[NTG-context] DocBook in ConTeXt - any new ideas?
Dear list, I am beginning a rather tedious documentation project and will most probably end up with DocBook. The fact is I haven't used it for any serious work for about 10 years. Docbook In ConText haven't been updated since 2003. Does it mean it's so perfect or instead rather obsolete? Could you recommend other approaches which work out-of-the-box (or almost). Obviously I would prefer ConTeXt based solutions. DocBook is not mandatory in fact, I would happily learn other documentation system. Main prerequisite is utf-8 output at least in pdf and html and sensible defaults (this time I don't want to be a typographer, nor I want to fiddle with structure). Best Piotr -- http://okle.pl ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] DocBook in ConTeXt - any new ideas?
On Thu, 2 Jun 2011 11:39:46 +0200 Piotr Kopszak kops...@gmail.com wrote: Dear list, I am beginning a rather tedious documentation project and will most probably end up with DocBook. The fact is I haven't used it for any serious work for about 10 years. Docbook In ConText haven't been updated since 2003. Does it mean it's so perfect or instead rather obsolete? Could you recommend other approaches which work out-of-the-box (or almost). Obviously I would prefer ConTeXt based solutions. DocBook is not mandatory in fact, I would happily learn other documentation system. Main prerequisite is utf-8 output at least in pdf and html and sensible defaults (this time I don't want to be a typographer, nor I want to fiddle with structure). Best Piotr -- http://okle.pl Difficult to say of course without knowing the complexity of your documents, but just a few thoughts: if you're referring to Simon Pepping's Docbook in ConTeXt, this was targeted at mkii, so it will probably still work, but could be considered obsolete. xml support in mkiv has changed a lot, but is much more powerful and flexible. It's fairly easy to write a stylesheet to translate your xml for typesetting, so I would look at the relevant xml documentation (like xml-mkiv.pdf) and make a fresh start. You can always refine and elaborate things as you go, and if you really hit a wall, there's the list. Thomas ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] DocBook in ConTeXt - any new ideas?
Many thanks for your reply! I would certainly go this way having a couple of months or a year perspective. Besides I'm eager to try finally the new way mkIV deals with xml. But realistically, preparing and testing a mapping of even a subset of DocBook is a question of at least a couple of personmonths if not worse. Sadly, I'm not in a position to that now. Best Piotr 2011/6/2 Thomas Schmitz tschm...@uni-bonn.de: On Thu, 2 Jun 2011 11:39:46 +0200 Piotr Kopszak kops...@gmail.com wrote: Dear list, I am beginning a rather tedious documentation project and will most probably end up with DocBook. The fact is I haven't used it for any serious work for about 10 years. Docbook In ConText haven't been updated since 2003. Does it mean it's so perfect or instead rather obsolete? Could you recommend other approaches which work out-of-the-box (or almost). Obviously I would prefer ConTeXt based solutions. DocBook is not mandatory in fact, I would happily learn other documentation system. Main prerequisite is utf-8 output at least in pdf and html and sensible defaults (this time I don't want to be a typographer, nor I want to fiddle with structure). Best Piotr -- http://okle.pl Difficult to say of course without knowing the complexity of your documents, but just a few thoughts: if you're referring to Simon Pepping's Docbook in ConTeXt, this was targeted at mkii, so it will probably still work, but could be considered obsolete. xml support in mkiv has changed a lot, but is much more powerful and flexible. It's fairly easy to write a stylesheet to translate your xml for typesetting, so I would look at the relevant xml documentation (like xml-mkiv.pdf) and make a fresh start. You can always refine and elaborate things as you go, and if you really hit a wall, there's the list. Thomas ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___ -- http://okle.pl ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] DocBook in ConTeXt - any new ideas?
On 2-6-2011 11:39, Piotr Kopszak wrote: Dear list, I am beginning a rather tedious documentation project and will most probably end up with DocBook. The fact is I haven't used it for any serious work for about 10 years. Docbook In ConText haven't been updated since 2003. Does it mean it's so perfect or instead rather obsolete? Could you recommend other approaches which work it was never something official (afaik it even hacked core macros) but an experiment by a user Hans - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | voip: 087 875 68 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] DocBook in ConTeXt - any new ideas?
On 2-6-2011 12:53, Piotr Kopszak wrote: Many thanks for your reply! I would certainly go this way having a couple of months or a year perspective. Besides I'm eager to try finally the new way mkIV deals with xml. But realistically, preparing and testing a mapping of even a subset of DocBook is a question of at least a couple of personmonths if not worse. Sadly, I'm not in a position to that now. Months? I never had a reason for doing a docbook mapping but a couple of hours should get you a start. Th eonly reason why I'd look into docbook is if I'd need in in a project. (I'd happily spent a few well paid months on it then.) You probably don't need all of docbook, so you could start with some simple tests. The mkii docbook stuff you mentioned definitely is doing a small subset. Hans - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | voip: 087 875 68 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] teletype style in type-win.mkiv
Hello all,
I'm afraid I've never spent the time to understand fonts properly, I just
make do with the defaults most of the time. Now, however, I am being forced
to use company default fonts for some documents. I have got as far as using
the following commands to setup my body font:
\usetypescriptfile[type-win]
\usetypescript[arial]
\setupbodyfont[arial, 10pt]
But the teletype style now has no effect: e.g. using {\tt teletype} gives
the same font as normal, and \showbodyfont reveals the same.
I've tried making sense of the type-win.mkiv file but it's beyond me! Any
suggestions how to get \tt to use Courier New, for instance?
Thanks,
Richard
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Re: [NTG-context] teletype style in type-win.mkiv
On 2-6-2011 3:57, Richard Stephens wrote: I've tried making sense of the type-win.mkiv file but it's beyond me! Any suggestions how to get \tt to use Courier New, for instance? \setupbodyfont[mcore] Converteam UK Ltd. Registration Number: 5571739 and Converteam Ltd. Registration Number: 2416188 Registered in England and Wales. Registered office: Boughton Road, Rugby, Warwickshire, CV21 1BU. CONFIDENTIALITY : This e-mail and any attachments are confidential and may be privileged. If you are not a named recipient, please notify the sender immediately and do not disclose the contents to another person, use it for any purpose or store or copy the information in any medium. http://www.converteam.com Please consider the environment before printing this e-mail. (always funny such a remark as the confidentially banner takes most toner/ink) Hans - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | voip: 087 875 68 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] Problem installing minimals on PowerMac G4
Hi, When installing the current version of ConTeXt-minimals on my old PowerMac G4 (OSX 10.4.11), on which the minimals have been installed, and have worked, without any problems up till october last year, the process stopped midway, because the file 'metafun' could not be opened. The last lines of the log are: TeXExec | using tex engine xetex TeXExec | using tex format path ./xetex TeXExec | unable to make format due to lack of permissions TeXExec | using mp engine mpost TeXExec | using mps format path . TeXExec | generating mps format metafun This is MetaPost, version 1.504 (kpathsea version 6.0.0) ! I can't open file `metafun'. * metafun Please type another input file name: Does anybody know what can be done about this? (I even do not know how to abort the process other than quitting Terminal.) Incidentally, the PowerMac has not been used between october and now. Thanks in advance. Robert Blackstone ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] teletype style in type-win.mkiv
On 2 June 2011 15:26, Hans Hagen pra...@wxs.nl wrote: On 2-6-2011 3:57, Richard Stephens wrote: I've tried making sense of the type-win.mkiv file but it's beyond me! Any suggestions how to get \tt to use Courier New, for instance? \setupbodyfont[mcore] Sorry Hans, I don't understand what I'm supposed to do with that command. Anyway, I have found another way around the problem. I have removed the typescript and font commands for Arial and replaced them with: \setupbodyfont[helvetica, 10pt] which is indistinguishable from Arial for 99% of the population, and it has the advantage that all the styles are already defined, including \tt. Richard Converteam UK Ltd. Registration Number: 5571739 and Converteam Ltd. Registration Number: 2416188 Registered in England and Wales. Registered office: Boughton Road, Rugby, Warwickshire, CV21 1BU. CONFIDENTIALITY : This e-mail and any attachments are confidential and may be privileged. If you are not a named recipient, please notify the sender immediately and do not disclose the contents to another person, use it for any purpose or store or copy the information in any medium. http://www.converteam.com Please consider the environment before printing this e-mail. ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Problem installing minimals on PowerMac G4
On Thu, Jun 2, 2011 at 17:37, Robert Blackstone wrote: Hi, When installing the current version of ConTeXt-minimals on my old PowerMac G4 (OSX 10.4.11), on which the minimals have been installed, and have worked, without any problems up till october last year, the process stopped midway, because the file 'metafun' could not be opened. Where did you install the minimals? Can you try chown -R yourusername /path/to/installation ? The last lines of the log are: TeXExec | using tex engine xetex TeXExec | using tex format path ./xetex TeXExec | unable to make format due to lack of permissions TeXExec | using mp engine mpost TeXExec | using mps format path . TeXExec | generating mps format metafun This is MetaPost, version 1.504 (kpathsea version 6.0.0) ! I can't open file `metafun'. * metafun Please type another input file name: Does anybody know what can be done about this? (I even do not know how to abort the process other than quitting Terminal.) Ctrl-C (a couple of times), Ctrl-D, Ctrl-\, ... or killall (but I'm not experience enough in giving you further details). Mojca ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] teletype style in type-win.mkiv
On Thu, 2 Jun 2011, Richard Stephens wrote: On 2 June 2011 15:26, Hans Hagen pra...@wxs.nl wrote: On 2-6-2011 3:57, Richard Stephens wrote: I've tried making sense of the type-win.mkiv file but it's beyond me! Any suggestions how to get \tt to use Courier New, for instance? \setupbodyfont[mcore] Sorry Hans, I don't understand what I'm supposed to do with that command. There was a typo there. It should be \setupbodyfont[mscore] MkIV defines a typescript for microsoft core fonts called mscore. In recent version of context, you don't need to specify \setuptypescript, \setupbodyfont does that for you. So, just include that command on the top of your file, and it should work. Aditya ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] DocBook in ConTeXt - any new ideas?
Hans Hagen pragma at wxs.nl writes: On 2-6-2011 12:53, Piotr Kopszak wrote: Many thanks for your reply! I would certainly go this way having a couple of months or a year perspective. Besides I'm eager to try finally the new way mkIV deals with xml. But realistically, preparing and testing a mapping of even a subset of DocBook is a question of at least a couple of personmonths if not worse. Sadly, I'm not in a position to that now. Months? I never had a reason for doing a docbook mapping but a couple of hours should get you a start. Th eonly reason why I'd look into docbook is if I'd need in in a project. (I'd happily spent a few well paid months on it then.) You probably don't need all of docbook, so you could start with some simple tests. The mkii docbook stuff you mentioned definitely is doing a small subset. I never understand why you would try to typeset XML directly in ConTeXt? Why not just convert the DocBook to ConTeXt source using XSLT (or if the docs are simpler, use markdown with pandoc and you can easily get ConTeXt and HTML from the same source)? Bruce ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] DocBook in ConTeXt - any new ideas?
On 2-6-2011 7:17, Bruce wrote: Hans Hagenpragmaat wxs.nl writes: On 2-6-2011 12:53, Piotr Kopszak wrote: Many thanks for your reply! I would certainly go this way having a couple of months or a year perspective. Besides I'm eager to try finally the new way mkIV deals with xml. But realistically, preparing and testing a mapping of even a subset of DocBook is a question of at least a couple of personmonths if not worse. Sadly, I'm not in a position to that now. Months? I never had a reason for doing a docbook mapping but a couple of hours should get you a start. Th eonly reason why I'd look into docbook is if I'd need in in a project. (I'd happily spent a few well paid months on it then.) You probably don't need all of docbook, so you could start with some simple tests. The mkii docbook stuff you mentioned definitely is doing a small subset. I never understand why you would try to typeset XML directly in ConTeXt? Why not just convert the DocBook to ConTeXt source using XSLT (or if the docs are simpler, use markdown with pandoc and you can easily get ConTeXt and HTML from the same source)? (1) because xslt mappings can become pretty unreadable (2) because you still need to make a file (and define environments) (3) because it then create another depencency and intermediate processing stage (4) because sometimes it makes sense to let the typesetting engine make decisions (5) because in mkiv one can apply lua functions to xml content (6) ... anyhow, the whole idea of xml is that it can be processed by whatever machinery (and using xslt and/or xsl-fo for everything kin dof contradicts that) Hans - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | voip: 087 875 68 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] teletype style in type-win.mkiv
On Thu 02 Jun 2011, Richard Stephens wrote: \setupbodyfont[helvetica, 10pt] which is indistinguishable from Arial for 99% of the population, and it has the advantage that all the styles are already defined, including \tt. Anyone who can distinguish Helvetica from Arial is likely to have sufficient taste to realize that Helvetica is superior ;-). Pont ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] No chapter prefixes in section numbers
On Thu, 2 Jun 2011, Wolfgang Schuster wrote:
Am 02.06.2011 um 02:28 schrieb Aditya Mahajan:
Hi,
I do not want chapter number to be prefixed in section and subsection numbers.
Thus,
\starttext
\chapter{One}
\section{Two}
\subsection{Three}
\stoptext
should give:
1 One
1 Two
1.1 Three
How to achieve that? I tried
\setuphead[section][prefixset=none]
but to no affect.
\setuphead[section] [sectionsegments=section]
\setuphead[subsection][sectionsegments=section:subsection]
Thanks.
Prefixes are used from commands which show the section numbers
in front of their own number, e.g. floats or enumerations.
Ah, that is why strc-sec did not use any prefixset.
Aditya
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