Re: [NTG-context] Re: LucidaBright fonts...I'm stumped
Henk Koster wrote: Hans, you said that you posted an updated version of cont-fnt.zip, but all I could find was the 1-12-2005 version without texnansi fmt-files (only the ec ones). Anyway, I have enough information now to apply the LB fonts if I choose to do so. Again, many thanks for the response. ah, a mess up, i'll repair that Hans ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
[NTG-context] Re: LucidaBright fonts...I'm stumped
As a follow-up to my earlier message... I don't understand why ConTeXt cannot use the LB .afm/.pfb/.tfm files that are already present (for the texnansi encoding) in my LaTeX setup. Why does texfont need to duplicate all these files? Does ConTeXt not use the directory path search of teTeX? It seems to me that, in my case, texfonts only needs to generate files that are peculiar to ConTeXt, like texnansi-yandy-lucida.tex and .map, and further use the .afm, .pfb and .tfm files that are already present -- is there a way to do that? -- H.A.J. Koster Behavioral axioms are right, but agents make mistakes... (attributed to L.J. Savage) ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] Re: LucidaBright fonts...I'm stumped
Henk Koster wrote: As a follow-up to my earlier message... I don't understand why ConTeXt cannot use the LB .afm/.pfb/.tfm files that are already present (for the texnansi encoding) in my LaTeX setup. Why does texfont need to duplicate all these files? Does ConTeXt not use the directory path search of teTeX? we are using lb fonts for many year snow, and i'm not going to change my setups -) also, in the past texnansi metrics were not shipped consistently with tex distributions; i've been bitten by this a few times keep in mind that most of those metrics originate in the latex world, so when something changes, the authors probably also patch the latex part of it; i'm out of that loop so i want to play safe; It seems to me that, in my case, texfonts only needs to generate files that are peculiar to ConTeXt, like texnansi-yandy-lucida.tex and that' sjust a text file .map, and further use the .afm, .pfb and .tfm files that are already indeed we have such map files because (1) we needed them (2) we want non conflicting specs (3) we only want to load what is needed (older pdftex versions are slow on big files) (4) in future releaes the map files will go away, and we will use mapline specs at runtime) (5) in case you wonder about updmap: it was not present when texfont came around, and is limited in its options (6) i want context to be able to work with the tons of commercial fonts out there (tex distributions only support a neglectable fraction of commercial fonts) as it happens, lucida is known to tex people and therefore has support, but that's not true for many other fonts present -- is there a way to do that? sure, just map those long names to the ones you want, so, make a list of mappings grep berry type-*.tex will show you how. We can make a [berry][lucida][texnansi] typescript which can be used for those who want (in that case you also need to provide a proper map file for only the lucida fonts) so .. no problem in adding that support, but others have to do the work -) Hans ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
[NTG-context] Re: LucidaBright fonts...I'm stumped
On Fri, 02 Dec 2005 16:34:07 +0100, Hans Hagen wrote: i'm wondering ... do the lucida font nowadays ship with the math specific tfm files (that used to be the case) Hans Well, my copy of the LB (and LB Expert) fonts dates from 1993 (on floppies), although YY sent me a free update with the Euro glyphs a few years ago. Yes, they came with all sorts of tfm-files and even tft-files (huh?), and also pfa-files (that I've long since converted to pfb-files). I'm grateful for all the responses that I've been getting. I hope that I don't offend people by saying that I don't like the steep learning curve required to get the LB fonts ready for use in ConTeXt documents; especially not since the newly acquired knowledge becomes useless to me the moment it has been succesfully applied... That would be the third time since doing my dissertation in the original TeX, further work in LaTeX, and now possibly in ConTeXt. Hans, you said that you posted an updated version of cont-fnt.zip, but all I could find was the 1-12-2005 version without texnansi fmt-files (only the ec ones). Anyway, I have enough information now to apply the LB fonts if I choose to do so. Again, many thanks for the response. Henk Koster -- H.A.J. Koster Behavioral axioms are right, but agents make mistakes... (attributed to L.J. Savage) ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context