Re: [NTG-context] Project, product, component...

2012-03-01 Thread Procházka Lukáš Ing . - Pontex s . r . o .

On Thu, 01 Mar 2012 09:53:23 +0100, Hans Hagen  wrote:


the tags are (an always will be) mandate

they are also used in

- cross document referencing (component processing)
- logging and reporting
- keeping track of loading environments once
- internal pusp/pop states and hashes
- whatever we need in the future

(so, naming all environments _ will load only one)

Hans



... OK, thanks for the explanation.

Best regards,

Lukas


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[NTG-context] Broken Nightly 2012.02.29

2012-03-01 Thread Kip Warner
Hey list,

Another broken nightly to report. I got this error while compiling my
book:

...
structure   > sectioning > subsubsubject @ level 5 : 0.7.1.0.0 ->
\bf 44 Aquarius, 48 B.R.
structure   > sectioning > subsubsubject @ level 5 : 0.7.1.0.0 ->
\bf 48 Aries, 15 B.R.
structure   > sectioning > subsubsubject @ level 5 : 0.7.1.0.0 ->
\bf 12 Cancer, 14 B.R.
structure   > sectioning > subsubsubject @ level 5 : 0.7.1.0.0 ->
\bf 2 Libra, 14 B.R.
structure   > sectioning > subsubsubject @ level 5 : 0.7.1.0.0 ->
\bf 3 Libra, 14 B.R.
graphics> invalid region for 'tbg:1'
! TeX capacity exceeded, sorry [input stack size=1].
 \next 
 
\doifmeaningelse ...>\edef \!!stringa {\meaning #1
  }\def \!!stringb
{#2}\edef...
\spac_lines_between ...ningelse \next \obeyedline 
  {\linesparameter \c!
inbetw...
\doifmeaningelse ...meaning #1}\def \!!stringb {#2
  }\edef \!!stringb
{\meanin...
\spac_lines_between ...ningelse \next \obeyedline 
  {\linesparameter \c!
inbetw...
\doifmeaningelse ...meaning #1}\def \!!stringb {#2
  }\edef \!!stringb
{\meanin...
...
l.34 ... and the methane/oxygen return propellant.
  
!  ==> Fatal error occurred, no output PDF file produced!
mtx-context | fatal error: return code: 1

Unfortunately my luck with ConTeXt hasn't been so good lately. Every
single nightly has been broken since late last January (2012.01.27).
Fortunately I still have debs I can revert to.

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Re: [NTG-context] \setuphead problem

2012-03-01 Thread Wolfgang Schuster

Am 01.03.2012 um 18:37 schrieb Alan Bowen:

> The following code works in MKII; but in MKIV, I get the header text on the 
> page before the page with the title. How can I fix this? 

Can you show the output of mkii and mkiv because i can’t see a difference 
between both.

Wolfgang

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[NTG-context] Bug with \startpostponing

2012-03-01 Thread Aditya Mahajan

Hi,

The following works fine in MkII but gives a TeX capacity exceeded error 
in MkIV.


\starttext
\input ward
\startpostponing[+1]
\framed[align=normal]{\input knuth \endgraf}
\stoppostponing
\dorecurse{15}{\input ward}
\stoptext

Aditya
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Re: [NTG-context] Float on opposite page

2012-03-01 Thread Charles

Le 01/03/2012 18:17, Aditya Mahajan a écrit :

On Thu, 1 Mar 2012, Charles wrote:


Hi,

I have a problem with float positioning. I would like to have text on
even pages and text on odd pages. I tried:

- "\placetable[opposite]" but then the tables are not included.
- "\placetable[rightpage]" but then each table is on a new page.

I would like to have my figures/tables on a new even page, but if 2
figures/tables fit on one page, they should not be on two different
pages but together on the same even page (I was thinking "opposite"
should do that).


Untested:


\setuppagenumbering[alternative=doublesided]

\starttext

Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, maecenas malesuada, ut tellus ac a egestas
donec, lectus aliquam, purus orci fermentum porta sed. Ut quis risus
suspendisse, convallis vel velit suspendisse amet diam urna, erat
auctor vestibulum nec amet lorem, at fringilla cursus aenean donec dui
at. Neque duis luctus netus magna, orci nulla vivamus consectetuer
nulla, amet felis in sodales dictum parturient ipsum, consequuntur
malesuada.


\startpostponing[+1]


\placetable[top]{Legend 1}{Content of Table 1}

\placetable[top]{Legend 1}{Content of Table 2}


\stoppostponing


Vestibulum ut pretium fringilla dui dui odio, pellentesque arcu leo
id. Malesuada curabitur, urna nostrum mauris lobortis, ante luctus
donec a, congue arcu placerat dictum non integer, nulla non.

\stoptext


Aditya


Thanks but it doesn't work (TeX capacity exceeded) and anyway the 
figures would not be centered on the page.


Charles

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Re: [NTG-context] Scribus vs ConTeXt

2012-03-01 Thread William Adams
On Mar 1, 2012, at 11:15 AM, Martin Schröder wrote:

> May I suggest you contact our sales agent: http://www.priint.net/en/ -
> if you truely want to do Database Publishing with InDesign. :-)

Naturally, the rules change if one is using InDesign CS Server --- we have a 
license and use it and some other proprietary plug-ins (the company bought 
XMPie) --- we truly do database publishing with InDesign (and other tools), but 
that's not something of interest to the typical user --- kind of like all those 
old discussions where people would state all of TeX's awkward aspects are 
addressed in 3B2.

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Re: [NTG-context] Float on opposite page

2012-03-01 Thread Aditya Mahajan

On Thu, 1 Mar 2012, Charles wrote:


Hi,

I have a problem with float positioning. I would like to have text on even 
pages and text on odd pages. I tried:


- "\placetable[opposite]" but then the tables are not included.
- "\placetable[rightpage]" but then each table is on a new page.

I would like to have my figures/tables on a new even page, but if 2 
figures/tables fit on one page, they should not be on two different pages but 
together on the same even page (I was thinking "opposite" should do that).


Untested:


\setuppagenumbering[alternative=doublesided]

\starttext

Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, maecenas malesuada, ut tellus ac a egestas donec, 
lectus aliquam, purus orci fermentum porta sed. Ut quis risus suspendisse, 
convallis vel velit suspendisse amet diam urna, erat auctor vestibulum nec 
amet lorem, at fringilla cursus aenean donec dui at. Neque duis luctus netus 
magna, orci nulla vivamus consectetuer nulla, amet felis in sodales dictum 
parturient ipsum, consequuntur malesuada.


\startpostponing[+1]


\placetable[top]{Legend 1}{Content of Table 1}

\placetable[top]{Legend 1}{Content of Table 2}


\stoppostponing

Vestibulum ut pretium fringilla dui dui odio, pellentesque arcu leo id. 
Malesuada curabitur, urna nostrum mauris lobortis, ante luctus donec a, 
congue arcu placerat dictum non integer, nulla non.


\stoptext


Aditya
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Re: [NTG-context] Scribus vs ConTeXt

2012-03-01 Thread Martin Schröder
2012/3/1 William Adams :
> Unfortunately, there aren't many hooks in InDesign (and none I'm aware of in 
> Quark) to activate scripts automatically, so that a document will build 
> itself --- one which is pretty cool is Dirk Becker's auto-indexing script 
> which will run a script to format index entries (so as to make up for 
> InDesign's inability to capture character styles in index entries).

May I suggest you contact our sales agent: http://www.priint.net/en/ -
if you truely want to do Database Publishing with InDesign. :-)

Best
   Martin
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[NTG-context] CaLi2CoPi

2012-03-01 Thread Martin Schröder
FYI: On the ghostscript-devel list I came accross this announcement.
Don't be frightened by the language: Google can translate catalan. :-)

Best
   Martin
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From: Marc Antoni Malagarriga i Picas 
Date: 2012/3/1
Subject: Re: [gs-devel] Separating PDF layers with ghostscript
To: gs-de...@ghostscript.com



Hi Simone,


Al 01/03/12 8:06, En/na simoneces...@libero.it ha escrit:

> I need to separate layers in PDF files (created in adobe illustrator) into
> different files - pdf or raster - via the command line.


You can try our open source CaLi2CoPi library (PostScript code),
online via Ghostscript, to separate in PDF layers different graphic
elements (vectors, XObjects, inLine images, text, shading patterns and
FormXObjects), upload a PDF file e voilà...
http://www.l·l.cat/femfum/CaLi2CoPi_10/
...this is one of several specialized flags that performs jobs inside
PDF files. Here you have the project in SF...
http://femfumcali2copi.sourceforge.net/

Ciao,


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[NTG-context] Float on opposite page

2012-03-01 Thread Charles

Hi,

I have a problem with float positioning. I would like to have text on 
even pages and text on odd pages. I tried:


- "\placetable[opposite]" but then the tables are not included.
- "\placetable[rightpage]" but then each table is on a new page.

I would like to have my figures/tables on a new even page, but if 2 
figures/tables fit on one page, they should not be on two different 
pages but together on the same even page (I was thinking "opposite" 
should do that).


Thanks for your help

Charles


\setuppagenumbering[alternative=doublesided]

\starttext

Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, maecenas malesuada, ut tellus ac a egestas 
donec, lectus aliquam, purus orci fermentum porta sed. Ut quis risus 
suspendisse, convallis vel velit suspendisse amet diam urna, erat auctor 
vestibulum nec amet lorem, at fringilla cursus aenean donec dui at. 
Neque duis luctus netus magna, orci nulla vivamus consectetuer nulla, 
amet felis in sodales dictum parturient ipsum, consequuntur malesuada.


\placetable[opposite]{Legend 1}{Content of Table 1}

\placetable[opposite]{Legend 1}{Content of Table 2}

Vestibulum ut pretium fringilla dui dui odio, pellentesque arcu leo id. 
Malesuada curabitur, urna nostrum mauris lobortis, ante luctus donec a, 
congue arcu placerat dictum non integer, nulla non.


\stoptext
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Re: [NTG-context] Scribus vs ConTeXt

2012-03-01 Thread William Adams
On Feb 29, 2012, at 3:25 PM, Henning Hraban Ramm wrote:

> I'd like to add that the mentioned GUI programs all are scriptable -
> Scribus in Python (AFAIK), InDesign in JavaScript or AppleScript;
> don't know about the current state of XPress, in old versions on the
> Mac it supported Frontier, then AppleScript.

As I noted, the oars are customizable.

Unfortunately, there aren't many hooks in InDesign (and none I'm aware of in 
Quark) to activate scripts automatically, so that a document will build itself 
--- one which is pretty cool is Dirk Becker's auto-indexing script which will 
run a script to format index entries (so as to make up for InDesign's inability 
to capture character styles in index entries). Even more egregious is that many 
features in Quark are specifically prohibited from being scripted (last I 
checked), requiring one to use interface events.

Moreover, as was recently noted on the InDesign mailing list, long document 
support in InDesign is sorely lacking (the new span columns feature trumps keep 
specifications for minimum number lines in a paragraph for example, and it's 
all-too easy to have an index in a book be too large to be generated by 
InDesign in one pass, requiring one to do it in sections, then use a script or 
a specialty indexing program to merge the sub-indices.

Lastly, AIUI InDesign's (and probably Quark's) licensing prohibits remote usage 
from a server unless one purchases the Server version.

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Re: [NTG-context] Is it bibliography really problem for MKIV?

2012-03-01 Thread Jaroslav Hajtmar

Hello Thomas,
I have experimented a bit and found that the problem is not in the 
presence of citation in the caption of figure.
It seems that the problem does not occur only when you insert a figure 
without caption.


See the following example:

Jaroslav



\setupbibtex[database=sample]
\setuppublications[alternative=ams, sorttype=cite]

\starttext
citations are \cite[hh2010b] and \cite[hh2010a].

% \placefigure[force][fig1]{Caption of figure \cite[Eijkhout1991] with 
citation} % with problem

%   {\externalfigure[fig1]}

% \placefigure[force, none][fig1]{} %Figure without caption - no problem 
with bibliography

%{\externalfigure[fig1]}

\placefigure[force][fig1]{Caption of figure without citation} % with 
problem too

   {\externalfigure[fig1]}


\placepublications[criterium=cite]

\stoptext



Dne 1.3.2012 11:09, Thomas A. Schmitz napsal(a):

On 03/01/2012 10:49 AM, Jaroslav Hajtmar wrote:

Thanx Thomas
Thank you dealt with my problem. Maybe I'm the first to met this bug (if
a mistake is it).
Regarding the use of buffers: I'll have to remake it, because everything
I have in principle based just on buffers.
If I could not give a citation link to figure caption then would be a
huge problem. I'd probably have to deal manually finding bibliography
items and direct write its numbers into captions to square brackets (ie
without cite referencing). Although I do not think, it could cause this
problem. He is occurs even if the citation not appears in caption of
figure.

For me it is now very unfortunate that the thesis supervisor requires
strict order of bibliography as I wrote. I'll try to wait for a possible
correction, or try about hundred bibliographic items rearrange
"manually" so that it will by his requirement.
Once again, many thanks.
With greetings Jaroslav


Yes, it looks like nobody put \cite into captions before you, but I 
can imagine that this is a fairly normal requirement in the sciences. 
So this should in fact work, and you shouldn't have to do this 
manually, this is a bug and should be fixed. The question is a bit how 
urgently you need it. The bibliography mkiv code is something that 
only Hans can touch, so the fix will come, but it will probably take 
him some time.


Best wishes

Thomas



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Re: [NTG-context] Is it bibliography really problem for MKIV?

2012-03-01 Thread Thomas A. Schmitz

On 03/01/2012 10:49 AM, Jaroslav Hajtmar wrote:

Thanx Thomas
Thank you dealt with my problem. Maybe I'm the first to met this bug (if
a mistake is it).
Regarding the use of buffers: I'll have to remake it, because everything
I have in principle based just on buffers.
If I could not give a citation link to figure caption then would be a
huge problem. I'd probably have to deal manually finding bibliography
items and direct write its numbers into captions to square brackets (ie
without cite referencing). Although I do not think, it could cause this
problem. He is occurs even if the citation not appears in caption of
figure.

For me it is now very unfortunate that the thesis supervisor requires
strict order of bibliography as I wrote. I'll try to wait for a possible
correction, or try about hundred bibliographic items rearrange
"manually" so that it will by his requirement.
Once again, many thanks.
With greetings Jaroslav


Yes, it looks like nobody put \cite into captions before you, but I can 
imagine that this is a fairly normal requirement in the sciences. So 
this should in fact work, and you shouldn't have to do this manually, 
this is a bug and should be fixed. The question is a bit how urgently 
you need it. The bibliography mkiv code is something that only Hans can 
touch, so the fix will come, but it will probably take him some time.


Best wishes

Thomas
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Re: [NTG-context] Is it bibliography really problem for MKIV?

2012-03-01 Thread Jaroslav Hajtmar

Thanx Thomas
Thank you dealt with my problem. Maybe I'm the first to met this bug (if 
a mistake is it).
Regarding the use of buffers: I'll have to remake it, because everything 
I have in principle based just on buffers.
If I could not give a citation link to figure caption then would be a 
huge problem. I'd probably have to deal manually finding bibliography 
items and direct write its numbers into captions to square brackets (ie 
without cite referencing). Although I do not think, it could cause this 
problem. He is occurs even if the citation not appears in caption of figure.


For me it is now very unfortunate that the thesis supervisor requires 
strict order of bibliography as I wrote. I'll try to wait for a possible 
correction, or try about hundred bibliographic items rearrange 
"manually" so that it will by his requirement.

Once again, many thanks.
With greetings Jaroslav





Dne 1.3.2012 10:08, Thomas A. Schmitz napsal(a):

On 02/29/2012 09:33 PM, Jaroslav Hajtmar wrote:

Hello Thomas.
Thanks for your interest in my problem.

My problem is that while simple basic aplication works fine,  in complex
applications (including components, images, tables etc) is not
bibliography in the correct order, or there are errors in the references
to literature.


I had a look at your examples. First, if the sequence of cited items 
is important for you (and it is because you want sorttype=cite), I 
wouldn't put citations and figures into a buffer, that's asking for 
trouble. That leaves the problem with a \cite command within a 
caption. This looks like a real bug to me; I hope Hans has the time to 
look into it. The minimal example is:


\setupbibtex[database=sample]
\setuppublications[alternative=ams, sorttype=cite]

\starttext
citations are \cite[hh2010b] and \cite[hh2010a].

\placefigure[force][fig1]{Caption of figure \cite[Eijkhout1991]}
  {\externalfigure[fig1]}

\placepublications[criterium=cite]

\stoptext

All best

Thomas



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Re: [NTG-context] Is the \definecolumnsetspan still supported!?

2012-03-01 Thread Verhaag, G.C.H.M.

On 03/01/2012 09:55 AM, Hans Hagen wrote:

On 29-2-2012 16:22, Verhaag, G.C.H.M. wrote:

Hi all,

I want to use the \definecolumnsetspan for typesetting text in columns
as described in the Columns manual (2003) by Hans, but get an Undefined
control sequence ... error when using it!


no example, no answer

Hans





Hi,

Sorry, but here is the example file (testcol.tex) which doesn't compile 
using ConTeXt  ver: 2012.02.18 10:50 MKIV  fmt: 2012.2.18  int: 
english/english.


Thanks!

Regards,
Gerard Verhaag
\definecolumnset[example][n=3]
\definecolumnsetspan[wide][n=2,background=contrast]
\starttext
\startcolumnset[example]
\startcolumnsetspan[wide]
\dorecurse{40}{Zomaar een column tekst!}
\stopcolumnsetspan
\dorecurse{40}{Zomaar een column tekst!}
\stopcolumnset
\stoptext
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Re: [NTG-context] Is it bibliography really problem for MKIV?

2012-03-01 Thread Thomas A. Schmitz

On 02/29/2012 09:33 PM, Jaroslav Hajtmar wrote:

Hello Thomas.
Thanks for your interest in my problem.

My problem is that while simple basic aplication works fine,  in complex
applications (including components, images, tables etc) is not
bibliography in the correct order, or there are errors in the references
to literature.


I had a look at your examples. First, if the sequence of cited items is 
important for you (and it is because you want sorttype=cite), I wouldn't 
put citations and figures into a buffer, that's asking for trouble. That 
leaves the problem with a \cite command within a caption. This looks 
like a real bug to me; I hope Hans has the time to look into it. The 
minimal example is:


\setupbibtex[database=sample]
\setuppublications[alternative=ams, sorttype=cite]

\starttext
citations are \cite[hh2010b] and \cite[hh2010a].

\placefigure[force][fig1]{Caption of figure \cite[Eijkhout1991]}
 {\externalfigure[fig1]}

\placepublications[criterium=cite]

\stoptext

All best

Thomas
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Re: [NTG-context] Font embedding

2012-03-01 Thread Hans Hagen

On 29-2-2012 08:34, Honza Hejzl wrote:

Just a little P. S.

Here is the typical view of fully embedded fonts (Scribus made):
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/4393365/embedded.png


I wonder if that one has the proper tounicode vectors which are 
definitely needed when the printing house wants to cut / paste / mess 
around




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Re: [NTG-context] Is the \definecolumnsetspan still supported!?

2012-03-01 Thread Hans Hagen

On 29-2-2012 16:22, Verhaag, G.C.H.M. wrote:

Hi all,

I want to use the \definecolumnsetspan for typesetting text in columns
as described in the Columns manual (2003) by Hans, but get an Undefined
control sequence ... error when using it!


no example, no answer

Hans


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Re: [NTG-context] Project, product, component...

2012-03-01 Thread Hans Hagen

On 1-3-2012 09:30, Procházka Lukáš Ing. - Pontex s. r. o. wrote:

Hello,

as no new answer so far, I started to experiment.

It seems that [at least] component id(s) cannot be omitted:


the tags are (an always will be) mandate


I tested the case when all product/component ids were the same, i.e.
"_", as a dummy value.

As later the ids are referred nowhere, it seems that they are necessary
just due to syntactical rules.


they are also used in

- cross document referencing (component processing)
- logging and reporting
- keeping track of loading environments once
- internal pusp/pop states and hashes
- whatever we need in the future

(so, naming all environments _ will load only one)

Hans


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Re: [NTG-context] Project, product, component...

2012-03-01 Thread Procházka Lukáš Ing . - Pontex s . r . o .

Hello,

as no new answer so far, I started to experiment.

It seems that [at least] component id(s) cannot be omitted:

 Prod.mkiv
\startproduct % PPP
  \component Comp.mkiv

  Product
\stopproduct


And:

 Comp.mkiv
\startcomponent % CCC
  %\product Prod
  %\project Proj

  Component
\stopcomponent


- Gives a wrong product, as Prod.pdf doesn't include the component.

Another test:

 Prod.mkiv
\startproduct _ % PPP
  \component Comp.mkiv
  \component Comp2.mkiv

  Product
\stopproduct


And:

 Comp.mkiv
\startcomponent _ % CCC
  Component
\stopcomponent


 Comp2.mkiv
\startcomponent _ % CCC
  Component2
\stopcomponent


Gives a good result.

So it seems that [at least some] ids are required, and just not-to-be-empty.

I tested the case when all product/component ids were the same, i.e. "_", as a 
dummy value.

As later the ids are referred nowhere, it seems that they are necessary just 
due to syntactical rules.

Or - ?

Lukas


On Tue, 28 Feb 2012 19:01:52 +0100, Marco  wrote:


On 2012-02-28 Jaroslav Hajtmar  wrote:


Project structure  use quite often,  but yet similar  question not
occurred to me.


It's a very  interesting question, I was asking myself  the same and
I'm curious about  the answer. The ConTeXt magazine  #1101 - Project
Structure¹ is reserved about this topic and simply states:

  “The names given after the start command are not that important…”


I had always  previously PPP and CCC as existing  filenames on the
disk.


I always used filenames, too.


But I would like to extend  Luke's question on this issue: You can
load an existing component to other components?


The  ConTeXt  magazine  #1101  includes  a  table  of  the  possible
combinations  of  the commands.  From  this  table I  conclude  that
components are allowed between:

∙ \starttext  \stoptext
∙ \startcomponent \stopcomponent
∙ \startproduct   \stopproduct

Marco

[1] http://pragma-ade.com/general/magazines/mag-1101.pdf


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