

Best

-a-

On Jan 31, 2011, at 3:37 PM, Andrea Valle wrote:


Hi list!

I have to create the proceedings of a conference.
I'm collecting A4 pdfs (from word/latex templates), and I have to  
stick them together, adding cover, toc etc


Now, I've used copypages.
The fact is that the included pdfs do not bleed over all the page,  
their inclusion seems to depend on

some dimension I'm not able to control via setuplayout.
So, I tested startpagefigure. Works fine but I can include (well,  
I'm able to) a single page.

More, it seems that numbers of page disappear (while I need them)

Any hints?

Thanks a lot


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[NTG-context] mtxrun issue in new beta

2011-02-02 Thread Florian Wobbe
Hi,

I get
  mtxrun:12090: bad argument #1 to 'gsub' (string expected, got nil)
with texexec (mtxrun --usekpse) in current beta.

Best,
Florian

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Re: [NTG-context] error updating beta WAS: beta

2011-02-02 Thread Hans van der Meer
Strange, doing (running MacOSX 10.6.6, beta is the directory in which context 
is installed):

102 beta: mktexlsr
mktexlsr: Updating /Users/hans/TeX/ConTeXt/beta/ls-R... 
mktexlsr: Done.
103 beta: kpsewhich catc-ini.mkiv
/Users/hans/TeX/ConTeXt/beta/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/catc-ini.mkiv
104 beta: 

File is there. Checked again that context --make en runs into the same error.

Hans van der Meer


On 2 feb 2011, at 11:45, luigi scarso wrote:

 kpsewhich catc-ini.mkiv

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Re: [NTG-context] \useURL broken in mkiv

2011-02-02 Thread Wolfgang Schuster

Am 02.02.2011 um 11:35 schrieb Otared Kavian:

 Dear Hans,
 
 It seems that with ConTeXt beta 2011-01-31, the command \useURL is broken in 
 mkiv, while it works fine in mkii (it worked fine until 2011-01-26 in mkiv).
 Here is a minimal example
  begin bug-useURL.tex
 \starttext 
 
 See Prgma's site \useURL{http://www.pragma-ade.nl/}
 
 \stoptext

You’re using it the wrong way.

\useURL[pragma][http://www.pragma-ade.nl/]
\starttext 
See Pragma’s site \url[pragma].
\stoptext

For more ways look here: http://wiki.contextgarden.net/url

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Re: [NTG-context] including pdf

2011-02-02 Thread Wolfgang Schuster

Am 02.02.2011 um 11:46 schrieb Andrea Valle:

 Sorry to chime in do anyone know if there's a solution?

Do you have a example!

Wolfgang

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Re: [NTG-context] error updating beta WAS: beta

2011-02-02 Thread luigi scarso
On Wed, Feb 2, 2011 at 11:57 AM, Hans van der Meer h.vanderm...@uva.nl wrote:
 Strange, doing (running MacOSX 10.6.6, beta is the directory in which context 
 is installed):

 102 beta: mktexlsr
 mktexlsr: Updating /Users/hans/TeX/ConTeXt/beta/ls-R...
 mktexlsr: Done.
 103 beta: kpsewhich catc-ini.mkiv
 /Users/hans/TeX/ConTeXt/beta/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/catc-ini.mkiv
 104 beta:

 File is there. Checked again that context --make en runs into the same 
 error.
delete the cache and
$ mtxrun --generate
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Re: [NTG-context] including pdf

2011-02-02 Thread Andrea Valle

Ok, let's reformulate partially

If I have:

\setuppapersize[A4]

\setuppagenumbering[location=left, state=start]

\starttext

\copypages[pdf/Test.pdf][scale=1000]

\stoptext

Looking at the resulting pdf, it seems that the original pdf is  
mirrored (apart from half a line at the bottom of the paper, trunked).
Ok. But there are not page numbers (I guess they are coverd by the  
imported pdf)


Now, so sum up my problem is:
- given a certain number of A4 pdf
- how to collect them in a unique pdf
- with successive page numbers
- and with refs, so that I can automagically create a TOC

Thanks, best

-a-

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Am 02.02.2011 um 11:46 schrieb Andrea Valle:


Sorry to chime in do anyone know if there's a solution?


Do you have a example!

Wolfgang

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Re: [NTG-context] error updating beta WAS: beta

2011-02-02 Thread Hans van der Meer
Did remove texmf-cache and ran mtxrun --generate. Still get on context --make 
en the error:
! I can't find file `catc-ini.mkiv'.
to be read again 
   \relax 
l.76 \loadmarkfile{catc-ini}

Please type another input file name: 

(will be away 1 or 2 hours, sorry not able to answer immediately)
Hans van der Meer

On 2 feb 2011, at 12:05, luigi scarso wrote:

 On Wed, Feb 2, 2011 at 11:57 AM, Hans van der Meer h.vanderm...@uva.nl 
 wrote:
 Strange, doing (running MacOSX 10.6.6, beta is the directory in which 
 context is installed):
 
 102 beta: mktexlsr
 mktexlsr: Updating /Users/hans/TeX/ConTeXt/beta/ls-R...
 mktexlsr: Done.
 103 beta: kpsewhich catc-ini.mkiv
 /Users/hans/TeX/ConTeXt/beta/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/catc-ini.mkiv
 104 beta:
 
 File is there. Checked again that context --make en runs into the same 
 error.
 delete the cache and
 $ mtxrun --generate
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[NTG-context] mtxrun --find-file

2011-02-02 Thread Hans van der Meer
Why does --find-file gives an error:

106 beta: mtxrun --find-file catc-ini.mkiv
...rs/hans/TeX/ConTeXt/beta/tex/texmf-osx-64/bin/mtxrun:14558: attempt to call 
field '?' (a table value)
107 beta: mtxrun --find-file catc-ini
...rs/hans/TeX/ConTeXt/beta/tex/texmf-osx-64/bin/mtxrun:14558: attempt to call 
field '?' (a table value)
108 beta: 

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Re: [NTG-context] mtxrun --find-file

2011-02-02 Thread luigi scarso
On Wed, Feb 2, 2011 at 12:29 PM, Hans van der Meer h.vanderm...@uva.nl wrote:
 Why does --find-file gives an error:

 106 beta: mtxrun --find-file catc-ini.mkiv
 ...rs/hans/TeX/ConTeXt/beta/tex/texmf-osx-64/bin/mtxrun:14558: attempt to 
 call field '?' (a table value)
 107 beta: mtxrun --find-file catc-ini
 ...rs/hans/TeX/ConTeXt/beta/tex/texmf-osx-64/bin/mtxrun:14558: attempt to 
 call field '?' (a table value)
 108 beta:
a bug, I suppose.
You can use
$ mtxrun --find-path catc-ini.mkiv

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Re: [NTG-context] error updating beta WAS: beta

2011-02-02 Thread Hans Hagen

On 2-2-2011 11:18, Hans van der Meer wrote:

Just uploaded latest beta and on context --make en got the error:

! I can't find file `catc-ini.mkiv'.
to be read again
\relax
l.76 \loadmarkfile{catc-ini}

Are there still missing files?


no, i'm still trying to get mkii and mkiv working at the same time with 
a fundamental different setup strategy .. getting there


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Re: [NTG-context] error updating beta WAS: beta

2011-02-02 Thread Peter Münster
Hans Hagen pra...@wxs.nl writes:

 no, i'm still trying to get mkii and mkiv working at the same time with a
 fundamental different setup strategy .. getting there

Or perhaps 2 completely different distributions?
mkii: frozen, only some fixes from time to time
mkiv: no more mkii files, no more pdftex, just pure mkiv

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Re: [NTG-context] error updating beta WAS: beta

2011-02-02 Thread Hans Hagen

On 2-2-2011 1:41, Peter Münster wrote:

Hans Hagenpra...@wxs.nl  writes:


no, i'm still trying to get mkii and mkiv working at the same time with a
fundamental different setup strategy .. getting there


Or perhaps 2 completely different distributions?
mkii: frozen, only some fixes from time to time
mkiv: no more mkii files, no more pdftex, just pure mkiv


this can already be done (just install with the --engine=luatex flag)

the main issue is that mtxrun also replaces the ruby texmfstart script 
and texexec is launched via mtxrun; so mtxrun needs to be able to deal 
with mkii situations where kpse is used for lookups later on; as the 
installer uses the --tree option, and as mkiv has an abstract notion of 
the texroot, some hoops have to be jumped through to get it working for 
both machineries



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Re: [NTG-context] error updating beta WAS: beta

2011-02-02 Thread Vedran Miletić
2011/2/2 Hans Hagen pra...@wxs.nl

 On 2-2-2011 1:41, Peter Münster wrote:

 Hans Hagenpra...@wxs.nl  writes:

  no, i'm still trying to get mkii and mkiv working at the same time with a
 fundamental different setup strategy .. getting there


 Or perhaps 2 completely different distributions?
 mkii: frozen, only some fixes from time to time
 mkiv: no more mkii files, no more pdftex, just pure mkiv


 this can already be done (just install with the --engine=luatex flag)

 the main issue is that mtxrun also replaces the ruby texmfstart script and
 texexec is launched via mtxrun; so mtxrun needs to be able to deal with mkii
 situations where kpse is used for lookups later on; as the installer uses
 the --tree option, and as mkiv has an abstract notion of the texroot, some
 hoops have to be jumped through to get it working for both machineries


You mentioned earlier that texexec could be replaced by mtxrun completely,
that only a bit is missing. Would this solve the problem?

Regards,

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Re: [NTG-context] error updating beta WAS: beta

2011-02-02 Thread Hans Hagen

On 2-2-2011 3:01, Vedran Miletić wrote:

2011/2/2 Hans Hagenpra...@wxs.nl


On 2-2-2011 1:41, Peter Münster wrote:


Hans Hagenpra...@wxs.nl   writes:

  no, i'm still trying to get mkii and mkiv working at the same time with a

fundamental different setup strategy .. getting there



Or perhaps 2 completely different distributions?
mkii: frozen, only some fixes from time to time
mkiv: no more mkii files, no more pdftex, just pure mkiv



this can already be done (just install with the --engine=luatex flag)

the main issue is that mtxrun also replaces the ruby texmfstart script and
texexec is launched via mtxrun; so mtxrun needs to be able to deal with mkii
situations where kpse is used for lookups later on; as the installer uses
the --tree option, and as mkiv has an abstract notion of the texroot, some
hoops have to be jumped through to get it working for both machineries



You mentioned earlier that texexec could be replaced by mtxrun completely,
that only a bit is missing. Would this solve the problem?


it would solve the ruby dependency but pdftex/xetex need kpse

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Re: [NTG-context] error updating beta WAS: beta

2011-02-02 Thread Alan BRASLAU
On Wednesday 02 February 2011 14:58:25 Hans Hagen wrote:
 some hoops have to be jumped through to get it working for
 both machineries

¡Olé! 
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Re: [NTG-context] beta/problem with layers

2011-02-02 Thread Aditya Mahajan

On Wed, 2 Feb 2011, Wolfgang Schuster wrote:


Besides moving \setlayer after \starttext you can just load a font
before the \setlayer settings, e.g.

\setupbodyfont[modern]
\definelayer[…]
\setlayer[…]{…}
\starttext
…
\stoptext


Perhaps a redirection like \setlayer[...]{\setups{layersetup}} might also 
work (untested).



or you use \startproduct which is normally always written as first line
and acts \starttext which preloads then the Latin Modern fonts, e.g.


There is no point in not loading the fonts in the begining if one would 
then have to come up with clever ways to force loading of a font. I hope 
that there is a more robust solution so that


\setuplayer[...]{...}

\starttext
...
\stoptext

just works.


The bodymatter enviroment isn’t necessary here because it’s always enabled
when you other sectionblockenvironment is used but it’s useful to have
something which separates the preamble from the text.


One could also use \starttext ... \stoptext here.

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Re: [NTG-context] beta/problem with layers

2011-02-02 Thread Hans Hagen

On 2-2-2011 4:07, Aditya Mahajan wrote:


There is no point in not loading the fonts in the begining if one would
then have to come up with clever ways to force loading of a font. I hope
that there is a more robust solution so that


well, it depends ... how many use lm for documents?

as Wolfgang mentioned, setting a layer will use the current font which 
might not be the same as one sets later; btw, setting the size of style 
will trigger a load



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Re: [NTG-context] including pdf

2011-02-02 Thread Aditya Mahajan

On Wed, 2 Feb 2011, Andrea Valle wrote:


Ok, let's reformulate partially

If I have:

\setuppapersize[A4]

\setuppagenumbering[location=left, state=start]

\starttext

\copypages[pdf/Test.pdf][scale=1000]

\stoptext

Looking at the resulting pdf, it seems that the original pdf is mirrored 
(apart from half a line at the bottom of the paper, trunked).
Ok. But there are not page numbers (I guess they are coverd by the imported 
pdf)


You can add a layer on top and set page numbers in the layer.


Now, so sum up my problem is:
- given a certain number of A4 pdf
- how to collect them in a unique pdf
- with successive page numbers
- and with refs, so that I can automagically create a TOC


For a quick solution, you can try the cut-n-paste module[1]. It does not 
create a TOC, so you will have to do that by hand (or a helper macro).


\usemodule[cut-n-paste]

\newcount\colledpages

\definecutNpaste[collection][n=1,text={\setups[page]},location=(OverlayWidth/2,1cm)]

\startsetups[page]
  \doglobal\increment{\collectedpages}%
  \collectedpages
\stopsetups

\starttext

\processcollection[name=paper1.pdf]
\processcollection[name=paper2.pdf]
\processcollection[name=paper3.pdf]

\stoptext

The location of the text is controled by the location key. This can be any 
valid metapost coordinate.


The module is actually meant for convert two column pdfs to one column 
pdfs (for reading on an ebook device), so it an overkill for just merging 
pages. You can however control how many pages to insert, (using start and 
stop keys), and draw a grid on the page (grid=yes), and trim the page 
(more complicated).


But, as I said earlier, the simplest way is to just insert the page number 
in a layer.


Aditya

[1]:https://github.com/adityam/cut-n-paste

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Re: [NTG-context] beta/problem with layers

2011-02-02 Thread Aditya Mahajan

On Wed, 2 Feb 2011, Hans Hagen wrote:


On 2-2-2011 4:07, Aditya Mahajan wrote:


There is no point in not loading the fonts in the begining if one would
then have to come up with clever ways to force loading of a font. I hope
that there is a more robust solution so that


well, it depends ... how many use lm for documents?


Don't know, but I am pretty sure that layers are used all over the place. 
In most of my documents, I set the layers in an evironment file, which is 
often loaded before \starttext.


as Wolfgang mentioned, setting a layer will use the current font which might 
not be the same as one sets later;


Oh, that is a bigger problem. That means that the first thing in a style 
should be font loading... if nothing else then just \setupbodyfont[11pt].


Perhaps \setlayer (or even \hbox!!) should issue a warning if the fonts 
have not been loaded yet.


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Re: [NTG-context] beta/problem with layers

2011-02-02 Thread Hans Hagen

On 2-2-2011 5:46, Aditya Mahajan wrote:


Perhaps \setlayer (or even \hbox!!) should issue a warning if the fonts
have not been loaded yet.


hm, that should be doable maybe we can hook that into everyhbox / everyvbox

in general, setlayer is not so much preamble as content code .. we could 
think of some extra wrappers, like


\startstyledefinitions

\stopstyledefinitions

\startcontentdefinitions

\stopcontentdefinitions

\starttext

\stoptext

although fonts are not yet loaded, ex and em do work because nullfont 
gets the 12pt lm values


(one can add \setupbodyfont[modern] to a cont-sys.mkiv of course)

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[NTG-context] Speech bubbles

2011-02-02 Thread Ian Lawrence
Evening all:

Has anyone got a nicer \speechbubble definition up their sleeve?

Here is not-nice one, so you know the floor:

\define [1] \speechBubble 
{\blank
\framed [width=.6\textwidth ,autowidth=force,align={flushleft}, 
background=color, backgroundcolor=darkblue,
   foreground=color, foregroundcolor=white,
  frame=off,corner=0,backgroundoffset=5pt,]  {#1}
~~~ \tfd \startcolor[darkblue]{'} \stopcolor \tfa
  \blank}


Called with things like:

\speechBubble {They could be above or below the frequency we can hear, so 
called infra-sound or ultra-sound, or the amplitude could be just too small: so 
not enough power in the radiating pathway for the detector to respond.}


I guess there are some people with xs metapost skills out there... But is there 
as simple way to get a nice curved pointer left or right from the bottom of 
that rounded rectangle frame?

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Re: [NTG-context] beta/problem with layers

2011-02-02 Thread Hans Hagen

On 2-2-2011 5:46, Aditya Mahajan wrote:

On Wed, 2 Feb 2011, Hans Hagen wrote:


On 2-2-2011 4:07, Aditya Mahajan wrote:


There is no point in not loading the fonts in the begining if one would
then have to come up with clever ways to force loading of a font. I hope
that there is a more robust solution so that


well, it depends ... how many use lm for documents?


Don't know, but I am pretty sure that layers are used all over the
place. In most of my documents, I set the layers in an evironment file,
which is often loaded before \starttext.


as Wolfgang mentioned, setting a layer will use the current font which
might not be the same as one sets later;


Oh, that is a bigger problem. That means that the first thing in a style
should be font loading... if nothing else then just \setupbodyfont[11pt].

Perhaps \setlayer (or even \hbox!!) should issue a warning if the fonts
have not been loaded yet.


How about:

\unprotect

\def\dozerostagepreloadfonts
  {\definedfont[\s!file:lmmono10-regular sa 1]}

\def\zerostagepreloadfonts
  {\writestatus\m!fonts{beware: no fonts are loaded yet so content will 
not show up}%

   \glet\zerostagepreloadfonts\dozerostagepreloadfonts
   \zerostagepreloadfonts}

\everyhbox{\zerostagepreloadfonts}
\everyvbox{\zerostagepreloadfonts}

\def\resetpreloadfonts
  {\global\let\zerostagepreloadfonts  \relax
   \global\let\firststagepreloadfonts \relax
   \global\let\secondstagepreloadfonts\relax
   \global\let\thirdstagepreloadfonts \relax
   \global\let\fourthstagepreloadfonts\relax
   \global\everyhbox\emptytoks
   \global\everyvbox\emptytoks
   \resetnullfont}

\protect

\setbox0\hbox{xxx}


\starttext

test \box0

\stoptext




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Re: [NTG-context] error updating beta WAS: beta

2011-02-02 Thread Hans van der Meer
More weird things I am afraid. Experimenting somewhat, I removed the 
texmf-cahce and did mtxrun --generate.
The first messages is: /Users/hans/TeX/ConTeXt/beta
and its permissions are: drwxrwxr-x  7 hans staff 238 2 feb 17:48 beta/
idem of the parent directory: drwxr-xr-x  13 hans staff 442 2 feb 10:36 ../

120 beta: mtxrun --generate
shell-init: error retrieving current directory: getcwd: cannot access parent 
directories: No such file or directory

Something wrong here? Something I can/should repair?

Hans van der Meer


On 2 feb 2011, at 12:24, Hans van der Meer wrote:

 Did remove texmf-cache and ran mtxrun --generate. Still get on context --make 
 en the error:
 ! I can't find file `catc-ini.mkiv'.
 to be read again 
   \relax 
 l.76 \loadmarkfile{catc-ini}
 
 Please type another input file name: 
 
 (will be away 1 or 2 hours, sorry not able to answer immediately)
 Hans van der Meer
 
 On 2 feb 2011, at 12:05, luigi scarso wrote:
 
 On Wed, Feb 2, 2011 at 11:57 AM, Hans van der Meer h.vanderm...@uva.nl 
 wrote:
 Strange, doing (running MacOSX 10.6.6, beta is the directory in which 
 context is installed):
 
 102 beta: mktexlsr
 mktexlsr: Updating /Users/hans/TeX/ConTeXt/beta/ls-R...
 mktexlsr: Done.
 103 beta: kpsewhich catc-ini.mkiv
 /Users/hans/TeX/ConTeXt/beta/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/catc-ini.mkiv
 104 beta:
 
 File is there. Checked again that context --make en runs into the same 
 error.
 delete the cache and
 $ mtxrun --generate
 -- 

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Re: [NTG-context] error updating beta WAS: beta

2011-02-02 Thread Vnpenguin
On Wed, Feb 2, 2011 at 13:41, Peter Münster pmli...@free.fr wrote:

 no, i'm still trying to get mkii and mkiv working at the same time with a
 fundamental different setup strategy .. getting there

 Or perhaps 2 completely different distributions?
 mkii: frozen, only some fixes from time to time

 mkiv: no more mkii files, no more pdftex, just pure mkiv

Yes, I like this idea. I don't care about mkii, nor pdftex.
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Re: [NTG-context] error updating beta WAS: beta

2011-02-02 Thread Peter Münster
Vnpenguin vnpeng...@vnoss.org writes:

 On Wed, Feb 2, 2011 at 13:41, Peter Münster pmli...@free.fr wrote:

 no, i'm still trying to get mkii and mkiv working at the same time with a
 fundamental different setup strategy .. getting there

 Or perhaps 2 completely different distributions?
 mkii: frozen, only some fixes from time to time
 mkiv: no more mkii files, no more pdftex, just pure mkiv

 Yes, I like this idea. I don't care about mkii, nor pdftex.

In the first place, this idea was meant to make Hans' life easier.
(not the user's life... ;-)

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Re: [NTG-context] error updating beta WAS: beta

2011-02-02 Thread Hans van der Meer

On 2 feb 2011, at 20:08, Peter Münster wrote:

 Vnpenguin vnpeng...@vnoss.org writes:
 
 On Wed, Feb 2, 2011 at 13:41, Peter Münster pmli...@free.fr wrote:
 
 no, i'm still trying to get mkii and mkiv working at the same time with a
 fundamental different setup strategy .. getting there
 
 Or perhaps 2 completely different distributions?
 mkii: frozen, only some fixes from time to time
 mkiv: no more mkii files, no more pdftex, just pure mkiv
 
 Yes, I like this idea. I don't care about mkii, nor pdftex.
 
 In the first place, this idea was meant to make Hans' life easier.
 (not the user's life... ;-)
 

I strongly support the idea of freezing mkii, apart from repairing obvious bugs 
in the existing codebase. It will free precious resources and save valuable 
time. Moreover imho concentrating on mkiv not hampered by compatability issues 
because of mkii, can only add to its stability. 
(It is just like evolution or maybe call it progress. Imagine both our primate 
ancestors and the dinosaurs being maintained at the same time? Where would we 
be? ;-)

Hans van der Meer



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Re: [NTG-context] error updating beta WAS: beta

2011-02-02 Thread luigi scarso
On Wed, Feb 2, 2011 at 8:07 PM, Hans van der Meer h.vanderm...@uva.nl wrote:
 More experiments, I am not one to be so easily defeated by software.
 Retrieved some old beta's, each time I start a context run then it results in 
 the loadfilemarkerror.
 But I can find several formats lying around:
 /Users/hans/TeX/ConTeXt/beta/tex/texmf-cache/luatex-cache/context/c180539b697aa06758debbc1182817e4/formats/cont-en.fmt
 /Users/hans/TeX/ConTeXt/beta/tex/texmf-cache/luatex-cache/context/c180539b697aa06758debbc1182817e4/formats/cont-nl.fmt
 /Users/hans/TeX/ConTeXt/beta/tex/texmf-osx-64/web2c/pdftex/cont-en.fmt
 /Users/hans/TeX/ConTeXt/beta/tex/texmf-osx-64/web2c/pdftex/cont-nl.fmt
 /Users/hans/TeX/ConTeXt/beta/tex/texmf-osx-64/web2c/xetex/cont-en.fmt
 /Users/hans/TeX/ConTeXt/beta/tex/texmf-osx-64/web2c/xetex/cont-nl.fmt
 Apparently none of them found! Vide this first message:
 MTXrun | warning: no format found, forcing remake (commandline driven)
It's a Mac OS system (sorry, I though it was linux).

Can you try the latest minimals under
/Users/hans/LuaTeX
(just to  be sure to avoid conflicts)
?
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Re: [NTG-context] error updating beta WAS: beta

2011-02-02 Thread Hans Hagen

On 2-2-2011 8:08, Peter Münster wrote:

Vnpenguinvnpeng...@vnoss.org  writes:


On Wed, Feb 2, 2011 at 13:41, Peter Münsterpmli...@free.fr  wrote:



no, i'm still trying to get mkii and mkiv working at the same time with a
fundamental different setup strategy .. getting there


Or perhaps 2 completely different distributions?
mkii: frozen, only some fixes from time to time
mkiv: no more mkii files, no more pdftex, just pure mkiv


Yes, I like this idea. I don't care about mkii, nor pdftex.


In the first place, this idea was meant to make Hans' life easier.
(not the user's life... ;-)


as there is not much code written for mkii the burden for me is not that 
large; also, now that the codebase is completely split, there is less 
danger of changes in one affecting the other


also, there are mkii users out there, including collegues, so it won't 
be dropped


installing mkiv only is already possible for a while

ok, we can have less files if we make a zip split, something that might 
happen at some point (i need to adapt my assembling script then)


for a moment i considered

base/mkii
base/mkiv
base/common

but it might not be worth the effort,

Hans

(who after many hours finally managed to get a beta of one of his 
favourite programs working on suse 11.3 as it kept crashing linux on 
11.2 but well, it's beta for a reason)


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Re: [NTG-context] error updating beta WAS: beta

2011-02-02 Thread Hans Hagen

On 2-2-2011 8:07, Hans van der Meer wrote:

More experiments, I am not one to be so easily defeated by software.
Retrieved some old beta's, each time I start a context run then it results in 
the loadfilemarkerror.
But I can find several formats lying around:
/Users/hans/TeX/ConTeXt/beta/tex/texmf-cache/luatex-cache/context/c180539b697aa06758debbc1182817e4/formats/cont-en.fmt
/Users/hans/TeX/ConTeXt/beta/tex/texmf-cache/luatex-cache/context/c180539b697aa06758debbc1182817e4/formats/cont-nl.fmt


best wipe the cache as the latest version uses a different hash so the 
oldest path is obsolete



/Users/hans/TeX/ConTeXt/beta/tex/texmf-osx-64/web2c/pdftex/cont-en.fmt
/Users/hans/TeX/ConTeXt/beta/tex/texmf-osx-64/web2c/pdftex/cont-nl.fmt
/Users/hans/TeX/ConTeXt/beta/tex/texmf-osx-64/web2c/xetex/cont-en.fmt
/Users/hans/TeX/ConTeXt/beta/tex/texmf-osx-64/web2c/xetex/cont-nl.fmt


looks ok


Apparently none of them found! Vide this first message:
MTXrun | warning: no format found, forcing remake (commandline driven)


hm, the latest beta?


export TEXLIVE=/usr/local/texlive/2010
export TEXPRIVATE=$HOME/TeX/My-TeXLib
export TEXMINIMAL=$HOME/TeX/ConTeXt/beta
export TEXPATH=$TEXMINIMAL/tex/texmf-osx-64/bin
export TEXMFDBS=$TEXMINIMAL
#$TEXMINIMAL/tex/setuptex
export TEXMF=$TEXMINIMAL
Note: inserting the hashed out line doesn't make a difference.


you can check what mtxrun --generate returns as variables right at the 
start


also, configuration of mkiv happens in texmfcnf.lua (see contextcnf.lua 
for the future version of it, but that's for Mojca to decide)


Hans

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[NTG-context] embedding swfs in pdfs

2011-02-02 Thread Ian Lawrence
Any experts out there - with access to code (or the ability to assemble such 
code) that can do what acropro ( advanced options) offers on embedding swfs?


-load in swf at x,y location relative to a fixed 1026 by 768 px background
-set size correctly (native size of swf)
-set poster frame (provided at fixed location)
-load in a folder or directory full of assets (several subfolders are involved)
-set up the launch settings for the swf

So needs more than InDesign CS5 currently offers. Not just loading in a 
freestanding swf movie clip.

THX

Ian


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Re: [NTG-context] embedding swfs in pdfs

2011-02-02 Thread luigi scarso
On Wed, Feb 2, 2011 at 9:44 PM, Ian Lawrence physics.wande...@gmail.com wrote:
 Any experts out there - with access to code (or the ability to assemble such 
 code) that can do what acropro ( advanced options) offers on embedding swfs?


 -load in swf at x,y location relative to a fixed 1026 by 768 px background
 -set size correctly (native size of swf)
 -set poster frame (provided at fixed location)
 -load in a folder or directory full of assets (several subfolders are 
 involved)
 -set up the launch settings for the swf
I've done something
http://meeting.contextgarden.net/2010/talks/2010-09-17-luigi-flash/
but I need more samples

-- 
luigi
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Re: [NTG-context] beta/problem with layers

2011-02-02 Thread Wolfgang Schuster

Am 02.02.2011 um 16:07 schrieb Aditya Mahajan:

 The bodymatter enviroment isn’t necessary here because it’s always enabled
 when you other sectionblockenvironment is used but it’s useful to have
 something which separates the preamble from the text.
 
 One could also use \starttext ... \stoptext here.

I don’t think \starttext after \startproduct is good style.

Wolfgang

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Re: [NTG-context] embedding swfs in pdfs

2011-02-02 Thread Ian Lawrence
Hi Luigi,
I found your stuff on context garden...looks like a sound start. I'm really 
interested in getting external swfs loaded in.


I have both some legacy 'sealed unit' swfs where everything is all in one file, 
and some still being built, which have the assets external.

simple/ sealed (~ several hundred, probably):
https://spt.box.net/shared/static/xmz4vh0k4l.swf

with assets (~75 of these):
http://supportingphysics.org/spt/temp/SPT_14-16_Ra_01_PN_LE12_04_MakingaLens.swf


The former are of varying dimensions, the latter are all one size - and yes, it 
still has (conceptual) errors in it.

So I have plenty of real-life examples.

I think the swfs with assets will be a tough one to crack...


On 2 Feb 2011, at 20:53, luigi scarso wrote:

 On Wed, Feb 2, 2011 at 9:44 PM, Ian Lawrence physics.wande...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 Any experts out there - with access to code (or the ability to assemble such 
 code) that can do what acropro ( advanced options) offers on embedding swfs?
 
 
 -load in swf at x,y location relative to a fixed 1026 by 768 px background
 -set size correctly (native size of swf)
 -set poster frame (provided at fixed location)
 -load in a folder or directory full of assets (several subfolders are 
 involved)
 -set up the launch settings for the swf
 I've done something
 http://meeting.contextgarden.net/2010/talks/2010-09-17-luigi-flash/
 but I need more samples
 
 -- 
 luigi
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Re: [NTG-context] error updating beta WAS: beta

2011-02-02 Thread Hans Hagen

On 2-2-2011 10:00, Hans van der Meer wrote:


Looking at these variables doesn't look good, I suspect:
MTXrun | resolvers: variable 'SELFAUTOLOC' set to '/Users/hans/Bin'
MTXrun | resolvers: variable 'SELFAUTODIR' set to '/Users/hans'
MTXrun | resolvers: variable 'SELFAUTOPARENT' set to '/Users'
MTXrun | resolvers: variable 'TEXMFCNF' set to ''
MTXrun | resolvers: variable 'TEXMF' set to '/Users/hans/TeX/ConTeXt/beta'
MTXrun | resolvers: variable 'TEXOS' set to 'hans'
MTXrun | resolvers
MTXrun | resolvers: unknown configuration file '/Users/texmf-local/texmfcnf.lua'
MTXrun | resolvers: unknown configuration file 
'/Users/texmf-local/web2c/texmfcnf.lua'
MTXrun | resolvers: unknown configuration file '/Users/texmf/texmfcnf.lua'
MTXrun | resolvers: unknown configuration file '/Users/texmf/web2c/texmfcnf.lua'
MTXrun | resolvers: unknown configuration file '/Users/texmfcnf.lua'
MTXrun | resolvers
MTXrun | resolvers: warning: no lua configuration files found

If for example TEXOS has to be the name of an operating system or machine, than 
it is far beyond the mark.
And /Userstexmf-local... ?? These are not users in the system!
How and where are these variables acquired?


texos is only used to guess the texmf-[texos]/bin path

so, indeed, if you don't conform to the minimal structure it is not that 
meaningful


anyhow, you have no configuration file in a known place so you can try 
to set it yourself (TEXMFCNF=path_to_your_cnffile)


you cannot expect the minimals to work with arbitrary tree setups

normally this problem is just a side effect of putting binaries in a 
spot that the SELF* variables cannot relate to


you can have extra bins of course, for instance I have (as i need to 
test it):


texmf-mswin
texmf-mswin-new
texmf-mswin-texlive

and set up my console with:

SET PATH=%MYTEXROOT%\texmf-mswin-live\bin;%PATH%
SET PATH=%MYTEXROOT%\texmf-mswin\bin;%PATH%
SET PATH=%MYTEXROOT%\texmf-mswin-new\bin;%PATH%

so, the newest bins are taken first (under texroot are also the regular 
minimal paths as wel as texmf-mine that has some dev files) ... so there 
are plenty of ways to extend the minimals


also, I have a couple of dev paths added to the regular paths and do 
that in a local extra texmfcnf.lua file (multiple files are supported)


Hans



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[NTG-context] JS in widgets still not working with mkiv

2011-02-02 Thread Reviczky, Adam
Dear Hans

Everything I use around widgets works now, except JavaScript.

Please find attached a minimal example (js.tex).
I don't see any errors running mkiv and the PDF is generated, but when I enter 
for example \'a into the field I am expecting to get á (as you can see with 
mkii), but it just inserts the keys I pressed, eg. \'a.

I've attached two PDF's, one made with mkii and one with mkiv. The input with 
the mkii PDF works as expected, the mkiv PDF does not work like expected.
Can you have a look at this?

Best wishes
Adam


jsmkii.pdf
Description: jsmkii.pdf


jsmkiv.pdf
Description: jsmkiv.pdf
\setupinteraction[state=start]

\starttext

\setupfield
[ShortLine]
[label,frame,horizontal]
[offset=4pt,height=fit,framecolor=green,background=screen,backgroundscreen=.80]
[height=18pt,width=80pt,align=middle,background=screen,backgroundscreen=.90,frame=off]
[height=18pt,width=80pt,color=red,align=right,style=type,background=screen,backgroundscreen=.90,frame=off,regionin=JS(Initialize_TeX_Key),afterkey=JS(Convert_TeX_Key),validate=JS(Convert_TeX_String)]

\definefield [Email] [line] [ShortLine] [] [pragma at wxs.nl]

\field [Email] [your email]

\stoptext
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[NTG-context] Latest beta, simpleslides, and font loading

2011-02-02 Thread Aditya Mahajan
In the latest beta if I use the simplefonts module, the font database is 
regenerated at each run! For example, this file


For example with this file:

\usemodule  [simplefonts][size=10pt]
\setmainfont[Cambria]
\setmathfont[Cambria]

\starttext
\input knuth
\stoptext

the font database is regenerated at each run. If I replace the 
simplefonts setup with


\setupbodyfont[cambria,10pt]

the database is not regenerated. Any idea what is going wrong?

(In my actual document, I am using system fonts, I would like to use 
simpleslides module rather than write my own typescript).


Aditya
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Re: [NTG-context] Latest beta, simpleslides, and font loading

2011-02-02 Thread Wolfgang Schuster

Am 03.02.2011 um 08:16 schrieb Aditya Mahajan:

 In the latest beta if I use the simplefonts module, the font database is 
 regenerated at each run! For example, this file
 
 For example with this file:
 
 \usemodule  [simplefonts][size=10pt]
 \setmainfont[Cambria]
 \setmathfont[Cambria]
 
 \starttext
 \input knuth
 \stoptext
 
 the font database is regenerated at each run. If I replace the simplefonts 
 setup with
 
 \setupbodyfont[cambria,10pt]
 
 the database is not regenerated. Any idea what is going wrong?

Here is a minimal example:

\starttext 
\doiffontpresentelse{cambria}{yes}{no}
\doiffontpresentelse{unknown}{yes}{no}
\stoptext

Simplefonts tries a lot of name combinations (e.g. cambriaregular) with
the \doiffontpresentelse command to look if a font exists to find all
styles (regular, italic etc.) and now when when a entry in the database
with this name does not exist (second test above for 'unknown') context
regenerates the database.

 (In my actual document, I am using system fonts, I would like to use 
 simpleslides module rather than write my own typescript).

Is this a option for you:

\definetypeface[mainface][rm][specserif][DejaVu Serif][default]
\definetypeface[mainface][ss][specsans] [DejaVu Sans] [default]

\setupbodyfont[mainface]

Wolfgang


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