[NTG-context] defineindenting

2012-10-26 Thread Piotr Kopszak
Hello list,

I feel a bit out of context not following the list closely for some
time so maybe this has been solved already. I cannot get
defineindenting to work. Example attached.

Best

Piotr

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Re: [NTG-context] defineindenting

2012-10-26 Thread Sietse Brouwer
Hello Piotr,

 I cannot get defineindenting to work. Example attached.


To input example text, use
\input knuth
not
\knuth .

After that change your example works for me, apart from producing something like
'. . .   :' in the indent space --- I am not familiar with
MkII, so I can't tell you whether this behaviour is expected or
another bug. I have attached my output.

\defineindenting[myindenting][width=5cm]
\starttext

\myindenting
\input knuth

\stoptext

Kind regards,
Sietse


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Re: [NTG-context] defineindenting

2012-10-26 Thread Piotr Kopszak
O yes, silly mistake! Anyway I'm still getting
-
! Undefined control sequence.

system   tex  error on line 1 in file test-indentations.tex:
Undefined control sequence ...

 1   \defineindenting[myindenting][width=5cm]
-

and no indenting at all when used with mkIV which is what I'd like to
use (mkII is out of question).


2012/10/26 Sietse Brouwer sbbrou...@gmail.com:
 Hello Piotr,

 I cannot get defineindenting to work. Example attached.


 To input example text, use
 \input knuth
 not
 \knuth .

 After that change your example works for me, apart from producing something 
 like
 '. . .   :' in the indent space --- I am not familiar with
 MkII, so I can't tell you whether this behaviour is expected or
 another bug. I have attached my output.

 \defineindenting[myindenting][width=5cm]
 \starttext

 \myindenting
 \input knuth

 \stoptext

 Kind regards,
 Sietse

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Re: [NTG-context] defineindenting

2012-10-26 Thread Marco Patzer
2012-10-26 Sietse Brouwer:

 Hello Piotr,
 
  I cannot get defineindenting to work. Example attached.
 
 
 To input example text, use
 \input knuth
 not
 \knuth .
 
 After that change your example works for me, apart from producing something 
 like
 '. . .   :' in the indent space --- I am not familiar with
 MkII, so I can't tell you whether this behaviour is expected or
 another bug.

An MkIV 2011.11.29 23:11 produces the same result as MkII, the wiki
however says Mkii only. It seems that this command was removed or
changed in 2012.01.11 10:58. I never used it myself.


Marco

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Re: [NTG-context] defineindenting

2012-10-26 Thread Piotr Kopszak
Right, so is there a replacement for \defineindenting which works in
the recent version?

2012/10/26 Marco Patzer home...@lavabit.com:
 2012-10-26 Sietse Brouwer:

 Hello Piotr,

  I cannot get defineindenting to work. Example attached.


 To input example text, use
 \input knuth
 not
 \knuth .

 After that change your example works for me, apart from producing something 
 like
 '. . .   :' in the indent space --- I am not familiar with
 MkII, so I can't tell you whether this behaviour is expected or
 another bug.

 An MkIV 2011.11.29 23:11 produces the same result as MkII, the wiki
 however says Mkii only. It seems that this command was removed or
 changed in 2012.01.11 10:58. I never used it myself.


 Marco

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Re: [NTG-context] defineindenting

2012-10-26 Thread Marco Patzer
2012-10-26 Piotr Kopszak:

 Right, so is there a replacement for \defineindenting which works in
 the recent version?

I don't know what \defineindenting is supposed to do. I can hardly
believe that the dots in the output are intended. What about this:

\definedelimitedtext
  [indenting]
  [leftmargin=4cm, rightmargin=]

\starttext
  \startindenting
\input knuth
  \stopindenting
\stoptext


Marco

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Re: [NTG-context] defineindenting

2012-10-26 Thread Piotr Kopszak
Many thanks! The wiki says it is used to define a collection of
indenting settings. I used it to indent more then in the case of
other paragraphs the  first line of the first paragraph in a chapter,
so your solution is unfortunately not exactly what I mean.

Best

Piotr
2012/10/26 Marco Patzer home...@lavabit.com:
 2012-10-26 Piotr Kopszak:

 Right, so is there a replacement for \defineindenting which works in
 the recent version?

 I don't know what \defineindenting is supposed to do. I can hardly
 believe that the dots in the output are intended. What about this:

 \definedelimitedtext
   [indenting]
   [leftmargin=4cm, rightmargin=]

 \starttext
   \startindenting
 \input knuth
   \stopindenting
 \stoptext


 Marco

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Re: [NTG-context] defineindenting

2012-10-26 Thread Sietse Brouwer
NB: whatever is on the wiki page on that article was added by me just
now, and represents a best guess only. I think it's correct, based on
what I saw it do when I tried your mkii example, but a better
description is welcome.

--Sietse

On Fri, Oct 26, 2012 at 3:28 PM, Piotr Kopszak kops...@gmail.com wrote:
 Many thanks! The wiki says it is used to define a collection of
 indenting settings. I used it to indent more then in the case of
 other paragraphs the  first line of the first paragraph in a chapter,
 so your solution is unfortunately not exactly what I mean.

 Best

 Piotr
 2012/10/26 Marco Patzer home...@lavabit.com:
 2012-10-26 Piotr Kopszak:

 Right, so is there a replacement for \defineindenting which works in
 the recent version?

 I don't know what \defineindenting is supposed to do. I can hardly
 believe that the dots in the output are intended. What about this:

 \definedelimitedtext
   [indenting]
   [leftmargin=4cm, rightmargin=]

 \starttext
   \startindenting
 \input knuth
   \stopindenting
 \stoptext


 Marco

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Re: [NTG-context] defineindenting

2012-10-26 Thread Marco Patzer
2012-10-26 Piotr Kopszak:

 Many thanks! The wiki says it is used to define a collection of
 indenting settings. I used it to indent more then in the case of
 other paragraphs the  first line of the first paragraph in a chapter,
 so your solution is unfortunately not exactly what I mean.

To indent the first line you can use

  \setupindenting [yes, 2cm]

That, however, is not configurable. And frankly I've never seen
varying paragraph indentations in a document. If you really need it
you can build a wrapper around this.


\def\defineindenting
  {\dodoubleempty\dodefineindenting}

\def\dodefineindenting [#1][#2]
  {\setvalue{#1}{\setupindenting[yes, #2]}}

\defineindenting [first]  [2cm]
\defineindenting [second] [3cm]

\starttext
  \first
  \input knuth

  \second
  \input knuth
\stoptext


Marco

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Re: [NTG-context] defineindenting

2012-10-26 Thread Piotr Kopszak
That did the trick. Yes, I know it's weird. Technology makes strange
things happen sometimes ;)

Thanks!

Piotr

2012/10/26 Marco Patzer home...@lavabit.com:
 2012-10-26 Piotr Kopszak:

 Many thanks! The wiki says it is used to define a collection of
 indenting settings. I used it to indent more then in the case of
 other paragraphs the  first line of the first paragraph in a chapter,
 so your solution is unfortunately not exactly what I mean.

 To indent the first line you can use

   \setupindenting [yes, 2cm]

 That, however, is not configurable. And frankly I've never seen
 varying paragraph indentations in a document. If you really need it
 you can build a wrapper around this.


 \def\defineindenting
   {\dodoubleempty\dodefineindenting}

 \def\dodefineindenting [#1][#2]
   {\setvalue{#1}{\setupindenting[yes, #2]}}

 \defineindenting [first]  [2cm]
 \defineindenting [second] [3cm]

 \starttext
   \first
   \input knuth

   \second
   \input knuth
 \stoptext


 Marco

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Re: [NTG-context] defineindenting

2012-10-26 Thread Wolfgang Schuster

Am 26.10.2012 um 13:53 schrieb Sietse Brouwer sbbrou...@gmail.com:

 Hello Piotr,
 
 I cannot get defineindenting to work. Example attached.
 
 
 To input example text, use
 \input knuth
 not
 \knuth .
 
 After that change your example works for me, apart from producing something 
 like
 '. . .   :' in the indent space --- I am not familiar with
 MkII, so I can't tell you whether this behaviour is expected or
 another bug. I have attached my output.
 
 \defineindenting[myindenting][width=5cm]
 \starttext
 
 \myindenting
 \input knuth
 
 \stoptext

The output looks different when you put the text in the document.


% engine=pdftex

\defineindenting
  [test]
  [text=Test]

\starttext

\test The Earth, as a habitat for animal life, is in old age and
has a fatal illness. Several, in fact. It would be happening
whether humans had ever evolved or not. But our presence is
like the effect of an old|-|age patient who smokes many packs
of cigarettes per day |=| and we humans are the cigarettes.

\subtest The Earth, as a habitat for animal life, is in old age and
has a fatal illness. Several, in fact. It would be happening
whether humans had ever evolved or not. But our presence is
like the effect of an old|-|age patient who smokes many packs
of cigarettes per day |=| and we humans are the cigarettes.

\stoptext


As you can see from the output it’s a very simple description
command with very few options. The dots in the output for your
example os the default value for the text key.

Wolfgang
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