Re: [NTG-context] Halfway between itemizations and descriptions

2005-11-24 Thread Hans Hagen

Hi,

Something like this?

(PS. I cannot send mail to your address, it bounces, do you have an 
alternative one?)


Hans


\unprotect

\def\v!txt{txt}

\appendtoks \letvalue\v!txt  \itemgrouptext  \to \itemgroupcommands

\setfalse\txtlistitem

\def\itemgrouptext#1%
{\def\symsymbol{\doitemattributes\itemlevel\c!headstyle\c!headcolor{#1}}%
 \symbolitemtrue
 \settrue\txtlistitem
 \itemgroupitem}

\def\redostartitemgroup[#1][#2]%
{\setfalse\inlinelistitem % new, no indent (leftskip)
 \setfalse\concatnextitem % new, concat
 \setfalse\txtlistitem
 \ifhmode
   \ifconditional\autoconcatnextitem % new, concat
 \ifdim\lastskip=\itemsignal % new, concat
   \settrue\concatnextitem   % new, concat
 \fi % new, concat
   \fi   % new, concat
   \iftextitems\else\doifnotinset\v!text{#1}\par\fi % suboptimal
 \fi
 \begingroup
 \ifnum\itemlevel=\plusone % NIEUW
   \doadaptleftskip {\getitemparameter1\c!margin}%
   \doadaptleftskip {\getitemparameter1\c!leftmargin}%
   \doadaptrightskip{\getitemparameter1\c!rightmargin}%
 \fi
 \dosetraggedcommand{\getitemparameter\itemlevel\c!align}\raggedcommand
 \doifsomething{\getitemparameter\itemlevel\c!indenting}
   {% is \expanded needed?
\expanded{\setupindenting[\getitemparameter\itemlevel\c!indenting]}}%
 \doifinset\v!columns{#1}%
   {\ifinsidecolumns\else\ifnum\itemcolumndepth=\zerocount
  \globallet\itemcolumndepth\itemlevel
  \getitemparameter\itemlevel\c!before
  \processfirstactioninset
[#1]
[  \v!one=\!!counta1\relax,
   \v!two=\!!counta2\relax,
 \v!three=\!!counta3\relax,
  \v!four=\!!counta4\relax,
  \v!five=\!!counta5\relax,
   \s!unknown=[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  \startcolumns
[\c!n=\!!counta, % netter \??op\itemlevel\c!n
 \c!height=,
 \c!rule=\v!off,
 \c!balance=\v!yes,
 \c!align=\v!no]%
\fi\fi}%
 \doifinsetelse\v!intro{#1}\itemintrotrue\itemintrofalse
 \doglobal\increment\noflists
 \let\currentlist\noflists
 \newcounter\noflistelements
 \headitemfalse
 \subitemfalse
 \symbolitemfalse
 \let\marsymbol\relax
 \globallet\somdestination\empty
 \let\symsymbol\empty
 \the\itemgroupcommands
 \setitemlevel{#1}%
 \let\listitem\empty % ** start value
 \doifelsenothing{#1} % iffirstargument
   {\edef\@@opsymbol{\getitemparameter\itemlevel\c!symbol}%
\letgvalueempty{\@@globalitemsymbol\itemlevel}%
\global\letitemparameter\itemlevel\v!continue\empty
\dosetupitemgroupvariable[\itemlevel][#2]}
   {\dosetupitemgroupconstant[\itemlevel][#1]%
\dosetupitemgroupvariable[\itemlevel][#2]%
\doifinsetelse\v!continue{#1}%
{\edef\@@opsymbol{\noexpand\getvalue{\@@globalitemsymbol\itemlevel}}%
   \getitemparameter\itemlevel\v!continue}
{\edef\@@opsymbol{\noexpand\getitemparameter{\itemlevel}{\c!symbol}}%
   \global\setitemparameter\itemlevel\v!continue
 {\dosetupitemgroupconstant[\itemlevel][#1]%
  \dosetupitemgroupvariable[\itemlevel][#2]}}%
\def\docommando##1% \setitemmark resets \docommando
  {\doifnot{##1}{0}{\setitemmark{##1}}}%
\processcommalist[#1]\docommando}%
 \ifx\listitem\empty
   \setitemmark\@@opsymbol % ** default value
   \ifx\listitem\empty
 \edef\currentitemsymbol{\itemlevel}%
   \fi
 \fi
 \ifautoitemintro\ifnum\prevgraf3
   \itemintrotrue
 \fi\fi
 \ifparagraphitems
   \ifnum\itemlevel\plusone
 \letitemparameter\itemlevel\c!inbetween\empty
   \fi
 \else\ifpackeditems
   \letitemparameter\itemlevel\c!inbetween\empty
 \fi\fi
 \calculatelistwidth\itemlevel{\dimen0}%
 \ifdim\dimen0\zeropoint\relax
   \ifconditional\inlinelistitem\else
 \advance\leftskip \dimen0\relax
   \fi
 \fi}

\def\dolistitem % evt aantal items opslaan per niveau, scheelt zoeken
{\iftextitems
  % begin of item
 \else
   \par
 \fi
 \ignorespaces
 \increment\noflistelements
 \ifnum\itemcolumndepth=\zerocount \ifoptimizeitems
   \ifnum\noflistelements=\plusone% tgv bv kolommen/nesting
 \findtwopassdata\s!list{\noflists:}% % wordt soms de volgorde
   \fi% verstoord, vandaar \find
   \iftwopassdatafound
 \ifcase0\twopassdata\relax \twopassdatafoundfalse \fi
   \fi
   \iftwopassdatafound
 \ifnum\twopassdata=3
   \ifnum\noflistelements1
 \doitembreak\itemnobreak
   \fi
 \else\ifnum\twopassdata3
   \ifnum\noflistelements=2
 \ifitemintro
   \doitembreak\nobreak
 \else
   \doitembreak\itemnobreak
 \fi
   \else\ifnum\twopassdata=\noflistelements\relax
 \doitembreak\itemnobreak
   \else\ifnum\noflistelements2
 \doitembreak\itembreak
   \else
 \ifitemintro\else\doitembreak\itembreak\fi
   \fi\fi\fi
 \fi\fi
   \fi
 \fi\fi
 \noindent
 \setbox8\hbox
   {\ifheaditem
  \ifsymbolitem
\symsymbol
  \else
\doitemattributes\itemlevel\c!headstyle\c!headcolor{\listitem}%
  \fi
\else
  

Re[2]: [NTG-context] Halfway between itemizations and descriptions

2005-11-24 Thread Giuseppe Bilotta
Thursday, November 24, 2005 Hans Hagen wrote:

 Hi,

 Something like this?

Yes, that's a good start :) however, I would leave the
option to have both the symbol and the text, exactly as if
it was run-in \head (i.e. with the actual item test
following the \head text on the same line). However, you ma
want to have this as an option to \head ... maybe it can
already be achieved with an appropriate afterhead?


 (PS. I cannot send mail to your address, it bounces, do you have an
 alternative one?)

Hm, which address is bouncing? bigfoot is long dead, use
the one I'm sending this from.


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Re: [NTG-context] Halfway between itemizations and descriptions

2005-11-24 Thread Hans Hagen

Giuseppe Bilotta wrote:


Yes, that's a good start :) however, I would leave the
option to have both the symbol and the text, exactly as if
it was run-in \head (i.e. with the actual item test
following the \head text on the same line). However, you ma
want to have this as an option to \head ... maybe it can
already be achieved with an appropriate afterhead?
 



so you want

1.  somethingbold  whatever text follows in running font

2.  somethingelsebold  whatever othertext follows in running font


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Re: [NTG-context] Halfway between itemizations and descriptions

2005-11-24 Thread Hans Hagen

Giuseppe Bilotta wrote:


(PS. I cannot send mail to your address, it bounces, do you have an
alternative one?)
   



Hm, which address is bouncing? bigfoot is long dead, use
the one I'm sending this from.

 


I get:

When trying to deliver your message, the mail server at controller-1 encountered
problems with the following addresses:

For [EMAIL PROTECTED], Site (iol.it/193.70.193.95) said: 504 controller-1: 
Helo command rejected: need fully-qualified hostname

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Re: [NTG-context] Halfway between itemizations and descriptions

2005-11-24 Thread Taco Hoekwater

Hans Hagen wrote:

Giuseppe Bilotta wrote:


Yes, that's a good start :) however, I would leave the
option to have both the symbol and the text, exactly as if
it was run-in \head (i.e. with the actual item test
following the \head text on the same line). However, you ma
want to have this as an option to \head ... maybe it can
already be achieved with an appropriate afterhead?
 



so you want

1.  somethingbold  whatever text follows in running font

2.  somethingelsebold  whatever othertext follows in running font


That would be quite simple, like so:

  \def\itemplus{\dosingleempty\doitemplus}
  \def\doitemplus[#1]#2{\item[#1] {\bf #2}}

Right?

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Re[2]: [NTG-context] Halfway between itemizations and descriptions

2005-11-24 Thread Giuseppe Bilotta
Thursday, November 24, 2005 Taco Hoekwater wrote:

 Hans Hagen wrote:
 Giuseppe Bilotta wrote:
 
 Yes, that's a good start :) however, I would leave the
 option to have both the symbol and the text, exactly as if
 it was run-in \head (i.e. with the actual item test
 following the \head text on the same line). However, you ma
 want to have this as an option to \head ... maybe it can
 already be achieved with an appropriate afterhead?
  

 
 so you want
 
 1.  somethingbold  whatever text follows in running font
 
 2.  somethingelsebold  whatever othertext follows in running font

 That would be quite simple, like so:

\def\itemplus{\dosingleempty\doitemplus}
\def\doitemplus[#1]#2{\item[#1] {\bf #2}}

For example (where \bf is \someconfigurablecommand).

However, I find it really 'funny' that there are n different
methods to create items in an enumeration ... should these
be rather enumeration options, so that you can use the same
source code and just chang the stuff in \setup/\staritemize
to achieve the different effects?

This is why I was thinking of using \head, still, for
example.

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Re: [NTG-context] Halfway between itemizations and descriptions

2005-11-24 Thread Taco Hoekwater

Giuseppe Bilotta wrote:

However, I find it really 'funny' that there are n different
methods to create items in an enumeration ... should these
be rather enumeration options, so that you can use the same
source code and just chang the stuff in \setup/\staritemize
to achieve the different effects?

This is why I was thinking of using \head, still, for
example.


Ah, I see. So instead of just the

   \setupitemize[symbol=]

have something more like

   \setupitemize[textcommand=,
 numbercommand=,
 command=]

as for heads and such?

Taco



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Re[2]: [NTG-context] Halfway between itemizations and descriptions

2005-11-24 Thread Giuseppe Bilotta
Thursday, November 24, 2005 Hans Hagen wrote:

 Giuseppe Bilotta wrote:

(PS. I cannot send mail to your address, it bounces, do you have an
alternative one?)



Hm, which address is bouncing? bigfoot is long dead, use
the one I'm sending this from.

  

 I get:

 When trying to deliver your message, the mail server at controller-1 
 encountered
 problems with the following addresses:

 For [EMAIL PROTECTED], Site (iol.it/193.70.193.95)
 said: 504 controller-1: Helo command rejected: need
 fully-qualified hostname

Looks like your sending program or ISP doesn't provide a
fully qualified hostname, but rather something like
[EMAIL PROTECTED] or something.

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Re[2]: [NTG-context] Halfway between itemizations and descriptions

2005-11-24 Thread Giuseppe Bilotta
Thursday, November 24, 2005 Taco Hoekwater wrote:

 Giuseppe Bilotta wrote:
 However, I find it really 'funny' that there are n different
 methods to create items in an enumeration ... should these
 be rather enumeration options, so that you can use the same
 source code and just chang the stuff in \setup/\staritemize
 to achieve the different effects?
 
 This is why I was thinking of using \head, still, for
 example.

 Ah, I see. So instead of just the

 \setupitemize[symbol=]

 have something more like

 \setupitemize[textcommand=,
   numbercommand=,
   command=]

 as for heads and such?

Or maybe something as simple as texthead=yes :)

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Re: [NTG-context] Halfway between itemizations and descriptions

2005-11-24 Thread Hans Hagen

Giuseppe Bilotta wrote:



This is why I was thinking of using \head, still, for
example.

 

but \head does not take an argument; it just treats the first paragraph 
as special


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Re: [NTG-context] Halfway between itemizations and descriptions

2005-11-24 Thread Hans Hagen

Giuseppe Bilotta wrote:


Thursday, November 24, 2005 Taco Hoekwater wrote:

 


Giuseppe Bilotta wrote:
   


However, I find it really 'funny' that there are n different
methods to create items in an enumeration ... should these
be rather enumeration options, so that you can use the same
source code and just chang the stuff in \setup/\staritemize
to achieve the different effects?

This is why I was thinking of using \head, still, for
example.
 


this is a variant of taco's posted solution:

\unprotect

\def\complexdoitemgroupitem[#1]% too many historical \ignorespaces
 {\ifconditional\textlistitem
% begin of item
  \else
\par
  \fi
  \ignorespaces
  \ifconditional\concatnextitem % new, concat
\doitembreak\nobreak% new, concat
  \fi   % new, concat
  \doadvanceitem
  \ifnum\itemcolumndepth=0\relax\ifnum\noflistelements0\relax
\doitembreak\nobreak
  \fi\fi
  \ifconditional\firstlistitem
\setfalse\firstlistitem
\begingroup
\ifcase\itemlevel
\or % 1
  \ifnum\itemcolumndepth=0\relax
\ifconditional\introlistitem\doitembreak\nobreak\fi
\getitemparameter1\c!before
\ifconditional\introlistitem\doitembreak\nobreak\fi
  \fi
\else % 2 en hoger
  \ifconditional\paragraphlistitem \else
\let\previtemlevel\itemlevel
\decrement\previtemlevel
\ifcase\autoitemgroupspacing\relax % nieuw
  \getitemparameter\itemlevel\c!before
\or
   \doifelsenothing{\getitemparameter\itemlevel\c!before}
 {\getitemparameter\itemlevel\c!before}
 {\getitemparameter\previtemlevel\c!inbetween}%
\else
  \getitemparameter\previtemlevel\c!inbetween % == itemlevel-1
\fi
  \fi
\fi
  \else
\getitemparameter\itemlevel\c!inbetween
  \fi
  \ifconditional\concatnextitem % new, concat
\vskip-\lastskip% new, concat
\vskip-\lineheight  % new, concat
\nobreak% new, concat
  \fi   % new, concat
  \ignorespaces
  \dolistitem
  \ifconditional\packlistitem
\setupwhitespace[\v!none]%
  \fi
  \getitemparameter\itemlevel\c!inner
  \marsymbol
  \let\marsymbol\relax
  \doifsomething{#1}
{\doifnot\itemreference\unknownitemreference
   {\bgroup
\protectconversion
\rawreference\s!lst{#1}\itemreference
\egroup}}%
  \strut % added 11-08-99
  \setfalse\concatnextitem % new, concat
  \hskip\itemsignal% new, concat
  \getitemparameter\itemlevel\c!command}

\def\defaultitemcommand
 {\EveryPar{\ignorespaces}%
  \ignorespaces}

\def\doinitializeitemgrouplevel#1%
 {\copyparameters
[\??op\currentitemgroup#1][\??oo]
[\c!width,\c!factor,\c!distance,\c!align,\c!option,
 \c!style,\c!marstyle,\c!symstyle,\c!headstyle,
 \c!color,\c!marcolor,\c!symcolor,\c!headcolor,
 \c!beforehead,\c!afterhead,\c!before,\c!inbetween,\c!after,
 \c!stopper,\c!placestopper,\c!indenting,
 \c!n,\c!inner,\c!symbol,\c!margin,\c!items,
 \c!leftmargin,\c!rightmargin,\c!indentnext,
 \c!command,
 \c!start,\c!lefttext,\c!righttext]}

% test this: saves hash entries and is also faster
%
% \let\doinitializeitemgrouplevel\gobbleoneargument

\def\getitemparameter#1#2%
 {\executeifdefined{\??op\currentitemgroup#1#2}%
 {\executeifdefined{\??op\currentitemgroup  #2}%
 {\executeifdefined{\??oo   #2

\setupitemgroups[\c!command=\defaultitemcommand]

\starttext

\def\MyItemCommand#1{{\bf#1}\quad}

\setupitemgroup[itemize][command=\MyItemCommand]

\startitemize
\item {test} is this okay?
\item {test} is this okay?
\item {test} is this okay?
\stopitemize

\stoptext

so, this way you can hook in a command that is executed after the symbol 
placement


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Re[2]: [NTG-context] Halfway between itemizations and descriptions

2005-11-24 Thread Giuseppe Bilotta
Thursday, November 24, 2005 Hans Hagen wrote:

 this is a variant of taco's posted solution:

[snip]

 so, this way you can hook in a command that is executed after the symbol
 placement

I like it! (Ok, I won't use it this time because in the mean
time I reworked the text to use \head, with the benefit of
some extra lines which in a PhD thesis are always welcome
:))

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Re: [NTG-context] Halfway between itemizations and descriptions

2005-11-24 Thread Hans Hagen

Giuseppe Bilotta wrote:


Thursday, November 24, 2005 Hans Hagen wrote:

 


this is a variant of taco's posted solution:
   



[snip]

 


so, this way you can hook in a command that is executed after the symbol
placement
   



I like it! (Ok, I won't use it this time because in the mean
time I reworked the text to use \head, with the benefit of
some extra lines which in a PhD thesis are always welcome
:))

 


anyway, i posted an update at:

 www.pragma-ade.com/temp/cont-tmf.zip

this one has

- the interline patch
- the itemize extensions
- vit's columnset mark stuff (yet imperfect but ..)

it's in /temp because i want it tested first -)

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Re[2]: [NTG-context] Halfway between itemizations and descriptions

2005-11-24 Thread Giuseppe Bilotta
Thursday, November 24, 2005 Hans Hagen wrote:

 Giuseppe Bilotta wrote:

Thursday, November 24, 2005 Hans Hagen wrote:

  

this is a variant of taco's posted solution:



[snip]

  

so, this way you can hook in a command that is executed after the symbol
placement



I like it! (Ok, I won't use it this time because in the mean
time I reworked the text to use \head, with the benefit of
some extra lines which in a PhD thesis are always welcome
:))

  

 anyway, i posted an update at:

   www.pragma-ade.com/temp/cont-tmf.zip

 this one has

 - the interline patch
 - the itemize extensions
 - vit's columnset mark stuff (yet imperfect but ..)

 it's in /temp because i want it tested first -)

Will I ever be able to thank you enough? :)

Setting up the interline space works, thank you very much.

(A minor nitpick: AFAIK standard typographical rules require
footnotes to be single-spaced even when the text is
doublespaced. Can we have an interlinespace= option for
footnotes (and all other forms of non-mainline text)? Also,
while the lists are not double-spaced (good!) the index
(register) is. I think it shouldn't be.)

(Also: for miktex you should set UseEnginePath to *false*;
and kpsewhich does not use --engine= under miktex, at all.)

I think that to rollout my thesis the only thing that needs
a fix is the (local) \placecontent not working when
resetnumber=no (see appropriate email)

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[NTG-context] Halfway between itemizations and descriptions

2005-11-23 Thread Giuseppe Bilotta
Hello,

does ConTeXt have something which is halfway between
itemizations and descriptions? I have a small set of
properties that should be enumerated together. Right now I'm
doing it by defining a \description and then doing

\desc{something} stuff \par
\desc{something else} other stuff \par
etc

However, this is an overall cumbersome syntax, especially
for the result I would like to obtain.

using \startitemize ...\stopitemize with \sym{something}
\sym{something else} comes *very* close to what I would like
but I can't seem to find a way to prevent the \sym text to
wade into the actualt text of the description.

Suggestions?

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Re: [NTG-context] Halfway between itemizations and descriptions

2005-11-23 Thread Hans Hagen

Giuseppe Bilotta wrote:


Hello,

does ConTeXt have something which is halfway between
itemizations and descriptions? I have a small set of
properties that should be enumerated together. Right now I'm
doing it by defining a \description and then doing

\desc{something} stuff \par
\desc{something else} other stuff \par
etc
 


\startdesc {something}  \stopdesc

is an alternative syntax


However, this is an overall cumbersome syntax, especially
for the result I would like to obtain.

using \startitemize ...\stopitemize with \sym{something}
\sym{something else} comes *very* close to what I would like
but I can't seem to find a way to prevent the \sym text to
wade into the actualt text of the description.

Suggestions?
 


you want more space for the sym?

\startitemize[5*broad]
\item {word} 
\item {another} 
\stopitemize

(if needed, you can define an itemgroup with a default wider left margin)

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Re[2]: [NTG-context] Halfway between itemizations and descriptions

2005-11-23 Thread Giuseppe Bilotta
Wednesday, November 23, 2005 Hans Hagen wrote:

 Giuseppe Bilotta wrote:

Hello,

does ConTeXt have something which is halfway between
itemizations and descriptions? I have a small set of
properties that should be enumerated together. Right now I'm
doing it by defining a \description and then doing

\desc{something} stuff \par
\desc{something else} other stuff \par
etc
  

 \startdesc {something}  \stopdesc

 is an alternative syntax

Yeah, I know, but it's still clumsy.

However, this is an overall cumbersome syntax, especially
for the result I would like to obtain.

using \startitemize ...\stopitemize with \sym{something}
\sym{something else} comes *very* close to what I would like
but I can't seem to find a way to prevent the \sym text to
wade into the actualt text of the description.

Suggestions?
  

 you want more space for the sym?

 \startitemize[5*broad]
 \item {word} 
 \item {another} 
 \stopitemize

 (if needed, you can define an itemgroup with a default wider left margin)

No please this is horrible. I would like the item/desc/head
to 'run in' the text. I guess I'll have to use the \startdesc stuff :\

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Re[3]: [NTG-context] Halfway between itemizations and descriptions

2005-11-23 Thread Giuseppe Bilotta
Wednesday, November 23, 2005 Giuseppe Bilotta wrote:

 Wednesday, November 23, 2005 Hans Hagen wrote:

 you want more space for the sym?

 \startitemize[5*broad]
 \item {word} 
 \item {another} 
 \stopitemize

 (if needed, you can define an itemgroup with a default wider left margin)

 No please this is horrible. I would like the item/desc/head
 to 'run in' the text. I guess I'll have to use the \startdesc stuff :\

To be precise: the effect I'm looking for is one which could
be obtained by \head commands in \start/\stopitemize, if we
could have the heads run-in with the text.

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