[NTG-context] LuaTeX-plain - Get well-know function names like sin cos to display in roman

2014-05-17 Thread Aíre Funvake
Hi there,

Am used to seeing the names of well known functions in upright math
font, instead of italics. With LaTeX, it seems, this is default,
plus one can use macros like `\mathrm` or `\textrm` for other text.
An `\hbox{}` too, in plain TeX, but not around `\sin`, for example.

With ConTeXt's LuaTeX-Plain format (may ConTeXt itself as well),
these functions are in italics. Is it possible to control this via
the redefinition of the math fonts? Following does not work for me:

\font\lmromr   =
   {LucidaBrightMathOT:mode=base} at 14pt
\font\lmromi   =
   {LucidaBrightMathOT:mode=base}  at 14pt
\font\lmromsr  =
   {LucidaBrightMathOT:mode=base;script=math;ssty=0} at 12pt
\font\lmromsi  =
   {LucidaBrightMathOT:mode=base;script=math;ssty=0} at 12pt
\font\lmromssr =
   {LucidaBrightMathOT:mode=base;script=math;ssty=1} at 10pt
\font\lmromssi =
   {LucidaBrightMathOT:mode=base;script=math;ssty=1} at 10pt

\textfont0 = \lmromr%--sin, cos, numbers
\scriptfont0 = \lmromsr %
\scriptscriptfont0 = \lmromssr  %
\textfont1 = \lmromi%--variables
\scriptfont1 = \lmromsi %
\scriptscriptfont1 = \lmromssi  %
\textfont2 = \lmromr%--symbols
\scriptfont2 = \lmromsr %
\scriptscriptfont2 = \lmromssr  %
\textfont3 = \lmromr%--extras
\scriptfont3 = \lmromsr %
\scriptscriptfont3 = \lmromssr  %

Same for CambriaMath or LatinModernRomanMath. For `\font0`,
tried a non-math font, but it did not work. How to set
`\font0` to use roman? and `\font1` to use italics?

Thanks in advance,
Aire.

PS. Info from Khaled Hosny: [http://www.khaledhosny.org/node/131]
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Re: [NTG-context] LuaTeX-plain File Database Problem

2014-05-16 Thread Aíre Funvake
On Thu May 15 23:23:07 2014, Aíre Funvake wrote:
 On Thu May 15 23:07:40 2014, Aditya Mahajan wrote:
 On Thu, 15 May 2014, Aíre Funvake wrote:

 Hi all,

 Never felt so incompetent in my life -- just cannot get LuaTeX to
 find fonts or `*.tex` files for use with `\input filename`, or
 `font\xxx = font-or-filename`. Even though, these commands were
 executed (all I could find):

   mktexlsr
   mtxrun --script base --generate
   luatools --generate
   context --generate
   mtxrun --script fonts --update --force
   mtxrun --script fonts --udpate --simple

 Tried putting files in (in the roots and subdirectories):

   ~/texmf
   ~/ctx/tex/texmf-project
   ~/ctx/tex/texmf-local
   ~/ctx/tex/texmf-fonts

 Checked if the file could be found:

   luatools --find-file .tex   --- finds it
   luatools --find-file xxx.otf--- finds it
   mtxrun --locate .tex--- finds it
   mtxrun --locate xxx.otf --- finds it
   kpsewhich/where --- finds only if in `~/texmf`

 In .tex file (even when files are in `~/texmf` dir):

   \input   or .tex--- no luck
   \font\myfont = name:--- no luck
   \font\myfont = file:.otf--- no luck

 Sorry, but reading and searching for hours did not bring any solu-
 tion. Not sure if there is a configuration file like `texmf.cnf` or
 the `context.cnf` that must be modified, or and environment var-
 iable like `TEXMFHOME` (default seems to be `~/texmf`, and that's
 OK, if only it would only work).

 Sorry to spam this list with questions which may seem very
 fundamental to you. Hope to be able to reciprocate sometime.
 What am I missing?

 Read about TDS (TeX Directory Structure).

 You need to put files in $TEXMF/tex/plain/ subdirectory for Plain
 format to find it, or in $TEXMF/tex/generic/ subdirectory for all
 macro packages (plain, latex, context) to find it.

 Aditya

 Thank you, will re-read it forthwith, must have missed something.
 It just feels wrong to put re-usable project files inside the
 distribution tree. Still feel like an idiot, if not more so.

 Can anyone enlighten me then as to the purpose of `$HOME/texmf`,
 `$TEXMF/tex/texmf-local`, `$TEXMF/tex/texmf-fonts`, etc.,
 considering they are all, for example, configured in the file:
 `$TEXMF/tex/texmf/web2c/texmf.cnf`? Which I assumed incorrectly
 it seems, the name resolvers would use.

http://tex.stackexchange.com/questions/177459/learning-plain-tex-via-contexts-luatex-plain-format

Maybe helpful to someone.


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Re: [NTG-context] LuaTeX-plain File Database Problem

2014-05-16 Thread Aíre Funvake
On Fri May 16 23:51:08 2014, Hans Hagen wrote:
 On 5/16/2014 10:56 PM, Aíre Funvake wrote:
 On Thu May 15 23:23:07 2014, Aíre Funvake wrote:
 On Thu May 15 23:07:40 2014, Aditya Mahajan wrote:
 On Thu, 15 May 2014, Aíre Funvake wrote:

 Hi all,

 Never felt so incompetent in my life -- just cannot get LuaTeX to
 find fonts or `*.tex` files for use with `\input filename`, or
 `font\xxx = font-or-filename`. Even though, these commands were
 executed (all I could find):

mktexlsr
mtxrun --script base --generate
luatools --generate
context --generate
mtxrun --script fonts --update --force
mtxrun --script fonts --udpate --simple

 Tried putting files in (in the roots and subdirectories):

~/texmf
~/ctx/tex/texmf-project
~/ctx/tex/texmf-local
~/ctx/tex/texmf-fonts

 Checked if the file could be found:

luatools --find-file .tex   --- finds it
luatools --find-file xxx.otf--- finds it
mtxrun --locate .tex--- finds it
mtxrun --locate xxx.otf --- finds it
kpsewhich/where --- finds only if in `~/texmf`

 In .tex file (even when files are in `~/texmf` dir):

\input   or .tex--- no luck
\font\myfont = name:--- no luck
\font\myfont = file:.otf--- no luck

 Sorry, but reading and searching for hours did not bring any solu-
 tion. Not sure if there is a configuration file like `texmf.cnf` or
 the `context.cnf` that must be modified, or and environment var-
 iable like `TEXMFHOME` (default seems to be `~/texmf`, and that's
 OK, if only it would only work).

 Sorry to spam this list with questions which may seem very
 fundamental to you. Hope to be able to reciprocate sometime.
 What am I missing?

 Read about TDS (TeX Directory Structure).

 You need to put files in $TEXMF/tex/plain/ subdirectory for Plain
 format to find it, or in $TEXMF/tex/generic/ subdirectory for all
 macro packages (plain, latex, context) to find it.

 Aditya

 Thank you, will re-read it forthwith, must have missed something.
 It just feels wrong to put re-usable project files inside the
 distribution tree. Still feel like an idiot, if not more so.

 project specific files go into

 texroot/texmf-project/tex/context/user

 additional fonts into

 texroot/texmf-fonts/fonts/data

 these are in the tds tree but never overwritten

 Can anyone enlighten me then as to the purpose of `$HOME/texmf`,
 `$TEXMF/tex/texmf-local`, `$TEXMF/tex/texmf-fonts`, etc.,
 considering they are all, for example, configured in the file:
 `$TEXMF/tex/texmf/web2c/texmf.cnf`? Which I assumed incorrectly
 it seems, the name resolvers would use.

 http://tex.stackexchange.com/questions/177459/learning-plain-tex-via-contexts-luatex-plain-format


 context mkiv doesn't use texmf.cnf at all but texmfcnf.lua instead
 (and also has its own file management subsystem)

 already right from the start context had process management with
 'texmfstart + texexec' (mkii) and 'mtxrun + context' (mkiv)

 Hans

Thank you very much. Does this apply to LuaTeX-plain as well
(`luatex.exe --fmt luatex-plain`)? LuaTeX works fine if I set
 `$TEXMFHOME` (MacOSX) or `%TEXMFHOME%` (Windows) environment
variables, or put files in default location `$HOME/texmf` (Mac).
But otherwise, I seem to have problems. Will try the to use
the `texmf-project/..` and `texmf-fonts/..` directories though.

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Re: [NTG-context] LuaTeX-plain OpenType Features Select

2014-05-15 Thread Aíre Funvake
On Wed May 14 00:16:54 2014, Philipp Gesang wrote:
 ···date: 2014-05-13, Tuesday···from: Hans Hagen···

 On 5/13/2014 8:16 PM, Aíre Funvake wrote:
 On Tue May 13 19:56:34 2014, Hans Hagen wrote:
 On 5/13/2014 7:48 PM, Aíre Funvake wrote:
 On Mon May 12 23:12:06 2014, Aíre Funvake wrote:
 On 2014-05-12, 22:59 , Aíre Funvake wrote:
 On Mon May 12 22:52:43 2014, Hans Hagen wrote:
 On 5/12/2014 10:46 PM, Aíre Funvake wrote:
 On Mon May 12 22:01:04 2014, Hans Hagen wrote:
 On 5/12/2014 9:48 PM, Aíre Funvake wrote:
 Hi all,

 Trying to select slashed zero and lining figures from a
 font. For Lucida Bright OT, as another example, +scmp works,
 but not for Charter ITC Pro. But the font that concerns me
 the most right now, is TheSansMono Condensed...

 Font URL:
 http://www.lucasfonts.com/fonts/thesansmono/thesansmono-condensed/features/




 PDF Info:
 https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/6613992/TheSansMonoCd-info.pdf

 8---minimal example8
 \newdimen\fntcodesz
 \fntcodesz = 11.5pt
 \font\kwr = name:thesansmonocdw5regular:+lnum;+zero at \fntcodesz
 \kwr
 0123456789
 \bye
 8--8

 sometimes you need to select a script/language combination too
 or when
 digits are concerned disable oldstyle

 I'm too inexperienced to know what that means, or how to apply that.

 there is some info in font manuals and the context wiki

 I've opened the font in FontForge, and can see the glyphs I'm
 looking for, but again, it does not carry much applicable meaning
 for me. For example, can I use this information?:

 Slash 0, Lining Figures: (0x10120) U+0030 zero.lf.slashed DIGIT
 ZERO
  1, Lining Figures: (0x10121) U+0031 one.lf DIGIT ONE
  ...
 Slash 0, Basic: (0x1012b) U+0030 zero.basic.slashed DIGIT ZERO
  1, Basic: (0x1012c) U+0031 one.basic DIGIT ONE
  ...

 so you need to select the lnum feature too

 Was this not it?:
 ...
 \font\kwr = name:thesansmonocdw5regular:+lnum;+zero at \fntcodesz
 ...
 But thanks; will keep on reading; if solution found, will add it here.
 Regards,
 Aíre

 Solution:
 \font\tt = name:thesansmonocdw5regular:script=latn;+lnum;+zero} at 12pt
 Thank you!


 Spoke too soon. The zero.slashed is selected, instead of
 zero.lf.slashed,
 so that the zero is smaller than the rest of the lining figure numbers.
 In
 desperation, tried luatex with 'luaotfload.sty' under TeXLive2013, and
 it
 worked fine. `;color=XX` also works with `luaotfload`, but not with
 LuaTeX-plain from ConTeXt.

 no, and that is unlikely to show up in context as it makes no sense to
 specify colors that way .. just use the normal color commands

 Any ideas would be welcome. Exhausted Google query permutations and most
 font info if for LaTeX, pdfTeX, pdfLaTeX, LuaLaTeX or ConTeXt.

 Can I maybe as a hack switch the glyphs, or something?

 how about adding

mode=node

 in the plain setup (often not needed in context)

 Hans

 Thanks for the reply. Tried `mode=node`. Read about it, but never
 thought
 of putting it here!? The correct specification then is:

 \font\mono = {TheSansMonoCd-W5Regular:%
   script=latn;+lnum;+zero;mode=node} at \fntsze

 Confused about the color though. Read most of luatexref-t.pdf, and may
 have missed it. The only reference (and it works in `luaotfload` under
 TeXLive2013) is like this:

 \font\mono = {TheSansMonoCd-W5Regular:%
   script=latn;+lnum;+zero;mode=node;color=336699} at \fntsze
 

 so it looks like oftload adds that (or maybe the latex font definition
 code) but even then, it's probably implemented someplace else in the
 latex code

 Found no other reference to setting color on fonts in LuaTeX-plain (the
 ConTeXt version). Would love a pointer to the information though.

 it must be something latex i think (maybe to provide xetex
 compatibility) but it's definitely not in luatex (nor will be) and also
 not in context (which has more advanced color support than hex specs
 anyway)

 That’s correct. The “color” key triggers a custom callback that
 tints every glyph of the defined font. It’s part of Luaotfload
 solely for compatibility for Xetex. IMO it’s not worth the
 hassle; I recommend using a proper color package instead.

Thank you for the kind advice, Philipp. Is there a color package
that works with ConTeXt's luatex-plain.fmt that you can suggest?

 if you want color, use context instead of plain

 Probably the best suggestion =)

Noted. My ultimate goal.

 Philipp

Regards,
Aíre

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[NTG-context] LuaTeX-plain File Database Problem

2014-05-15 Thread Aíre Funvake
Hi all,

Never felt so incompetent in my life -- just cannot get LuaTeX to
find fonts or `*.tex` files for use with `\input filename`, or
`font\xxx = font-or-filename`. Even though, these commands were
executed (all I could find):

   mktexlsr
   mtxrun --script base --generate
   luatools --generate
   context --generate
   mtxrun --script fonts --update --force
   mtxrun --script fonts --udpate --simple

Tried putting files in (in the roots and subdirectories):

   ~/texmf
   ~/ctx/tex/texmf-project
   ~/ctx/tex/texmf-local
   ~/ctx/tex/texmf-fonts

Checked if the file could be found:

   luatools --find-file .tex   --- finds it
   luatools --find-file xxx.otf--- finds it
   mtxrun --locate .tex--- finds it
   mtxrun --locate xxx.otf --- finds it
   kpsewhich/where --- finds only if in `~/texmf`

In .tex file (even when files are in `~/texmf` dir):

   \input   or .tex--- no luck
   \font\myfont = name:--- no luck
   \font\myfont = file:.otf--- no luck

Sorry, but reading and searching for hours did not bring any solu-
tion. Not sure if there is a configuration file like `texmf.cnf` or
 the `context.cnf` that must be modified, or and environment var-
iable like `TEXMFHOME` (default seems to be `~/texmf`, and that's
OK, if only it would only work).

Sorry to spam this list with questions which may seem very
fundamental to you. Hope to be able to reciprocate sometime.
What am I missing?

Thank you kindly,
Aíre.
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Re: [NTG-context] LuaTeX-plain File Database Problem

2014-05-15 Thread Aíre Funvake
On Thu May 15 23:07:40 2014, Aditya Mahajan wrote:
 On Thu, 15 May 2014, Aíre Funvake wrote:

 Hi all,

 Never felt so incompetent in my life -- just cannot get LuaTeX to
 find fonts or `*.tex` files for use with `\input filename`, or
 `font\xxx = font-or-filename`. Even though, these commands were
 executed (all I could find):

   mktexlsr
   mtxrun --script base --generate
   luatools --generate
   context --generate
   mtxrun --script fonts --update --force
   mtxrun --script fonts --udpate --simple

 Tried putting files in (in the roots and subdirectories):

   ~/texmf
   ~/ctx/tex/texmf-project
   ~/ctx/tex/texmf-local
   ~/ctx/tex/texmf-fonts

 Checked if the file could be found:

   luatools --find-file .tex   --- finds it
   luatools --find-file xxx.otf--- finds it
   mtxrun --locate .tex--- finds it
   mtxrun --locate xxx.otf --- finds it
   kpsewhich/where --- finds only if in `~/texmf`

 In .tex file (even when files are in `~/texmf` dir):

   \input   or .tex--- no luck
   \font\myfont = name:--- no luck
   \font\myfont = file:.otf--- no luck

 Sorry, but reading and searching for hours did not bring any solu-
 tion. Not sure if there is a configuration file like `texmf.cnf` or
 the `context.cnf` that must be modified, or and environment var-
 iable like `TEXMFHOME` (default seems to be `~/texmf`, and that's
 OK, if only it would only work).

 Sorry to spam this list with questions which may seem very
 fundamental to you. Hope to be able to reciprocate sometime.
 What am I missing?

 Read about TDS (TeX Directory Structure).

 You need to put files in $TEXMF/tex/plain/ subdirectory for Plain
 format to find it, or in $TEXMF/tex/generic/ subdirectory for all
 macro packages (plain, latex, context) to find it.

 Aditya

Thank you, will re-read it forthwith, must have missed something.
It just feels wrong to put re-usable project files inside the
distribution tree. Still feel like an idiot, if not more so.

Can anyone enlighten me then as to the purpose of `$HOME/texmf`,
`$TEXMF/tex/texmf-local`, `$TEXMF/tex/texmf-fonts`, etc.,
considering they are all, for example, configured in the file:
`$TEXMF/tex/texmf/web2c/texmf.cnf`? Which I assumed incorrectly
it seems, the name resolvers would use.

Thanks a lot again, I realise this must be beneath you all,
Aíre.
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Re: [NTG-context] LuaTeX-plain OpenType Features Select

2014-05-13 Thread Aíre Funvake
On Mon May 12 23:12:06 2014, Aíre Funvake wrote:
 On 2014-05-12, 22:59 , Aíre Funvake wrote:
 On Mon May 12 22:52:43 2014, Hans Hagen wrote:
 On 5/12/2014 10:46 PM, Aíre Funvake wrote:
 On Mon May 12 22:01:04 2014, Hans Hagen wrote:
 On 5/12/2014 9:48 PM, Aíre Funvake wrote:
 Hi all,

 Trying to select slashed zero and lining figures from a
 font. For Lucida Bright OT, as another example, +scmp works,
 but not for Charter ITC Pro. But the font that concerns me
 the most right now, is TheSansMono Condensed...

 Font URL:
 http://www.lucasfonts.com/fonts/thesansmono/thesansmono-condensed/features/



 PDF Info:
 https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/6613992/TheSansMonoCd-info.pdf

 8---minimal example8
 \newdimen\fntcodesz
 \fntcodesz = 11.5pt
 \font\kwr = name:thesansmonocdw5regular:+lnum;+zero at \fntcodesz
 \kwr
 0123456789
 \bye
 8--8

 sometimes you need to select a script/language combination too or when
 digits are concerned disable oldstyle

 I'm too inexperienced to know what that means, or how to apply that.

 there is some info in font manuals and the context wiki

 I've opened the font in FontForge, and can see the glyphs I'm
 looking for, but again, it does not carry much applicable meaning
 for me. For example, can I use this information?:

 Slash 0, Lining Figures: (0x10120) U+0030 zero.lf.slashed DIGIT ZERO
1, Lining Figures: (0x10121) U+0031 one.lf DIGIT ONE
...
 Slash 0, Basic: (0x1012b) U+0030 zero.basic.slashed DIGIT ZERO
1, Basic: (0x1012c) U+0031 one.basic DIGIT ONE
...

 so you need to select the lnum feature too

 Was this not it?:
 ...
 \font\kwr = name:thesansmonocdw5regular:+lnum;+zero at \fntcodesz
 ...
 But thanks; will keep on reading; if solution found, will add it here.
 Regards,
 Aíre

 Solution:
 \font\tt = name:thesansmonocdw5regular:script=latn;+lnum;+zero} at 12pt
 Thank you!


Spoke too soon. The zero.slashed is selected, instead of 
zero.lf.slashed,
so that the zero is smaller than the rest of the lining figure numbers. 
In
desperation, tried luatex with 'luaotfload.sty' under TeXLive2013, and 
it
worked fine. `;color=XX` also works with `luaotfload`, but not with
LuaTeX-plain from ConTeXt.

Any ideas would be welcome. Exhausted Google query permutations and most
font info if for LaTeX, pdfTeX, pdfLaTeX, LuaLaTeX or ConTeXt.

Can I maybe as a hack switch the glyphs, or something?

Thanks again  regards,
Aíre.

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Re: [NTG-context] LuaTeX-plain OpenType Features Select

2014-05-13 Thread Aíre Funvake
On Tue May 13 20:57:55 2014, Hans Hagen wrote:
 On 5/13/2014 8:16 PM, Aíre Funvake wrote:
 On Tue May 13 19:56:34 2014, Hans Hagen wrote:
 On 5/13/2014 7:48 PM, Aíre Funvake wrote:
 On Mon May 12 23:12:06 2014, Aíre Funvake wrote:
 On 2014-05-12, 22:59 , Aíre Funvake wrote:
 On Mon May 12 22:52:43 2014, Hans Hagen wrote:
 On 5/12/2014 10:46 PM, Aíre Funvake wrote:
 On Mon May 12 22:01:04 2014, Hans Hagen wrote:
 On 5/12/2014 9:48 PM, Aíre Funvake wrote:
 Hi all,

 Trying to select slashed zero and lining figures from a
 font. For Lucida Bright OT, as another example, +scmp works,
 but not for Charter ITC Pro. But the font that concerns me
 the most right now, is TheSansMono Condensed...

 Font URL:
 http://www.lucasfonts.com/fonts/thesansmono/thesansmono-condensed/features/





 PDF Info:
 https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/6613992/TheSansMonoCd-info.pdf


 8---minimal
 example8
 \newdimen\fntcodesz
 \fntcodesz = 11.5pt
 \font\kwr = name:thesansmonocdw5regular:+lnum;+zero at
 \fntcodesz
 \kwr
 0123456789
 \bye
 8--8


 sometimes you need to select a script/language combination too
 or when
 digits are concerned disable oldstyle

 I'm too inexperienced to know what that means, or how to apply
 that.

 there is some info in font manuals and the context wiki

 I've opened the font in FontForge, and can see the glyphs I'm
 looking for, but again, it does not carry much applicable meaning
 for me. For example, can I use this information?:

 Slash 0, Lining Figures: (0x10120) U+0030 zero.lf.slashed DIGIT
 ZERO
  1, Lining Figures: (0x10121) U+0031 one.lf DIGIT ONE
  ...
 Slash 0, Basic: (0x1012b) U+0030 zero.basic.slashed DIGIT ZERO
  1, Basic: (0x1012c) U+0031 one.basic DIGIT ONE
  ...

 so you need to select the lnum feature too

 Was this not it?:
 ...
 \font\kwr = name:thesansmonocdw5regular:+lnum;+zero at \fntcodesz
 ...
 But thanks; will keep on reading; if solution found, will add it
 here.
 Regards,
 Aíre

 Solution:
 \font\tt = name:thesansmonocdw5regular:script=latn;+lnum;+zero} at
 12pt
 Thank you!


 Spoke too soon. The zero.slashed is selected, instead of
 zero.lf.slashed,
 so that the zero is smaller than the rest of the lining figure
 numbers.
 In
 desperation, tried luatex with 'luaotfload.sty' under TeXLive2013, and
 it
 worked fine. `;color=XX` also works with `luaotfload`, but not
 with
 LuaTeX-plain from ConTeXt.

 no, and that is unlikely to show up in context as it makes no sense to
 specify colors that way .. just use the normal color commands

 Any ideas would be welcome. Exhausted Google query permutations and
 most
 font info if for LaTeX, pdfTeX, pdfLaTeX, LuaLaTeX or ConTeXt.

 Can I maybe as a hack switch the glyphs, or something?

 how about adding

mode=node

 in the plain setup (often not needed in context)

 Hans

 Thanks for the reply. Tried `mode=node`. Read about it, but never
 thought
 of putting it here!? The correct specification then is:

 \font\mono = {TheSansMonoCd-W5Regular:%
   script=latn;+lnum;+zero;mode=node} at \fntsze

 Confused about the color though. Read most of luatexref-t.pdf, and may
 have missed it. The only reference (and it works in `luaotfload` under
 TeXLive2013) is like this:

 \font\mono = {TheSansMonoCd-W5Regular:%
   script=latn;+lnum;+zero;mode=node;color=336699} at \fntsze
 

 so it looks like oftload adds that (or maybe the latex font definition
 code) but even then, it's probably implemented someplace else in the
 latex code

 Found no other reference to setting color on fonts in LuaTeX-plain (the
 ConTeXt version). Would love a pointer to the information though.

 it must be something latex i think (maybe to provide xetex
 compatibility) but it's definitely not in luatex (nor will be) and
 also not in context (which has more advanced color support than hex
 specs anyway)

 if you want color, use context instead of plain

It's OK, can live without the color for now.


 Big thanks for the `mode=node`; took me 6hrs to try and fix to no avail.

 best try out these things with context (and if needed turn on tracing)

Probably misplaced intentions, but I want to want to understand TeX
properly first (TeXbook, etc.), before moving on to the higher level
of ConTeXt. But in the meantime, it would still be nice if good
looking documents could be produced, even if it requires much manual
tweaking. Started as an assembler programmer, then Forth, then C,
etc. Learn best from the bottom up:)

Have a good evening, and thank you for your time and attention.

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Re: [NTG-context] LuaTeX-plain OpenType Features Select

2014-05-12 Thread Aíre Funvake
On Mon May 12 22:01:04 2014, Hans Hagen wrote:
 On 5/12/2014 9:48 PM, Aíre Funvake wrote:
 Hi all,

 Trying to select slashed zero and lining figures from a
 font. For Lucida Bright OT, as another example, +scmp works,
 but not for Charter ITC Pro. But the font that concerns me
 the most right now, is TheSansMono Condensed...

 Font URL:
 http://www.lucasfonts.com/fonts/thesansmono/thesansmono-condensed/features/


 PDF Info:
 https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/6613992/TheSansMonoCd-info.pdf

 8---minimal example8
 \newdimen\fntcodesz
 \fntcodesz = 11.5pt
 \font\kwr = name:thesansmonocdw5regular:+lnum;+zero at \fntcodesz
 \kwr
 0123456789
 \bye
 8--8

 sometimes you need to select a script/language combination too or when
 digits are concerned disable oldstyle

I'm too inexperienced to know what that means, or how to apply that.

I've opened the font in FontForge, and can see the glyphs I'm
looking for, but again, it does not carry much applicable meaning
for me. For example, can I use this information?:

Slash 0, Lining Figures: (0x10120) U+0030 zero.lf.slashed DIGIT ZERO
  1, Lining Figures: (0x10121) U+0031 one.lf DIGIT ONE
  ...
Slash 0, Basic: (0x1012b) U+0030 zero.basic.slashed DIGIT ZERO
  1, Basic: (0x1012c) U+0031 one.basic DIGIT ONE
  ...

Also, under Font Info - Lookups, I see something which may help:

...
lookup zeroSlashedZeroinLatinlookup25 {
  lookupflag 0;
sub \zero by \zero.slashed ;
sub \zero.oldstyle by \zero.oldstyle.slashed ;
sub \zero.alt1 by \zero.alt1.slashed ;
sub \zero.lf by \zero.lf.slashed ;
sub \zero.basic by \zero.basic.slashed ;
} zeroSlashedZeroinLatinlookup25;
...

The whole feature set:
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/6613992/TheSansMonoCd-W5Regular.fea

Thanks for your time,
Aíre.

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Re: [NTG-context] LuaTeX-plain OpenType Features Select

2014-05-12 Thread Aíre Funvake
On Mon May 12 22:52:43 2014, Hans Hagen wrote:
 On 5/12/2014 10:46 PM, Aíre Funvake wrote:
 On Mon May 12 22:01:04 2014, Hans Hagen wrote:
 On 5/12/2014 9:48 PM, Aíre Funvake wrote:
 Hi all,

 Trying to select slashed zero and lining figures from a
 font. For Lucida Bright OT, as another example, +scmp works,
 but not for Charter ITC Pro. But the font that concerns me
 the most right now, is TheSansMono Condensed...

 Font URL:
 http://www.lucasfonts.com/fonts/thesansmono/thesansmono-condensed/features/



 PDF Info:
 https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/6613992/TheSansMonoCd-info.pdf

 8---minimal example8
 \newdimen\fntcodesz
 \fntcodesz = 11.5pt
 \font\kwr = name:thesansmonocdw5regular:+lnum;+zero at \fntcodesz
 \kwr
 0123456789
 \bye
 8--8

 sometimes you need to select a script/language combination too or when
 digits are concerned disable oldstyle

 I'm too inexperienced to know what that means, or how to apply that.

 there is some info in font manuals and the context wiki

 I've opened the font in FontForge, and can see the glyphs I'm
 looking for, but again, it does not carry much applicable meaning
 for me. For example, can I use this information?:

 Slash 0, Lining Figures: (0x10120) U+0030 zero.lf.slashed DIGIT ZERO
1, Lining Figures: (0x10121) U+0031 one.lf DIGIT ONE
...
 Slash 0, Basic: (0x1012b) U+0030 zero.basic.slashed DIGIT ZERO
1, Basic: (0x1012c) U+0031 one.basic DIGIT ONE
...

 so you need to select the lnum feature too

Was this not it?:
...
\font\kwr = name:thesansmonocdw5regular:+lnum;+zero at \fntcodesz
...
But thanks; will keep on reading; if solution found, will add it here.
Regards,
Aíre
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Re: [NTG-context] LuaTeX-plain OpenType Features Select

2014-05-12 Thread Aíre Funvake
On 2014-05-12, 22:59 , Aíre Funvake wrote:
 On Mon May 12 22:52:43 2014, Hans Hagen wrote:
 On 5/12/2014 10:46 PM, Aíre Funvake wrote:
 On Mon May 12 22:01:04 2014, Hans Hagen wrote:
 On 5/12/2014 9:48 PM, Aíre Funvake wrote:
 Hi all,

 Trying to select slashed zero and lining figures from a
 font. For Lucida Bright OT, as another example, +scmp works,
 but not for Charter ITC Pro. But the font that concerns me
 the most right now, is TheSansMono Condensed...

 Font URL:
 http://www.lucasfonts.com/fonts/thesansmono/thesansmono-condensed/features/



 PDF Info:
 https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/6613992/TheSansMonoCd-info.pdf

 8---minimal example8
 \newdimen\fntcodesz
 \fntcodesz = 11.5pt
 \font\kwr = name:thesansmonocdw5regular:+lnum;+zero at \fntcodesz
 \kwr
 0123456789
 \bye
 8--8

 sometimes you need to select a script/language combination too or when
 digits are concerned disable oldstyle

 I'm too inexperienced to know what that means, or how to apply that.

 there is some info in font manuals and the context wiki

 I've opened the font in FontForge, and can see the glyphs I'm
 looking for, but again, it does not carry much applicable meaning
 for me. For example, can I use this information?:

 Slash 0, Lining Figures: (0x10120) U+0030 zero.lf.slashed DIGIT ZERO
1, Lining Figures: (0x10121) U+0031 one.lf DIGIT ONE
...
 Slash 0, Basic: (0x1012b) U+0030 zero.basic.slashed DIGIT ZERO
1, Basic: (0x1012c) U+0031 one.basic DIGIT ONE
...

 so you need to select the lnum feature too

 Was this not it?:
 ...
 \font\kwr = name:thesansmonocdw5regular:+lnum;+zero at \fntcodesz
 ...
 But thanks; will keep on reading; if solution found, will add it here.
 Regards,
 Aíre
 
Solution:
\font\tt = name:thesansmonocdw5regular:script=latn;+lnum;+zero} at 12pt
Thank you!

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[NTG-context] LuaTeX-Plain and Inline Math

2014-05-07 Thread Aíre Funvake
Hi,

Sorry to be a pain:

%%tst01.tex
Inline $\sqrt{1.2}$ math. % same for $\root n of x$
\end
%%


$ luatex --fmt luatex-plain tst01.tex

  This is LuaTeX, Version beta-0.79.1 (TeX Live 2014/dev) (rev 4972)
  (format=luatex-plain 2014.5.7)  7 MAY 2014 11:48
   \write18 enabled.
  **tst01.tex
8
  (../tex/generic/context/luatex/luatex mplib.tex)
  ! Missing { inserted.
  to be read again
  $
  l.2 Inline $\sqrt{1.2}$
  math. %-- same for $\root n of x$


Works fine with `luatex` and `pdftex` from MacTeXbasic 2013 (+extras)
   LuaTeX, Version beta-0.76.0-2013061817 (TeX Live 2013) (rev 4627)
   pdfTeX 3.1415926-2.5-1.40.14 (TeX Live 2013)

Font issue with roots?

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Re: [NTG-context] LuaTeX-Plain and Inline Math

2014-05-07 Thread Aíre Funvake
On 2014-05-07, 21:32 , Hans Hagen wrote:
 On 5/7/2014 7:56 PM, Aíre Funvake wrote:
 Inline $\sqrt{1.2}$ math. % same for $\root n of x$
 \end
 replace this in luatex-math.tex:
 
 \def\sqrt {\Uroot 0 221A{}}
 \def\root#1\of{\Uroot 0 221A{#1}}
 
 
Worked like a charm, thank you.
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Re: [NTG-context] LuaTeX-Plain and OTF/TTF Fonts

2014-05-06 Thread Aíre Funvake

On Tue May  6 21:13:43 2014, Hans Hagen wrote:

On 5/6/2014 4:49 PM, Aire Funvake wrote:

Dear Group,

Thank you for your time. I'm starting out with TeX/ConTeXt, but
want to arrive via LuaTeX (`luatex-plain.tex/fmt`). Managed to
build, move and use `luatex-plain`. Have the same problem under
MacOSX  Win7 (here is the Win-specific decription -- `%CTX%` is
my ConTeXt root):


Setting `OSFONTDIR` before font update and/or before running
`luatex-plain`, have no observable effect.

So, I do have a manual fix/solution. But is there an easier way?


I assume you made a plain format with:

  mtxrun --script plain --make

Then, does this work:

  mtxrun --script plain luatex-test

okay?

Hans
8-


Hi Hans,

No, I made it with `luatex --ini luatex-plain.fmt` and copied
the resulting `.fmt` file. But, I executed the first command
just now, just to be sure, and then ran the next command:
`mtxrun --script plain luatex-test`. Result:

\write18 enabled.
...
tex/texmf-cache/luatex-cache/generic/fonts/data/luatex-fonts-names.luc)(load 
luc
: 
c:/ctx/tex/texmf-cache/luatex-cache/generic/fonts/otf/lmroman10-bold.luc)unkn

own font in database, run: mtxrun --script fonts --reload --simple
! LuaTeX error 
...ntext/tex/generic/context/luatex/luatex-fonts-merged.lua:6213:

attempt to index field 'known' (a nil value).
to be read again
\par
l.33

?Renter

After `R`, it did produced `luatex-test.pdf`. Not sure if it
looks the way it should ... couple of overfull boxes, narrow
third page.

Either way, I updated the fonts again as above, checked that
it recreated the `luatex-fonts-names.lua` file like before.
If I delete the old `luatex-fonts-names.luc`, the next run of
`luatex-plain hello.tex` produces the same result. Added the
paths to the fonts in `luatex-fonts-names.lua` (minion 
myriad), ran `luatex-plain hello.tex` again ... and all is fine.

Further experimentation: Copied the Source Sans Pro fonts to
a subdirectory alongside the `minion` and `myriad` directories,
(`%CTX%\tex\texmf-fonts\otf\sourcesans`), and again updated the
fonts database(s). Upon inspection of `luatex-fonts-names.lua`,
the Source Sans fonts and files are listed, but they *did* have
the path prefixed to the font file names, and consequently, I
could use them without modifying `luatex-fonts-names.lua`.

Thank you for your reply. I'm convinced this is no bug, just my
inexperience at play. This is not a crippling problem. I can
tackle The TeXbook now.

Regards,
Aíre Funvake.


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