Re: [NTG-context] Additional steps taken since the first e-mail
Mats Broberg wrote: I have also done the following since the first e-mail: - Copied the contents of texexec.rme to texexec.ini OK - Uncommented the set TeXShell to miktex line in the new texexec.ini file. - Added the string C:\texmf\miktex\context\perltk to the PATH (however, there is no context or perltk folder in the miktex folder. Shouldn't there be?) As far as I remember, apart from installing Perl (ActivePerl) and adding it to PATH, I only had to add MikTeX's bin directory to PATH. Have you also generated the formats? From texexec.rme: , | % If this file is called 'texexec.rme', copy it to 'texexec.ini', | % check the settings above, change them according to your TeX | % distribution, and say: | % | % texexec --verbose | % | % When set up properly, you should see your local settings fly by. | % When these settings are ok, the next call should work: | % | % texexec --make | % ^^^ | % and you should be able to process a file by saying | % | % texexec filename ` And then of course, be sure to run: , | mktexlsr ` Regarding the files not having line breaks, I made the same mistake when I started using ConTeXt. The files have Unix end of line characters, so Notepad and other Windows-only editors will just give you a long string of garbage, as you discovered. Hans has put a lot of work in making Scite work nicely with ConTeXt, so you might find that helpful. Other users have their favorites (Emacs, jEdit, etc.). Good luck, Matthew ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] Additional steps taken since the first e-mail
Also, what does mktexlsr refer to I don't know how it really works, so I can only explain this in layman's terms. If you look in your texmf directory, you should see a ls-R file. If you have a texmf-local tree, there should be one there too. These ls-R files make up a database that are used to locate various files in a TeX system. After you make changes, like updating and rebuilding formats, or copying texexec.rme to texexec.ini, you need to update the databases before TeX becomes aware of the changes. This is what mktexlsr does. On some systems, the command might be texhash. Matthew ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] Which version is best for MSWindows users.?
I am writing some e-books on free software. I am recommending TeX (of course) and Context instead of LaTeX. The vast majority of my readers will be using some flavor of MSWindows. Unfortunately there have been problems in synchronizing Context releases and Miktex releases, in re. hyphenation and fonts in general. I need to recommend a download package for readers who will be newcomers to the world of TeX. Which is the safest pointer? I see Miktex as a possibility but also the stripped versions of the TeX distribution maintained on the Context site. So how would you start an absolute newbie to e.g., Context and pdfetex? Where would you point them for their first download? I think both MikTeX and Hans' minimal tree are good. The MikTeX installer might feel a bit more familiar to a newbie, but if you give them instructions on how to install the minimal tree, it shouldn't be anymore challenging than MikTeX. Also, I think it's easier to stay in sync with Hans' development of ConTeXt using the minimal windows distribution and updating via the texsync script. Although, using texsync would also entail installing Ruby and Cygwin (to get the Rsync program). I think the only unexpected thing I had to do to get the minimal windows tree working was to make the files in texmf-mswin\bin executable (the permissions were not right). Matt ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] Navigation of pragma-ade.nl site.
I had problems recently navigating the pragma-ade site. I use Slackware Linux but I also have Win 2000. Unfortunately the browsers haven't kept up with pdf navigation of sites, except for Internet Explorer. The others I tested, Konqueror, Opera, Mozilla, Lynx etc. cannot navigate the site because they use external plugins for interpreting pdf code, and the environment for those interpreters is local to my computer and not to pragma-ade.nl. (Lynx of course doesn't have pdf facilities at all.) As far as I can see, everything on www.pragma-ade.com is html except, of course, for the manuals. I don't see what is difficult about using the site. If people can't load PDFs in their browsers, they can always download the files and load them offline in their PDF reader of choice. Loading PDFs in IE and Mozilla-based browsers should be trivial anyway. As far as the forward and back buttons not working, I'm running both Firefox and IE, and both seem fine. I'm sure Konqueror must be fine as well. Regards, Matt ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] ! Undefined control sequence.
K. David Prince wrote: =20 TeXVersion 0.1 / Taco Hoekwater 2004 texexec : TeXExec 5.2.4 - ConTeXt / PRAGMA ADE 1997-200= 5 texutil : TeXUtil 9.0.0 - ConTeXt / PRAGMA ADE 1992-200= 4 tex : pdfeTeX, 3.14159-1.10b-2.1 (Web2C 7.4.5) You also need new pdfetex binary (at least 1.20). (TeXLive 2004, teTeX 3)= =2E Vit Zyka In which case, you may be better off using the minimal Context tree for Linux from the Pragma site. (I think you said you were running Debian, so the packages are bound to be old.) Matt ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
[NTG-context] texsync
Hi, A question about the texsync script: running ruby -S texsync.rb --force --list gives me TeXSync | TeXSync | fetching list of trees from 'www.pragma-ade.com' rsync: failed to connect to www.pragma-ade.com: Connection refused (111) rsync error: error in socket IO (code 10) at /home/lapo/packaging/tmp/rsync-2.6.3/clientserver.c(94) TeXSync | available trees: TeXSync | TeXSync | I've read the texsync manual but I'm not sure what else I have to do with rsync to get a connection to Pragma-ade. I'm running rsync under Cygwin on WinXP. I'd be grateful for any pointers. regards, Matt ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] can I upgrade yet?
Is there some other way besides my traditional method of unzipping cont-tmf.zip file into /localtexmf ? I'm on MikTeX as well. I've kept my system up to date via the MikTeX Update Wizard. But just to see if unzipping cont-tmf.zip over my \texmf would break anything, I just tried it. No problem. That said, I updated my installation via the wizard only a few weeks ago ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] TeXFont Problem
mktexlsr: c:/Program is not a directory. Skipping... I can't comment on font installation, but I think you should be careful with the space in Program Files. It looks like mktexlsr is having trouble with it. For that reason, I usually keep my TeX tree under C:\tex or something like that. Best wishes, Matt -- Matthew Huggett Hiratsuka, Kanagawa Japan ___ ntg-context mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] Pragma-ade site down?
Both www.pragma-ade.com and www.pragma-ade.nl work here. John Culleton wrote: I can no longer access the www.pragma-ade.nl site. What has happened? I recommended it to others and they were blocked also. ___ ntg-context mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] ConTeXt and the blind
You'd have to do it a file at a time, but does the Acrobat Reader's save as text function do what you need? A much bigger solution would be to have your source as xml and then go from there to ConTeXt and pdf or straight to plain text via XSLT. Matt Alan Bowen wrote: I have very recently launched a new journal which has been designed on the assumption that it will exist in both electronic form and in printhence, it is produced using ConTeXt and exists natively in PDF files. This morning I was asked by a colleague who is totally blind whether it would be possible to for him have ASCII or .txt files that he could use easily with his screen reading software. (My sense is that he may be able to use PDF files with this software, but that it is not easy.) So, does anyone on the list have ideas about how to produce such files from the files I currently have in hand or any experience with this sort of problem? Is there, for instance, a way to strip away all the formatting commands from a ConTeXt source file automatically so as to leave an unencoded .txt file that I could send him? I gather that he can use .htm files, but so far as I can tell there is no path from a ConTeXt source file to an HTML fileat least, a specific query about this made recently on this list by someone else seems to have gone unanswered. Cheers, Alan ___ ntg-context mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context ___ ntg-context mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] ConTeXt and emacs
Thomas A.Schmitz wrote: Dear co-listers, I'm (very slowly) trying to use emacs with ConTeXt. I have tried Berend de Boers context.el which offers a good many nice features, but I couldn't find for the life of me how to do a couple of things (such as run texexec on the file I'm editing). In Emacs, to process a file with texexec you can select TeX file from the TeX menu or you can hit C-c C-f. (providing context.el is loaded) If you need to run texexec with any switches, I guess you could start up eshell (M-x eshell) and do it manually from there. Matt ___ ntg-context mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] scite
Hans Hagen wrote: At 18:00 30/09/2003 +0900, you wrote: Setting an environment variable SciTE_HOME to the path of all my SciTE properties files helped. I also changed the import latex statment in my SciTEGlobal.properties to import tex so that Hans' new tex.properties is loaded instead. I'm almost happy I have some work to do tonight so I can try it out. :-) strange, i though that i'd put a SciTEGlobal.properties in wscite.zip; will look into it You probably did. I'm running the distribution from scintilla.org . ___ ntg-context mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] scite
Jules Colding wrote: On Mon, 2003-09-29 at 14:49, Hans Hagen wrote: Hi, If you are in search for an editor: http://www.pragma-ade.com/scite/wscite.zip http://www.pragma-ade.com/scite/cscite.zip Has anyone looked into an emacs mode? Both Patrick Gundlach and Berend de Boer have some emacs stuff for ConTeXt. Patrick has a ConTeXt command look up mode called etexshow http://levana.de/emacs/ and Berend has a mode for syntax highlighting etc. http://www.berenddeboer.net/emacs/context.el ___ ntg-context mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] scite
Willi Egger wrote: Hans Hagen wrote: At 18:00 30/09/2003 +0900, you wrote: Setting an environment variable SciTE_HOME to the path of all my SciTE properties files helped. I also changed the import latex statment in my SciTEGlobal.properties to import tex so that Hans' new tex.properties is loaded instead. I'm almost happy I have some work to do tonight so I can try it out. :-) strange, i though that i'd put a SciTEGlobal.properties in wscite.zip; will look into it You probably did. I'm running the distribution from scintilla.org . Hans Hagen wrote: ah .. fetch the one from our site (based on the latest 1.55) Hm, does not work for me. Okay I donwloaded first the version from Scintilla site. Later I replaced this version with the version from the pragma-site. Still the problems mentioned remain. I just wiped out my installation from Scintilla and started again with the Pragma one. I had to get the dll that Willi linked to earlier, but now everything works as expected. Matt ___ ntg-context mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] scite
Further I am not sure how to get ConTeXt support in SciTE. I have opend the SciTEUser.properties file which resides in \Documents and Settings. There I added the files mentioned in the manual import cont-de-scite import cont-en-scite import cont-nl-scite import cont-xx-scite import metafun-scite import context Starting the editor is no problem. Opening a texfile gives acceptable coloring but I doubt the font which should be LMR (which I installed yesterday) - You mentioned that the system must be aware of this? How do you do that in Windows? Futher when compiling a texfile then latex is started ? So I conclude, that there is currently no loading of the SciTEUser properties file. - Whould this file be put into the directory where scite.exe resides? Sorry for the many questions. Willi I have the same trouble as Willi. My SciTEUser.properties is definitely not being loaded. If I put the import statements in my SciTEGlobal.properties, I get the ConTeXt menu items plus replacement of commands while I type. However, there is no colouring and compile calls LaTeX. Two questions: 1) Can we use the ConTeXt stuff with the SciTE distribution from the main SciTE website, or must we use the one from Pragma? 2) The standard SciTE distribution's SciTEGlobal.properties imports the main latex.properties. Should we delete this? Thanks for the SciTE extensions Hans. I look forward to using them. Matt ___ ntg-context mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] Re: Support bei Einstieg in ConText
Patrick Gundlach wrote: Steffen Wolfrum [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi, Gibt es etwa Bücher zum Thema ConTeXt? come on, guys. Posting in a wrong language can happen. So what. Answering (an obviously private mail posted in the ML) here in the same language on this mailinglist is not the best thing, but this can happen, too. But we should not keep up this german thread. It is not polite for the other non-german speaking people out there, that get completely bored. I never understand half of what gets written on this list anyway ;-) It's all German to me. ___ ntg-context mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
[NTG-context] FONT-CHI.TEX
Hi again: Line 660 of FONT-CHI.TEX has a \starttabulate while ln 812 has \starttabel . Is this a mistake? They should both be Dutch, shouldn't they? Matt ___ ntg-context mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] Re: beginner question re: counters
Patrick Gundlach wrote:
Hi,
Matthew Huggett [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I apologize for asking such a basic question. What is the correct way
to increment a counter such that each time a macro is used, the counter
is augmented by 1.
Pawel Jackowski na Onet [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Hmmm... It can happens for many reasons.
Try for instance
...
General remark (not really concerning this thread):
It would be nice if the original posters would comment answers like
this one if this works fine or not. Since these mails are archived,
other people might come across this post and wonder if this is a good
solution or not.
Just my $50^{-1}$ Euro
Patrick
Yeah, the solution worked. Just to recap:
What I wanted was a macro and counter such that each time the macro gets
used the counter gets augmented + 1.
The solution was:
\newcount\MyCounter
\define[1]\MyMacro{
\global\advance\MyCounter by 1 \relax
\number\MyCounter #1}
\starttext
\MyMacro{Hello}
\MyMacro{Goodbye}
\MyMacro{Hello again}
\stoptext
-- 1Hello 2Goodbye 3Hello again
Matt
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[NTG-context] parsetrees
//Ed Cashin wrote: I'm making some notes on English grammar for some students and I want to analyze a few sentences using parse trees. Is there a way to do trees in ConTeXt? I guess I'd need to use Metapost. Any pointers would be appreciated. Please let us know if you find anything. I was in a linguistics class and would have tackled this myself if there had been more time. I don't think it would be too bad in MetaPost. I haven't quite gotten the hang of ConTeXt's MetaPost integration to the degree where I'd know how to make use of both their features in a practical way. I found the following manual but haven't had a chance to try anything out. www.cis.upenn.edu/~dchiang/software/trees-manual.pdf Matt ___ ntg-context mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] finding external figures
Pawel Jackowski na Onet wrote:
Is there any way to use absolute path for external figure in ConTeXt code?
Is the following example from the manual of any help?
\setupexternalfigures[directory={c:/fig/eps,c:/fig/pdf}]
Note that the path needs / not \
Matthew
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Re: [NTG-context] \dosetupsystem ????!
Hans Hagen wrote:
sounds like you set the directory string to some \setupsystem command,
are you sure that your file is ok?
I get the error even on a simple file like:
\setupoutput[pdftex]
\starttext
This is a test.
\stoptext
If I insert a } when tex reports the error, it runs to the end and
produces a good pdf. However,
it does say Don't change language in unprotected mode! My log file
is attached.
Any ideas?
Thanks,
Matt
This is pdfeTeX, Version 3.14159-1.00b-pretest-20020211-2.1 (Web2c 7.3.7x)
(format=cont-en 2003.8.27) 27 AUG 2003 13:27
entering extended mode
**cont-en test.tex
(./test.tex{c:/tex/texmf-var/pdftex/config/pdftex.cfg}
ConTeXt ver: 2003.8.21 fmt: 2003.8.27 int: english mes: english
language : language en is active
protectionstate 0
system : cont-new loaded
(c:/tex/texmf/tex/context/base/cont-new.tex
systems: beware: some patches loaded from cont-new.tex!
)
system : cont-old loaded
(c:/tex/texmf/tex/context/base/cont-old.tex
loading: Context Old Macros
)
system : cont-fil loaded
(c:/tex/texmf/tex/context/base/cont-fil.tex
loading: Context File Synonyms
)
system : cont-sys loaded
(c:/tex/texmf/tex/context/user/cont-sys.tex)
bodyfont : 12pt rm is loaded
language : patterns 2:2-en-2 loaded
specials : tex,postscript,rokicki loaded
\openout2 = `test.tui'.
system : test.top loaded
(./test.top)
Runaway argument?
\c!gebied ={\setupsystem [inputfile=test.tex] \protect
! File ended while scanning use of \dosetupsystem.
inserted text
\par
to be read again
\relax
\dodoreadfile ...normalinput \readfilename \relax
\the \everyafterreadfile
everyjob ...file \openutilities \loadoptionfile
\checknotes \initializeMPg...
l.1
\setupoutput[pdftex]
? i
insert}
\openout0 = `test-mpgraph.mp'.
\openout0 = `test-mprun.mp'.
\openout0 = `mpgraph.mp'.
\openout0 = `mprun.mp'.
specials : loading definition file tpd
(c:/tex/texmf/tex/context/base/spec-tpd.tex
specials : loading definition file fdf
(c:/tex/texmf/tex/context/base/spec-fdf.tex unprotect 3 unprotect 4
system (E-TEX) : [line 1907] \ifcsname
protect 4 protect 3)
specials : fdf loaded
unprotect 3 protect 3)
specials : fdf,tpd loaded
systems: don't change language in unprotected mode!
pdftex : using map file: original-context-symbol.map
pdftex : using map file: pl0-ams-cmr.map
pdftex : using map file: original-vogel-symbol.map
systems: begin file test at line 2
[1.1{c:/tex/texmf-var/dvips/config/pdftex.map
Warning: pdfetex.exe (file c:/tex/texmf-var/dvips/config/pdftex.map): entry for
`cmssbxo10' already exists, duplicates ignored
}{c:/tex/texmf/pdftex/config/context/original-context-symbol.map
Warning: pdfetex.exe (file c:/tex/texmf/pdftex/config/context/original-context-
symbol.map): entry for `contnav' already exists, duplicates ignored
}{c:/tex/texmf/pdftex/config/context/pl0-ams-cmr.map}{c:/tex/texmf/pdftex/confi
g/context/original-vogel-symbol.map
Warning: pdfetex.exe (file c:/tex/texmf/pdftex/config/context/original-vogel-sy
mbol.map): entry for `fmvr8x' already exists, duplicates ignored
}]
systems: end file test at line 6
)
Here is how much of TeX's memory you used:
777 strings out of 33069
11779 string characters out of 745237
4414755 words of memory out of 5520935
31128 multiletter control sequences out of 1+5
10284 words of font info for 34 fonts, out of 50 for 1000
14 hyphenation exceptions out of 1000
45i,16n,49p,166b,246s stack positions out of 5000i,500n,5000p,20b,4s
7 PDF objects out of 30
0 named destinations out of 131072
0 words of extra memory for PDF output out of 65536
c:/tex/texmf/fonts/type1/bluesky/cm/cmr12.pfb
Output written on test.pdf (1 page, 4750 bytes).
[NTG-context] \dosetupsystem ????!
Hi:
Can anybody tell me what might cause this error:
Runaway argument?
\c!gebied ={\setupsystem [inputfile=rice.tex] \protect
! File ended while scanning use of \dosetupsystem.
inserted text
\par
to be read again
\relax
\dodoreadfile ...normalinput \readfilename \relax
\the
\everyafterreadfile
everyjob ...file \openutilities \loadoptionfile
\checknotes
\initializeMPg...
Everything was running smooth a few days ago. Now every document I
process causes the same error. What actions does \dosetupsystem carry out?
Thanks,
Matt
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[NTG-context] building formats under MikTeX
Hello All: When I run texexec --make to (re)build my formats (under MikTeX), texexec reports that it can't read TEX.POOL and MP.POOL . Then a window's dialog box reports that pdfetex has crapped out. Any any ideas? Thanks and best wishes, Matt ___ ntg-context mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
[NTG-context] texfont and type-tmf.dat
Hi: When I run texfont as follows: texfont --en=texnansi --fontroot=/usr/share/texmf/fonts /usr/share/context/data/type-tmf.dat texfont reports unknown subpath ../fonts/afm/urw/[font name] for each font listed in type-tmf.dat. Where should the fonts be found? Thanks, Matt ___ ntg-context mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] Newbie screwed up his installation
Can you provide an example file? If you haven't made any changes to your installation, you can't have messed anything up, so you must be missing something in your input. Matt ___ ntg-context mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] Improving the Documentation of Context
Matthias Vogel wrote: I think it would be nice to have the manuals improved in the following not very costly way (??? indicates my ignorance): \setuplayout[..,..=..,..] width dimension fit middle .width, ??? and orientation of main text heightdimension fit middle .height of main text backspace dimension topspace dimension margindimension nxnumber. ??? nynumber. ??? dxdimension.. ??? dydimension.. ??? lines number. number of lines on the page [I don't know the relation to height] grid yes no. invoking setting to grit Since the manual doesn't even mention all those options, even a very short hint is much better than just trying around to get an idea what's the idea of an option. I usually find the etexshow mode for Emacs helpful. It gives you easy access to the details of ConTeXt commands. ___ ntg-context mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] Writing Japanese using ConTeXt
Matt Gushee wrote: What would a good sample consist of? I can probably find something. Well, for starters I guess samples showing the interaction of the four writing scripts (I'm thinking of glyph spacing and line-breaking here; e.g., in the transition from native script to Romaji and back again). Do you know much about different heading styles? I suppose they are similar to the Chinese ones depending on how traditional the text is; i.e., kanji or Arabic numerals, the presence of a section kanji before the numbering, etc. Examples of Furigana would be good. Matt Huggett ___ ntg-context mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] Writing Japanese using ConTeXt
Tim 't Hart wrote: Recently, I've made the 'unwise' decision to start studying Japanese next year, and of course I want to keep on using ConTeXt to write my school papers. [] So I decided to find a way to write Japanese in ConTeXt. First I tried using the eOmega/ConTeXt combination since I have some great OTPs for it, but soon found out that Omega is still the TeX of the future, in other words, not the TeX of today and extremely unstable. Then I decided to try ConTeXt's UTF-8 support. I created the following test I asked about Japanese a while back. Hans requested more information on encodings, fonts, etc. I don't know enough about these things or ConTeXt to know what is needed exactly. From what I've read, unicode is not that popular in Japan itself. The most common encodings here are a) iso-2022-jp (7bit) b) japanese-iso-8bit (a.k.a euc-japan-1990, euc-japan, euc-jp) c) japanese-shift-jis (shift jis 8bit; common under MS Windows) Describe Language Environment under MULE in Gnu Emacs gives some info. Ken Lunde of Adobe has a book or two on processing Japanese. Typesetting Japanese could be more complicated than Chinese because of the concurrent use of four writing systems: a) Kanji (Chinese Characters) b) Hiragana (Syllabic script for representing grammatical endings and words for which Kanji are not commonly used.) c) Katakana (Syllabic script for representing foreign words, some scientfic words (flora, fauna), and for emphasis) d) Romaji -- lit. Roman Characters (Sometimes foreign languages, especially English, are represented in latin script) It is more common than you might imagine. I guess I need to track down a few sample documents. I tried to turn up some info on Japanese typesetting rules but had no luck. best wishes, Matt ___ ntg-context mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
