Re: [NTG-context] Project structure

2014-02-09 Thread Pol Stra
Le jeudi 6 février 2014, 22:25:05 Marco Patzer a écrit :
 On 2014–02–05 pol stra wrote:
  The problem is that only text of first introduction is used.
 
 You can use \allinputpaths to see what's going on. The paths are
 indeed added and ConTeXt walks through the list and uses a matching
 file, if found. This happens to always be the file of the first
 chapter.
 
 I don't know know of a command which resets the custom set up paths.
 If none exists, I doubt it will be hard to implement.
 
  I attached the project structure.
 
 Thanks for that.
 
 Marco

So, if I well understood, their is currently no solution but give a different 
name for each file?

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[NTG-context] Problem with integral sign

2014-02-09 Thread Jaroslav Hajtmar

Hello ConTeXist.

I googled a long time, but did not come across anything relevant.

How can type big integral sign to result looked good?

Here is my example:

\startformula
\int \frac{P_n(x)}{Q_m(x)} \, \mathrm{d}x, \quad nm
\stopformula


Thanx
Jaroslav Hajtmar


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[NTG-context] OT: Reflections on usability ConTeXt for typesetting of mathematics

2014-02-09 Thread Jaroslav Hajtmar

Hello ConTeXist.
I am very sorry for this OFF TOPIC contribution.

For writing of this text led me several hours of searching on internet. 
I was looking for ways to typing of non-elementary math in ConTeXt


Already a long time I use ConTeXt typesetting lot of different things 
and I am very satisfied. In the many things, of which I typed, was maths 
represented only marginally and minimally. Now I need to type some 
mathematics (at secondary school level) and I found that I came across 
borders of my knowledge of ConTeXt, or on possibilities of ConTeXt for 
typesetting of mathematics.
I do not in any way call into question the ability of ConTeXt 
typesetting mathematics, although I think that who wants to type 
mathematics then use LaTeX.
I want find experience of users of ConTeXt for real using of ConTeXt for 
typesetting of mathematics. I wonder how users use possible math modules 
(exist anything?) to be usable results.


I have a few questions:

0. Do you think that this is only a problem for beginners of ConText or 
it is a general problem of ConTeXt?
1. How many of ConTeXt users use this tool for typesetting of 
non-elementary mathematics?
2. Are you satisfied with the results, which produces ConTeXt (thinking 
in the field of mathematics rate)?
3. What things do you need to have in ConTeXt study that one could bet 
mathematics at a reasonable level?
4. Is ConTeXt able to substitute LaTeX to typesetting of math (e.g. in 
the future)?

5. Can you think of any more questions that should be here?


I hope that my question will help other beginners who would like to 
typing of mathematics use ConText - this unique and useful tool.


Thanks for all the answers.

Jaroslav Hajtmar


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Re: [NTG-context] Problem with integral sign

2014-02-09 Thread Marco Patzer
On 2014–02–09 Jaroslav Hajtmar wrote:

 How can type big integral sign to result looked good?
 
 Here is my example:
 
 \startformula
 \int \frac{P_n(x)}{Q_m(x)} \, \mathrm{d}x, \quad nm
 \stopformula

I don't know how to reduce the space between the integral sign and
the fraction (I assume that's what you meant, by “not looking good”)
except using a manual correction (e.g. \!, or
\edef\int{\int\mskip-10mu}).

As a side note: \mathrm is a font switch, it doesn't take an
argument. Use {\mathrm d}x instead of \mathrm{d}x.

Marco


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Re: [NTG-context] OT: Reflections on usability ConTeXt for typesetting of mathematics

2014-02-09 Thread Otared Kavian
Hi,

I do use ConTeXt for typesetting mathematics, and actually I began to use 
ConTeXt several years ago for my work as a mathematician: up to now I haven’t 
encountered a single instance in which ConTeXt would not give the expected 
result, and as a matter of fact the out-of-the-box capabilities and the quality 
of the typestting when using ConTeXt seems to me quite superior to plain TeX or 
LaTeX. I use ConTeXt for writing exercise sheets, lecture notes, and drafts of 
papers and all the presentations for my talks.
It is true that when submitting my papers to journals, unfortunately I have to 
switch back to LaTeX, but even so I prefer using ConTeXt in all the preparation 
steps because it is more convenient to use, and also I can use these notes 
directly for my lecture notes and presentations. 

Now coming to answer your questions:

 I have a few questions:
 
 0. Do you think that this is only a problem for beginners of ConText or it is 
 a general problem of ConTeXt?

All depends on how complex one's document is, and how deep one’s knowledge of 
TeX and ConTeXt is.

 1. How many of ConTeXt users use this tool for typesetting of non-elementary 
 mathematics?

I cannot say anything about the overall number of users, but as I said above I 
use it for the kind of maths I am doing: some of it is really not elementary…

 2. Are you satisfied with the results, which produces ConTeXt (thinking in 
 the field of mathematics rate)?

I am absolutely satisfied with the results.

 3. What things do you need to have in ConTeXt study that one could bet 
 mathematics at a reasonable level?

My knowledge of TeX and ConTeXt is rather elementary, but this does not prevent 
me to use ConTeXt. Moreover in the rare situations in which I don’t know how to 
achieve a certain result, there a good group of gurus on the mailing list to 
help solve my problem.

 4. Is ConTeXt able to substitute LaTeX to typesetting of math (e.g. in the 
 future)?

For sure it is: the reason for which ConTeXt is seldom used among 
mathematicians (or other scientists) is the fact that journals have developped 
specific macros for their layout and despite the fact that the quality and 
shortcomings of LaTeX are well-known, publishers of these journals are more 
than reluctant to switch to a more modern macro package of TeX, such as ConTeXt.

 5. Can you think of any more questions that should be here?

Maybe one can imagine a script which would downgrade a file written in ConTeXt 
to a LaTeX file, once one accepts to lose the quality of the typesetting…

Best regards: OK

On 9 févr. 2014, at 20:09, Jaroslav Hajtmar hajt...@gyza.cz wrote:

 Hello ConTeXist.
 I am very sorry for this OFF TOPIC contribution.
 
 For writing of this text led me several hours of searching on internet. I was 
 looking for ways to typing of non-elementary math in ConTeXt
 
 Already a long time I use ConTeXt typesetting lot of different things and I 
 am very satisfied. In the many things, of which I typed, was maths 
 represented only marginally and minimally. Now I need to type some 
 mathematics (at secondary school level) and I found that I came across 
 borders of my knowledge of ConTeXt, or on possibilities of ConTeXt for 
 typesetting of mathematics.
 I do not in any way call into question the ability of ConTeXt typesetting 
 mathematics, although I think that who wants to type mathematics then use 
 LaTeX.
 I want find experience of users of ConTeXt for real using of ConTeXt for 
 typesetting of mathematics. I wonder how users use possible math modules 
 (exist anything?) to be usable results.
 
 I have a few questions:
 
 0. Do you think that this is only a problem for beginners of ConText or it is 
 a general problem of ConTeXt?
 1. How many of ConTeXt users use this tool for typesetting of non-elementary 
 mathematics?
 2. Are you satisfied with the results, which produces ConTeXt (thinking in 
 the field of mathematics rate)?
 3. What things do you need to have in ConTeXt study that one could bet 
 mathematics at a reasonable level?
 4. Is ConTeXt able to substitute LaTeX to typesetting of math (e.g. in the 
 future)?
 5. Can you think of any more questions that should be here?
 
 
 I hope that my question will help other beginners who would like to typing of 
 mathematics use ConText - this unique and useful tool.
 
 Thanks for all the answers.
 
 Jaroslav Hajtmar
 
 
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Re: [NTG-context] OT: Reflections on usability ConTeXt for typesetting of mathematics

2014-02-09 Thread Jaroslav Hajtmar

Thanks Otared.
Many thanks for your reaction.  Even if I would not not make any other 
statement than yours, so I'm clear at this time that the problem is 
probably sitting in front of a keyboard and monitor :-).


Perhaps the problem is that the Internet is relatively little of 
mathematical demonstrations in ConTeXt, and if one is accustomed to some 
practices in LaTeX or use different packages, it can be a little taken 
aback ConTeXt. Now I also found that even though I dont switch fonts, so 
I worked in an environment that me from switching fonts and therefore 
some formulas look very bad. But it is my wrong.
I've got to give more attention. Enthusiasm for my current project takes 
patience and sound reasoning. I've to give a time to prevents my mistakes.

When I am not careful, then I am doing many of dificult searchable errors.

Thanks for ConTeXt and thanks to all in this list for your advice and help.

Jaroslav Hajtmar






Dne 9.2.2014 23:31, Otared Kavian napsal(a):

Hi,

I do use ConTeXt for typesetting mathematics, and actually I began to use 
ConTeXt several years ago for my work as a mathematician: up to now I haven’t 
encountered a single instance in which ConTeXt would not give the expected 
result, and as a matter of fact the out-of-the-box capabilities and the quality 
of the typestting when using ConTeXt seems to me quite superior to plain TeX or 
LaTeX. I use ConTeXt for writing exercise sheets, lecture notes, and drafts of 
papers and all the presentations for my talks.
It is true that when submitting my papers to journals, unfortunately I have to 
switch back to LaTeX, but even so I prefer using ConTeXt in all the preparation 
steps because it is more convenient to use, and also I can use these notes 
directly for my lecture notes and presentations.

Now coming to answer your questions:


I have a few questions:

0. Do you think that this is only a problem for beginners of ConText or it is a 
general problem of ConTeXt?

All depends on how complex one's document is, and how deep one’s knowledge of 
TeX and ConTeXt is.


1. How many of ConTeXt users use this tool for typesetting of non-elementary 
mathematics?

I cannot say anything about the overall number of users, but as I said above I 
use it for the kind of maths I am doing: some of it is really not elementary…


2. Are you satisfied with the results, which produces ConTeXt (thinking in the 
field of mathematics rate)?

I am absolutely satisfied with the results.


3. What things do you need to have in ConTeXt study that one could bet 
mathematics at a reasonable level?

My knowledge of TeX and ConTeXt is rather elementary, but this does not prevent 
me to use ConTeXt. Moreover in the rare situations in which I don’t know how to 
achieve a certain result, there a good group of gurus on the mailing list to 
help solve my problem.


4. Is ConTeXt able to substitute LaTeX to typesetting of math (e.g. in the 
future)?

For sure it is: the reason for which ConTeXt is seldom used among 
mathematicians (or other scientists) is the fact that journals have developped 
specific macros for their layout and despite the fact that the quality and 
shortcomings of LaTeX are well-known, publishers of these journals are more 
than reluctant to switch to a more modern macro package of TeX, such as ConTeXt.


5. Can you think of any more questions that should be here?

Maybe one can imagine a script which would downgrade a file written in ConTeXt 
to a LaTeX file, once one accepts to lose the quality of the typesetting…

Best regards: OK

On 9 févr. 2014, at 20:09, Jaroslav Hajtmar hajt...@gyza.cz wrote:


Hello ConTeXist.
I am very sorry for this OFF TOPIC contribution.

For writing of this text led me several hours of searching on internet. I was 
looking for ways to typing of non-elementary math in ConTeXt

Already a long time I use ConTeXt typesetting lot of different things and I am 
very satisfied. In the many things, of which I typed, was maths represented 
only marginally and minimally. Now I need to type some mathematics (at 
secondary school level) and I found that I came across borders of my knowledge 
of ConTeXt, or on possibilities of ConTeXt for typesetting of mathematics.
I do not in any way call into question the ability of ConTeXt typesetting 
mathematics, although I think that who wants to type mathematics then use LaTeX.
I want find experience of users of ConTeXt for real using of ConTeXt for 
typesetting of mathematics. I wonder how users use possible math modules (exist 
anything?) to be usable results.

I have a few questions:

0. Do you think that this is only a problem for beginners of ConText or it is a 
general problem of ConTeXt?
1. How many of ConTeXt users use this tool for typesetting of non-elementary 
mathematics?
2. Are you satisfied with the results, which produces ConTeXt (thinking in the 
field of mathematics rate)?
3. What things do you need to have in ConTeXt study that one could bet 
mathematics at a 

Re: [NTG-context] OT: Reflections on usability ConTeXt for typesetting of mathematics

2014-02-09 Thread Shree Devi Kumar
It maybe helpful for beginners if there were sample documents for
mathematical typesetting  (for the current version of context) that could
be used as a start for their own projects.

Maybe list members can contribute some for addition to the documentation
wiki.



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