Re: [NTG-context] Support for Optional Content Groups

[Meer, Hans van der]

> On 03 Jul 2014, at 19:54, Hans Hagen  wrote:
> 
> I tried this in acrobat:
> 
> \defineviewerlayer[visibleandprint]  [printable=yes,state=start]
> \defineviewerlayer[visibleandnotprint]   [printable=no, state=start]
> \defineviewerlayer[notvisibleandprint]   [printable=yes,state=stop]
> \defineviewerlayer[notvisibleandnotprint][printable=no, state=stop]
> 
> \setupinteraction[state=start]
> 
> \starttext
> 
> \startviewerlayer[visibleandprint]   visible and print \stopviewerlayer 
> \blank
> \startviewerlayer[visibleandnotprint]visible and not print 
> \stopviewerlayer \blank
> \startviewerlayer[notvisibleandprint]not visible and print 
> \stopviewerlayer \blank
> \startviewerlayer[notvisibleandnotprint] not visible and not print 
> \stopviewerlayer \blank
> 
> \stoptext
> 
> and found out that we need an extra piece of info for acrobat to be happy. 
> I'll upload a beta with that addition.
> 
> I wonder if other viewers handle layers well.

I tried this today and report the results, curious to see how on my Apple 
Macintosh the following readers cope with this:

- Adobe Acrobat Reader DC version 15.016.20041 (most recent): does as is 
intended
- Apple Preview: shows all four, definitely a bad score for Apple here. 

Hans van der Meer




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[NTG-context] Support for Optional Content Groups

[Chris Chapman]

I am new to ConTeXt (coming from LaTeX), and am really impressed. Great work!

I am working on a document that has layers that I want to be screen-only, 
similar in approach to this: 
http://tex.stackexchange.com/questions/167846/implementing-full-page-screen-only-print-only-in-pdf

I am assuming that Optional Content Groups would be the best way to do this. 
How would I set something up like this in ConTeXt/LuaTeX? I know I could make a 
screen-only version and a print version of the output pdf, but I want to have 
my cake and eat it too ;)

Thanks in advance,

Chris Chapman
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Re: [NTG-context] Support for Optional Content Groups

[Wolfgang Schuster]

Am 03.07.2014 um 17:55 schrieb Chris Chapman ch...@pentandra.com:

 I am new to ConTeXt (coming from LaTeX), and am really impressed. Great work!
 
 I am working on a document that has layers that I want to be screen-only, 
 similar in approach to this: 
 http://tex.stackexchange.com/questions/167846/implementing-full-page-screen-only-print-only-in-pdf
 
 I am assuming that Optional Content Groups would be the best way to do this. 
 How would I set something up like this in ConTeXt/LuaTeX? I know I could make 
 a screen-only version and a print version of the output pdf, but I want to 
 have my cake and eat it too ;)


You can test if the layers are hidden when you print the following example, I 
tried the Adobe Reader on my Mac and they where still visible.

\setupinteraction[state=start]

\defineoverlay[PageBackground] [\startMPcode fill fullsquare 
xyscaled(OverlayWidth,OverlayHeight) withcolor \MPcolor{orange} ; \stopMPcode]
\defineoverlay[FrameBackground][\startMPcode fill fullsquare 
xyscaled(OverlayWidth,OverlayHeight) withcolor \MPcolor{green} ;  \stopMPcode]

%\setupbackgrounds[page][background=color,backgroundcolor=orange] % doesn’t 
work because you can only hide the background together with the text
\setupbackgrounds[page][background=PageBackground]

\setupviewerlayer[printable=no]

\defineviewerlayer[mylayer]

%\showlayoutcomponents % use this to enable/disable certain text areas

\starttext

\input knuth

\startviewerlayer[mylayer]
\input ward
\stopviewerlayer

\input tufte

\startframedtext[width=max,background=FrameBackground]
\input weisman
\stopframedtext

\stoptext

Wolfgang
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Re: [NTG-context] Support for Optional Content Groups

[Hans Hagen]

On 7/3/2014 5:55 PM, Chris Chapman wrote:

I am new to ConTeXt (coming from LaTeX), and am really impressed. Great work!

I am working on a document that has layers that I want to be screen-only, 
similar in approach to this:
http://tex.stackexchange.com/questions/167846/implementing-full-page-screen-only-print-only-in-pdf

I am assuming that Optional Content Groups would be the best way to do this. 
How would I set something up like this in ConTeXt/LuaTeX? I know I could make a 
screen-only version and a print version of the output pdf, but I want to have 
my cake and eat it too ;)


(also see wolfgangs mail)

I tried this in acrobat:

\defineviewerlayer[visibleandprint]  [printable=yes,state=start]
\defineviewerlayer[visibleandnotprint]   [printable=no, state=start]
\defineviewerlayer[notvisibleandprint]   [printable=yes,state=stop]
\defineviewerlayer[notvisibleandnotprint][printable=no, state=stop]

\setupinteraction[state=start]

\starttext

\startviewerlayer[visibleandprint]   visible and print 
\stopviewerlayer \blank
\startviewerlayer[visibleandnotprint]visible and not print 
\stopviewerlayer \blank
\startviewerlayer[notvisibleandprint]not visible and print 
\stopviewerlayer \blank
\startviewerlayer[notvisibleandnotprint] not visible and not print 
\stopviewerlayer \blank


\stoptext

and found out that we need an extra piece of info for acrobat to be 
happy. I'll upload a beta with that addition.


I wonder if other viewers handle layers well.

Hans


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Re: [NTG-context] Support for Optional Content Groups

[Chris Chapman]

Thanks Hans and Wolfgang! Yes, it looks like most PDF viewers don't handle 
layers right now, but I'm fine with Acrobat for this use case. 

Chris Chapman
Pentandra


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 From: Hans Hagen pra...@wxs.nl
 To: mailing list for ConTeXt users ntg-context@ntg.nl
 Sent: Thursday, July 3, 2014 11:54:27 AM
 Subject: Re: [NTG-context] Support for Optional Content Groups
 
 On 7/3/2014 5:55 PM, Chris Chapman wrote:
  I am new to ConTeXt (coming from LaTeX), and am really impressed. Great
  work!
 
  I am working on a document that has layers that I want to be screen-only,
  similar in approach to this:
  http://tex.stackexchange.com/questions/167846/implementing-full-page-screen-only-print-only-in-pdf
 
  I am assuming that Optional Content Groups would be the best way to do
  this. How would I set something up like this in ConTeXt/LuaTeX? I know I
  could make a screen-only version and a print version of the output pdf,
  but I want to have my cake and eat it too ;)
 
 (also see wolfgangs mail)
 
 I tried this in acrobat:
 
 \defineviewerlayer[visibleandprint]  [printable=yes,state=start]
 \defineviewerlayer[visibleandnotprint]   [printable=no, state=start]
 \defineviewerlayer[notvisibleandprint]   [printable=yes,state=stop]
 \defineviewerlayer[notvisibleandnotprint][printable=no, state=stop]
 
 \setupinteraction[state=start]
 
 \starttext
 
 \startviewerlayer[visibleandprint]   visible and print
 \stopviewerlayer \blank
 \startviewerlayer[visibleandnotprint]visible and not print
 \stopviewerlayer \blank
 \startviewerlayer[notvisibleandprint]not visible and print
 \stopviewerlayer \blank
 \startviewerlayer[notvisibleandnotprint] not visible and not print
 \stopviewerlayer \blank
 
 \stoptext
 
 and found out that we need an extra piece of info for acrobat to be
 happy. I'll upload a beta with that addition.
 
 I wonder if other viewers handle layers well.
 
 Hans
 
 
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