Re: [NTG-context] memoir-style chapter heading

2020-08-17 Thread jbf
I meant to include an example of what I mean, since at least it seems to 
work (am including just the definition part of your example), So at 
least I can get middle and right alignment.


\define[2]\MemoirChapter
 {\midaligned{\startoverlay
  {#1}
  {#2}
    \stopoverlay}}

Julian

On 17/8/20 4:54 pm, Aditya Mahajan wrote:

On Mon, 17 Aug 2020, jbf wrote:


Am completely new to using Metafun, which I presume I would need to use
to achieve a Hansen Memoir-style Chapter heading (chapter title
overlayed on a large lightgray number). Of course, I am assuming I would
need to use Metafun to create this...

So my first question is to ask if I could achieve the same effect
without Metafun?

I have read through the Metafun manual, and I think I can understand how
to overlay text on a graphic (MP), but it would be currently beyond me
to draw numbers of the kind we find in, say, the Memoir examples.

Has anyone created such an example? I was keenly looking for one in the
manual and elsewhere, in terms of ConTeXt/Metafun commands, but could
not find one. But I'd be quite prepared to 'have a go' at this, if I had
some pointers of just where to start! I assume I would have to
\defineoverlay[number] and then add text on top \framed (but without the
frame borders). Am I at least correct about this?

You don't need metafun for something this simple. Here is a crude 
implementation:

\setuphead[chapter]
   [
 numberstyle={\switchtobodyfont[48pt]},
 numbercolor=gray,
 alternative=command,
 command=\MemoirChapter,
   ]

\define[2]\MemoirChapter%
   {\startoverlay
   {#1}
   {#2}
 \stopoverlay}
   


\starttext
\startchapter[title={This is a test}]
\stopchapter

\stoptext

Overlays don't allow tuning the location...for that you need layers. See the 
chapter on ornaments in the details manual, which also explains an alternative 
method to set title of chapters (toward the end of that chapter), which is 
useful if you need absolute positioning.

Aditya


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Re: [NTG-context] memoir-style chapter heading

2020-08-17 Thread jbf
Thanks Aditya. The 'quick and simple' explanation below helps me to 
grasp some concepts I had not been clear about earlier. While you say 
that overlays 'don't allow tuning' for positioning, is this only in 
terms of absolute positioning?


It would be so helpful if we could get at least a middle or right 
alignment with this simple approach.


I have read the 'Details' approach you have indicated, though am still 
to get my head around it. Understanding overlays is one thing. 
Understanding layers yet another.


Julian

On 17/8/20 4:54 pm, Aditya Mahajan wrote:

On Mon, 17 Aug 2020, jbf wrote:


Am completely new to using Metafun, which I presume I would need to use
to achieve a Hansen Memoir-style Chapter heading (chapter title
overlayed on a large lightgray number). Of course, I am assuming I would
need to use Metafun to create this...

So my first question is to ask if I could achieve the same effect
without Metafun?

I have read through the Metafun manual, and I think I can understand how
to overlay text on a graphic (MP), but it would be currently beyond me
to draw numbers of the kind we find in, say, the Memoir examples.

Has anyone created such an example? I was keenly looking for one in the
manual and elsewhere, in terms of ConTeXt/Metafun commands, but could
not find one. But I'd be quite prepared to 'have a go' at this, if I had
some pointers of just where to start! I assume I would have to
\defineoverlay[number] and then add text on top \framed (but without the
frame borders). Am I at least correct about this?

You don't need metafun for something this simple. Here is a crude 
implementation:

\setuphead[chapter]
   [
 numberstyle={\switchtobodyfont[48pt]},
 numbercolor=gray,
 alternative=command,
 command=\MemoirChapter,
   ]

\define[2]\MemoirChapter%
   {\startoverlay
   {#1}
   {#2}
 \stopoverlay}
   


\starttext
\startchapter[title={This is a test}]
\stopchapter

\stoptext

Overlays don't allow tuning the location...for that you need layers. See the 
chapter on ornaments in the details manual, which also explains an alternative 
method to set title of chapters (toward the end of that chapter), which is 
useful if you need absolute positioning.

Aditya


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Re: [NTG-context] memoir-style chapter heading

2020-08-17 Thread Aditya Mahajan
On Mon, 17 Aug 2020, jbf wrote:

> Am completely new to using Metafun, which I presume I would need to use 
> to achieve a Hansen Memoir-style Chapter heading (chapter title 
> overlayed on a large lightgray number). Of course, I am assuming I would 
> need to use Metafun to create this...
> 
> So my first question is to ask if I could achieve the same effect 
> without Metafun?
> 
> I have read through the Metafun manual, and I think I can understand how 
> to overlay text on a graphic (MP), but it would be currently beyond me 
> to draw numbers of the kind we find in, say, the Memoir examples.
> 
> Has anyone created such an example? I was keenly looking for one in the 
> manual and elsewhere, in terms of ConTeXt/Metafun commands, but could 
> not find one. But I'd be quite prepared to 'have a go' at this, if I had 
> some pointers of just where to start! I assume I would have to 
> \defineoverlay[number] and then add text on top \framed (but without the 
> frame borders). Am I at least correct about this?

You don't need metafun for something this simple. Here is a crude 
implementation:

\setuphead[chapter]
  [
numberstyle={\switchtobodyfont[48pt]},
numbercolor=gray,
alternative=command,
command=\MemoirChapter,
  ]

\define[2]\MemoirChapter%
  {\startoverlay
  {#1}
  {#2}
\stopoverlay}
  

\starttext
\startchapter[title={This is a test}]
\stopchapter

\stoptext

Overlays don't allow tuning the location...for that you need layers. See the 
chapter on ornaments in the details manual, which also explains an alternative 
method to set title of chapters (toward the end of that chapter), which is 
useful if you need absolute positioning.

Aditya


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