Re: [NTG-context] Arabic/Hindi numerals in layout structures (headers, page numbers, etc.)

2015-08-03 Thread Idris Samawi Hamid ادريس سماوي حامد
On Sun, 02 Aug 2015 20:24:50 -0600, tala...@fastmail.fm  
tala...@fastmail.fm wrote:


But, in any case, the solution of Wolfgang solves my immediate problem.  
It would, of course, be nice not to have had to type out many lines of  
numbers (the Arabic edition has more than 250 sections, i.e. entries),  
and to have this automated when declaring the main language to be  
Arabic, for example.


Ultimately this workaround is overkill. conversion=arabicnumerals needs to  
be fixed. It's a matter of glyph mapping exactly ten digits, should be  
trivial...


Wassalaam
Idris
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Re: [NTG-context] Arabic/Hindi numerals in layout structures (headers, page numbers, etc.)

2015-08-02 Thread tala...@fastmail.fm
Never mind. After more word combinations when searching the archives, I came 
across Wolfgang’s answer here: gmane.comp.tex.context/85673 
http://article.gmane.org/gmane.comp.tex.context/85673, in which he says to 
use the \defineconversion command. E.g.:

\defineconversion
  [myconversion]
  [۱,۲,۳,۴,۵,۶,۷,۸,۹,۱۰,
   ۱۱,۱۲,۱۳,۱۴,۱۵,۱۶,۱۷,۱۸,۱۹,۲۰,
   ۲۱,۲۲,۲۳,۲۴,۲۵,۲۶,۲۷,۲۸,۲۹,۳۰]

\setuppagenumber[numberconversion=myconversion]

Of course, one can add the same to setups for the other matters as well:

\setuphead[chapter,title,section,subject][conversion=myconversion]
\setuplinenumbering[conversion=myconversion]
\setupnotations[footnote][numberconversion=myconversion]
\setupnotations[linenote][numberconversion=myconversion]
etc.

This actually provides lots of flexibility, as you can fine-tune various 
footnote streams by assigning different scripts, etc.

Talal


 On 3 Aug 2015, at 00:32, tala...@fastmail.fm wrote:
 
 Dear all,
 
 When typesetting in Arabic (or, for that matter, other non-Latin scripts), 
 how does one get numerals to appear ‘natively’ in layout structures such as 
 headers, page numbers, line-numbering, and footnote numbers? In the case of 
 Arabic, this means using the so-called “mashriqi”, or 
 “Arabic-Indic”/“Arabic-Hindi” numerals. Is there some option when defining 
 the font family? (I would have thought that using “\mainlanguage[arabic]” 
 would have done it.) Of course, I am using a font that contains the numbers 
 of that script.
 
 Mind you, if I manually type such numbers into the body of my text, they 
 appear correctly. MWE below.
 
 Best wishes,
 Talal
 
 =
 \setuppapersize[A6]
 \mainlanguage[arabic]
 \definefontfamily[mainface][serif][ALMFixed][features=arabic,range=arabic,]
 \setupbodyfont [mainface,10pt]
 
 \starttext \showframe
 \righttoleft
 
 %\setupdirections[bidi=global,method=two]
 
 \section{section one}
 \startlinenumbering
 \input ward 
 \stoplinenumbering
 \footnote{I would like the footnote number — like the page number, section 
 number, and linenumbers — to be in the so-called Arabic-Indic script.}
 
 \section{section two}
 مرحباً بالعالم. ١٢٣٤٥٦٧٨٩٠ مرحباً بالعالم.
 \stoptext
 =

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[NTG-context] Arabic/Hindi numerals in layout structures (headers, page numbers, etc.)

2015-08-02 Thread tala...@fastmail.fm
Dear all,

When typesetting in Arabic (or, for that matter, other non-Latin scripts), how 
does one get numerals to appear ‘natively’ in layout structures such as 
headers, page numbers, line-numbering, and footnote numbers? In the case of 
Arabic, this means using the so-called “mashriqi”, or 
“Arabic-Indic”/“Arabic-Hindi” numerals. Is there some option when defining the 
font family? (I would have thought that using “\mainlanguage[arabic]” would 
have done it.) Of course, I am using a font that contains the numbers of that 
script.

Mind you, if I manually type such numbers into the body of my text, they appear 
correctly. MWE below.

Best wishes,
Talal

=
\setuppapersize[A6]
\mainlanguage[arabic]
\definefontfamily[mainface][serif][ALMFixed][features=arabic,range=arabic,]
\setupbodyfont [mainface,10pt]

\starttext \showframe
\righttoleft

%\setupdirections[bidi=global,method=two]

\section{section one}
\startlinenumbering
\input ward 
\stoplinenumbering
\footnote{I would like the footnote number — like the page number, section 
number, and linenumbers — to be in the so-called Arabic-Indic script.}

\section{section two}
مرحباً بالعالم. ١٢٣٤٥٦٧٨٩٠ مرحباً بالعالم.
\stoptext
=
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Re: [NTG-context] Arabic/Hindi numerals in layout structures (headers, page numbers, etc.)

2015-08-02 Thread Idris Samawi Hamid ادريس سماوي حامد

Salaam, Talal,
See below:

On Sun, 02 Aug 2015 17:32:44 -0600, tala...@fastmail.fm  
tala...@fastmail.fm wrote:



Dear all,

When typesetting in Arabic (or, for that matter, other non-Latin  
scripts), how does one get numerals to appear ‘natively’ in layout  
structures such as headers, page numbers, line-numbering, and footnote  
numbers? In the case of Arabic, this means using the so-called  
“mashriqi”, or “Arabic-Indic”/“Arabic-Hindi” numerals. Is there some  
option when defining the font family? (I would have thought that using  
“\mainlanguage[arabic]” would have done it.) Of course, I am using a  
font that contains the numbers of that script.


I'm on the move, but try these keys in the appropriate structure commands:

numberconversion=arabicnumerals
numberconversion=abjadnumerals

Failing that, a workaround is to use the m-translate module, and define a  
translation for each the ten digits. But numberconversion=arabicnumerals  
is supposed to work.


Wassalaam
Idris

PS \start-stopsection is now standard (\section is still there, but...)



Mind you, if I manually type such numbers into the body of my text, they  
appear correctly. MWE below.


Best wishes,
Talal

=
\setuppapersize[A6]
\mainlanguage[arabic]
\definefontfamily[mainface][serif][ALMFixed][features=arabic,range=arabic,]
\setupbodyfont [mainface,10pt]

\starttext \showframe
\righttoleft

%\setupdirections[bidi=global,method=two]

\section{section one}
\startlinenumbering
\input ward
\stoplinenumbering
\footnote{I would like the footnote number — like the page number,  
section number, and linenumbers — to be in the so-called Arabic-Indic  
script.}


\section{section two}
مرحباً بالعالم. ١٢٣٤٥٦٧٨٩٠ مرحباً بالعالم.
\stoptext
=
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Re: [NTG-context] Arabic/Hindi numerals in layout structures (headers, page numbers, etc.)

2015-08-02 Thread tala...@fastmail.fm
Thank you for that, Idris. I had tried those earlier, but both of them gave me 
not digits but the Arabic equivalents of roman numerals — letters, used in the 
Arabic language, to denote enumeration (as you know). In fact, I have now 
settled on using those for my front matter in the Arabic critical edition. In 
fact, now that you mention them both, it seems to me that they produce the same 
out put: ا ب ج د ه و ز … which I would expect from abjadnumerals but not from 
arabicnumerals. Perhaps there is a bug?

But, in any case, the solution of Wolfgang solves my immediate problem. It 
would, of course, be nice not to have had to type out many lines of numbers 
(the Arabic edition has more than 250 sections, i.e. entries), and to have this 
automated when declaring the main language to be Arabic, for example. But it is 
a small price to pay for the flexible functionality. 

All the best, and salam,
Talal

 On 3 Aug 2015, at 03:04, Idris Samawi Hamid ادريس سماوي حامد 
 idris.ha...@colostate.edu wrote:
 
 Salaam, Talal,
 See below:
 
 On Sun, 02 Aug 2015 17:32:44 -0600, tala...@fastmail.fm 
 mailto:tala...@fastmail.fm tala...@fastmail.fm 
 mailto:tala...@fastmail.fm wrote:
 
 Dear all,
 
 When typesetting in Arabic (or, for that matter, other non-Latin scripts), 
 how does one get numerals to appear ‘natively’ in layout structures such as 
 headers, page numbers, line-numbering, and footnote numbers? In the case of 
 Arabic, this means using the so-called “mashriqi”, or 
 “Arabic-Indic”/“Arabic-Hindi” numerals. Is there some option when defining 
 the font family? (I would have thought that using “\mainlanguage[arabic]” 
 would have done it.) Of course, I am using a font that contains the numbers 
 of that script.
 
 I'm on the move, but try these keys in the appropriate structure commands:
 
 numberconversion=arabicnumerals
 numberconversion=abjadnumerals
 
 Failing that, a workaround is to use the m-translate module, and define a 
 translation for each the ten digits. But numberconversion=arabicnumerals is 
 supposed to work.
 
 Wassalaam
 Idris
 
 PS \start-stopsection is now standard (\section is still there, but...)
 
 
 Mind you, if I manually type such numbers into the body of my text, they 
 appear correctly. MWE below.
 
 Best wishes,
 Talal
 
 =
 \setuppapersize[A6]
 \mainlanguage[arabic]
 \definefontfamily[mainface][serif][ALMFixed][features=arabic,range=arabic,]
 \setupbodyfont [mainface,10pt]
 
 \starttext \showframe
 \righttoleft
 
 %\setupdirections[bidi=global,method=two]
 
 \section{section one}
 \startlinenumbering
 \input ward
 \stoplinenumbering
 \footnote{I would like the footnote number — like the page number, section 
 number, and linenumbers — to be in the so-called Arabic-Indic script.}
 
 \section{section two}
 مرحباً بالعالم. ١٢٣٤٥٦٧٨٩٠ مرحباً بالعالم.
 \stoptext
 =
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